The logic make sense, but the network hashrate is less than 100% up compared to july (and price fully 100% up). I expected something quite spectacular from ASICS.  |
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And where do you collect the people availability to sue him? Nobody asked me.
I am in Thailand and I do not want to pay all of the fees myself. I wanted to work with others on this but I am very willing to let someone else take the lead. I have a large collection of data to hand over. Thanks. I thought that you had already established some agreement with a few big lenders. So nobody wants to take the lead? The fees should be obviously shared proportionally. |
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they are very hopeful pirate will pay back. They still trust him and are scared of his threats. He clearly divided the people wanting to sue him. so we either wait, or have a much smaller group sue him. Pirate clearly won.
They whom? That 4 spineless suckers on irc? And where do you collect the people availability to sue him? Nobody asked me. Anyway legally speaking it should not make lots of difference if a few or many sue him (apart from the slice of legal fees). I am readying another load of popcorn for when we will know what the hell Pirate really did with the BTC from a tribunal (I don't expect much more, apart maybe his conviction, since I dont' think he would be still around if he had the BTC). |
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If pirate was serious about repaying, he would be buying back his own debt at 5% of its face value. He obviously isn't, so I will assume his statements are simply more delay tactics.
And if he still had the money or the BTC, he would be enjoying life abroad instead of keeping trolling and bullshitting on irc. |
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you should at the very least be concerned.
We were just looking for a sacrificial lamb (or at least a scape goat)  |
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my biggest worry is there is a security flaw in the protocol
I am much more worried about security protocols of the users  ... and that's why I think that it will remain forever a geek's money -and maybe it's better that way-. |
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The world dies a slow a death.
And then the system get reset and another cycle can begin, just like in FPS videogames when you get killed and re-born in the same place. You might as well re-born as a cow: there is no much difference with taxpayers in fact of getting milked. |
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I reckon Pirate has a load of cash and coin at his disposal maybe not the full amount owed but a lot and he just wants to keep it. If he puts all the coin in a brain wallet he could just declare bankruptcy.
Most of it has probably been converted to gold bullion and is in some storage locker(s) spread around the country rented under business names. At least, that's what I would do. Intead I expect that he lost most of the monies, probably in Zeek. He could have been scammed too (with all that stash he made a fat target). In that case I wonder why he just not tell us. |
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Il consenso generale e' per evitare del tutto paypal, anche perche' non e' detto che uno che ha ottimi feedback non decida di iniziare a scammare.
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Goat.. with you trying to sue the world for the people that scammed you, how do you devote enough time to even one scammer ?
mh, this is going to become a full-time job. |
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sure, if there's anything i can do to help that doesn't require thousands of dollars in lawyers fees or plane tickets, please let me know.
Nobody asked you to pay for anything (yet). Just please find the time to send a PM to Goat or anyone else who is organizing some action about Pirate just to see if you can help with any information or anything. Then please let us know about the progress. Thanks |
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my 'cut' was non-existent pirate money. i'm not sure how many more times i need to say that before people get it.
i wish i actually cashed out $1200 a week.
That's a reason for you to try to recover something from Pirate. |
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unfortunately no, i haven't been 'paid'. not with anything that can pay the mortgage anyway.
So you did your PPT for charity? So maybe we found a PPT operator who merits a scammer tag. |
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i have the right to get paid for my time.
those of you demanding i do something have never actually offered any kind of compensation, they just make demands of me like i'm some kind of charity.
go negotiate with pirate if you want to.
if you want me to do it on your behalf, make me an offer or STFU.
Don't you have already been paid with a cut of your pass through? Or that was a payment just for you to pass BTC to Pirate but not for getting them back? Anyway I offer 10% of my Bitcoinmax deposit if you find the way to get my BTC back -or 10% of whatever fraction of it you get. How about it? |
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Hi conspirosphere.tk,
I take this kind of accusation seriously.
Hi, in my view the point of accusations is to give a right of reply and defense to the accused, so that everyone can figure out their conclusions. That's why I reposted that message. I am not so math inclined to perform my indipendent analysis, but those number I posted seems to me far excessive, even taking in account costs and risk. But I could be wrong, so I encourage you to post your numbers to contradict them. P.S. I invested the most of my BTC in Gigamining and other mining bonds (most of which already lost about 70% of their value since I invested, and are following a declining slope in dividends), so my only motivation is to try to not be scammed too much. |
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There is a threshold beyond which high profits become a scam. It seems this apply to the following math: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1178669#msg1178669Can you give any explanation as to what your actual cut is in this, and why it seems you're taking a seemingly insane cut, barring there has been some major issues along the way you forgot to tell us?
I'm an running this bond to make money. I'm not sure where you got the idea that this was a charitable venture. Every bond sale thus far has netted 100% initial capital outlays. I would expect nothing less from the release of the Teramining bond otherwise there is no reason to do it. I'm not saying I think you're not running this for profit. I'm saying that with 1.5 free terahash by trading your 3 current minirig for half a free ASIC each, and if selling your GPU rig would fetch you for about an extra half the price of an ASIC rig (already paid by investors), you only need another 2 terahash (2 rigs equivalent) to fund the remaining of the TERAMINING hashing at 100 mhash per share. Or ~5500 BTC (2750 BTC / ASIC rig) You're asking for about 40000 x (0.30 - 0.40) = 12 000 to 16 000 BTC. A 54% to 65% cut for you. And the new 90% PPS proposed would take 10% more of what's left (about 4% - 5% more). 60 - 70% cut total.It just seems like the upgrade is actually charging us the full price of the ASICs + cut, completely ignoring the fact the FPGA rigs/GPU were paid for (40 000 BTC I believe?) by the investors on the initial IPO and can partially pay/be traded for the ASICs. Your cut is seemingly more than twice to quintuple the cut others take, hence why I'd like to know the actual numbers on your side and your actual cut. |
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Are you the same guy who was accusing "team ponzi" of not understanding "investment liquidity" and spreading "pirate FUD"?
Good find! Bravo! |
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Anyone can explain why Cognitive is at the bottom end of the lowest paying shares?
Anything can be done?
It seems that now many figured this out since there are no bids above 0.10 from a while, and my butt hurts since I did not dump my shares in time.
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