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2261  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2022, 10:27:39 AM
waiting for Chart Buddy to signal the end of the bear market like

2262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will you buy a token if its price never went up and you could never sell it? on: September 19, 2022, 07:40:02 AM


The "community" you speak of probably knows about as much as soulbound tokens as you do. Don't worry I won't interrupt your exercise in confirmation bias any further.
2263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 💩💩 SHITCOIN SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN 💩💩 - signature campaign only! on: September 19, 2022, 06:08:14 AM
#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Radjie
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=942755
Member Rank: Sr. Member
Dogewallet Address: DMn1fSMLBmEUb2ybExhh51ptbhyo5FFHZV

OK you've been accepted. Please bear in mind this is the last week for this campaign, and try to make at least 10 posts. Thanks!
2264  Other / Meta / Re: Reee: How would bitcointalk community react to bitcointalk nfts on: September 19, 2022, 04:00:21 AM
That sounds like privacy disaster. Analytic company could download whole blockchain (which used by the NFT) and analyze the data to find out how much asset you have or your personal taste, then sold it to government or advertising company. It's totally different case if they zero-knowledge proof cryptography, but i never see any NFT which use such cryptography.

This post is too broad to answer meaningfully... I don't know what aspect of my previous post you are referring to. At the very least, the assumptions you are making about how these things are actually being developed and implemented are too broad.

This is a tactic adopted by nocoiners to discredit bitcoin: put forth "what if the sky falls"-type hypotheticals based on an incomplete understanding of the subject at hand.

Certainly every blockchain has potential privacy issues; to think the people who are actually basing their careers around building new products on it haven't considered this aspect is not giving them enough credit.
2265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will you buy a token if its price never went up and you could never sell it? on: September 19, 2022, 03:39:24 AM
You're describing Soulbound Tokens. Sounds like they're about to be the next big thing, and people will buy them.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/soulbound-tokens-play-a-big-part-in-this-new-metaverse-which-plans-to-give-users-citizenship

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SBTs are a new approach to cryptoassets that has been championed by Vitalik Buterin, the co-founder of Ethereum. He was inspired by a feature found in World of Warcraft — and those with long memories will remember that this game was a crucial reason why he wanted to establish this blockchain in the first place.

Soulbound items cannot be transferred or sold to others — and Buterin's argument right now is this: This functionality currently can't be achieved through the ERC-721 standard. In a blog post published in January, he wrote: "If someone shows you that they have an NFT that is obtainable by doing X, you can't tell whether they did X themselves or whether they just paid someone else to do X."
2266  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Forum NFTs - immortalize your profile on the BTC blockchain on: September 19, 2022, 03:20:58 AM
Just to clarify things, is this Freewallet service related to another (also called Freewallet) mentioned in some prominent scam accusation somewhere in the first 3 pages? (This one here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410403.0)

No, it has nothing to do with that wallet, which is a multicoin wallet.

FreeWallet the Counterparty/BTC wallet is freewallet.io

Freewallet the scam wallet is freewallet.org

The former is a highly secure non-custodial wallet that is currently trusted with hundreds of millions in BTC and Counterparty assets.

Also, its worth noting that I've been using the same Counterwallet for over 8 years (logged in to the web wallet and FreeWallet countless times with the same seed phrase) and have never been hacked or otherwise suffered a loss of funds.
2267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 💩💩 SHITCOIN SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN 💩💩 - signature campaign only! on: September 18, 2022, 07:04:18 AM
Week III has been paid.

One more week to go of this shit.

This week's bonuses go to:

- JoyMarsha, who received 600 PIZZAS (a high-supply 2014 token)

- john1010, who received 1 HAPPYDOGE (a best-selling Dogermint token, also minted in 2014)

- philipma1957, who also received 1 HAPPYDOGE.

May the power of the HAPPYDOGE bring luck to you all.

2268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2022, 05:04:34 AM
I think if senior members give merit to a new member's post then he will try to post better.

