NEM will overtake NXT because: 1. better distribution 2. user friendly wallet (it can't be worse than a NXT wallet  ) 3. NEM source code will be secret for year or 2NXT is very good coin but NEM have potential to be No.2 cryptocoin Who said that ? |
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NTXL Acc: 17287115425554822472
#46 in the investors list.
Thank you !
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just signed up for the cryptex btc card! hope nem does something like that!  It was already brought up on trello today If anyone is a legal pro that knows his way around the regulations regarding crypto <-> fiat plz get in touch !!!Patmast3r, I was listening to an episode of Let's Talk Bitcoin today which mentioned CoDA (Consortium of Decentralized Applications) which is made up of Mastercoin, Etherium, Colored Coins to provide a legal framework. Are you aware of the consortium and is NEM considering joining? Details here - http://www.coda.co/KC Thanks for posting this ! |
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A NEM stakeholder to sell, pm with a offer.
So you're selling a stakeholder ? |
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just signed up for the cryptex btc card! hope nem does something like that! It was already brought up on trello today If anyone is a legal pro that knows his way around the regulations regarding crypto <-> fiat plz get in touch !!! |
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We` re not really making any progress here.
+1 Posts like this just go to show how messed up the crypto community already is. Sorry but that's really how it looks to me. With all the clones and forkes popping up that are not much more than copy, paste, edit a bit and publish peole just don't realize anymore how much work it is to write something FROM SCRATCH. If your not pleased with they way things are going you can get a refund soon and get back to your clones that are finished in a week or two. That's where the real innovation happens anyway. What's more innovative than changing the number of coins, block times, and difficulty retarget times right ? Have a nice day though |
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Built-in auction and crowdfunding - is it planned ?
Crowdfunding can work for NEM Evolution, developers will get money for their work, so they will be interested in it seriously. +Always looking forward, and will not die like other alt-coins.
a NEM crowdfunding platform is planned and actually already set-up (in an initial version) |
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Seriously, why are we not going to launch with an app? If the reason is that it can't be done then I can understand. But I would love to hear why it would be a good idea to launch without one? I don't think the argument that we won't fail if we launch without one is good enough. Seriously, when NEM launches it should be READY for non-crypto users. READY for non-technical users. No one has said to rush this. Is it NOT possible to have one ready when we lauch? Is taking into account security of the app too much to have it ready? If that is the reason fine. I can understand. But I can't see the reasoning beyond that. Let's have this discussion. Maybe I am off base here, but I worry that some of us are so tech savvy that we have a hard time knowing the importance of making things simple for non-technical users. Like we just can't realize how others don't get things that are so easy for us tech guys to understand. So we don't place enough importance on it. IMO, an app would set us apart, and at the same time, allow new people to easily adopt NEM. If you agree, say something. I am new to cryptos, and this is one thing from a long list I plan to bring up to help NEM break the crypto mold.
