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2261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: February 18, 2017, 03:11:05 PM
i think the worst mistake that i have made is to follow those predictions. Many threads have shown that they can profit from their own prediction. So i follow 2 of them and even subscribe to their daily premium predictions. I end up losing 0.5btc and bet even more to try to cover back cause they say it is just a moment of unlucky. I lost up to 2btc in total.

Relying on someone's prediction is just simply silly. This is just a matter of luck and anything can happen therefore trying to trick your own luck by following someone's tips is completely foolish. Everyone could make their own bet, simply bet on a bet that has quite likely opportunity to happen and if you need analysis simply use google for that
I agree, there is no certain luck in gambling. If it were so, there would be no gambling site would profit. Gambling is designed to make people have less probability of winning that rely on the luck of the player. In terms of analysis in gambling, this is sometimes effective but not oftenly. The correct perspective in gambling is that, it was designed for people build their own strategies for winning. People who tend to rely on what they think/predict are those people who end up with lose. Therefore, it's better to build an strategy, technique and right analysis.
- Right from when you gamble, the advantage does not belong to you and there is nothing called luck because the gambling sites will cheat, we can not win. No predictions and no strategic suitable with gambling, you will win if it wants you to win and vice versa. Skills, analysis, strategy ... all is useless, in sports gambling, your prediction still be able wrong, why? Simply because there is cheating and we did not realize. Gambling is never fair
2262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: February 18, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

That is totally so wrong. If you choose to gamble, you will also end up with a websites that is just a scam. So to gamble or invest, you need to find out what are the established website first. In fact, investing has more chance to success as compare to gambling. Gambling will always make you lose while invest can have amazing profit.
Not all the time you can be profitable in investment, we have our own expertise and although it cannot be denied that there's more success in investment than in gambling but there are also people who making gambling as their source of income. We should now where are we going to side, if we are good in gambling then there is no reason to invest at all as you can do easy job in gambling where you can bag easy money as well.

But for typical gambler, winning in the long run is just a fantasy and they tend to focus on a less risky way of making money which is investing.
- Investing and gambling are same, both have risks, however many people prefer to invest because it just need a reasonable strategy, using the experience, skills, analysis, investing become very safe. In gambling, to make a profit from it is so difficult, and I do not see too many people succeed in gambling, the majority of them went bankrupt and in debt so much
- I think we are investing or gambling are not important. The most important is that we know the control and money management
2263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make governments accept bitcoin? on: February 17, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
- I do not think the government will accept Bitcoin, they will not accept a currency which they can not control. Above all, if they accept Bitcoin, money laundering vices will happen. Important is if the government accepts Bitcoin, they will collect taxes and with us this is not good
- Bitcoin will influence greatly to the banks, this is a very difficult problem to solve. Bitcoin need more time and I believe in the near future, Bitcoin will be accepted
2264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: February 17, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
- Bitcoin's biggest disadvantages is the price of Bitcoin never stable and in many countries the government does not accept it. In fact, nobody knows when it will be accepted, many people do not know about Bitcoin, do not know why it was born and existed until now
2265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: February 17, 2017, 03:26:14 PM
China has the highest profit based on what they are mining. I think that will be a good evidence that they can control the bitcoin, though not only bitcoin but its price also.
because it can be said of many bitcoin users of china is as a miner, so do not be surprised if many users of china benefit is of mine, of course it will give little effect for bitcoin
- Miner of China was largest on the world and technology of digital currency very developed, China control a large amount of Bitcoin, so controlling the price of Bitcoin with them is too simple. They just need a little impact and influence, the price of Bitcoin will change, we can not deny the influence of the China with Bitcoin is very large, and can be considered as China controls Bitcoin
2266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 17, 2017, 09:00:11 AM
I think this is related to the will that the human being has to always take revenge on something, thinking that this is a way to recover the losses. In many situations this works, but in gambling people usually end up losing more money.

