Ideally this would be a good requirement, but it will be a very controversial topic.


The forum has rules that are not official rules, for example selling accounts is allowed, but look how many get tagged for it. So I think if the forum decided we should not allow newbies and see a manager doing so, DT could tag said manager. Or they could say fuck off we aren't tagging anyone over bounty shit.



This is a rule that could be left up to each individual manager, but I would sway towards not allowing personally.

The admin isn't gonna step in and limit a manager and how many campaign he can do unless the manager is banned, but if DT was tagging managers for legit rule infractions( or unofficial infractions) then companies may look for a better reputed manager. Companies may also not care and go with the cheapest option available, trust be damned.

Agreed with newbies needing to participate in the community before coming here trying to earn a load.

Not a bad idea either, even if the users start trading merits between each other they would run out pretty quick.

I think meser# is right man. This would just make bounty hunters double the amount of cheating accounts they have in a campaign.



Let's be honest for a second. If you are a bounty hunter in 1 campaign and that campaign has Facebook, Twitter, Discord, Instagram, and telegram in it, you will spend a total of 5 minutes on that campaign in a week. It's not very time consuming to retweet or share a post on all these platforms, and if original content and hashtags needs to be added the users post some bullshit as their original comment and copy/paste the hashtags. This is why bounty hunters can join 1000 bounties a week per account. It's simple work.

I don't mind a newbie participating in conversations on the forum, which is what I believe theymos is referring to in your quoted post. I have an issue with a Newbies participating in bounties making money. 2 totally different things IMO.

I welcome Newbies to post and interact on the forum. We were all Newbies at some point.

I'd like to start a discussion on Bounty managers allowing Newbies to join in bounties. How does everyone feel about that? A good number of you really could care less, I know that, but those who care about the forum might care and join in on the discussion.

Let's start with I personally am guilty of allowing Newbies in bounties myself. It doesn't matter that I barely manage bounties, what matters is when I do, I have allowed Newbies. I kind of looked at it as they aren't hurting anyone and may live in poorer areas of the world. They need money too.

Then I see THIS TOPIC by lovemayfamilis and it really kind of pissed me off. Not because lovemayfamilis was catching cheaters, but because every single account out of 67 was a fucking Newbie. I hate to start a controversial topic that might take away a Newbies ability to earn money, but if a good number of you are going to cheat then fuck off.

We make it so easy for Newbies too because what's going to happen if they're caught? Not a damn thing! They get tagged and create a new account as if nothing has changed. On top of that, managers are kind of being dishonest too because we are allowing these accounts to join. Companies contact us and we give them an idea of the participation we might get them in a bounty campaign, but the numbers are way off since we are allowing these cheaters to join. Essentially, we are no better than the bounty cheaters because we are unknowingly lying. Well most are unknowingly lying. Others just down right don't give a damn long as they get paid.

So what's the solution? Here's my thoughts on Newbies and what can be done.

1. No more allowing Newbies in campaigns. Make newbies rank up and have something to lose if they're gonna cheat.
2. No neg trusted accounts can join period

Now, what about managers? Should we tag managers who are outright being dishonest by allowing Newbies? Or tag managers who really aren't caring about the forum? Should we just hope they will try to make a change? Or does anything really matter?

I don't know the answers, but I think together we can all make some good suggestions to try and slow these cheaters down. Maybe also change managers ways. Thoughts?




 

Ok, so good job on catching all these newbies I suppose but now what? You just tagged 67 newbie accounts and it will stop nothing. That just means that this user will now create 67 other newbie accounts and continue the cycle.

I am not getting on you @lovesmayfamilis, i'm just saying this stops nothing. Bounty managers are going to have to implement a rule of no newbies to start making a difference. Once jr member and above accounts get tagged it might slow them down. It also might not, but IMO tagging newbies doesn't do much.

@Bounty managers!!! You need to stop allowing newbies to join period! Also, no neg trusted accounts allowed. Yea your numbers will go down, but at least you are trying to make a difference. As are you lovemayfamilis, i'm not saying you're doing anything wrong here at all. I'm just saying it's a waste for any of us to chase newbie farms. If managers fall in line and use the no newbie rule, newbies become a little more irrelevant.