Hard disagree.

Not giving merit to the humans emulating merit-seeking AI encourages them to either go away or retrain their neural networks to come up with better posts. Those are both positives.

Giving them merits for posts that are too mechanical, sterile or otherwise useless simply reinforces the pre-existing network. This is a negative.
2269  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Forum NFTs - immortalize your profile on the BTC blockchain on: September 17, 2022, 01:50:45 PM
...

Thanks for the reply.
Can this function be automated via counterparty or must it always be managed manually (as I seem to guess)?
could you theoretically create this option for my NFT too via a script or something similar!?

You mean to send periodic dividends in an automated fashion, or through a third-party website? It can, I believe, using the Counterparty API. I've not messed around with it but the other day somebody did perform the first fully-automated Counterparty transaction... forgot who it was but I saw it on Twitter. If you have more questions about this please feel free to send me a PM.



NotATether has become the third Bitcoin Forum NFT! Another historic day for NFTs.

We have two more slots available for the $25 rate... which is extended to all pre-2016 accounts.

I've reduced the rate for all others to follow to $40.



Now that I took a closer look at them, the CounterWallet servers seem to be unstable for logging into and doing other stuff on Sad . I have my account registered and seed and all that though.

Oh, yeah the web wallet can be a bit wonky. Its very secure but not ideal. I highly recommend downloading the Freewallet. Its much more fun, and stable. For one, you can actually see the token images in the wallet. They just appear as names in the web wallet.
2270  Other / Meta / Re: Reee: How would bitcointalk community react to bitcointalk nfts on: September 17, 2022, 09:02:26 AM
Something sets apart BTC's NFT market from Ethereum's: It's not full of spam and eggs (yet).

So while this place is calm like 2000s-era Twitter, I ordered some NFTs from you.  Smiley

I'd hate to see that community devolve into something like OpenSea's gallery which is full of 99% pickpocketers (which are almost completely unmoderated BTW) and %1 actual collectors. It draws some strange parallels with social media.

Thanks.

It also draws parallels with early Bitcoin scams (scam exchanges, investment schemes, casinos, dice games, etc.) and the altcoin market where 99% is simply speculative investments... Stories of scams and ludicrous returns tend to dominate any sort of news coverage and resulting conversation because they stick in the craw of the human psyche.

However, that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. A lot of innovation is quietly taking place in this space on daily basis, led by projects trying to distinguish themselves from the noise by providing something unique that hasn't been done before, whether it is in terms of aesthetics, community or utility.

No need to lie about it: a lot of NFTs worth $$ now are gonna go to zero. They won't be able to retain the social momentum required to keep new buyers interested as the market expands and attention gets diverted to an ever-expanding array of new projects.

However, that's not what my Forum NFTs are trying to do... They are meant to be uniquely-crafted, personalizing mementos that you can use to either identify your forum profile on the blockchain or trade with others and collect.



A friend of mine made good money from NFT, still he is making. According to him they list on secondary market, they buy it then again they buy it. It's actually moving it from one address to another address. This way they create a demand for the specific NFT before someone else buy it from them.

Yeah that's called "wash trading"  Cheesy its a common practice... an underhanded one but pretty easy to identify if you can read a block explorer. Nearly every crypto ever to be listed has done this with exchange bots for years.
2271  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Forum NFTs - immortalize your profile on the BTC blockchain on: September 17, 2022, 07:16:40 AM
I just saw this thread and I think it's pretty cool idea that I didn't know existed before.

I'm just wondering if I have to pay more for each additional token I want minted.

Awesome, thanks. Nope, its same price regardless of the quantity. I'll send you a PM in a minute.
2272  Other / Meta / Re: Reee: How would bitcointalk community react to bitcointalk nfts on: September 17, 2022, 06:40:42 AM
Again, this is totally ignorant nonsense, written purely for the sake of upping your weekly shitpost count. I'd say you were trolling if you weren't getting paid to do it -- its quite obvious that's your motivation behind writing anything on this forum.

