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2281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: February 14, 2017, 03:35:38 PM
The worst thing that could happen in gambling is when we cannot control ourselves anymore and we became slave on it because of our addiction. If we let that happen we will really gonna be in that situation especially if we are gambling on a daily basis. When we lose, it is fine as it is part of the game but when we beat what we cannot afford anymore then I am sure bigger problem will come to you, there is a consequences on that.

There is always consequences to everything and people should not avoid taking risk. It is part of the life and people just have to endure it, either you take the route which is risky or the route that has less risk. It is a choice that everyone should make , in the end everything gonna ruin yourself if it can be controlled
People do gamble for the thrill of achieving the impossible and if you are really lucky you might be able to win big and that is the main reason people do come back to gamble even though they are in a losing streak.It is like taking a lottery you might not win every time but if you are lucky you might win big.
but you know most of the times they just lost everything because of addiction.

they are indeed gamble for having fun at first, don't care if they lost as they are looking for an entertainment but if you do it continuously then everything will change, you are going crazy to not win and keep chasing till you gambe everything.
- Rate can win big in gambling is too low, I think that all of us are lost in a long time. gambling addiction very easily happen to us, even when we play the first time. However, I think we all have to take responsibility for our actions, we should not blame the gambling. Gambling is not the problem, the problem is we gamble
2282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 12, 2017, 03:07:48 PM

There will be no meaning in trying with ineffective methods. Quitting gambling is not an easy task so we need extra care and dedicated ways of practising some new habits to get rid the gambling activities.

From my own experience, I was an intensive gambler some two years back after that I started to reduce my gambling hours and now I am finding some control in my gambling activities. So, it is possible, only if we we are dedicated to.



The best way to quit gambling to me, is just to find other creative avenues to make money or for those who claim they are into gambling for fun, they should look for more other productive ways to catch fun that will not involve losing money. And another thing is that, one cannot even stop at once anyone thinking that is possible, is probably joking as the best way is to take it gradually and in no distant time, one drops the attitude.
Seeking some other kind of activities that makes money I think trading. Because for me trading is better than gambling, as long as you know how to run it and you know how it works.

Finding alternatives or other activities that would pre-occupy your time is a good suggestion to stop gambling. It would take your mind of the thought of gambling, just remember to always be preoccupied with other things. Also when you have the urge to gamble, talk to someone you love. That always helps. They can help you stop gambling too.
I agree, or we can find some other things that makes us entertain and make profit. Why not run your own business online so you can entertain yourself while you are at home and at the same time you have an extra income. It is better to get addicted to have a business than to waste money in gambling.
yes starting a business either online or offline make a person busy and in running that business that person do not feel any boredom when he find the business running successfully while if a person will face issues in business then he will find any other place for getting entertainment and then there will be the chances when he will come back to gambling.
- Creating busy is the best way for us to forget about gambling. Trading is a suitable choice because it has a lot of similarities with gambling. And when the busy becoming a habit, gambling will disappear from our lives. This is a great way if you are interested and liked trading. We just try, to stop gambling will not be a problem
2283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 12, 2017, 02:43:03 PM
No, I do not feel shameful, I even at the inverse feel a bit proud of this, in the sense that I am quite talented and manage to get some little profits.

During my gambling days, I also feel lucky, and most of the time I am winning, that is why I am not ashamed to tell it to my wife... But later on I lose one time and I realized that I shouldn't have proudly told it to my wife that I am winning in gambling, as she is always expecting a win from me since that time... Then I quit...  Smiley

You feel proud and tell everything to your wife when you get luck, when you often win the game. It was very normal, because you definitely want to make your wife happy, and you know he would have been happy when you win. But when you lose a fortune, you were embarrassed, it was also normal. In essence, gambling can become a proud and embarrassing, depending on the situation.

