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2281  Other / Archival / Re: 🎲🎲vipgame.io - crypto gaming platform🌟🌟multiple rewards activities🔥 on: August 23, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
I'm a bit shocked to see there are more than 3k users on the telegram group (not channel), but there are still low activity on the site. It seems there are many people join the group for the giveaway only.

Yeah thats always the case that happens on tg groups  .  a group can have alot of members but most of them are only having the same response (i.e "joined" ,  "great project" )  those users are only joined because of the airdrops or giveaways and also some tg group owners are only buying memebers ( it could be fake ) because they wanted to make their group look big or to look more legit

It’s true that many people joined because of giveaways, and we hope to find more real players from these people.
Including me, giveaway is really need for new gambling site IMO. The newcomer will come easy because of that thing, yeah I hope you know the reason way they do that. They will find a legitimacy gambling place and try to gambling without spend their money. And I believe if they have been comfortable I mean the gambling site has a feature which can make them interested they will keep play on the gambling site.
2282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are banks scared of crypto on: August 23, 2019, 10:39:34 AM
Conceptually yes, the bank should have a scared thing to cryptocurrencies because its function is really same even more than simple compared to banks system. You can use or manage your money by yourself without pay some parties to manage your money. And I was thinking that 2009 ago Satoshi had a vision to fight bank system especially in the matter of centralized system.

However, I don't think cryptocurrency can replace the bank function in a few years ahead because the poeple still have a confident against bank. The bank system has a high security I mean when you store your money then your money lose cause some reason then I believe they will replace all your found this thing is so far with cryptocurrencies.
2283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you guys started to gambling with cryptos or fiat money? on: August 21, 2019, 01:50:15 PM
I started with fiat money, before cryptos, but only in sports bets, but after I found about cryptos I started to gambling in online casinos
And I prefer to bet with BTC, it's easier to play in any website I want

Before cryptos, it was hard to bet in my country because we have some strict laws against casinos and the IPs usually were blocked
Seems like when I use cryptocurrencies to play gambling is make me comfortable to play instead when I played gambling and come to gambling place. But that the both place have an adventage and disadventage IMHO. When I play through crypto I can't make myself keep anynomously and there is no anyone will know about me. But I played with fiat and come to gambling place I always hide myself to anyone who know me. As for the adventage to play gambling with money fiat I can keep my self to avoid a huge lose because I can hold my money on my hand but with cryptocurrencies I really hard to quite my bet although I found a huge loses.
2284  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Ethereum on: August 21, 2019, 11:51:52 AM
begitu yah gan, jadi nanti bersamaan dengan halving bitcoin yah. moga deh bisa kayak tahun 2017 kemarin, waktu bitcoin dan ETH colaps buat pump, dan hal itu berefek pada koin lainnya. moga saja perkembangan ETH 2.0 ini akan membuat harga ETH bisa melewati ATHnya kemarin..yah, kkalau udah gini ku fokus juga ngumpulin ETH lah hehe
Bukankan halving bitcoin akan berlangsung pada Mei 2020 ya? CMIIW

Memang pergerakan harga cryptocurrencies bergantung beberapa hal salah satunya bisa disebabkan oleh perkembangan teknologi yang dimiliki oleh koin itu sendiri. Secara fundamental memang saya percaya bahwa dengan informasi ini harga ETH akan mengalami kenaikan dengan beberapa alasan yang telah disebutkan diatas.

Namun disisi lain saya masih ragu ketika event tersebut terjadi harga ETH akan naik karena masih dalam ruang altcoin. Contohnya, pada 5 Agustus lalu litecoin menghadapi halving event namun dampaknya belum dirasakan hingga saat ini. Saya yakin akan berbeda dengan bitcoin, ketika ada sebuah informasi yang bagus untuk bitcoin maka harganya akan mengalami kenaikan termasuk acara halving tahun depan, namun untuk altcoin saya hanya percaya sekitar 50% harganya akan mengalami kenaikan.
2285  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Salah satu referensi untuk berinvestasi di IEO ataupun di ICO on: August 21, 2019, 11:39:24 AM
@Rohtox sedikit ingin menanyakan sesuatu, apakah agan akan selalu seperti itu? Mengandalkan sebuah forum dan analisis yang dibuat oleh orang lain untuk menyimpan uang agan?

