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2281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero under scrutiny of the FBI on: February 08, 2017, 10:39:35 AM
I am not buying it.. that is weak shit guys.
By all means i will try and bow out and let all these other guys respond to you 2 shill's.
Step up people.. do you buy this shit they keep posting here ?

Why are you all silent ?

All i see is really weak defense retorts and projecting etc.
You chant "Cult" and then use misdirection pointing the finger at DASH.
When it is YOU GUYS that have the fucking cult !

Lucky for you guys you can spin bullshit galore.. the crowd here doesn't care.
They care about ROI'z.. not failed ideological views.
..or poorly thought out analogies.  Cheesy
2282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / A picture is worth ? on: February 08, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
2283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero - Marketing Team & Tactics on: February 08, 2017, 09:28:21 AM
You realize just because you download GitHub.zip and mod some lines doesn't make it NOT a clone eh

and oooooh you dare encroach on the fine reputation of the glorious coin called JackpotCoin ?

HAHHAHA i don't know what it is, but i like this guy.. eh  Cheesy

Just want to add Monero inc and their corporate "non-profit" gambling division had some drama. (hacked)
Is it just me or is that gay coin wrapped in drama 24/7 forever ?
(who thought it would be a good idea to name the coin "monero" ?Roll Eyes

And i found it funny the Monero guy above ignored the guys question about Dark Markets..
But had plenty of straw-man accusations.. again. (the Monero Shill play-book is small)
2284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero under scrutiny of the FBI on: February 08, 2017, 09:10:28 AM
Many of these guys insist that the purpose of crypto-currencies is to be rebellious and defy law.
I'd say it is more commonly believed than not.
I am not sure Satoshi etc envisioned that agenda.
But the crowd that showed up later sure as hell did / does.

That guy Dinofelis here for example many times has said things like,
The purpose is to topple FIAT and basically "Stick it to the man"
No surprise he has a defensive stance on Monero.

I have no stance either way on it really.

I am not saying go hunt dark market guys etc.
I don't care what they do.. it doesn't interest me in the slightest.

I strive for fairness for all.
I would envision a currency that is fair for all sides legal or not.

A digital currency should not be rigged to violate the rights of potential criminals.
Would you want your FIAT money "colored" tagged so they could track everyone in the hopes of tracking the criminals ?
I'd say NO !

I advocate the right for people to commit crimes.
For example i would not approve of technology that caught users before they committed the crime.
..as seen in movies.

Sure break your laws but i would expect repercussions.

I've never understood why cops try and ban pedo porn on the web.
Let them post it.
..it would make it 100000x easier to catch them all and arrest them ROFL

Make a coin to circumvent AML or TAX law etc then you will HAVE to suffer the consequences.. as the laws says right now !

Do Crypto users think a coin was going to be created that circumvents any and all financial law forever ?
Was this what you were all thinking in this scene all along ?

I don't think most of you gave it any thought.. aside from how much BTC/FIAT will XYZ shitcoin make me ?

Maybe you all should give some thought to the direction your machine you crated here is traveling ?
2285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero GUI Wallet Release on: February 08, 2017, 08:53:52 AM
LOL  webwallets

#fail

That was not a web wallet, it is a screen shot of the native UI that Monero developed in 2014 (can be downloaded and compiled and it does work but back end functions are stubbed out). Work to integrate it with the rest of the code was put on hold for a while to focus on other priorities and is ongoing now.



Like what ? FluffyPony making a gambling website that was hacked ?


It would be interesting to know if this was a custom API or a public one, meaning that maybe other sites are affected and their owners could use this news to protect their sites too.
Of course patching your own is top priority.


Custom API, so I don't think this affects anyone else. We've disabled betting in the meantime whilst we sort this out, but I really think the lesson to other operators is not to be overconfident in your code or in your setup. Everything can and will be compromised, so assume it's going to happen and put safeguards in place to handle that eventual scenario.
2286  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcointalk Post Iconizer - Custom post / PM editing buttons for adding BB code on: February 08, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
I think i get it and i wonder what it will look like.. i don't see a preview / example.
Hmm maybe i don't understand after all seeing the topic title.. how about a picture to see what you mean ?