Whether I lose or win from my gambling actions, for sure I won't tell it to my wife. She will not proud even if I win a huge amount of money. I have to lie to her, everytime I give her some money beside my monthly salary. I told her that I got the extra money from trading and she trusts me and doesn't make any further question.
Therefore you should not break that trust, you can in gambling for fun only and focus more on trading as obviously it can give you a good return than in gambling. For me, I believe my wife deserves to know what I am doing, for the reason that I do need her advise from time to time.
- We do not need to feel ashamed, but also should not feel proud. You will be proud if you lie to your wife and you will be proud if you lie to your child, you will be proud because you are gambling, the answer is no. If you gamble with good purpose, you will not feel ashamed and if you gamble with bad intentions, you should feel ashamed. Depending on the purpose of each one, but I advise you not to lie to the family, because they are the people you love and reliable
2284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 12, 2017, 02:14:03 PM
for me gambling becomes a sickness if only you know that you are losing and you still continue to gamble. playing even if you know that you will just lose is a sickness and not a self confidence. you may say it self confidence but if you always lose it will be a sickness even if you know that you are always losing you still continue.

No one continues gambling for just losing more, it is just they want to recover their losses but they don't realize that they are going deeper in that well, and at the time when they come to know that they are drowning, there is no time to react and they find themselves dead (out of funds). After that, everyone says we wont gamble again but after a few days they start again because they are addicted.
- Yes, right from the start gambling, they can not go back. Gambling is a serious disease, it can makes many people bankrupt and gets mad if we continue to playing. I have seen so many cases of gamblers become addicted, they are crazy and do everything to get money to gamble. Gambling is really a disease of the world
2285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 12, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
I don't see any reason for calling gambling bad and trying to quit it.
If you have control over yourself and have a goal before gambling and you are following it then why do you want to quit gambling.
If you invest money and end up losing it's fine it's a part of game then why do gamblers invest again to cover their loses when one should be aware that in gambling we should only invest the amount we can afford to lose. I don't see any reason o for quitting gambling unless one doesn't have control over themselves.

gambling could be the thing that was fine as long as we can control ourselves. Controlling how much money should we spend on gambling, control when we have to gamble, to control when we have to stop. We also have to save some of the money we get for our use on more useful things. As long as we can do that, gambling is a good thing. But if we can not do all these things, then gambling is not a good thing for us.
- Gambling not bad but it makes us become bad and greedy. Control is not easy, a lot of people talking about this subject and how to do it, but only some can succeed. Nobody certainly can control themselves and that we should stop gambling before something terrible happens. Giving up gambling based on our effort, nobody can help us
2286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: February 12, 2017, 01:51:36 PM
I have no special strategy in gambling, I only play gambling when feeling my very comfortable, when gambling thoughts should focus, and concentration. During this time I was able to get a lot of victories.
Well, it is good for you that you have an instinct that you can win in a gambling when you feel it. But sometimes I don't think that all we felt are accurate. Gambling is very risky so we should always be careful and accept what will possibly happen in the end.

I agree, gambe with your heart's content. If you do it for profit then learn also to accept if you lose. Don't blame anyone if you lose. Whatever will be the consequence in the future be ready for it. Gambling is really a risky game. It can ruin your life if you don't control well your discipline from it.
- We do not need special strategy, because strategy is ineffective. We should play according to our feelings, gambling always risky because it is based on our money to survive. If too greedy or impatient, you will easily lose everything. Risk is always have but be limited to the lowest risk and gamble a smart way
2287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the most popular bitcoin gambling games? on: February 11, 2017, 03:45:13 PM


 I know Dice is by a huge margin the most played bitcoin gambling game. What do you think are the others that is played in bitcoin community a lot?

 I think plinko could be the second biggest one. Maybe it could be slots too, there are many slots games out there but I am not sure if they are played that much.

Dice is the most popular for bitcoin gambling games, because I see mostly bitcoin gambling site offer a dice games into their games list. I think it's because easy game, plus mostly supported with faucet which allow gamblers to bet without deposit.

The second one I think slots game, the games works is almost same as dice, it's easy.

