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2261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: October 25, 2019, 06:11:48 PM
@deisik
How is you system performing currently?

Is your income based on your bankroll? The more you have the faster you earn?

It is working just fine (read, I'm still rolling)

By now I have earned 1759 doges in total but since there was not a lot of variance recently, there is nothing to brag about since my last report here. Yes, I keep the losing streak the same (like 34 rolls) and increase the multiplier (currently at 123%) when it becomes possible (I mean, without decreasing the length of the losing streak), so the more I have the faster I earn (provided variance stays the same on average). In fact, I have already described my setup somewhere in the thread (nothing has changed)

BTW why did you choose wolf.bet ? I think that house edge is very important in such system. Cryptogames has 0.8% instead of 1%. It also let you bet once per 10 milliseconds (6000 bets per minute 360 000 per hour - 12 M in 1.5 day)

Do they have doges and what is the minimum bet amount there?
2262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: October 25, 2019, 12:31:18 PM

Of course I know that questioning my own opinion is always healthy. So, if you have some reliable sources telling that the majority of the visitors of Las Vegas-style casinos are very rich people, or "crème de la crème", as you put it, I'd love to see them

What do they say, seeing is believing? Have you been to Vegas?

I've never been to Vegas myself, but I've heard stories from people that were there couple of years ago. It's from them I learned about the common misconception regarding the average crowd in Las Vegas. Going there they were expecting to see what they saw in the movies, the elite, the crème de la crème. But in reality they were constantly encountering people who were looking more like rednecks and such

And you know what that means?

That Las Vegas is extremely overhyped, while its appeal and public perception blown completely out of proportion! Okay, with Las Vegas done and out of the picture, what can you say about the Monaco casinos (of the Monte Carlo fame)? Here we should definitely meet the crème de la crème of the gambling world and financial elites as it literally refers to the French origin of the term (with French being the official language there). In short, do Texan rednecks and their European peers frequent those casinos too? Can't believe that!

Also, I've found an article on Quora with street photos and one pic inside a casino, from which you can get an impression on how the average visitors look in Las Vegas. Here's a quote from the article:

Your impression of Las Vegas must come from TV & the movies only. If you’d ever been to Las Vegas, you’d know that most of the tourists there are not rich

Maybe, all these crowds of tourists are only eyeing the rich dudes there (with their eyes wide shut, of course)
2263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: October 25, 2019, 11:59:54 AM
As everyone can confirm, I've been able to make almost 40% on my betting capital within the last 10 day period. Other than free doges (around 40 a week aka 7-Day Streak) and winnings reinvested, nothing has been added to my balance. In simple words, it is all pure profit generated exclusively through gambling (more specifically, by using martingale wisely and safely). You may like it or you may not like it (which I understand, just in case), but the stats are not lying, no matter the odds

That looks nice. How much is the profit per hour in $?

I don't really know

You could calculate the rate yourself if you want to, but keep in mind that it will be an utterly useless metric as most of my "profit" comes through variance (and that's the whole idea behind the approach described in this topic). In short, you earn through a few long losing streaks which are long enough to bring in decent profits (percentage-wise) but not long enough to bust you. Obviously, there can be whole days when you just drag along earning dust, and then, all of a sudden, here we are!
2264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the Faith of Casino business owners? on: October 24, 2019, 07:30:10 PM
Casino is their business and they earn huge amount of profit from it. Casino owner always try to make his casino famous among all gamblers so they will join and be part of them. Casino owner always think about profit for this they introduce new techniques of gaming and betting, i think for crypto betting people gets more safety alliances.
I don't think you are completely right on this, there are a lot of casino owners that do not completely depend on their casinos as their only source of livelihood. Casino business is a profitable business quite alright but every business person always has an alternative source just in case something bad happens to one which is not what they wish or even pray for

It has more to do with a business or entrepreneurial mentality

So it is not so much about looking for another source of income (though it can be construed in such a way since any successful business brings in dough) as about realizing this or that interesting project. If you are one of them, after you bootstrap one project and make sure it can run without you constantly sticking around (so-called micromanagement), you will soon start looking in a different direction, for something new and refreshing
2265  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 24, 2019, 03:14:33 PM
The topic here shouldn't be why people are hiding nicks, it should be is nicks enough for privacy? I mean you can literally create an account with a totally fake name that you haven't ever used and then deposit money, gamble, if you win withdraw (if you don't then skip this part, then never use that account again even delete it if possible

