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2261  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: mining profitable on: April 29, 2015, 04:12:32 PM
And if btc price will become 600$ after how many increase profitable in mining ?
Again, you must take all factors into consideration.  If Bitcoin goes to $600, chances are very good that more people will mine it.  This will increase the network hash rate and thereby increase the difficulty.  In turn, you will earn less BTC for your hashing power.

Just for the sake of argument, let's say that today the price of Bitcoin shoots up to $600, and all else remains equal.  Your S3 will still earn you 0.004648BTC a day.  However, instead of being worth $1.08 (with BTC at $233) that same coin will be worth $2.79.
2262  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: mining profitable on: April 29, 2015, 03:53:25 PM
Profitability also depends on the electricity each miner as to pay. If the price was to rise at 600$ naturally more miners will be profitable and turned on again. Currently S3's 441 GH/s would mine 0.00465 BTC each day according to https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

with a 0.10$ cost a day an S3's consumption would consume $0.816 each day.

I have cheap electro.

And else what depends that mining profitable drop down ?
Change in network difficulty affects expected BTC earnings.  For example, right now the difficulty is 47610564513, which leads you to the expected earnings of 0.004648BTC a day for an S3.  If difficulty goes up, your expected earnings go down.  Conversely, if difficulty goes down, your expected earnings go up.

These are the main considerations that will help you gauge whether or not mining gear is profitable.
2263  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2s3's or 1 c1 on: April 29, 2015, 02:58:40 PM
Remember the fun days of extreme overclocking?  People would drop their Pentiums into liquid nitrogen to try and get the most possible speed out of the chips.

I agree the cooling performance of the liquid would certainly degrade the more boards it had to deal with, and perhaps the optimal limit is indeed what the C1 offers.  I know there were some folks doing total immersion tests with the Spondoolies boards to get some crazy density.  It would be interesting to see how far these things can be pushed.
2264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin confirmations times are taking over 4 EFFING HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: April 29, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
maybe i'm missing something but why a transaction should depend of the previous transaction fee?
The problem isn't the dependence upon the fee of the previous transaction, but rather that the OP used unconfirmed inputs in his transaction.  Yes, those inputs were unconfirmed because the fee was 0, but the OP further complicated the matter by using those inputs in his own transaction.

As DannyHamilton mentioned, unless a pool is using a look-ahead method to know that by confirming the unconfirmed inputs they will be receiving fees from the child transaction, OP is forced to wait for those inputs to confirm.  Since it appears the transactions finally confirmed, everything is good to go.
2265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can I retrieve My Bitcoin? on: April 29, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
Hey everyone,

I'm sorry for the possibly elementary question... but scenario:

My BlackBerry Z10 had some bitcoin on it using the app "Bitcoin Wallet".  I transferred the BTC from another phone, to the current Z10... but unfortunately the Z10 died.  It wont boot.. I cant access the data..etc..  Is there a way retrieve my money through the block chain... or any other way?


On Another topic... I stopped mining BTC about two years ago and was part of the whole Flower Tech Scam... I've been out of the loop for quite some time...But i see the difficulty rates decreasing... Could mining for small individuals become feasible again?

Thank you for any help...!
Unless you've got a way to access the private key of the wallet on your Z10, you're SOL.  You'll still be able to see your coins on the blockchain by looking at the address (assuming you know the public address)... but without the private key, or getting your Z10 back up and running, those coins are effectively lost.

Mining for the small individual is getting harder and harder, even though the difficulty changes have been leveling out as of late.  Fewer and fewer hardware manufacturers produce home mining gear, concentrating instead on the larger scale industrial miners.
2266  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: April 29, 2015, 02:30:55 PM

I've been running P2Pool on Linux for about a year and decided to look for updates... I'm hoping that the 'bug' causing all my shares to be lost when I restart the pool has been fixed.

I'm confused; there are a multitude of 'p2pool' projects on GitHub

What is considered to be the latest 'official' repository for the p2pool code

Or.. can anyone spell out what the different 'good' repositories are, and what the differences between them are ?


The official p2pool repo is forrest's: https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/

Rav3n's got his own that has support for a boatload of alt coins: https://github.com/Rav3nPL/p2pool-rav

When you restart p2pool, the UI resets your local share count to 0.  You don't actually lose shares on the chain, it's just that the UI only tracks shares found on your node since the last restart.
2267  Other / Archival / Re: I need some C# help on: April 28, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
@jonnybravo0311, you helped me a lot. Thanks

We have 2 hours of informatics weekly. Professor tells us to write some material from the books in our notebooks and when we are done, we are free.

OK, I have done it with numbers.
http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=https://i.imgur.com/xtFIDIX.png

Can you give me some hint how to do it with text?
 
http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=https://i.imgur.com/zuLSoPJ.png
The text one will be very similar.  Instead of printing out your counter variable, you just print the text over and over again.

Code:
int i = 0;
do {
  Console.WriteLine("jonnybravo0311");
  i++;
}
while (i < 10);

You'll have to explain the third task a bit more clearly.  Are you supposed to prompt the user to actually tell you whether to show odds or evens?  Or are you just supposed to count to 100 by odds first, and evens second?