But I prefer to sports game, because I like to soccer and watch the match, also I follow the trends too. The result for the match is not pure luck, this is what I like too.
I don’t see why people are so into dice gambling I mean it has less chances and it is really risky to do.
I personally prefer football matches and I find them they depend on observation and research rather than putting it all on luck like rolling a dice or playing poker, in those ones you can’t really intervene like sports.
Yeah, it seems like some people are looking for the easiest way, but they do not do a good study of risks. I think sports betting has the advantage of allowing better analysis, based on good fundamentals, and this is something that makes a big difference in results.
Games that are needed by some analysis do really have an advantage regarding on winning chance just like sports betting but some people are lazy enough don't have interest on this infact they just want to play the easiest ones and the fastest ones like playing on dice which it doesn't need any hassle on research on things.
- Right, the analysis helps us to gamble a smart way, and analysis in sports gambling to help increase the chances of victory. But because greed and impatience, many people choose dice game for the purpose of making money quickly
- Dice game simple, easy to play and quick know the results, many people can rely on strategies to make money but they do not realize it is also easy to make them bankrupt
2288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 11, 2017, 02:24:32 PM
Trading can be considered as a gambling actions. It depends on a person who does the trading itself. If people did trading based on their feeling only and gain only small amount of informations regarding to the price fluctuations, in fact, they did gambling rather than trading.

Certainly, trading without proper knowledge is too risky and can be considered as gambling already. Market moves from time to time, and all you can do is to guess the next price. Observation on price movement and bids could give you an advantage in trading, but still, it is still risky, pumps and dumps are unpredictable.  Smiley
There is no success without knowledge because knowledge is power, what you can get by trading with lack of knowledge is a temporary success, but we do not want that right? A trader wants to earn consistently in trading as it can be considered as his job that makes trading as a source of income.

Methods and technique can be learn, we should seek for it and don't get discourage every time you fail.

Nice words of encouragement, trading really needs to have sills and experience it requires some ideas and techniques on how to have a good transactions. While gambling is for depending on lucks only though requires sometimes skills too.
Well, gambling is not really require skill to win it, because the game is focused on the greatest luck. well, you just have to experience for gambling. but, trading requires skill and experience, in order to survive the rigors of the current price fluctuations.
- I think in some type of gambling, we need certain skills such as sports gambling and poker. Experience and skills are needed in the trading and gambling, because it helps us to limit risks and increase winning percentage. Luck is always necessary factor in anything, so we do not need to mention it
- Gambling and trading have the similarities, but gambling is dependent luck and skill is only one part, trading is dependent on skill and luck is only part. So I think trading can be considered as gambling, but it's not quite is gambling
2289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 11, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
because gambling has a very strong appeal. we get an addicted from the first play. besides gambling can also generate a lot of money with very little capital. that's what makes people very interested, especially those who are in financial difficulty. they will try to seek their fortune from gambling games.
- Right, because gambling bring hope to many people, there are those who dream to get rich from gambling, but they do not realize they have fallen into a trap. They do not accept losing and they continue to play with the hope to recover loss and then they fall into the path of gambling addiction. Make money from gambling is a stupid idea but greed has made them believe in it
2290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 10, 2017, 08:07:04 AM
some of us get this experience that we will lose when play gambling in the long run, but i don't know why? honestly i have got this experience too maybe its because of our greed in the short run i get some profits although its small but in the long run i play with some strategy still get losses
Not everyone experience this kind of looses in the long run some of them are enjoying the game and enjoying the money they get from the gambling yes i already experience this kind of winning in the long run but suddenly when im get tired playing trying to all in and then lose them in one shot. I blame my self not to withdraw it by i enjoy playing on gambling.
It's called greedy, people will make long run win, but they don't know what the right time to stop play and withdraw their winnings is. That is why this long run will always lose for everyone. You expected more profit and made all in and end up with the loss. Don't get excited when you are in the long run win. It will make you lose in next bets.
in fact gambling also need some strategy and planning, if a person is playing gambling without any strategy and planning then surely their chance of losing money is more that those people who are playing gambling with a planning and strategy, and they strickly follow their strategy and planning. for example i have limit for playing gambling and i reach to that pint i stop gambling any more although it is very difficult to control myself some time bu still i try best and which protect me from such  big lost.
- Yes, we need to set limits while gambling. It helps us reduce the risk of bankruptcy and created for us a good habit while playing
- Time is a factor that also affects our mood, we often impatient and uncomfortable after playing for a long time, and then we will bet big and the result is that we lose all. Because we are too greedy and not satisfied with the money win. We need to learn to manage emotions, and relax, rest, eat when tired, that would be very good for us
2291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 10, 2017, 07:25:12 AM

most of the gambler have the same problem they even know that gambling is not giving them any profit, but still they are not ready to accept the reality and they continue gambling and giving justification to himself that for next time may be they become luck and  they play well and me they make more money. but in fact for every time they become failed.

