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2281  Economy / Economics / Re: BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR 6 YEARS on: October 22, 2019, 04:29:15 PM
Halving equals more scarce.
Halving equals less inflation.... it in no shape or form equals Bitcoin to be more scarce than it already. Scarcity in Bitcoin doesn't always play much of a role because during a bear market there are more sellers than buyers

It is not just about scarcity alone

As it is always about utility too as these two characteristics of an asset, service or good are complementary and work hand in hand. What I mean to say is that utility has the same effect on price as scarcity. If Bitcoin becomes more useful (when, for example, people start to use it more widely as a means of payment) its utility rises which leads to higher prices even if its scarcity doesn't change or even decreases (i.e. Bitcoin becomes more abundant). Conversely, if people become less interested in it, Bitcoin's utility goes down - along with its price
2282  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Libra Disrupt The Financial/Economic System? on: October 22, 2019, 12:12:29 PM
I remember some years (or maybe even decades ago) there was a Canadian company which tried to do essentially the same, i.e. to issue a private currency that was going to compete with the official money (the Canadian dollar). Not surprising at all, they were outlawed by the Canadian authorities and eventually bankrupted. This seems to be an inevitable outcome of any such effort or initiative. So why should Facebook be different?
To be honest, facebook currency or Libra is very unnecessary in our economy. We already have a lot of fiat currencies in different countries and we already have a lot of option in terms of having a virtual or digital currency like Paypal. We are already all set in becoming a cashless society so having Libra coin as a new project related to currency is useless because we already have that system a lot of years ago.

Actually, there can be certain advantages

In fact, if done right, Libra can combine the benefits of the both worlds - those of fiat and crypto. Because it is a stable coin, you don't need to worry about volatility, and you would send it without the habitual pain in the ass that international money transfers typically cause. In other words, it can be quite useful in certain areas and for certain applications. That's likely one of the reasons why it causes such butthurt in the banking as well as payment industry (and their lobbies in the government)
2283  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Libra Disrupt The Financial/Economic System? on: October 22, 2019, 11:00:02 AM
Facebook worth today is worth billions of dollars and this money is mainly gotten from the people that are patronizing their product,  and these same set of people are the ones they will still impose the use if their Libra coin on which is quite more than enough for their business population to make their project a very big success.
They are worth billions because of the business model they have which is not interfering with the economic situation of a country, if they are planning to launch a private currency that can be used globally then it will be a different story as no government will approve those secondary financial system growing inside a country and they will try to stop that in their roots and that is what is happening now and if they pursue with Libra then they will face legal challenges with their current business too

Facebook is not the first business trying to launch a private currency

I remember some years (or maybe even decades ago) there was a Canadian company which tried to do essentially the same, i.e. to issue a private currency that was going to compete with the official money (the Canadian dollar). Not surprising at all, they were outlawed by the Canadian authorities and eventually bankrupted. This seems to be an inevitable outcome of any such effort or initiative. So why should Facebook be different?
2284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: October 22, 2019, 10:43:20 AM
Maybe the richest person is the one who are making gambling as a profession because they have a lot of funds to bet or gamble. They just gamble their money and they earn while sitting and just playing in some casinos. You can meet those people in the famous casinos that they are the one who are just playing and they earn money. For me gambling as a profession is a hard time or a big risk taking because you can lose a lot of money by this and I see a lot of people down on debt because of gambling.