I have to agree, even though I dont know how will we reach those non tech people immediatly after launch, I think it will be boiling here in crypto community for some time, until we are ready to push it more to mainstream. Talking mainstream are there any plans on how to push NEM further, behind the walls of current crypto scene here on BTT? Seriously, you hit the nail right on the head. What are we going to do to spread NEM beyond the crypto community? This is a VERY big question. I am new to cryptos. I think I am seeing things differently than others here. What I am picking up in general is the "can't see the forest through the trees" situation. Let me be clear. NEM is much farther than other coins in the sense that it is breaking the mold in many ways already. Utopian has a lot on his plate. He has been very successful in creating a coin that has the POTENTIAL to break out of the crypto circle. I have breifly gone over the trello board as well. There are many interesting ideas there. Good ones. There is just so much to do. What I see as a challenge is a few things. Theres is so much work to do when it comes to development in the first place. This is understandably taking up much of the focus. Also, I think the larger issue is, probably not Utopian, but many can't see it in their mind. They have seen EVERY coin they have been involved with talk about this I would imagine, and fail. They are just focused on making this a success here. In the back of their mind, I just think pushing for a coin to be adopted by the public is something so big that it is a waste of time. At the very least, something we should worry about LATER. This is the first thing. The time to start to take this to the general public is now. It will take us weeks to indentify things such as: What does our Marketing Sales Funnel look like. What does the "buying cycle" look like? Who are our different target audiences? Who is in charge of our newsletter? The list goes on. We should have already hired a search engine optimization firm to optimize our website and begin the campaign. We should have our army of stakeholders writing articles on different subjects related to cryptos and NEM. Seriously, what we have to figure out is this: What is our message? How are we going to spread this message? How do we track the success of the that message being spread effectively? Who are we targeting with our message? These are just the basics, and I'm leaving things out. The major point is we have to believe that it is possible. ANY coin that hired a professional marketing company, I mean a good one, could overtake Bitcoin easily. The main challenge I believe is the decentralized nature of cryptos. This is why this hasn't happened yet. But it will. Utopian looks like a capable leader. NEM is lucky. This is VERY hard to find. We need to find a good marketing company to take this mainstream. If not, I can help but as with everyone my time is limited. We CAN do this together. However, I would suggest that we leave it to pros if we really want NEM to reach its goals. But either way, we need to start now. And of course, once we have a "buyer", it should be a simple as downloading an app. The first step is to beleive!!! Really believe!!! I'm goignt to try to address all of this but since your text is quite long I might miss a few things. Also note that this is my personal opinion and it doesn't necessarily reflect what UP or anyone else thinks. First off it bothers me that you think launching with an app means launching ready for non-crypto users. That's complete nonsense in my opinoin (sry for being so blunt here). What a new currency needs for mass adoption besides value is utility. If people can't use NEM they aren't going to give a rats as about an app and that goes for goes for crypto and non-crypto people. Btw. what exactly do you think this app should do ? So our number one goal imho has to be getting merchants and exchanges to accept NEM. Of course we'll also try to step up in that regard ourselfs as a community. Launching services and stuff. Now you have also outlined in your write up - and I agree - marketing is important and something that every stakeholder should engage in. BUT not right now. The specs of NEM aren't final, our website is not ready in fact nothing is 100% finished. The whole project is still at a very early stage. If you start a huge marketing campaing now all the people will see is unfinished stuff and nothing to do with it as off now. More than one person has heard of NEM, came to this thread and whas dissapointed to see nothing but debates about sockpuppets and what not. Personally I'd like to attract people when we're ready for them. A good example are a couple of the signatures that you find among NEMsters. Many still have POS there which isn't true anymore. We'll privde a factsheet about NEM that everyone can use to market NEM. There'll also be a NEM vs NXT chart that will outline the differences. We can't have people writing inaccurate articles on something that isn't even finished. To sum things up... I really appreciate how motivated you seem to be and I don't even disagree 100% I just think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselfs. And to answer you question: If we don't launch with an app it will be because there's plenty of other stuff that needs to be done before we even need an app (like I said what should this app even to right now?). |
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I know I am a little late to reply here, but I want to go back and clear what I was saying about NEM needing a mobile platform. I really do believe mobile will be the future of computers and finance. I think it will be the "primary" device of the normal person, but not the only one. For sure desktops and notebooks and servers and supercomputers will of course still exist. After reading more about M-Pesa for a different post, I think that this helps to prove the point. Here is the chart of M-Pesa verses bitcoin. Both are digital platforms for transferring money.  This chart clearly shows what it means to be adapted. M-Pesa is winning, bitcoin simply isn't. At this rate, who knows how long before bitcoin "goes to the moon". Bitcoin just isn't cutting it, and I am guessing won't ever get the job done. It is too slow and too difficult to use. M-Pesa is as simple as sending a text. Banking on the go. I would really love to see NEM be as easy as M-Pesa at transferring money. That is part of the reason why I am willing to give part of my stake as a bounty for a mobile app developer. I believe in it that much. I think the most important thing in NEM's long term future is getting businesses to accept it and people to spend it. If the community agrees that is important, it seems like some things need to be met first. Excellent and easy to use clients, an exchange of fiat to NEM, and trust in NEM. I am not sure but it seems like M-Pesa was originally or still is backed by mobile prepaid airtime minutes. So the minutes acted as a gold standard for the M-Pesa units. People knew that at anytime they could just use the M-Pesa on their phones to buy airtime if they weren't going to spend it elsewhere. Those rates were locked in. Right now bitcoin is backed by USD or RMB or EUR, but it doesn't have to be limited to that. And unfortunately (or fortunately) bitcoin isn't locked in into anything and that makes investors weary. This is why having an exchange is soooooo important at the start. (something like a Bitpay/Coinbase combo) Anyway, I think I am rambling now. Just some thoughts to think on. There's no doubt then NEM will need a mobile platform at some point i just think we're not there yet and right now we need to focus on geting NEM to that point. |
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hi guys.