Agreed, very good job on the research and finding all these cheaters. Really not trying to make you feel like what you have done here is irrelevant. I'm on a rant about these cheaters and how can we combat them. Keep finding these morons and tagging them until we can devise a way to stop them.

Payments have been sent to everyone, see you all next week.

You cannot. Only the person who gave you the tag can remove it unless other DT members remove Jollygood from DT which will not happen without good reason. Giving you red trust is not a good enough reason. I'm sure he is getting notifications from this topic with his name being said so many times. If he is interested in giving you a chance he will respond, but don't get your hopes up.

The only way you will get the negative removed from your account is to message the users who gave you the negative. You can ask the DT users to remove those users from DT but that likely will not happen. It might be easier to take up your issue with Jollygood.

I'm still seeing twitch users streaming gambling content on Twitch.

You have some users like this guy https://www.twitch.tv/kyharr who just has a message up with a link to his dlive channel.

Then you have other users like https://www.twitch.tv/cryptopher83 who are streaming gamdom as we speak.

I don't feel like you have earned it yet. You barely post. Get more in touch with the forum and how it works vs trying to get out of newbie status quick and not learn anything in your journey. Merits and rank will come if you work for it.

There are many reasons users do not like KYC. Some users want to be anonymous to avoid things such as taxes. Some other reasons may include underage, gambling illegal in their area, or hacker using stolen funds.

I'm sure there are other legit reasons but none that I can think of.

I do want to make a point about gambling not available in certain areas though. I feel like it's our money, we should be able to use it however the fuck we want. Unfortunately, governents do not agree with that. They want their piece. I think if all sites were able to kyc their customers and send tax documents, then most countries would allow us to gamble.

A signature campaign is always users suggestions. Signature campaigns might help in the long term, but short term no. Companies need to have a budget for at least a month worth of advertising if doing a signature campaign, ideally much longer.

I don't think certain emojis(rockets) necessarily link all casinos together. It's major speculation but I think I disproved that in an earlier thread because both casinos operated by Lightlord use those emojis IIRC.

The Lakers really need to work on getting a trade for Westbrook and bring in a sharp shooter. Right now it seems that Lebron is just trying to keep his 20+ points per game streak alive, other then that nothing exciting in LA.

Ill quote it for you.

This is great news. Let's hope this is the last time Betnomi has any delays in withdrawals.

The OP made 1 post from a brand new account and logged out. Maybe they are very busy? Who knows, but it doesn't look like they really came here to show off their casino but more to see if making 1 post got them some traffic.

Hopefully everyone is doing their due diligence before making a deposit.

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Being as he could not wait for his ban appeal to be answered 1 way or the other, my guess is he is still using the forum under an alias not yet found out. In time someone will get bored and scrape the forum and maybe link him to another accounts.

Roobet has a few streamers left on twitch( idk if they're transitioning to dlive with stake and gamdom) but not nearly as many as the other 2 sites I just mentioned. I still get emails promoting their roobet parties on stream seems like every 2-3 weeks. I also notice they're still running their signature campaign and most recently launched another art contest.

As far as growth idk but they're not dead yet.

It's good to see the new management might be able to work something out with you but make sure that if they stipulate that you must remove any negative press about them that you let them know you will only edit your comments if they make whole on your accusation.

I am 100% in agreement here. 10000000000000% of the users that have been banned for offenses like plagiarism or spamming or whatever just accept the fact that that account is banned and either make a new account, already had an alt account they use, or would look to buy an account. Being banned on this forum doesn't really do anything but cost you the account that is banned.

I do agree that we need to get rid of ban appeals period. There may be a special case that pops up (unsure what that would be at this time), but for the most part just eliminate them altogether. If someone is doing something that gets them a permaban, do we really want them coming back? Haven't you ever heard a leopard cannot change his spots? The naim027 appeal was the last straw IMO. He made the forum look foolish and he had higher ups(at least 1) protect his secret.

If anything we need stronger bans. IP bans would help but ultimately is not the solution. The goal wouldn't be to turn people away from bitcoin or the forum, but to teach the shitheads of the world that we don't want or need their type. We all know the world isn't perfect and some users circumstances are much much worse than others, but you ultimately make the conscious choice on whether to be a shithead or not. Choose not to be that shithead.