Most of them don't earn with gambling. Those rich people you are talking about can lose $10k without even noticing. So, they play big games without fear of losing, and if they lose they don't talk about it. But when they win (which happens too, of course, because as much as no one can be constantly winning, no one can be constantly losing either), they talk about it a lot, and then we get the impression that they can make big money with gambling

If I'm not mistaken, this is called selection bias

And it is the same with lottery. We hear a lot about lottery winners ("from shithouse to penthouse") and know almost nothing about losers (who are standing small indeed). So even if we do understand in a semiconscious way that there cannot be only winners or their number cannot be big, we are still subliminally made to believe that it is not really so (this technique is called priming). And I'm not even talking about cases of "natural" selection bias when it occurs spontaneously without someone's ill intent or purpose
2285  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank: If The Entire System Collapses, Gold Will Be Needed To Start Over on: October 22, 2019, 08:02:42 AM
You know why USA printed 800 billion dollars out of thin air in 2008 when their whole deficit was couple trillion dollars? Because if wall street banks collapsed right there, then there would be THOUSANDS of companies going bankrupt in a single day with MILLIONS of jobless people out in the streets having nowhere to go or having any money to spend. USA would turn into Venezuela very quickly

Your words are going to fall on deaf years

The reason for this is quite simple, though. To see things in their true light and proper perspective, you have to be an expert in these things, and while it is a prerequisite for drawing correct conclusions and inferences, it is still not a guarantee of their correctness because you may lack some important information (like pieces of a puzzle). Little needs to be said that the majority of people lack both such expertise and such information. But that doesn't prevent them from thinking they always know better, of course

PS: CryptoTalk bitches, please stop quoting my comment except you really want to address specific things.

Welcome to the club!
2286  Economy / Economics / Re: Paper Money - The Greatest Scam on: October 22, 2019, 07:46:38 AM
Thats how I read it, some banks increase their gold holdings every year and possibly the ratio of their gold to currency issued also.   So those countries are improving the quality of their money and its possible the market respects that and may raise the effective value

Personally, I don't see a lot of connection here

As long as you can't convert your paper money to physical gold in accordance with the ratio of gold reserves to amount of money in circulation (what you seem to be trying to convey in your post), it makes no difference. I mean, the government can pile up gold like there's no tomorrow, and the currency can still be weak, unstable, and highly inflationary due to insane monetary policies of the same government. If you could in fact redeem paper money for gold, that would technically mean a variety of gold standard implemented (which is prohibited by the IMF rules)

Russia and China have both been large buyers of gold in the last ten years and globally central banks have been net buyers of gold for a decade and I think that trend will continue because debt markets will likely reset or become illiquid

Because they know they don't stand a damn chance in the modern world on their own. Their economies will collapse if they lose their foreign markets
2287  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Халвинг Лайткоинга, чего ожидать on: October 21, 2019, 03:16:04 PM
Майнеры разбегаются аднака

Кто там куда разбегается?



И что там говорил Карл Маркс (зачеркнуто) Марк Твен по поводу трех видов лжи? Но это далеко не все, что он говорил. Еще он говорил, что по нынешним, то есть по его тогдашним временам верить можно только половине из того, что видишь, и ничему из того, что слышишь. Ну а если уже говорить конкретно за настоящее время, то верить вообще ничему и никому нельзя (мне верить можно)
2288  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some not so obvious things that damage a country's economy? on: October 21, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Things that damage the economy indirectly.

For example I feel that fast food and an unhealthy lifestyle leads chronic health problems that probably affects the economy not just monetarily.

Of course we can't just deny these people care, just promote a healthier lifestyle.

What are other things that we can change that will affect the economy in a positive way?

The weather or pollution. Clean countries seems happier, like Switzerland, Sweden, Norway etc. Clean countries happen also to be richer. So this goes hand in hand

And do you happen to know why?

Because they have either moved most of their industrial complex to countries which are poor or been able to shut it down completely by exporting things from those poor countries. Note, I don't make a value judgment here as this is how things stand in a world like ours

In other words, this cleanness is definitely at someone else's expense, whether we like or not. And while we are at it, Europe is the most suicidal region in the whole world (with Scandinavian countries closer to the top of the list). So much for "happiness" (perhaps, they feel guilty, or something)
2289  Economy / Economics / Re: What are the odds that the government/banks will truly create their own coin? on: October 21, 2019, 11:23:40 AM
Am very sure that China is going to create their very own cryptocurrency just like Maduro did in Venezuela but one thing I want to know is if the value of the crypto will rise in value like the way bitcoin and gold rises in value. If the crypto that the governments makes doesn't am certain that it's not going to be a threat to Bitcoins at all