Yup, most gambler hopes for the best after losses. They even invest bigger the next time they try as they have the mindset that the next bets will be much better than before. They also have a mindset that after betting continuous and continuous loss, they are thinking that they've already find the way to win and they already knew where they should be betting on.  Cheesy

i hope that the most gambler will realize that they can not recover their losses and the more they trying, the more losses they will get and i think only stop that we can do to avoid another losses but unfortunately we always still playing gambling in another days so we can get another loss again. i think its because gambling is always a fun thing that we can played while we don't have another work or activity and we fill the spare time with gambling for once a week and we do not need to playing gambling everyday.
- Although gamblers realize the loss can not be recovered, gamblers still continued to play, because they have been addicted, and gambling became their habit. They always had time for gambling, everything is meaningless with them. Gambling is the only thing that meaningful to them
2267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: February 16, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
Even if you have the best strategy that you have its not your assurance to never be lose in the gambling game. If you won twice that time you play with your best strategy, you must not expect for another chance so that you may not lose in another rounds.

These probably fair games are designed such that each time they will give you different results and no way we can expect every time same result. So surely if one gamble for a longer time then will lose all money to the gambling house. Because no strategies work in gambling but one can just gamble with a small amount and enjoy these game, and if they are lucky then they will earn some money or just have fun.
- Yes, in gambling, the strategy will not help you, because have cheating in gambling, you never realize it. You will never win, right from when starting, gambling was unfair, you're always the passive and the casino keeps the advantage, you can not make money from it. Strategy, analysis is useless, you can not win if you're a gambler. You can only gambling as a fun, victory is never belong gamblers
2268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 16, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
First, I want you to know is can not get rich from gambling. Gambling is entertainment
However, want to gamble a smart way, you must perform the rules:
- Do not gamble too long
- Do not force yourself to win
- If you are losing, you should bet small, should not big bet
- Do not break the rules
If you comply with the rules, you can earn profits in gambling

Actually you wont win even if you follow this stuff, this stuff is useless and people know that we cant win in gambling especially in the long run. It is not a secret anymore and the only way to win is to invest in the site. This is the only way for people to win and I consider investing is risky like gambling as well although it is much safer

yeah I don't believe as well that by following the rules stated would guarantee profits. actually the only wise thing to do when you're gambling would be to make sure that you don't get too emotionally involved so you can stop without hesitation to avoid losing a lot of money. that's it. not to profit but to avoid losing money while enjoying
- No, My rule is not useless, it is useless if you do not comply or exceed the limits of the rules. My rules help you earn profit, investment and gambling is always risky, investment are also regarded as gambling, money is not automatically was born. If you make a profit, certainly someone else will lose. Investment is gambling, you'll lose if you do not manage your money in a reasonable manner, Do you agree?
2269  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: February 16, 2017, 08:40:56 AM
There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?


yes i do agree with you because in trading the results will be not same such as yesterday and possible too for that day you will experience to loss because you had wrong prediction

Yes that is why in trading we must have management of money and risk,
so we can doing cut lost if we are wrong in prediction of price.
So we are not too much losing money in trading because there is clear rules
for stop lost although trading is unpredictible job.
- Right, in trading, money management is very important. It helps us reduce risk, trading is unpredictable job, so I think we need to acceptable loss, I see a lot of people stubborn, do not accept losses and  then they lose all
- I just want to say trading will have winners and will have the losers, we need to acceptable and do not be so stubborn
2270  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading ways on: February 16, 2017, 08:28:02 AM
There are so many trading ways but the best way for you is to learn the basic ways or moves that will help you to earn .
Don't just analyze the chart analyze first or pick the good coins .Nowadays some scam coins are entering the sites .For me try to see the market prices ,and moving coins which you will have a great time to trade.
- In trading, I often rely on feelings, I bought very cheaply and then sell at high prices. I often wait to buy a low price, I do not know the analysis and do you think that is a way trading?
- I never interested in analysis, I believe only in the lowest buy price and that is the best way to trade
2271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 16, 2017, 08:18:32 AM
No one can't become rich from gambling, because gambling isn't a regular source of income and if you win big amount one time you try to gamble more to win more that result all your money to be lost.
That is right. I do gamble, and it started the day i was introduced in these forum and earning bitcoin.
Eversince i did not win and stop gambling my own money and savings. I was addicted to gambling that time but now I was just using my bitcoins from Faucets and use free rolls that they give.