Think about that third task and try to put it into terms like I did for your first task.  How do you count only the odds, or only the evens in your head?  How would you do it on paper?
2268  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 40 blocks solved! on: April 28, 2015, 09:14:48 PM
Assuming he's been spending 1BTC a day to rent gear, his first block was on 4/17.  11 days, 5 blocks, near 125BTC.  For a cost of 11BTC.  Now that's a win!
2269  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 40 blocks solved! on: April 28, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
Holy freaking mother loving gods on a stick!!!  Another block goes to 727miner.  Whoever it was earlier (think it was mikestang) who said the Pattern weaves around him was surely not mistaken.  Unbelievable this guy has found 5 blocks with around 200TH/s.

Congrats yet again!
2270  Other / Archival / Re: I need some C# help on: April 28, 2015, 07:17:00 PM
Hi guys,

I started learning programming in school and I got some tasks for my homework.
I solved the easier tasks, but I can't solve "harder" ones.
I hope you will give me some instructions.

Thanks Smiley

1. task
Program which writes my name 10 times.

2. task
Program which writes numbers 1-10

3. task
Program which writes numbers 0-100 and only shows even or odd numbers.
Each of these exercises requires you to understand looping constructs.  The first one asks you to repeat a task 10 times.  The second asks you to count to 10 and the third asks you to ... well, I think you wrote the third one down wrong because showing only even or odd numbers will show them all Smiley - unless you're supposed to prompt the user to enter whether or not he wishes to see evens or odds?  That seems a bit more complicated than the other two which are simply asking you to understand loops.

Loops in programming are very similar to how you'd think of repetitive tasks in your life.  For example, let's look at the first task.  How would you do it on paper (without using computer code)?

1) Look to see how many times your name has been written
2) If your name has been written fewer than 10 times, write your name
3) Repeat

You could also express this as a sentence:

I will repeatedly write my name until I have written it 10 times.

By doing this, you have given yourself a task that must be repeated until a condition is met.  Let's think of that sentence in another way:

While I have written my name fewer than 10 times, write my name.

So... you need a way to count how many times you've written your name, a way to write your name, a way to increment your counter, and a way to repeat those tasks.

We would start our counter at 0 because you haven't written your name yet.  Now, you start your repeating loop.  Is the counter less than 10?  If yes, write your name and increment the counter.  Do it again.  Now the counter is 1.  Is that less than 10?  Yup.  Write your name and increment the counter.

Now let's think of it in terms of code:

Initialize counter to 0.
While counter is less than 10:
 * Write my name
 * increment counter

I hope this helps, and allows you to follow along with your other 2 tasks.
2271  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Nonce and extranonce algorithm on: April 28, 2015, 06:09:41 PM
Thank you Danny, appreciate the help.

Can I re-phrase the last part as what I was asking was simpler than what I think I have actually written down.

All I wanted to know is usually does hashing take longer or finding the correct nonce when it is being computed (on average from your experience)?

Hashing is extremely fast.

The typical AntMiner S4 ASIC completes 2,000,000 hashes each second.

Finding a nonce that results in a low enough hash requires the hash to be calculated MANY times, and takes on average approximately 10 minutes.  On average, across the entire world, approximately 249,187,460,000,000,000,000 (that's 2.49X1020) hashes are calculated before someone somewhere happens across a block and nonce combination that hashes to a value less than the current target.
I know you typically don't pay attention to anyone with a signature campaign; however, in the interest of providing clarity to the part of your statement I bolded, you are missing a few zeros.  An S4 is a 2 TH/s machine, meaning it will complete 2,000,000,000,000 hashes per second.

Using bitcoinwisdom.com reported network hash rate of 347.453128 PH/s, (as of the writing of this post) and an average expected block time of 600 seconds, one would expect a total of 2.084718768x1020 hashes worldwide to find a block.
2272  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 39 blocks solved! on: April 28, 2015, 04:56:39 PM
what does it mean if you get a share accepted message on your miners?

ive chucked 20 block erupters and a U2 at the pool to see if the odds are better than lotto Wink

Sorry, but really? You're a hero member and don't know what that means?

It basically means your miners found a share above the target set by the pool. It's a way for the pool to keep record of shares submitted by miners. The target set varies by the amount of hashrate you point at the pool so the more hash the higher the target is set. This is basically done to avoid the pool having to handle a shitload of diff1 shares. Note that for this solo pool it doesn't matter! The only thing that matters here is finding a share above the network difficulty. Your miners would report that as 'found block'.

