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22421  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: January 19, 2014, 05:27:15 PM
do you use cryptsy.com? for any trades. if you send me your cryptsy key I can say you referred me. i.e. cryptsy points for my trades.

No, I don't use cryptsy.com, nor do I use bitcoins for trades (well, almost)...
22422  Local / Новости / Re: Анатомия биткойнов. Часть 1 on: January 19, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
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(сленговый вариант написания – «биткоинов» — примечание редакции)

Чудны дела твои, господи!

Особо повеселил перечень "самых популярных сюжетов" редакции:
1. Неотроцкизм: Финские дегенераты-ювеналы обучают московских киднеппингу. Шокирующее видео
2. С мая 2014 года всем новорожденным Европы будут вставлять микрочип...

Скандалы, интриги, расследования, лол...
22423  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: January 19, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Haha. They click, I share Wink

I can be your cryptsy referral though, send me your key!

What do you mean by key? My freebitco.in code is 1562, just in case you mean this...
22424  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: January 19, 2014, 04:48:55 PM
Smiley

I like this share feature, I'm sure my referrals are liking it too lol. I think every sunday when I get back from work I will share everything they give me , and maybe mine, until payout. I am drunk now so they are getting extra lol, Wink Hopefully it will make them grind more, including my lazy friends!

If you're so generous, you could share some coins with me too. I wouldn't mind (since it was my idea, lol). My Bitcoin address is below...
22425  Economy / Economics / Re: Winkelvoss Twins’ Bitcoin ETF on: January 19, 2014, 04:43:10 PM
Pretty sure this was covered in an earlier thread, but derivatives will be good for the long term health of Bitcoin. Short sellers, for example, can halt a slide when they buy back in to cover their shorts. overall this will lead to less volatility and more practical use as a currency rather than a purely speculative vehicle.

If derivatives bring about multiplication as they obviously do, this will inevitably cause bitcoin inflation, i.e. money supply growth and money depreciation thereby...
22426  Economy / Economics / Winkelvoss Twins’ Bitcoin ETF on: January 19, 2014, 04:32:55 PM
According to Evan Greebel, Winkelvoss Bitcoin Trust's lawyer, the prospects for the Winkelvoss Bitcoin Trust approval by the Securities and Exchange Commission look good (source). So, if this ends well for the Winkelvoss brothers, should we expect coming the era of dreaded bitcoin derivatives with all ensuing consequences? Will they have money multiplication effect on Bitcoin that we we were discussing recently here?
22427  Local / Новости / Re: Великобритания намерена признать btc «част on: January 19, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
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Считать биткойны в качестве полноценной валюты и «финансовой услуги», что позволит полностью исключить их из-под распространения на них НДС. Вряд ли такое когда-нибудь произойдет, т.к. это придаст биткойну статус национальной валюты.

Это почему же? Доллар у них считается "национальной" валютой или как? Статус валюты не обязательно означает принадлежность к какому либо государству (хотя я, конечно, не силён, как там у них в Великобритании всё устроено с этим). Было же, например, экю, которое имело характеристики настоящей валюты, но не имело при этом национальной принадлежности...
22428  Local / Новости / Re: Хедж-фонд братьев Винклевосс все ближе к з on: January 19, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
Хедж-фонд братьев Винклевосс все ближе к запуску

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Согласно Майклу Дж Кейси, редактору и старшему колонисту в Wall Street Journal, братья Винклевоссы получили положительный сигнал от Комиссии по ценным бумагам и биржа США в отношении их венчурного проекта по организации хедж-фонда Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust. Вот цитата Эвана Грибела, юриста хедж-фонда:

«Комиссия по ценным бумагам и биржам была достаточно отзывчива. В настоящий момент мы проходим стандартные процедуры оформления и регистрации фонда, и пока мы не встретили каких-либо препятствий. Мы полагаем, что в Комиссии понимают суть и значение проекта, которые он может оказать на стабилизации цены биткойна».