Petrocoin (or whatever its name) was a complete failure

While the rumors of China creating their own variety of cryptocurrency have been circulating since 2016 (if not earlier). But the truth is, if they really wanted to do something to that effect, they would have done it long ago. Some folks (for example, Christopher Giancarlo, the ex-head of the CFTC) are even suggesting the blockchain-based dollar run by the cartel of banks and thus not controlled by the Federal Reserve. How likely is that? I don't think that very much
2290  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 21, 2019, 10:32:09 AM
tracked is not something about real identity but about the user's statistic. That's why many gamblers hide their username so no other users/players able to know the statistic of the account

And I come to agree with that

To put it differently, if this privacy option referred only to hiding one's name but you still could see their stats, it would be possible to guess or work out who these stats refer to by indirect references or slips of tongue made by forum members - even if you wouldn't know their user name at wolf.bet. And as I also come to think, this is not what most people would really want or readily agree with. The point is, it is not just about hiding one's stats as such. It is also what can be worked out on their basis (quite a lot of things, actually)
2291  Economy / Economics / Re: Current Market state on: October 21, 2019, 08:33:57 AM
This year, bitcoin showed a good price increase only in the second quarter, increasing almost four times, however, altcoins reacted very weakly to this growth of bitcoin and this was quite unusual for the cryptocurrency market

Technically, that's not quite true

Most altcoins (Litecoin, Ethereum, EOS, etc) had also shown quite spectacular performance at first. In fact, they were massively outperforming Bitcoin for some time (e.g. Litecoin rose 7 times from its early 2019 lows). But then the correction started, and while for Bitcoin it was indeed a correction, for the rest of the pack it looked more like a painfully long panic sell (even though the altcoin market is still far from its yearly lows)
2292  Economy / Economics / Re: Millennial generation are screwed! on: October 21, 2019, 07:58:19 AM
Millennial are screwed because of baby boomer generation nothing less. That generation came in during the manufacturing part of the world where everyone basically produced something at some factory and it was enough money to buy a house, send your kids to college, get a car every 3-5 years and so forth.

Look at the wages of millennial right now, no kidding look at the same job that was done 50 years ago and same job today and tell me the difference, back in the day if you did a manual labor job you would earn enough salary to buy a house in 5-10 years, now you would have not spend a single cent of that salary for 10 years to even get half a decent housing.

Okay but how is that the baby boomers' fault? They just had it better than us. Generation Z will have it worse than millennials too

But whose fault is it then?

Look, you can't just say it is the "changing nature of productive capitalism". It is an abstract idea or notion which in practice can be traced back to individual decisions and choices made by people, actually by many people. In the end it all comes down to people and what they do (and avoid doing), be it capitalism, communism, or whatever. See my point now? Who if not baby boomers are to be held responsible for all this shit, aliens?
2293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the Faith of Casino business owners? on: October 21, 2019, 07:10:02 AM
Moreover, gambling is not something that needs to be hidden. It is not a threat to anyone’s life for sure

That depends on your particular circumstances

More specifically, I'm not sure that you would like to be open and upfront about your gaming (gambling) activities if you happened to live in Saudi Arabia, North Korea, or Iran (not sure about Iran, though). But even if you are lucky to live in a more "democratic" country, you should still be cautious and careful about telling the world about what you do as it could raise certain questions from, say, tax authorities as to the source of your income (even if gambling itself is not prohibited)
2294  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 21, 2019, 06:25:50 AM
people hide their names for a reason Smiley
the main reason - they do not want to be tracked or listed or annoyed in any other shape or form

How can they be tracked?
Users cannot be tracked only with a username. If their username is public they are still anonymous. There are some users with public usernames. But no one know them.
My username in bitcointalk is now public. Do you know me?