i have an account with 99designs, along with a couple of other services like that.
But there have been many preliminary submissions from interested parties in here, that should not be dismissed.
There was a logo contest announced and stakes have been reserved for the winners, has this changed?
Apart from that, in these forums there are many talented members.
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Also, i dont want to be much of a pain, but it should not need pointing out that there should be one submission per member in the contest.
There are already many people with lots of submissions, they should have a chance to choose themselves one
to submit in a competition for the rest to choose from.
Multiple members are making multiple versions, we should not allow one to enter with more than one submission.
All the submission that have been made, were taken into account. For now we're eliminated those that we think weren't good enough. We've also elimintage some that infringed copyrights. Imho everyone should be allowed to submit as many logos as they want. I personaly don't care if someone submits 20 logos if they're all awesome. In the end we want to have a nice professional representative logo and I couldn't care less if it comes from someone that tried 100 times or from someone that only submited one. |
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anyone knows, how the logo committee is doing?
We have narrowed the list down to only a couple. Right now there's a discussion if we should have contest on 99design.com or not. What are the reasons holding you back from using 99design? It'd be nice to have the extra choice, surely? The question is do we really need it. |
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anyone knows, how the logo committee is doing?
We have narrowed the list down to only a couple. Right now there's a discussion if we should have contest on 99design.com or not. |
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I'm impressed! This threat is full of interesting discussion and good spirit!
Our main strength: this community!!!
I've followed a few coins some as a miner, some as an investor, but NEM certainly appears to be different. UP has put together a strong team and has created a strong vision, allowing people to get behind the movement. The number and diversity of stakeholders and the way it has been done is very open and impressive. Finally the open audit and handling of complaints, queries, ideas has been very warm and professional. KC Yes, these I have felt. From this thing, I think NEM has huge development potential in the market will occupy a large proportion I recently read a very interesting post about somebody who spent sometime to study and analyse NXT. One interesting conclusion was that there were just under 1000 core NXT users. As very impressive as NXT is for its new tech, and it is very impressive (or will be when all those promises are delivered on). The community as a whole isn't backing it. The story behind NEM, has a lot more marketing strength. NEM on day one will already have a much larger user base than NXT and can quite possibly explode from there. NEM is literally the first time ever something like this has been done in the crypto cummunity. EVERY previous coin was dominated by large investors or early powerful miners. This may or may not be good for NEM, we will have to wait and see, but I am willing to try hard and see because I believe it is a better way. Bitcoin's story is "an experiment that turned out quite interesting and as time went on went from being a fluke to the real deal." NXT's story is "A guy made a really good code and 70 lucky friends and community members got in on it" (this isn't exactly true, but it will always be told like that). NEM has a chance to rewrite its own narrative. A group of thousands of people came together to create a new and better to deal with money, not just for themselves, but for everyone in the world. I think there are not more of 300 NEM Users... the rest are sockpuppets! donīt make u unserious .... i do not like that everyone means there are thousands of NEM Stakeholers and all the people know it! The stakeholder's list has 1,090 Bitcoin talk veteran accounts, how can you speculate that there are no more than 300 Nem stakeholders? Then you have to consider that many of those veterans also tried to get other people that they know to join Nem, seeing it as a big opportunity, also consider this crypto guy with a large twitter following who mentioned the fund raising in his twitter account as well as those who mentioned it in Reddit and other major social media, and the people who browse the site but don't comment, but joined to get a stake. Then you also have to consider the I think 200+ open slots, and the 20 page waiting list that's still growing, with the rules being much stricter and Utopianfuture focusing only on people who can significantly contribute to Nem. 300 stake holder just doesn't make sense, unless it's wishful thinking on your part. 300 is total bs. If someone wants to mock NEM for not being fair at least use som realistic numbers that don't make you look like a total moron that just talks without doing any research. kthxbey. |