http://coinspot.ru/news/xedzh-fond-bratev-vinklevoss-vse-blizhe-k-zapusku/

Ну что же, как я неоднократно и повторял в экономических ветках, посвящённых будущему биткоина (да и здесь тоже), следующим шагом будет появление самых разнообразных биткоин-деривативов, реализующих в реальности денежный мультипликатор по отношению к биткоину (несмотря на неоднократно высказываемые возражения про невозможность подобного - без какой-либо серьёзной аргументации, конечно)...
22429  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.8BTC/month just by posting! - Advertise for PrimeDice.com! *Updated on: January 19, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
is it real?

yes!  Smiley
250 people can confirm  Cheesy
but to start you must have 50 postsactivity, so get at it so you'll have to wait about 2 weeks or a month and post 40 times

No, I got only 50% what I was supposed.
I just went through your last 2 pages of posts and couldn't find one that was longer than a sentence. If I were Stunna, I wouldn't have paid you anything. There are even posts with only on word.

Brevity is the soul of wit, lol. Though I agree one-liners, or rather one-worders, like 'yes', 'thanks', 'exactly' don't contribute much to the discussion and can hardly be considered as constructive however pleasing they may appear to their addressee...
22430  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: January 19, 2014, 03:30:17 PM
wetsuit, I have a question for you. What does Countdown to next payout refer to exactly? It is time left till payments go pending, i.e. I can safely share my commissions before this counter runs out, right?

Yes it is time before payouts go into pending. And yes to your second question as well.

Also, it would be nice to add a feature that would allow to hide inactive referrals. When you have a few dozens of them (let alone a few hundred as some are bragging about), it becomes tedious to look through zeros to find out who is bringing you what...

How about ordering the list by recent commissions in descending order ?

Not bad if all the columns at the REFER page could be sorted like this (you know that little triangle in the header you hit to sort)...
22431  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: January 19, 2014, 03:15:52 PM
wetsuit, I have a question for you. What does Countdown to next payout refer to exactly? It is time left till payments go pending, i.e. I can safely share my commissions before this counter runs out, right?

Yes it is time before payouts go into pending. And yes to your second question as well.

Also, it would be nice to add a feature that would allow to hide inactive referrals. When you have a few dozens of them (let alone a few hundred as some are bragging about), it becomes tedious to look through zeros to find out who is bringing you what...
22432  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Proposed feature for freebitco.in on: January 19, 2014, 09:37:17 AM
As promised, paid about 50% of my referrals commissions today. Since earlier in the week recent commissions were erroneously reset, the exact number for every referral may differ (can be either slightly higher than 25% of total recent earnings or slightly less than that number). In fact, I shared somewhat more than half of my commissions to make up for the loss of data

Anyone willing to partake in this program can register through my referral link (http://freebitco.in/?r=1562)
22433  Economy / Gambling / Re: Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: January 18, 2014, 05:48:58 PM
wetsuit, I have a question for you. What does Countdown to next payout refer to exactly? It is time left till payments go pending, i.e. I can safely share my commissions before this counter runs out, right?
22434  Economy / Economics / Re: Would World War instantly destroy Bitcoin? on: January 18, 2014, 05:28:06 PM
I think the Bitcoin itself may break into  different  forks  if  a World war would happen.
This is  because the internet  would  be broken into isolated networks.

Re-merging a forked chain is certainly not impossible.  If the damage were great enough to justify the cost of repair, it would be repaired.

No, the winner takes it all, lol
22435  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.8BTC/month just by posting! - Advertise for PrimeDice.com! *Updated on: January 18, 2014, 01:05:07 PM
Ok this game is so scam i had 12 and then 14 looses same day in a row ! If You flip the coin you will have more chance to win than playing this shitty game. If i have no luck then I should die a long time ago on sidewalk crushed by the plane falling from the sky... or driving a car on highway and smashed by the train that have derailed and moved to the highway

This thread is probably not the right place to post your doubts, though I appreciate your game strategy and the dogged persistence in it, lol. There is a thread somewhere around this forum specifically dedicated to PrimeDice and all the related stuff...

Oh, well, the link has just been posted
22436  Local / Юристы / Re: Налоги. Актуальные вопросы. ФАК. on: January 18, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
Топик запостен в ноябре 2013, и он просто ужасен. Мало того, что там есть банальные очепятки, которые не только автор, но и модератор, закрепивший тему, не удосужился исправить, но и стилистически наигрубейшие ошибки, дозволеные разве что школолетнему ребенку.