Are you familiar with the idea of a collectible? I don't care about your personal take on their innate value -- that is absolutely irrelevant to this discussion. Just a simple acknowledgement that collectibles and collectors exist would be enough, but you really needn't bother. You are utterly misguided and wrong in more ways than your ego could possibly let you realize, ergo there's no reason to waste any more time with you.
2273  Other / Meta / Re: Reee: How would bitcointalk community react to bitcointalk nfts on: September 17, 2022, 04:31:32 AM
This is the first interesting thing I've read about NFTs in a very long time. Can you tell more about the "decentralized database" the (this specific) image from your NFT is stored in?

Arweave is IMO the best decentralized file storage solution currently available. There is a long history of failed attempts, going all the way back to Maidsafe which technically started before Bitcoin and still isn't finished. Also included are Storj, under construction since 2014, and Filecoin, which relies on IPFS.

The idea behind Arweave originally was to be a permanent backup solution for website archives, kind of like the Wayback Machine, but decentralized, in that anyone can be part of the network by contributing storage space. They are then rewarded with AR token, which is required by uploaders to upload website data, or any file. I am using it specifically to host JSON files containing token metadata.

I just think there's been opinions which have been sort of standardised, if that makes any sense. It's become socially acceptable in a sense to absolutely dog on any sort of altcoin, including NFT's whenever possible. I've gotten that impression for a while, and while I don't necessarily blame people for having that opinion, I'm pretty sure it's become just a saying, without the user actually finding it out for themselves.

This place has institutionalized the behavioral conditioning of shitposting leading to rewards. Nobody needs to bother learning anything new or challenge their preconceptions with incoming information when they can just make a post off the top of their head and get paid, like this one:


Dude didn't take one second to attempt to understand how my project works or what I'm attempting to accomplish, as such his post is not worth responding to.

2274  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Forum NFTs - immortalize your profile on the BTC blockchain on: September 17, 2022, 04:05:29 AM
excuse me in advance if the question is too stupid Smiley or just silly one... but could such an asset be created to send dividends to token holders?

for example, we produce 100 nft linked to UID here on bitcointalk .
If a btc address linked to these NFT receive a payment a payment will be sent (automatically) to NFT owners.
Based on the number of tokens you own, dividends would be sent in percentage (example if you own 50 tokens you receive 50% of amount that an address receive)

it could be something possible in automatic mode?

Yes, absolutely. There's a dividend feature in Counterparty that does exactly that, which allows you to send BTC or any Counterparty token to all holders of a token, based on the quantity they hold. For example, I can make a dividend payment of 0.0001 BTC to all holders of the WALLOBSERVER token, it would look like this:



However, you must be the token issuer in order to make dividend payments. So for the forum token that would mean I'd have to transfer the ownership property to your address, instead of the burn address... I guess I'd be willing to do that for you if you're interested.
2275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: September 16, 2022, 02:36:51 PM
ouch  Cheesy

2276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: September 16, 2022, 02:34:18 PM
yes I also lost there about 2k Dogecoin before when the price of Dogecoin was still looking cheap I still say it's normal to lose a little money but after seeing the price of Dogecoin hit $1 last time it really makes me regret losing my dogecoin there, but I also don't store completely on new exchanges or small exchanges usually i keep 80% in wallet and 20% traded on binance exchange which is certainly a trusted and big exchange

2277  Other / Meta / Re: Merit what, why on: September 16, 2022, 02:05:43 PM
I may be wrong, but time will tell, but for now, I will show everyone the same newcomer from the Pakistani local section who received a ban three times. Furthermore, I hope you understand everything correctly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg60935937#msg60935937

...I am brand new here on the bitcointalk forum.
...

(narrator): He wasn't.



It's also a tell somebody's an alt if they write any of their first 5 posts in Meta. This is where you come after you have a basic grasp of what's going on.
2278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 16, 2022, 01:44:41 PM
Guys...