I gamble from time to time and it's entertainment for me. I was elated when I learned about bitcoin and especially this forum because it helped me a lot to enjoy the small things in life. It's the little thing that counts. Always and you will be happy.
- Gambling is very complicated, we do not know when the online casino will be cheat. We can not get rich from gambling because casinos Always keep profits and losses are not acceptable. However it is also the place entertainment if you know of control, do not be so foolish to believe can get rich from gambling, that is impossible
2272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: February 16, 2017, 08:04:15 AM
in fact, gambling, and investments have their respective advantages. the difference only lies from time, and risk. if you want to take a big risk, with great benefits, you should try to play gambling, but if you do not want, it may be a good investment for you

You are speaking right, But in thread, he is telling that investment is more risky because most of the scam sites are here where we take a high risk if we invest in these sites, that's why gambling is better than investment sites, because all gambling sites are trustable than investment sites. So why we not play gambling than investment.
Sure, if you deposit in those scam ponzi schemes than gambling is much better option Grin
But if you are talking about real investment, where you invest in your future, than you can't say gambling is better option.

Being scammed is due to the investors poor decision and they do no do their assignment.  So basically investment in scam is investors error.  There is no way gambling will be better to a good investment.  Gambling is always riskier than investment due to the fact that the person does not have control over the result with gambling.
Investing is a way to earn money while gambling is a game to be entertain, they are both risky as we need to put our money to make money. There is no safe in this world therefore we need to acknowledge it, in order for us to do necessary measures on how to minimize the risk.
I will choose investment over gambling because I know based on experience that gambling does not give me good results.
- I agree with you, I think gambling is a recreational place to those who know control and also the "dead space" for those who do not control. And trading is also considered gambling, if you do not control, you will lose. Gambling and trading are not the problem, the problem is the ways you control and manage
2273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: February 16, 2017, 07:50:02 AM
When I started to take part in gambling I was lucky to earn good through sports betting. This gave me a hope that I'll be rich soon, but everything went opposite in a short. First even in events that don't have knowledge gave me good profit, later even in the events with considerable knowledge too fails.
- Yes, that's the trap of gambling, they give us victory in the first time and when we got addicted, bet large amounts of money, they will cheating and make us lose all money. We never realized the cheating, I recommend that you do not hope to get rich by gambling
2274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 15, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
the only people who ever tried to play both of which can differentiate trading, and gambling. when you gamble, it will be very much fun that you get, but in trading will only be tension, because if it does not fit with your predictions, then you will lose. Well, of course gambling, and trading is completely different, although both require skill, but trading requires accurate information to make a profit.
i did , and based on my opinion both trading and gambling are pretty similar. i feel sometimes there is no difference between trading and gambling when frustated have a bad analysis causing a lot of loss in trading. and sometimes feel that better to gambling rather than wasting time in trading , don't know which one true, imho it's different idk.
Trading requires patience to make a profit. And yes if anyone gets face back to back loss in any business people will get frustrated, and they will think of another source to overcome to that loss. But take time and think you will get to know which is better. The gambling is not good to compare Trading. Once you become a pro in trading, you will make money in this method. But in gambling, if you pro also there is not sure that you will make money or not.
- Right, the trading will bring great results in the long term. In trading, with the strategy and particular analysis you can bring huge profits. Trading is very interesting and it is very suitable for people want to give up gambling, because the nature of trading is gambling, money is not automatically born, if you earn money, other people will lose money
2275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 15, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
First, I want you to know is can not get rich from gambling. Gambling is entertainment
However, want to gamble a smart way, you must perform the rules:
- Do not gamble too long
- Do not force yourself to win
- If you are losing, you should bet small, should not big bet
- Do not break the rules
If you comply with the rules, you can earn profits in gambling
2276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 15, 2017, 03:54:45 PM
Most of the users who gamble are not rich, most are middle class people. Everyone needs to be rich through it, as it gives easy money. If lucky will at least have an increase in the living standard. This makes people to depend much on gambling even on loss and this eventually becomes a addiction.
- Of course, most of the wealthy will not gambling. Because they know the value of money, they will not stupid gamble, gambling does not bring them profit, it brings the loss and that's why they will not gambling. Rich people know how to use and manage money in a reasonable manner
2277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 14, 2017, 04:41:39 PM
I think there is no special strategy, it all depends on luck. However the best way to win gambling dice is the focus and continue to do the analysis. Because if without calculation then we will always lose.
How would you analyze random dice rolls.Without knowing the server seed it is hard to know what the outcome of a roll would be and even the admins would be able to predict the outcome ,if you are lucky you will win if not you will bust as usual.
it is useless when you are trying to analyze a game like dice , nothing you can do to know what the result of your roll. it is all about luck in dice, don't waste your time for something like that , just roll and see the result.