Tracked here does not mean that we will be able to know the real identity of the player. It is more about tracking the account's statistic IMO, i.e how many times the user won the race, how much the user have wagered, how much the profit, etc.

But isn't it what the hidden option deals with specifically?

I mean it is not just about hiding one's user name (for example, my user name here is the same as at wolf.bet) but also one's stats and what not. If you could see someone's stats behind their hidden status, you would still be able to track that user eventually (by circumstantial evidence or whatever). If anything, I'm in favor of hiding everything once you chose to hide your user name since otherwise it doesn't make a lot of sense (as it leaves plenty of holes)
2295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin and casinos on: October 20, 2019, 07:21:47 PM
~

Was it Mark Twain who said that there are three kinds of lies?

Namely, lies, damned lies, and statistics. And since the intensity seems to be rising from left to right, we must assume that statistics are the most insidious and treacherous form of lies, even more damned than the most damned of all lies.~

Mark Twain was living in 19th century. Stats back then and today are two different things. Newsmen in 19th century often presented their lies as statistics because there was no way to check the facts. If, living in the 21st century, someone doesn't believe in statistics, he/she is pretty close to flat-Earthers, imo. It's a dangerous way to live, if you ask me

Was that actually intended as a piece of irony or sarcasm?

Or do you really believe that today's newsmen are less immoral that their colleagues from the 19th century? The problem is not with stats as such but how you interpret them. In this particular case, when you see that 40M people visited casinos, you come to think that these are all different people. But we don't know that for sure, and thus can misinterpret these stats in every possible way. That was Mark Twain's point as I see it, that the same stats can be explained and understood in quite polar ways

The vast majority of Las Vegas visitors are middle-class customers, and although some of them still can be well educated, most of them are definitely not

In fact, I heard that narrative many years ago, that the majority of money comes from simple folks. But that must be an urban legend, myth, or something to that effect

C'mon! You are an economist, and you don't know that the majority of money comes from simple folks? I just can't believe that! I've been admiring your posts here since 2015. It's unbelievable what people can say in attempts of winning an argument

Actually, a wealth distribution chart typically reveals a completely different picture

Of course I know that questioning my own opinion is always healthy. So, if you have some reliable sources telling that the majority of the visitors of Las Vegas-style casinos are very rich people, or "crème de la crème", as you put it, I'd love to see them

What do they say, seeing is believing? Have you been to Vegas?
2296  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to control your emotions while trading?‍ on: October 20, 2019, 04:25:44 PM
Hmm might be but we also can understand the market movement from our own feelings if we are in control of it.We have to just act to the opposite of what we are doing that is how whale move the market,having stop loss can save us from great losses but we still have to active to be in profits that is what a trader supposed to do

It has been tried out already, and no, it doesn't appear to work. For example, you are inevitably losing in the long run, so you set up a system which automatically changes your orders into their opposites without you even being aware of it (or someone else sets it up for you to try out this approach). So when you buy something, the system sells it, and vice versa (let's assume you can both sell and buy)

Does it mean you will stop losing?
Not from every losses but it can save us from serious losses when the whales dump the market

We can know that only in hindsight

Unless we have insider info which we typically don't (I mean, en masse). As an illustrative example, when the price of some cryptocurrency starts to move down big time (think Bitcoin here, for simplicity's sake), we essentially have three modi operandi (plural of modus operandi, i.e. a particular way of doing something), which are described in detail below. Maybe someone can come up with something entirely different

First, we can do nothing, i.e. wait out the bad times and hope for the best, in this case, for the price to recover (eventually or otherwise, sooner or later). It may pan out but as easily it may not. For example, those who bought at anything above 15k are still deeply in red, and many of them have already lost all hope and called it a day by fixing losses (so much for doing nothing)

Then, we can sell immediately and thus prevent losses from accumulating and multiplying. But this is not a panacea either since, as I said, we can only measure the bottom once we have touched it and rebounded from it. In other words, selling in these circumstances can in fact turn out quite counterproductive, and instead of preventing losses, we can set off on a journey of collecting them here and there