First thing i thought was isn't the new forum getting closer to coming out ?
Will this be ported ? Assuming it does not have this (i have never seen the new forum)

I think this is scam and i FUD this  Angry

He just wants our BTC  Cheesy  Grin

Add Litecoin  Cool
2287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ETF collapsing the altcoin market when aproved? on: February 08, 2017, 08:35:03 AM
Interesting.. i'd swear you were Vlad2Vlad

He has been talking about that since 2013.. saying what you said.

I bet you are right too.. ALT's would tank i bet.. *if
2288  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Localbitcoins Banned my Account for no reason Scam. on: February 08, 2017, 08:28:16 AM
I've already told, they banned me for broken card(amazon gift cards) and leaving a feedback for no reason
The guy who tries to sell me the gift card(broken one) closed the trade after I told him it was deactivated, but he never got banned(because I didn't report him) and I didn't KNOW the card was deactivated, please review all proofs up.
If you look at it from a judge's point of you,you were actually equally part of the crime as much as the boy who was selling it to you.You should know it's against their terms and should be prohibited on any costs.He played really smart after selling you the card lol

I was already thinking this before i seen your comment LOL

Quote
About Amazon Gift Card Restrictions

There are certain restrictions with Amazon.com Gift Cards, such as not being able to purchase gift cards using a gift card and not being able to transfer them to another account once the claim code has been redeemed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_525378_abgcrest?nodeId=201138990

..it's like whining Paypal locked your account while trading crypto coins with it.  Cheesy
2289  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The hunt for Triswardhani (Lithium - XLTH) on: February 08, 2017, 08:14:48 AM
Once you guys find out enough information I suggest you call Interpol, cunts are fucked now, they are just lying and waiting Wink

https://www.interpol.int
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol


These are the Men & Women who are paving the way the Law is Served Internationally for Internet Crime !


Idiots you cry Free market No Laws Decentralization so.. YOU can make money off sketchy bullshit ICO's

Then if one of them does not pan out like you hoped you do the complete opposite.. call the cops  Cheesy

You chose to have no rules.. no laws no accountability of any kind.
You made your bed greedy idiots then sleep in it and grow the fuck up.
2290  Economy / Gambling / Re: Monero dice seed hacked? on: February 08, 2017, 07:51:40 AM
I think probably it is added back to the investors at the time of adding back. So if someone divested, he won't get anything, but if someone invested, he would get a share of the added back amount Huh

Yeah, that's how it sounds like. Actually when I designed the moneypot investment system, what I did was create a repayable log of all the investment/divestment/bet events for in a nightmare situation like this (or software bug) it could be replayed so investors wouldn't have made/lost money from the changes in the bankroll when a fake better (or software bug) was playing.

The situation is probably a big mess now, as some investors have lost more than they should've and others made more than they should've. And it's probably pretty likely the ones who unfairly made money have already withdrawn (?) or at the very least, will be unhappy if their balance gets put to the correct amount

Reminds me of Cryptsy's POINTS hack roll-back drama.
Seems the Monero guys who make a coin and RUN a GAMBLING SITE BUSINESS using said coin are smarter than everyone else.. except when they get hacked.. via "over confidenceCheesy

I think he is lucky only. how hack seed? it's impossible.

We found the bug he exploited that leaked the seed, and we've subsequently patched it.

Oh yeah ?
I guess just take your word for it huh ?
What makes you think there was an exploit in your API ?
..the result ?

I understand the risk is on the investors too and the situation would have been different if the cheater managed to withdraw all the money.

But the cheater didn't get any of it, so if you do rewind the cheater's bets, it seems very obvious that you should refund to the affected investors. To suggest otherwise seems ridiculous to me. And to give free money to people who invested after the whole situation seems even more crazy.

We made a decision on how to handle it at the time, under pressure, to the best of our ability. You are welcome to disagree with that decision, but unless you're in that scenario running your own site your opinion is largely meaningless. It's easy to look at it after the fact and go "well I would have done X" - I can think of any one of 30 different ways we could have handled things.

That seems like a normal thing to do. If I see a site is hacked, obviously my first reaction is to withdraw my own money. You must be pretty stupid to not immediately make sure your left-over money is safe.