Предложение "Топик не является рекламным." не означает что топик не является рекламным, ибо он что ни на есть является самым рекламным, как только это может быть. (модераторам уже всё проплачено? Иначе как можно объяснить что они прикрепили столь ужасно оформленный бред?)

Не придирайтесь к модераторам (они модерируют как умеют). Здесь они существуют постольку поскольку, я с ними вообще ни разу не сталкивался, за исключением самого главного. Если у вас есть лучший вариант, можете запостить его в виде отдельной темы (когда появится такая возможность). И если она действительно окажется лучше этой, то люди сами сделают свой выбор...
22437  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.8BTC/month just by posting! - Advertise for PrimeDice.com! *Updated on: January 18, 2014, 09:19:27 AM
Amount due received, thank you Stunna!
22438  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is ultimately doomed to fail (not today or tomorrow) on: January 17, 2014, 06:47:06 PM
You don't get my "idea"? Well, maybe I talk nonsense to you, but I do understand the essential difference between a number representing an amount of money and a Bitcoint account, which actually IS the money.

If I don't understand something, it doesn't in the least mean that it is nonsense or I think it is. Be sure of that, but nevertheless address my point from my previous post (about effectively multiplying bitcoins through lending). I'm primarily concerned with that part about double spending..

The multiplication of cars. Let's say I own 1 of exactly 21 million cars that were made. Now, I lend you my car and in return you sign a certificate that you will return it within 1 year. I don't understand why you might think that this results into 21 million plus one cars now.

Actually, I don't think so. But this holds true for fiat too. Every banknote has a number printed on it and banks don't emit electronic money like Central Bank does, right? So let those guys here who insist on "money creation" by banks try to explain this phenomenon regarding fiat first (and then we proceed to cars and bitcoins)...

If you want my opinion on that, well, my point is that your analogy is not quite correct in respect to usage. Indeed, you can't drive a certificate, lol, but if we pretend that Bitcoin is money, it should be used as money and claims on this fit perfectly here...

Grip on life slips through our fingers when 'we' no longer can distinguish between real and unreal, between a representational (sometime false) notation of money accounts and a true amount of money - Bitcoin will clear this vagueness.

I still don't see how Bitcoin multiplication is impossible and how it is connected (if ever) to double-spending. If Bitcoin is money and serves that end before all, then claims on it can also work as money just like claims on fiat do. If you think otherwise, I'm looking forward to your counterarguments...
22439  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is ultimately doomed to fail (not today or tomorrow) on: January 17, 2014, 06:24:26 PM
Also, as cars' utility consists primarily in driving you from point A to point B (or vice versa), loaning it for, say, a teleport would as well effectively increase their number. So it all depends on usage and whether something you get for your loan can be used instead of and on par with what the latter is used for...
22440  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is ultimately doomed to fail (not today or tomorrow) on: January 17, 2014, 06:11:03 PM
You don't get my "idea"? Well, maybe I talk nonsense to you, but I do understand the essential difference between a number representing an amount of money and a Bitcoint account, which actually IS the money.

If I don't understand something, it doesn't in the least mean that it is nonsense or I think it is. Be sure of that, but nevertheless address my point from my previous post (about effectively multiplying bitcoins through lending). I'm primarily concerned with that part about double spending..

The multiplication of cars. Let's say I own 1 of exactly 21 million cars that were made. Now, I lend you my car and in return you sign a certificate that you will return it within 1 year. I don't understand why you might think that this results into 21 million plus one cars now.

Actually, I don't think so. But this holds true for fiat too. Every banknote has a number printed on it and banks don't emit electronic money like Central Bank does, right? So let those guys here who insist on "money creation" by banks try to explain this phenomenon regarding fiat vs. cars first (and then we proceed to cars and bitcoins), i.e. what makes your analogy wrong...

If you want my opinion on that, well, my point is that your analogy is not quite correct in respect to usage. Indeed, you can't drive a certificate, lol, but if we pretend that Bitcoin is money, it should be used as money and claims on this fit perfectly here. It means if cars could be used to buy things, then car certificates would effectively multiply the number of cars in "circulation" (they could even lead to car "depreciation" and so on)...
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