And finally, we can choose a completely different, even somewhat antagonistic approach by taking the route of cost-averaging. Basically, we can continuously add up to a losing position but since this can be seen as an extension of the first approach, instead of making our position better, we may actually end up with a worse one (like when we started to average down from the ATH of 20k)

As you can see, not a single one of these three possible ways of trading in a downtrend market can guarantee anything
2297  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to control your emotions while trading?‍ on: October 20, 2019, 08:29:59 AM
Hmm might be but we also can understand the market movement from our own feelings if we are in control of it.We have to just act to the opposite of what we are doing that is how whale move the market,having stop loss can save us from great losses but we still have to active to be in profits that is what a trader supposed to do

It has been tried out already, and no, it doesn't appear to work. For example, you are inevitably losing in the long run, so you set up a system which automatically changes your orders into their opposites without you even being aware of it (or someone else sets it up for you to try out this approach). So when you buy something, the system sells it, and vice versa (let's assume you can both sell and buy)

Does it mean you will stop losing?
2298  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank: If The Entire System Collapses, Gold Will Be Needed To Start Over on: October 20, 2019, 07:31:29 AM
I'm no economist but if the system does collapse, then it is very likely that countries would go back to the gold standard, which was the system before the Americans managed to muscle their way. And it'll likely stay that way until a different currency becomes the reserve

Most countries went off gold standard during WWI (or soon thereafter)

While the Americans forced their way only in 1944 (with the establishment of the Bretton Woods monetary system). Although countries can return to gold for international settlements of payments, it is not very likely that we will be back to the proper gold standard when you could freely and fully exchange (redeem) whatever piece of paper is called money for real gold. It seems we are irrevocably past that point already
2299  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank: If The Entire System Collapses, Gold Will Be Needed To Start Over on: October 19, 2019, 03:42:26 PM
What should we think of a world where central banks behave like doomsday preppers, accumulating and hoarding gold as if in anticipation of global economic crash?

I would say that this world came undone

Gold is mostly meaningless on its own (apart from its industrial use and value, of course). It is the economy, its strength and power, which matter in the long run, not some precious metal. The Soviets had enough gold (yet more crude oil), and it allowed them to last longer (for example, they started to buy wheat from Canada in the early 1970's in exchange for physical gold) but since their economic model was massively flawed (essentially suicidal), it was only a matter of time until they finally kicked the bucket
2300  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game $1,000 Daily Race7-day streak bonus on: October 19, 2019, 02:28:00 PM

It seems that the Wolf.bet site has become bigger and bigger significantly over the last few weeks. The growth of Wolf.bet site has been shown not only through total active gamblers on the site, but also reflected through the amount of bitcoin used to wagger among top users. Those figures both have increased very fastly recent weeks, and in my opinion, they are very solid evidence for the growth of Wolf.bet.
Well, it always takes time, there are places like stake where they have 1000 users online all the time (a bit less, a bit more) but those places have existed for over 6 years now (stake is 2-3 years old but primedice the main company is over 6 years old) so I think wolf.bet is achieving something quite decent compared to the time it has been around. Not that we can't get any higher, of course there are a long ways to go and we will reach to first 200+ then eventually 500+ and 1000+ and we will not be contempt with having just this many people

This number is far from consistent yet

Right now it is at 31 and I've seen it widely, or rather wildly, oscillating between that and the ATH of around 170 users. I don't know what accounts for this behavior, but consistency in the number of players seems to be of a higher priority to me. Really, if we see over 1000 players momentarily but they roll a few times or don't roll at all and then leave, what real difference would that make?

On the other hand, the longer the site remains in the game (pardon the pun), the more credibility and trust it will gain. And all this will correlate with and translate into the number of active players. So, basically, it is just a matter of staying afloat long enough while adding new features as required. One such blockbuster option would be to open the casino bankroll for outside investments. How many casinos are offering that opportunity nowadays?
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