Saya kira itu juga akan mengarah kepada hal buruk, informasi itu penting dan bisa dijadikan sebagai contoh namun alangkah baik agan mencari dan membuat analisis sendiri. Saya menyebut di OP thread ini hanya sebagai sarana pendukung bagi beberapa member diforum ini.
2286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum: 2017 vs 2019 on: August 21, 2019, 11:05:58 AM
There are a lot of thread who discuss about alt season and most of the user said the alt season will not come at this year, yeah those are only specualtion generally because we never know the altcoin season come for sure. However, you have a good choice to move your money into bitcoin rather than you choose some altcoin to store your money because that is will same as you hold ETH.

I believe bitcoin will have a good price in the next months, I read some article that says bitcoin price will goes up according some experts especially the people who have a company. More than that, there is a new who stated that Bakkt future trading will be launch on 23 september next month. Actually that is a good new we have so far since we always wait the news in last year. We have a hope that some companies will choose bitcoin as their investment since the global crisis has been coming.
2287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I Sold 2BTC at $3,000 and BTC Bumped to $10,000 on: August 21, 2019, 10:54:54 AM
I understand the circumstances you have been through. We need money to sustain our daily needs. Hold is not a better option if you have financial crisis, better sell off your bitcoin at a low price. Yes, regrets is there. But isn't more regretful if one of the family members will get sick if we don't feed them up? I can't blame your actions back then, but maybe next time you can sell off your btc at higher price and get the profits for your personal needs.
At least this thing will make him aware of bitcoin. I guess many people out there will believe that bitcoin price will goes up again when the crashed has came. They will believe bitcoin price will goes down deeply and end up with bubble. But that will never happen, even the holder of bitcoin still find the latest information againt it they must be aware that that there is many party/company who are ready to choose bitcoin as their investment place. And recently I got an information that stated Bakkt will be ready to trade bitcoin on 23 November, that is a good news actually.
2288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Private bounties on: August 20, 2019, 02:47:15 PM
I know this is happening but I would still prefer to join a bounty that is listed in bitcoin.
Why? because here we can complain and we have a very supportive active members that will expose their scams if they will do so.
Also, when they have an announcement, we will see some feedback and we would know if the project is legit or not.
May you enlightenment me the mean of the coin that listed by bitcoin?

Does it means the project who paid the promoter with bitcoin?

Thus far the project especially project IEO/ICO who paid participant with bitcoin is a few. Most of them only paid with their token, I can say that is one bounty who paid with bitcoin and you can find it on service board and most signature campaign who paid with bitcoin thus far majority only gambling place such as dice game and casino.
2289  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Newbie - when to take profit on: August 20, 2019, 02:30:24 PM
This may be a silly question - Ok so I now have £700 invested in bitcoin . Let's say it goes up by £50 - do I remove the profit and leave the working capital( £700 )in bitcoin ? Or do I take the lot?

If I take the lot then when I buy back in It may pay a higher price. What do you suggest?
Actually I still distinguish between investing and trading, I mean when I choose investing the short term target that I must sell my bitcoin is around six mounths and depend on my profit desired. I'll sell them when I got profit such as a half in my capital or one-fourth on my capital. And also I'll update the latest information actually in fudamental side tk decide between still hold or sell.

But when I choose trading I'll take a time for almost one week in long term for strategy to gain profit. If my money has been added whatever its amount I'll sell it and buy back again depend on my analyst when I use strategy to see the technical analyst. But I often to use the short time frime such as one day or even an hours if the profit that I got is big then I'll sell it.
2290  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Would you buy a house? on: August 20, 2019, 02:14:00 PM
with bitcoin you can buy anything you want. but each country has a different policy.
Don't worry about that I don't think it's a big deal to fulfill your wishes with bitcoin.
As long as the exchange is still there, we can have anything with fiat.
Buying and selling is depend on buyer and seller, if the buyer and seller agreed to make bitcoin as the payment system then we don't need government to regulate their agreement which is mean they have no right to ban them. Also, we can hide our transaction to them because they won't know that you send bitcoin on someone to buy house or etc.