So then you cut your losses and you get out, the end. There is no coming back later on to try reclaim imagined profit.

Perhaps a comparison will help: let's say that you have 10 BTC in Poloniex. You hear that Poloniex isn't processing BTC withdrawals, along with panic that they're hacked, and use your BTC to buy a bunch of WaffleCoin and withdraw it. You sell your WaffleCoin on ShapeShift, but now the market's tanked and you end up with 9 BTC. Later that day Poloniex put out a statement apologising for the issues and stating that they're now fixed. Would you insist that they roll the trades back? What about the shorters that took profit from you?

Or what if you invested in a startup, and then when it looked like things were going south you sold your investment at a loss. Two years later the startup is a huge, successful company. Do you insist on taking profit from the growth because you *used to be* an investor?

You shouldn't roll the whole database back, you should look which investors got affected by the cheater and how much they lost. In theory just the rolls and invest/divest information, should be sufficient. I understand it's technically tricky and needs some custom script to calculate, but that seems like the only fair way.

EG: you have the invested amounts of the current investors. Loop all events (= all bets + divests/invests) from latest to start of cheater. First event is probably some real bet after the cheater, recalculate what the invested amounts where before that bet. Second event same. If event is a invest/divest, adjust invested amounts too. Then when you reach the last bet of cheater, you should have all the info of which investors were invested at that time including the amount. Separately save how much they lost (or gained) in that cheater's bet. Continue loop and if the event is a cheater's bet, do the same. All till you are back to the first cheater's bet. IMO after this, you should have a list of investors with specific amounts of how much they lost? Reimburse those amounts to the investors.

We thought about this, but we decided that it would be too dangerous for us to spend days and weeks trying to build a magical "undo" script, completely wrecking any auditability, and potentially ending up with a screwed up data set at the end.

BillyBurns already made a loss from the cheater? So if you decided the losses were on the investors, nothing would have changed? He wouldn't need to deposit - he is already in loss.

edit: TBH I am not sure how many investors actually divested like BillyBurns. If he is the only one, things are probably more easy :x But just the mindset of refunding the investors who actually lost money seems important to me.

With all respect to the affected investor, he took his $100 loss and walked away. He didn't contact us, he didn't ask for input on how we were going to handle things. He just assumed that it was the end, and he would have been the *only* investor to get out with his money had we not had safeguards and had the attacker been able to actually drain the wallet. What would have happened then?

You stated at the outset that you understand that the situation would have been different had the attacker managed to withdraw, but you're not actually following that thought through. Had that played out we'd have a total loss on the part of all the investors, and one investor who only incurred a $100 loss, and you can bet that investor wouldn't volunteer to divvy up his remaining funds among the affected investors.

Ultimately you're asking us to take up a morally hazardous position. What happens when someone "accidentally" places a large bet and loses? Should we undo their bet, and take the profits from the investors? An investor that divests and withdraws is no longer part of the bankroll. They bailed out with a profit or with a loss, and that's the end of that.

Nevertheless, I've already offered to send $100 to the affected investor, so I'm not sure what more you expect?

Teach us how gambling sites are *suppose* to work. LOL
Does this involve SPECULATING a seed was compromised ?

And who exactly is "we" ?
Is King Risto involved with the site in any way ? Who is ?
2291  Economy / Gambling / Re: Monero dice seed hacked? on: February 08, 2017, 07:30:38 AM
It would be interesting to know if this was a custom API or a public one, meaning that maybe other sites are affected and their owners could use this news to protect their sites too.
Of course patching your own is top priority.


Custom API, so I don't think this affects anyone else. We've disabled betting in the meantime whilst we sort this out, but I really think the lesson to other operators is not to be overconfident in your code or in your setup. Everything can and will be compromised, so assume it's going to happen and put safeguards in place to handle that eventual scenario.

I am bookmarking this comment gold  Cheesy

Best comment of 2017 so far easily.
2292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero under scrutiny of the FBI on: February 08, 2017, 06:18:48 AM
As soon as i seen Smoothie as the last poster here i clicked..
figuring i'd see the "Like Cash / Fiat" retort.. nope. (he used the internet)

Then.. generalizethis "Mr Fungability" played the retort  Cheesy

You guys are a broken record skipping on and on..