Admittedly, this is nowhere near enough

That's why you can hide your name and your stats by enabling the "hidden" option under the privacy settings. It is already there, so it goes well beyond just choosing a random, strange looking and totally unpronounceable username, security-wise. But some people consider it an overkill just because some other sites (reportedly) "have all the information open to everyone". Personally, I would undoubtedly stay away from such sites if I considered myself a top-brass in the pecking order of the gambling world
2266  Economy / Economics / Re: Taxless society idea on: October 24, 2019, 01:25:24 PM
But what I really want to point out is that, however rich people "dodge" tax by hiring tax-lawyers, managers and such--in the end they will still pay taxes, but as both of you mention, they will find a way just to reduce the amount they ought to pay, which is, the majority of people would say is unjust/unfair

In today's world this "reduction" can easily turn negative

And you heard it right, and I'm not kidding. First of all, global corporations can easily earn money in one place and pay taxes in a completely different one, different as in another country on a different continent. See where I'm getting at? In this fashion, the reduction is not about paying less as it is more about not paying anything at all in the given jurisdiction. The financial papers will only show losses according to local law

Further, this approach lets you not only evade taxes but actually ask for subsidies from the local government as you can hide your real income in another jurisdiction and show losses in the one where you find it instrumental for your business. This is a real thing and an annoying problem with multinational corporations. As you can see, they can easily turn from cash cows into vampires by sucking blood from national economies
2267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the Faith of Casino business owners? on: October 24, 2019, 12:10:17 PM
Moreover, gambling is not something that needs to be hidden. It is not a threat to anyone’s life for sure

That depends on your particular circumstances

More specifically, I'm not sure that you would like to be open and upfront about your gaming (gambling) activities if you happened to live in Saudi Arabia, North Korea, or Iran (not sure about Iran, though). But even if you are lucky to live in a more "democratic" country, you should still be cautious and careful about telling the world about what you do as it could raise certain questions from, say, tax authorities as to the source of your income (even if gambling itself is not prohibited)
It is very difficult to imagine when some dangers of a gambler lie in wait.  Of course, I am also sure that everything depends on the country in which the person is engaged in his activities and the more democratic the country, the easier the process is.  Of course, even in the United States of America there are very strict laws on the internal regulation of gambling, as well as on taxation, but how will a gambler, for example in Las Vegas, in the city of a casino, be controlled by the tax authorities regarding the source of income?  A person enters a casino, loses or wins money and leaves

Actually, that can be done very easily

You just need to look at it from a different angle. Since Las Vegas casinos are all heavily regulated, they have to conform to the rules so that their money flows can be monitored at all times. In this way, you gamble away a certain amount of cash (you don't even need to lose it, just to stake it), and then they can look through your stakes and compare them with the numbers in your income tax form (declaration). So if there are any discrepancies between the amounts you spend gambling and your declared income, that will instantly set off alarm bells as to the source of all that money you blow on girls, drugs, alcohol and what not in Las Vegas
2268  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Убьет ли Libra Bitcoin? Что важно понимать on: October 24, 2019, 11:39:32 AM
объемы будут большими но мне интересно как будут решать вопрос с налогами?
фейсбук за рекламу почти нигде не платят так как его главная компания зарегистрирована в ирландии и офшорных зонах чтобы меньше налогов платить.
не думаю что и банковская оплата сможет пройти таким способом мимо налоговиков.

К слову и Либра имеет регистрацию не в США, а, если не ошибаюсь, в Швейцарии. Видимо, частично, основатели Либры  все таки решил обезопасить проект от регуляторов Америки.
На первом слушании Маркус так и не смог дать внятного ответа на вопрос почему компания зарегистрирована именно там

это не важно, что намного важнее в данном случае это то что они имеют принадлежность компании которая ведёт бизнес на территории сша.
такая же история с телеграмм что при случае могут наложить запрет