For an instance, in my country the buyer system still be using for some people but it does not happen often just occasionally. There is someone who pay a worker using rice or cassava and even if someone has a rice and he has not side dishes they will change each other and appeard the question are some of these things prohibited by the state? Actually not, the system still using by some people. And this case can be applied in bitcoin to change with some assets such as house, land and etc as long as they know risk of bitcoin.

2291  Economy / Economics / Re: WHY WASTE TIME ON THE 'WRONG' INVESTOR? on: August 20, 2019, 01:50:57 PM
The first thing before you choose an expert's investor you should also know the investment place itself. It will be useless when you find an expert according to your mind but you never know the investment itself you will also same by giving up your money to other people.

And I think we don't need an expert to start investing, because we have an ability to gain money through our way. Just back again to ourselves, if try to find an understanding the ins and out how to investing and choose an investment place I guess there is many ways for us to gain money. But if not, the risk that will be faced later is much although we choose a good investor to manage our money.
2292  Economy / Gambling / Re: GOOD TIPSTER :) on: August 19, 2019, 01:51:34 PM
I'm not the tipster ! lol , i just wanted to help ! dont join if you dont want
I guess if there is someone who join the telegram group and they followed the tipster they will end up being scammed.

I just weird when you ask or help someone else in this forum to gain profit through the channel, are you the promoter?

Since there is no free way to help someone to gain money through any ways. There will be a cost to make it happens including your way here.
2293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin is falling and when will it end? [ANSWERED] on: August 19, 2019, 01:34:37 PM
I still believe this year the BTC will touch the new ATH and the fall now is just a correction so don't panic too much about the current situation.

Do you have any analysis to support this? We are almost to the end of this year and no big move so far from bitcoin. I think we should just take this year's price the way we see it and not look at a big move but if it comes, is also nice for profit taking.
There are several ways to predict bitcoin price in the future, but yeah there is no certainty or even can be trusted easily. I remember when bitcoin price went up at 2017 ago and at that time there is many specualtion who made that bitcoin price will goes up again in 2018 but that is only prediction.

Related to getting profit it is actually depends on your ability to take advantage in any condition. As you may know bitcoin price is volatile and you can saw with the movement price a few days ago such as fall to 9k and went up again to 11k we can say it is an adventage to gain profit.

You can buy at the lower price and sell it at the high price but you must be patience when the price goin down more than you bought it.I believe bitcoin price will goes up in 2020, the reason is simple i.e the halving event will come and you can learn the history when the halving event come the price bitcoin will goes up.
2294  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Salah satu referensi untuk berinvestasi di IEO ataupun di ICO on: August 19, 2019, 01:14:52 PM
Sebelumnya terima kasih mba elda yang memberikan beberapa saran terkait telegram channel yang saya lampirkan.

Sebenarnya saya belum mengetahui lebih dalam tentang beberapa telegram group yang saya cantumkan di OP namun hingga saat ini saya belum menemukan sebuah keanehan dalam berinvestasi di ICO/IEO dengan sumber rujukan telegram group diatas.

Mungkin kiranya mba elda bisa memberikan sebuah penjelasan yang bisa saya pahami dengan mudah baik itu dengan data atau menyertakan sebuah sebuah sumber bahwa telegram tersebut memiliki niat yang licik/buruk untuk para membernya.
2295  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a Stock Market Crash affect Bitcoin? on: August 18, 2019, 02:40:14 PM
Bitcoin is a promising place for investing but it is just for people who know it. I think they don't need to wait the traditional market investment crash first to move their money into bitcoin, but they will move directly when know bitcoin price decreasing and store their money into it with short term strategy.

But I doubt for those people who know traditional market only, I agree for some people above me who said they won't seek another place investment to save their money. Moreover with a bunch of negative information about bitcoin who can make their money lose in a few days those will makes they are afraid to use bitcoin as an alternative ways.