EDIT:

In other news the Monero dev's dice gambling site he runs was hacked for a fortune people.

Aww poor Monero can't catch a break hahahhah
2293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero under scrutiny of the FBI on: February 08, 2017, 05:37:39 AM
@smoothie
That retort is REALLY weak.

Comparing creating a Dark market coin to using the normal Internet ?

..come on  Roll Eyes  Cheesy

I think you guys have painted yourselves into a corner by design since day one.

OWN IT !
2294  Other / Off-topic / [POLL] IMDB Forums Closing Forever FEB 20th 2017 on: February 08, 2017, 04:18:42 AM
They put the below quoted message on every forum page header.. i highlighted the important part.

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IMPORTANT: IMDb is the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content. As part of our ongoing effort to continually evaluate and enhance the customer experience on IMDb, we have decided to disable IMDb's message boards on February 20, 2017. This includes the Private Message system. After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide. The decision to retire a long-standing feature was made only after careful consideration and was based on data and traffic. See more

Full Announcement = http://www.imdb.com/board/announcement

Funny enough i posted here asking for Trolls to come and join me over there. (few days ago)
I came back a few hours later and that message was added.
I am sure it was a coincidence but it was still pretty funny.

I think the jist of it is.. they are killing it because "Trolls"  Cheesy

So do you all think this is cool ? Thoughts ?

PS:
I voted NO ..leave it open.
2295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do Altcoin Dev's Deserve Money ? on: February 08, 2017, 04:06:00 AM
Last thing i did with Bitcoin was donate it to a DEV at XDA for the work he did for free.
I told him to advertise his address.. i don't think he did but i looked right now and i see he has a second payment now.

I gave him maybe $23 worth.

At least he got a gesture of appreciation.
And i got him involved maybe supporting Bitcoin etc.

I have done work before and refused a donation etc.
Then you have guys around here who are demanding a payment of 1 million dollars before they will do any work.

ICO regulations and laws is the big problem i have.

You know people when i showed up here mid-2013 we all thought of "Premines" as bad.
So why are 100% premines (the ICO) acceptable ?

Simple.. morality changed.
It became acceptable because of how history played out.

Users did not want the hassle and expense of buying mining hardware to "support" a coin.
And yes it is support !
If you bought hardware to secure the block-chain then you are providing a useful function.

What happened ? SCRYPT ASICS.
Once those rolled out the markets were getting abused by whales super mining + dumping.
And more and more clones were getting rolled out at a fast pace.

Then the concept of the ICO took hold because BOTH SIDES seen an advantage.
Users dumped all their GPU's on eBay etc.
And dev's started side stepping the issue by doing direct release to ICO schemes.
This enabled cloners to REALLY start pumping shit out.. streamlining the process.

THEN MOST OF YOU SHOWED UP AFTER THE FACT

..thinking this is how it always was and SHOULD BE.

WRONG !

Just because you managed so far to get away with it does not mean you are doing something acceptable.
You all lowered the bar to ridiculous levels.. it's been scrapping on the ground for ages people and it's embarrassing
 Embarrassed

Reality Check:
Think of yourselves as investors all you want but..
Realize you are Lawless "Free Market" Investors.
2296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Follow Cryptsy investigations at /r/cryptsyinsolvency on: February 07, 2017, 11:15:52 PM
@thejaytiesto
You have been following the Cryptsy scam topic right ?

It's not only the ring shit but his ex-wife Lorie Nettles got 800K for the mansion bought with stolen money.

Further more that asshole is on the run with MILLIONS of dollars in coins still.
And all the other Cryptsy staff are still here flogging shitcoins.

Mullick "the wallet guy" was trying to set up a cloud mining scheme.

JSHock was last seen on social media flogging RateCoin for Stakeminers.com scammer Leroy Fodor / Cyberpinoy and Terrik (Michael Wilterdink)

DCGirl popped up to defend Paul Vernon and claimed she was talking with him on the phone in China and has since vanished.

Probably more i forgot.. CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

..they are all around still as though nothing happened.
2297  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 07, 2017, 05:48:16 PM
I figured as much.. diversions again.