Yup and i was hoping that i meant something different with this pool Wink bit of a preemptive post as after about 10min of nothing showing up - i got a 1 share accepted message. its now started with a whole load of share accepted messages as usual Cheesy
I'm pretty sure the pool starts you off with a difficulty of 1042.  Once you hit that difficulty, it adjusts according to your perceived hash rate, so you then start to see accepted shares as you typically would.  For example:

2273  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 39 blocks solved! on: April 28, 2015, 04:40:39 PM
what does it mean if you get a share accepted message on your miners?
It means that the pool has accepted a share.  Unless that share is over the network difficulty, it's just informational.
2274  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Solo mining lottery on: April 28, 2015, 01:01:06 PM
I've got 5 Antminer U2 that are pointed to ck.'s solo pool.  Every week, assuming they're not rented out, I point 6 of my S3s there for a day as well.  You never know if they'll hit Smiley.

@alh, 727miner has hit 4 blocks in less than 2 weeks on ck.'s solo pool.  Yes, he rents.
2275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Make yourself an e-mail alert if your VPS bitcoin node is down on: April 27, 2015, 10:31:02 PM
That code actually attempts a connection to the bitcoin daemon, which if you're just checking to see if the process is running might be a bit of overkill.  Why not just do something simple like:
Code:
#!/bin/bash

if [ $(ps -ef | grep -cim1 [b]itcoind) -eq 0 ]; then
  echo "Bitcoind is not running" | mail -s "Alert Message" address@mail.com
fi


Thanks for the input. If you only check to see if the process is running, you only know that the bitcoin core process is running, you do not know whether it accepts connections or not. So the script simply checks whether it is possible to connect to the running daemon with the bitcoin protocol. There's endless variants to such scripts, and you define your use case and run with that. Cheers.
Agreed.  You can come up with countless use cases and build monitoring agents accordingly.  I guess my main concern with your script is precisely because it is attempting a connection.  Some people tune their nodes to set max connections.  If your node has already reached the max connections, your script will falsely report it as being down simply because it cannot connect.

I suppose you could do a combination of things like:
1) Check to see if the process is actually running (my suggested script)
2) If 1 is true, check to see if it will accept incoming connections (your script)
3) If 1 is true, but 2 is false, see if you can retrieve data from the daemon using bitcoin-cli
...

I'm sure we could come up with a bunch of other tests to monitor things Smiley
2276  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: antpool profit on: April 27, 2015, 10:24:28 PM
10 hrs and not even $1.00 value lol.

That shows you that mining requires lots of hash to get even a decent sizable btc produced for the workloads given.

You should just sell the miner on ebay, and buy bitcoin while prices are down. Dont do the whole mining nonsense.
LOL... of course it does.  Where've you been for the past couple years? Tongue

Last year on this date, that S3 (440GH/s) would have expected to make 0.03171BTC daily.  Now it expects to make 0.004648BTC a day.
2277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Make yourself an e-mail alert if your VPS bitcoin node is down on: April 27, 2015, 10:06:20 PM
That code actually attempts a connection to the bitcoin daemon, which if you're just checking to see if the process is running might be a bit of overkill.  Why not just do something simple like:
Code:
#!/bin/bash

if [ $(ps -ef | grep -cim1 [b]itcoind) -eq 0 ]; then
  echo "Bitcoind is not running" | mail -s "Alert Message" address@mail.com
fi
2278  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: antpool profit on: April 27, 2015, 09:41:26 PM
OP has been asking the same question in multiple threads.  I answered him in quite a few of them.  Apparently he's from Georgia and his English is about as good as my Georgian Smiley.  It's definitely a lost in translation thing.

OP, I hope you can get somebody to translate these answers for you.
2279  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cloud Services - What Are They? on: April 27, 2015, 09:26:12 PM
I been in the Bitcoin business for a few months, but never go into mining. I recently saw something about Bitcoin Cloud Services. Can someone explain what these are all about? Are you basically paying for someone to mine for you? I haven't been able to really understand this idea.
In a nutshell, yes.  Legitimate services have a bunch of hardware that is mining.  They charge you some BTC for some portion of their hash rate.  You earn coins based on the hash rate you purchased.  There are a variety of contract types.  Some will charge you X up front for Y time.  Others charge you X up front and Y in maintenance fees for unlimited time.

Be extremely careful.  There are far too many Ponzi schemes out there posing as cloud mining services.
2280  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: April 27, 2015, 09:01:35 PM
I apologize for all the questions i just dont have the time to comb through this thread would be nice to organize the info in this thread so it's easier to access what you need.

You might find this useful:

A guide for mining efficiently on P2Pool, includes FUD repellent and FAQ

If it is any help to you, the script I use on my linux machine reads:

Code:
screen -d -m -S btcp2pool ~/code/p2pool/run_p2pool.py --irc-announce --outgoing-conns 10 --address yourbitcoinaddressforfeestogoto --fee 0 --give-author .5 --net bitcoin bitcoinuser bitcoinpassword

Obviously, replace the address with your own if you have a fee. Since I have --fee 0 at the moment I might not even need --address. The "bitcoinuser" and "bitcoinpassword" are the rpcuser and rpcpassword set in your bitcoin.conf file.
I was looking at that thread but i thought it was out dated.
Everything there still applies.  @roy7, you put the address still in case some miners connect to your node without a proper BTC address.  Even if you're not collecting fees, the node will consider any improperly formatted BTC address mining as a donation.
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