Добавил мерита данному комментатору

Наверное, очень многие слышали про исключительно щепетильное отношение швейцарских банков к личным данным своих клиентов (типа банковская тайна и все такое). И что? Да ничего, как только пара крупнейших швейцарских банков, ведущих деятельность на территории Штатов, получила миллиардные штрафы от FinCen'a (это у них такая служба финансового мониторинга) с перспективой навсегда вылететь с американского рынка за отказ предоставить данные по счетам местной публики в этих банках, вся легендарная неподкупность и принципиальность остальных гномов резко улетучилась
2269  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some not so obvious things that damage a country's economy? on: October 24, 2019, 10:28:15 AM
This is a very, very complicated issue

The government can't just ban alcohol as the outcome of this effort is well-known to us. As a matter of fact, the US government did actually try to do exactly that in 1920's (the so-called Prohibition), and instead of solving one problem, that of alcohol consumption (which it didn't solve anyway), it had created a whole bunch of other problems such as the rise of organized crime (the image of Al Capone should instantly emerge in one's mind as the epitome of that era), political corruption, clandestine production, and bootlegging business, to name but just a few
Agrees that complete ban on alcohol will put the country into chaos but increasing taxes for these products will not decrease the consumption so they want the taxes from it as well

And this, in turn, can lead to a plethora of negative consequences of its own

If the taxes are such that quality alcohol becomes prohibitively expensive for the majority of consumers, people will start using some poisonous shit instead (this is a sad reality in Russia, for example). And then the government will have to spend these taxes on healthcare dealing with the victims of cheap and low-grade drinks, which would make the whole effort of raising more taxes counterproductive, if not outright destructive to the economy and people in general
2270  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 24, 2019, 09:28:59 AM
But do not underestimate those who are expertly or professionally involved in this kind of thing. If you want to keep track of user stats between races (as that seems to be your point), this easily allows to find descriptive patterns which are a unique characteristic of any high-profile gambler. I don't think they are hiding their names for the fun of it, and still less would they want to reveal their gambling habits to a couple of prying eyes
What do you mean by descriptive patterns ?
Do you mean how the gamblers paly with odds or bet amounts? You are right. No successful gambler want their strategy to be revealed.
but I think people want to see only their profits and losses. It won't reveal something important about them.
(Everyone has the right to hide any thing from the profile and I don't say they shouldn't hide their profile.)
Even if you have a certain pattern it doesn't matter because people can't reach to you no matter what. I mean we are talking about literally a fake nickname over a fake nickname here, how could anyone reach to a person with a fake nickname over a fake nickname, you wouldn't be even allowed to pm anyone because it is a fake one

I'm not sure what you mean by a "fake name"

If you mean that the site lists dummy accounts to stir up the competition in the race, I can't help you with that (anyway, this issue has been discussed before). Otherwise, it is certainly possible to trace these users unless they are hidden in the way they are, i.e. you can't get any information about them other than the amount they wagered

If you actually want to say that the site must disclose their stats to prove they are in fact real users, then I'm inclined to think that you are asking a bit too much. Really, if you were one of those big fish betting so much, would you be happy if the casino decided to tell the world everything about your activity just to prove a point here?
2271  Economy / Services / Re: ⭐️ BitKong.com is looking for translators ⭐️ on: October 23, 2019, 08:13:47 PM
I'm a bit of a gambler myself these days, and recently helped to translate into Russian the following gambling sites:

wolf.bet
vipgame.io

Feel free to contact me if you need any assistance. I PM'ed you as well (you don't need to look any further)
2272  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank: If The Entire System Collapses, Gold Will Be Needed To Start Over on: October 23, 2019, 07:56:14 PM
The US dollar is the primary currency because the US is self-sufficient in food and has a powerful military. That's all you really need

I don't know what you mean by "primary currency" here, but you are thinking in the right direction

Countries that are more self-sufficient in major items (like food industry and other such industries) than the rest of the pack don't need gold to back up their currency because it is already backed up by the strength of their economy. You may ask a question as to why the US is hoarding so much gold then? The answer is quite simple though

They can and most certainly will use gold as a weapon of economic destruction against weak countries which in case of a severe crisis will have to rely on gold in their economic affairs (maybe even for propping up their currencies) as it happened with the Soviets in 1970's that had to import goods for gold
2273  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some not so obvious things that damage a country's economy? on: October 23, 2019, 06:04:36 PM
And what is that responsible promoting of alcohol? They want their citizens to die slowly? because they need taxes from them