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jabo38: there was Nxt, that was released with a crappy client and no features and no marketing, so it allowed a fair distribution in first weeks. Thousandts of people were buying Nxt for 100-400 Satoshi before people realized how cool this is and a price went up once there was a hyped coin by marketing, they called it Maxcoin: http://coinmarketcap.com/max_90.htmlyou should also study Coin2, it had 1000 stakeholders: http://coinmarketcap.com/c2_30.htmlso Coin2 is already more fair than NEM - because everyone got it for freeCoin2 is a fork of LTC. I can't see anything new in it though so it's more like a clone. It doesn't suprise me that people got their coins for free. I wouldn't want to pay for another clone. |
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any updated news about nem?
So far known fact is that client is planned on April. An alpha is planned for the end of April. |
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developers. how will you correct the error, which announced c-f-b?
He hasn't actually announced an error. From the little that is publicly known about POI so far he has raised the concern that POI may be vulnderable to two well known attacks. POI is still under development and there was no whitepaper released so far. CfB is a well known and respected NXTer but in this case he's just speculating. Makoto is putting a lot of effort into finding the right balance and is running simulations of attacks. He's doing a great job and I'm not worried at all. Once the algo is finalized and the whitepaper is realeased then people can come and say there are issues. In fact then it is encouraged and appreciated if other skilled people that a look at it. Before that it's useless speculation. |
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Guys we really need to get this coin and the DEX functioning fast. Counterparty online wallet is launched tomorrow with a fully functional DEX and the longer we leave it the greater their first leader advantage is going to be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.6980 Counterparty will be drinking champagne on their insane 500% + profits tomorrow and laughing at us for how slow we are  Counterparty uses the bitcoin blockchain right ? Sounds to me like it's doomed from the start unless people really never realize that there better things out there than bitcoin. |
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UP and the NEM community,
So can we have at least a basic app for the main 3 at launch?
This would be gigantic!! Just basic features for the apps
Im thinking, someone runs into an article on NEM on the internet. And at the end of the article it says, "want to get involved in the New Economy Movement? Download the NEM app now! It comes with one free Nakamoto, the New Economy Movement crypto currency"!
Even articles on crypto in general, I think this would be something that writers would bring up.
Also, investors would see more valule in the Nakamoto, thus making our Nakamotos that were set aside to promote the movement worth more, giving us stronger resources to work with!!
Mass adoption would be at our doorstep
I'm pretty sure having an app at launch is not going to be the deciding factor between mass adoption and rock bottom. Why would an investor see more value in a currency just because there's an app for it ? Don't get me wrong, I think we need to have an app at some point to make it possible for users to use our currency anywhere anytime but it needs to be thought through very well so I wouldn't rush it just to have it at launch. |
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I see Ripple more as a bank than altcoin, which is not a bad thing actually, centralization also establishes accountability. Unlike most people in this forum I like Ripple . NEM is also a bit centralized, UP as promoter and then the Dev team and then the participants and this is good for coordination complete decentralization would be anarchy. Ripple isn't centralized. Anyone can run a server. Afaik the whole thing is open source as well. |
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