i don't believe on any strategy that a lot of people shared , i personally hate this game since long time ago.
- I agree with you, the strategy is useless and ineffective, I saw many people share the strategy, but I do not believe in it because the dice is a game based on luck. All are lucky lucky and lucky, I'll never play dice game again, because I know the end result is the number 0, we never be the winner and of course, we should not play the game that we can not win
2278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 14, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
In gambling we just know about two things
These are
Win or lose
But the question is when you do betting
You always lose
You do realize about it but why we still go through on betting place?!!!
Apologoze if my topic have already exist it just about my interesting about your opinion about my experiences
In my experience, i still gamble because i want to get back what i lost and i always think that if i play again i might become lucky this time. so thats my mindset when im playing. i know its not right but i cant help it. but that was before because i changed myself now, though its hard at first to quit gambling but if you are dedicated you can do it.

Anyone can overcome his addiction in gambling if that person is really determined to quit gambling. If he realizes the bad results caused by his addiction he can really stop himself from gambling again. The bad thing from knowing that is it is already late when we start to realize that. We need to start again from 0 if we want to recover from our life.
- Just trying, giving up gambling will be very easy. Methods is not important, important is that we really try and want to give up. We must accept the truth, we can not recover the loss in gambling
- If you continue to gamble, you will never realize you've lost a lot of things (time, money, family, friend, health, ...). Stop gambling, create good habits and feel life around, it will be good for you
2279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 14, 2017, 04:09:21 PM

not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run
100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.
- Investment, business is good and less risky than gambling. Many people gamble because they want quickly and easily, they do not accept to wait for a long time. In gambling, after playing for a long time we would be very easy to lose a lot. But in investment, after a long time, income will stable and increase profits from time to time
2280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 14, 2017, 03:56:47 PM
should know in a gamble is a need to save the capital when it was getting the victory, then use again the result of the win to win and so on
yes. saving capital must be first choice of a gambler. when someone start playing gambling he must focus to win at once (in Card games specially, because other kind of gamblings are not in his hand but depend on the luck) so he could save his own money and than can continue playing with the winning amount.
This good method to play, but I don't know how many gamblers will follow this method. Most of the gamblers are greedy people they will not control after losing their winnings. So after losing that money, they again play to get back there a loss in this process they will lose their capital. If you control emotions, then you can able to save your capital in gambling.
- I think gamblers will not be able to save capital, greed is too big, we will not be satisfied with the money that we earn. We do not accept the loss and that made us lose more than loss.
- Emotional control is very difficult. When gambling for a long time, no one can control the emotions. Time, money, greed, impatience makes us lose control. Save capital not suitable and effective in gambling
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