This is a very, very complicated issue

The government can't just ban alcohol as the outcome of this effort is well-known to us. As a matter of fact, the US government did actually try to do exactly that in 1920's (the so-called Prohibition), and instead of solving one problem, that of alcohol consumption (which it didn't solve anyway), it had created a whole bunch of other problems such as the rise of organized crime (the image of Al Capone should instantly emerge in one's mind as the epitome of that era), political corruption, clandestine production, and bootlegging business, to name but just a few
2274  Economy / Economics / Re: Btc stability and volatility question? on: October 23, 2019, 05:13:17 PM
If you're expecting for massive adoption and to have bitcoin as the national currency, I could say that we're still far from it. Bitcoin could be a mode of payment but merchants still don't directly accept it so fiat is still necessary. Fiat would always be involved in every local transaction despite the existence of bitcoin because it still needs further development and total adoption due to its volatility.
As a national currency, I am sure that Bitcoin will not be used in any state. The national currency is always tightly tied to the state of the state economy. The price of bitcoin cannot be tied to the conditions of economic development of any state. Bitcoin can go in society along with the national money of states, but can never replace it with itself

I mostly agree with you

With that said, though, we must remember that there are countries (like a dozen or so) which don't have their own currency, and are using a foreign currency instead. It is mostly the US dollar throughout the world but the Russian ruble is also used in certain so-called unrecognized states in lieu of a full-fledged national currency. In this way, it is quite possible that a particular country could adopt Bitcoin as its legal tender on equal terms with some other currency, especially in the cases mentioned

As for the volatility of the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, it will always be very high, as long as the cryptocurrency remains decentralized. No other factors will significantly affect this

I agree with that too

But volatility is most certainly to stay not because of a decentralized nature but rather due to the speculative essence of cryptocurrencies. After all, gold is also decentralized but its value is a paragon of stability. If you see its price change, remember that it is not gold's value per se that changes but rather the value of the currency it is priced in. Gold itself is rock-solid (despite being a soft metal on its own)
2275  Economy / Economics / Re: Millennial generation are screwed! on: October 23, 2019, 04:54:21 PM
This lead us to a question how the millennials will solve many of the issues of today? We do not know but whatever solutions they employ will not be perfect and they will be blamed by generation Z making the cycle to continue

That 's actually an interesting question

The interesting part is that we must solve today's issues all by ourselves (well, at least try to) and not pass them on to the coming generations, right? But if we choose to put the burden of resolving them on the shoulders of the next generation (millennials, Z nation, whatever), they can do exactly the same. Really, if our ancestors charged us with their problems through their failure to deal with them appropriately, why should we care solving them after all? But isn't it what millennials can in fact be thinking now?
2276  Local / Работа / Re: Горе работодатели=) on: October 23, 2019, 10:54:27 AM
Так то же самое сейчас происходит и на всяких фриланс площадках. Предлагают 100 рублей за работу, на которую уйдет несколько дней. Но, не это странно. Странно то, что кто-то берет эти задания, и выполняет их. Таким людям хочется сказать, одумайтесь. Вы дампите рынок

Это сложный вопрос

Возможно, тем, кто предлагает такую работу, большего и не надо. Другими словами, какое предложение, такой и спрос ("мы с Тамарой ходим парой"), и с этой точки зрения, здесь нет какого-то дампинга или демпинга. Один раз обожгутся, в следующий раз будут умнее (это в равной мере касается и заказчика и исполнителя)

Могу от себя добавить (говорю конкретно за переводы), что серьезные и долгосрочные проекты готовы платить и платить достаточно хорошо (хотя может быть и не сразу, а после профилактической беседы), но только за соответствующее качество, поэтому они проверяют исполнителя до или после (но лучше, конечно, вместо)
2277  Economy / Economics / Re: BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR 6 YEARS on: October 23, 2019, 10:14:37 AM
Halving equals more scarce.
Halving equals less inflation.... it in no shape or form equals Bitcoin to be more scarce than it already. Scarcity in Bitcoin doesn't always play much of a role because during a bear market there are more sellers than buyers

It is not just about scarcity alone

As it is always about utility too as these two characteristics of an asset, service or good are complementary and work hand in hand. What I mean to say is that utility has the same effect on price as scarcity. If Bitcoin becomes more useful (when, for example, people start to use it more widely as a means of payment) its utility rises which leads to higher prices even if its scarcity doesn't change or even decreases (i.e. Bitcoin becomes more abundant). Conversely, if people become less interested in it, Bitcoin's utility goes down - along with its price