Sorry I was just answering a question. That dialogue I was making should be on other thread I think.

Playing games.

I think we have a combo of factors going on here..
It's convenient to try and have long winded arguments ongoing for 200 pages while people chime in.
Then you can divert to it anytime with massive long winded tech rabble rants that will of course exclude most people.
2298  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Lauda/TMAN/minifrij extortion attempt on: February 07, 2017, 05:42:18 PM
Was Lauda fired or not ?
To me, it is obvious he was fired.

Blazed still has Lauda within his trust list, and this makes Blazed look like he thinks a self-admitted extortionist should be trusted by everyone. In my book, this means Blazed is not quite as trustworthy as he presents himself to be.

@shorena
That was highly evasive.

And what i said about VOD is bad and you played off like it was no big deal.
It's not just the crap he's pulled on me ..there has been many complaints about him before.
And all i have seen for years is "the club" protecting him and turning a blind eye to the shit he pulls
..over & over.

Any guesses why i have 0 respect for the DT list of idiots ?
I couldn't care less about any of them or their opinions or their faggy little ratings.

What it amounts to is forming little groups of circle jerking bum buddy eFriends here.
That will fast track you to the DT list and get you made staff.
Which to me is a sign of insecure, childishness and ineptitude.
All these guys who think they are better than noob accounts have a massive chip on their shoulder.
And think their shit don't stink and they are a model of perfect behavior.

Bullshit.

ALL OF THEM simply break the rules when ever and how ever they want freely.
And their buddies help them cover it up.

The regular people i deal with do not need to be PM'd all the time.
We are smart enough to know what the other is thinking at ALL TIMES.

Shorena i lost any respect i might have had for you.. it's gone.
VOD did what i said.. that is a fucking fact !
And you shouldn't have even needed me too say what i did earlier either.
the signs should have been obvious long ago.. which shows me you are either deceitful or dumb or both.

Assholes covering for other assholes..
While making sure to punish any new guys who show up doing the same thing.. with neg's.
The Bitcointalk Back Room Boys club can fucking blow me hard.
Your opinions are fucking dog shit /.

And THAT is based on YOUR ACTIONS people.

..not "opinion"

I'd value the opinion of a 0 post noob account more than you DT idiots.
Did i mention Kluge ?
Yup his bum-buddies here smooth over his trolling death threats on me before.
Because apparently "i deserved it"

Which *IS* the key problem here.

DT faggots thinking their bad behavior is always justified.
Yet not when it's a noob account showing up you just negged.
2299  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pro scammers tactics on: February 07, 2017, 05:24:38 PM
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And i also bet you had a voice in your head with FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt)
..but you didn't listen to it.
Exactly, I just ignored it. I should allow myself to listen to that in such cases.

THAT is why i think i am smart.

THAT has saved my life more than once.
YOU are the smart one everyone else is an idiot.

Everyone is trying to convince you of shit for THEIR agenda's.
Even your family and friends..

Your own voice should be the deciding factor.
With age you get better at listening to that voice you have that warns you.

The worst thing that can happen is dick heads can strip the confidence away you have in yourself.
And they try..
They all want to plant seeds of doubt then whisper in your ear to manipulate you.

Be strong.
Don't willingly give away your power.
It's yours.. use it !

Bottom Line:
I *AM* sorry to hear about your loss.. 8 grand is a painful lesson.
Hopefully you REALLY did learn a lesson here and your topic here can prevent others from learning the hard way.

If it sounds to good to be true.. it is probably a bad risk to take.
Which is what this stuff is about.. risk assessment.. and making reasonable & sane decisions.
2300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Would you support Spoetnik if he had an ICO? on: February 07, 2017, 05:13:25 PM
If i ever have an ICO and raise a pile of money ?

I will start a Crypto-Militia !
I will enlist a gang of goons to do crypto-street justice sweeping up the scam'z Grin
We can be called the "Crypto-SS" and i will be like the Goerbels (Minister of Propaganda)

Finally Operation Shitcoin Cleanup will will take over and control the scene.

If we are lucky we can join forces with law enforcement maybe and get resources and assistance from them getting scammers locked up behind bars.

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