Maybe the greatest way when they found the situation and the still compel to investing they will choose gold to store their money. Yeah, I believe gold is the safe heaven to store our money since they are many people who consider that gold will have a high value although at that time its price decrease.
2296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Many new traders are playing to lose on: August 18, 2019, 08:41:53 AM
There is no related to make same between gambling and trading, that is my point. Gambling only have 30% if you play with some strategies that you owned but in trading you have for almost 70% to gain profit with your strategy do you have.

I just weird when there is someone who made a day trading which no have knowledge against it. He only start to guessing a candle chart and set buying and selling based on that.

That is correct most of them are newbie, they forget the knowledge thing before start to trade. Because I haven't found there is someone who has a knowledge and he lost a lot of money on trading.
2297  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What do you think I accept on my bitcoin website? on: August 17, 2019, 05:03:11 AM
Hello everyone, I do not understand much of bitcoin but I have wondered if on my website it would be good to accept payment with bitcoin, who do you think? it would be a good idea? Or would it still be a proco soon?
Bitcoin is digital currency who will make a transaction become easy, moreover if your country accept bitcoin as payment system I believe there will be many people who buy your stuff using bitcoin. As far as I know payment system using digital currency (money fiat) is common thing to use recently, especially for online shop.  So, that is good idea for you to make an innovation to use it, regardless for some problem such as high fee and etc it won't make some people doubt to use their bitcoin to buy your stuff.
2298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Did you trade with this exchanges before? on: August 17, 2019, 04:34:35 AM
Did you trade with this exchanges before :

Exmarkets.com
vindax.com


Are those new exchanges?

I never using them, and I try to avoid to make an exchange who hasn't been popular in the crypto exchange unless some exchange who made by some people in my country. I only use binance exchange, Bittrex exchange or OKEx exchange thus far because these exchange has trusted by many user, at least it will makes me comfortable when I using them.
2299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which platform or altcoin is best for investing. on: August 17, 2019, 04:23:26 AM
In my opinion, as long as it's new, very hard to tell if it is safe to invest. You have to observe and analyze the coin's fluctuation on the market, then make a decision to minimize the risk.
Just be careful with any platform that provide attractive deal or huge profit, they might be a scammer (not all of them).
I'm new to this, can you recommend me some reliable platforms or wallets?
I recommend to you to use Binance launchpad, OKEx, Houbi (at least those platforms will safe your money) to participate in new project.

I doubt to ICO project since you are a newbie to this field, unless you have got more understanding to make an analyst against it.
2300  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Salah satu referensi untuk berinvestasi di IEO ataupun di ICO on: August 17, 2019, 04:07:29 AM
Mungkin ini adalah informasi lama yang sudah diketahui oleh banyak member di forum ini tetapi mungkin ada beberapa newbie disini yang belum mengetahui informasi ini terutama bagi mereka yang ingin atau sudah berniat untuk investasi di ICO atau IEO sehingga bisa dijadikan sebagai salah satu sumber pendukung untuk menghindari beberapa hal yang diinginkan.

1. Untuk informasi ICO sendiri saya lebih menyukai untuk bergabung langsung di group telegram ICO Drops- ICO News & Alert silahkan bagi yang ingin bergabung bisa langsung pergi ke channel nya https://t.me/icodrops ataupun agan juga bisa pergi ke website channel tersebut di https://icodrops.com/.

2. Untuk informasi IEO saya bergabung di group telegram https://t.me/ico_analytic sebenarnya ini bukan group diskusi namun hanya memberikan sebuah informasi terkait IEO dan beberapa project/token/coin baru yang sudah bisa diperdagangkan di beberapa exchanges.

Informasi tambahan.

Telegram channel dibawah ini akan memberikan informasi tentang pergerakan whales di pasar cryptocurrency

https://t.me/whale_alert_io

INGAT, investasi di cryptocurrency mempunyai tingkat resiko yang tinggi. Lakukan analisis oleh diri sendiri sebelum memutuskan untuk berinvestasi.


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