I'm conflicted.

What are you supposed to do when a crime has been committed and you have reason to believe you know who did it?

I just don't know what to do!

Looks like Bob finally had enough of *checks recent Bob posts* neighbor farmers.
2279  Other / Meta / Re: Reee: How would bitcointalk community react to bitcointalk nfts on: September 16, 2022, 09:16:47 AM
Are there any NFTs that don't have "the metadata" on various companies' servers? I am not aware of more.

Yes, hundreds of thousands by this point... Take this one for example, its what I am doing to build my Bitcoin Forum NFTs. The data which is presented in the Information tab is totally immutable: it cannot be changed by me, nor can it be changed by anyone b/c the file that contains it is stored in a decentralized database. More commonly used than this is IPFS, and an entire blockchain (WAX) already revolves around using it to store data for its NFTs.

You're making sweeping generalizations to paint all NFTs with the same brush to further convince yourself that your pre-conceived viewpoint is the correct one. It's all based on limited knowledge an extremely nuanced subject.

This is the part that made me stop believing in NFTs as viable tech.

You're basically saying a lack of understanding is what is preventing you from understanding NFTs. I've actually heard this line of reasoning from other forum members over the last couple months, though its still quite bizarre.

Of course, if you have good example/explanation to prove me I'm wrong, I will be happy to see it's not everything lost.

Sure, one of the clearest-cut examples is the earliest, which is Namecoin domain names. Namecoin names are, in essence, non-fungible tokens that provide a censorship-resistant method for website access. Because the Tor network and I2P achieve the same effect in a more robust manner, they never really caught on, but they could still serve a role in the future some day.

Other good, non-image uses involve NFTs that grants their holders rights, permissions, or special access. For example, there have been bots made for ETH, BTC and even DOGE NFTs that allow token-gated access to Discord channels, meaning you must own the token in your wallet in order to join the channel. Property rights have been conveyed via NFT, rights to music & video IP, and all sorts of media. Its quite possible that NFTs will be used to convey ownership of smart property, e.g. an apartment or car door that unlocks after proof of corresponding token ownership has been established. The most promising upcoming use case for NFTs in the future are related to identity.

Here you've stated an opinion backed with zero reasoning behind it, not much I can do with it.

You didn't manage to convince me that my reasoning is incorrect.

You didn't provide any reasoning with which to do so... you just made a statement, "I think this is a big step in the wrong direction," but you didn't say why.
2280  Other / Meta / Re: Reee: How would bitcointalk community react to bitcointalk nfts on: September 16, 2022, 08:41:35 AM
NFT may be a good idea, but imho the implementation is bad, hence comparing it with bitcoin is inappropriate.

What exactly do you mean by "implementation"? The blockchain? That is what NFTs are implemented on. Some are even implemented on the Bitcoin blockchain (some of my favorite ones, as a matter of fact).

Many don't see in the current use of NFT more than childish images. Many have came with - imho good - points that currently NFTs are pretty much centralized (Open Sea) and the blockchain information points to an old school server / database with all the problems of that (mutable, prone to hacks).

OpenSea is a business, but its not where the NFTs are stored, so in essence the NFTs themselves are only as centralized as their blockchain. Sure, the metadata of some NFTs is mutable & prone to hacks but its a far cry from all NFTs... for some NFTs the metadata isn't important at all and its only the token itself that matters, which cannot be hacked, so much as a blockchain can be hacked. You're making sweeping generalizations to paint all NFTs with the same brush to further convince yourself that your pre-conceived viewpoint is the correct one. It's based on limited knowledge of an extremely nuanced subject.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe other bitcoiners are wrong too, but asking "If you don't believe in any of this, then I have to ask, why do you believe in Bitcoin?" is imho a big step in the wrong direction.

Here you've stated an opinion backed by zero reasoning, not much I can do with it.
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