I must admit. I, for one, also always thought that Scarcity has the biggest role in Bitcoin's price. I didn't realize the contribution of utility

You are definitely not alone

As quite a number of people think that scarcity determines the price of an asset. It does but along with utility. In fact, I explained the relationship between utility and price on several occasions before. The truth is, without utility scarcity means nothing (though it works in reverse too). If something is extremely scarce but it has no practical use and application (whatever those might be in terms of the subjective theory of value), its value will be null

And as I said, it works in reverse too. If something has tremendous significance and importance for us (what utility comes down to), it may still have low or no value for being extremely abundant (in terms of price). We cannot live without air but it doesn't cost us anything for the simple reason it is so plentiful that there is enough of it for everyone (as they say, air for everybody, free, and let no one be left behind)

But the main difference between them is goods can be produced many times over but in Bitcoin (regardless of halvings) has a limited supply

Without actual utility a limited supply turns irrelevant and inconsequential. Quite a few shitcoins had a very limited supply, some of them even less than Bitcoin's, and what's become of them?
2278  Economy / Economics / Re: Taxless society idea on: October 23, 2019, 07:41:35 AM
Same reason actually I have for supporting the concept of tax free society because there are majority of the countries where rich people don’t pay due taxes and the whole burden falls on the shoulders of job holders who are already making both ends meet hardly. They still pay taxes which are then not used on them or for them. So it’s better to boycott taxes. 

Not paying taxes is illegal, a crime even. So are you saying that all "rich" people do such a thing? Do you really think they don't pay their taxes because they're still "rich". They are "rich" because they know how to manage their money, and how to earn more money

He probably meant something different

Rich people can hire expert tax lawyers so that they can avoid paying taxes in a quasilegal way by exploiting loopholes their lawyers find. Obviously, common people have neither experience (and time) to do that on their own nor money to hire someone who can do that on their behalf. In other words, rich people have way more options in this regard, and given their mentality (as you correctly point out), they won't have any scruples about using these options and tactics to their advantage whenever possible

That's their mentality, they don't have the same mentality as an ordinary citizen

Let's call it a capitalist mentality
2279  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 22, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
But do not underestimate those who are expertly or professionally involved in this kind of thing. If you want to keep track of user stats between races (as that seems to be your point), this easily allows to find descriptive patterns which are a unique characteristic of any high-profile gambler. I don't think they are hiding their names for the fun of it, and still less would they want to reveal their gambling habits to a couple of prying eyes
What do you mean by descriptive patterns?

Typically, we are not very well aware of our own patterns in some activity

But it doesn't mean they don't exist. Then, a descriptive pattern lets us tell one user (gambler) from another as it basically describes one's manner of doing things, e.g. what and at which time. Okay, if we want to use a unique mnemonic name instead of an all-equalizing moniker like "hidden", it still tells us enough to draw a connection between a person here and a gambler there, provided there is enough time and data. From a casino's perspective, "hidden" as in hidden is definitely a better choice
2280  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 22, 2019, 08:32:01 PM
people hide their names for a reason Smiley
the main reason - they do not want to be tracked or listed or annoyed in any other shape or form
that is why every decent gambling site should have a privacy option for gamblers to hide their identity
I remember the times when the highrollers could not hide their bets and were literally swamped with begging personal messages
both moderators and players had tough times , glad it has changed since
What I meant was, instead of usernames we could have "hidden" players having nicks like "player52354234" that way we can compare results of each week with the current week and yes we would be able to track their records that way but when you want to message or at least reach out their real username will be like "SquallLeonhart" and their hidden name would be "player235234" and that way we can't find them

Most people won't bother

But do not underestimate those who are expertly or professionally involved in this kind of thing. If you want to keep track of user stats between races (as that seems to be your point), this easily allows to find descriptive patterns which are a unique characteristic of any high-profile gambler. I don't think they are hiding their names for the fun of it, and still less would they want to reveal their gambling habits to a couple of prying eyes

To sum it up, wolf.bet does it right because they are vitally interested in attracting this type of a gambler ("big fish"), even if most of us ("small fish") don't particularly care whether someone is going to look through our bets (read, money loves silence, while big money loves grave silence)
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