They are already addicted even when they are only playing with what they can afford. Just like myself, I spend few dollar a day sometimes even less than a dollar just to gamble. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose and it doesnt matter because it is what I can afford however that just means Im addicted to it

Well that just means that your level of addiction is still at a neglectable point. If you can control not going beyond a few dollars, then that means that you're can still manage yourself. Though i think there are a lot of people or gambling addicts that are not like you. A loy of addicts spend away every cent they possibly can just so they can continue gambling and mist of the time they do this indly without analyzing the possible consequences
If you could determine where you are at your current state, if you are an addict already or just a person who wants to have fun, then you are safe. If you can bet big, that's good just make sure you bet what you can afford to lose, that's a great way to win because you will win big given the circumstance. There are many consequences when you become addicted, you will know once you are there.
- I think the important issue is that we need control when gambling. Addiction is not important because when we control well, it will not affect us. We have to know when we need to stop and when we need to play continue, many people because greed, they exceed the level necessary while gambling, then they lost it all and they became distraught gambling. That's stupid
- However, we need to know we will never be rich from gambling if we are players. The owners of casinos will not accept the loss, so we are very difficult to make money from gambling
2292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 10, 2017, 06:42:13 AM
Well, I think in playing dice those people would think and do some calculations, but I think it is not a strategy, because basically all depends on your luck, and whatever you do, you will not be able to do any strategy, because you can only view it
I disagree a bit with you here, some strategies like martingale and others actually are very good if someone is happy to accept small profits everyday. I mean yes if you want to double your money, maybe martingale is worst but for a 20-30 % profit, I think best is martingale.
though in a longer run no matter how much you play per day you will always lose those money, i would definitely not take the risks to make only small profit
Yeah I completely agree because basically some people give theories like if we generate small profits daily and then stop after a certain amount then we can win in long term while in reality such strategy delay your loss. Its like user is expected to loose after around 10000 bets and rather than making all 10k bets in a single day he makes 500 each day.
no you're wrong , for me it's not considered as delay the loss. but more to managing your bankroll to survive in the long run, even though i know that bankroll management in a game like dice to make profit for long time are in doubt , but at least you have trying.

LOL. he has a point out there, because at the end of the long run, the chance of encountering the long loss streak has a high chance due to the long duration of the gameplay, but actually controlling bankroll per day might survive if the player have self control, just like he will stop playing once he lose his principal money and come back the day after. there are many possibility on gambling, so there is no right or wrong strategy on it.
- In dice game, strategy is worthless, I see a lot of people often share strategies but all is useless, you can win one day or two day, but then you still lose all the money. Dice game too dependent on luck
- I do not deny some strategies that can help you win, but it never lasts forever. We need is a stable strategy, but in the dice game, I did not find the so-called stable. Strategy really is not consistent with dice game

Dice game is an example of a game that relies purely on luck. No strategy, just luck. As you've said, the strategy only works on a few occasions only, or in other words the same as luck. When the strategy was more often do not work than work, meaning it still depends on luck. There is still no strategy that can really make you win at dice game in the long run.
I have seen many people who can multiply their Bitcoin into 10x after playing for a while with dice. I can not understand how they can do that. And they keep repeating their job over and over and they have a good income every month. Although sometimes they might get lost, the money is still enough for them to buy necessary things.
- I do not know but I think they are professional gamblers, and they watch the dice game is a job to make money, they know how to limit the risks and set limits losses. They earn a living based on gambling and they can also lose everything because gambling. They was born just to gamble
2293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 09, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
Well, I think in playing dice those people would think and do some calculations, but I think it is not a strategy, because basically all depends on your luck, and whatever you do, you will not be able to do any strategy, because you can only view it
I disagree a bit with you here, some strategies like martingale and others actually are very good if someone is happy to accept small profits everyday. I mean yes if you want to double your money, maybe martingale is worst but for a 20-30 % profit, I think best is martingale.
though in a longer run no matter how much you play per day you will always lose those money, i would definitely not take the risks to make only small profit
Yeah I completely agree because basically some people give theories like if we generate small profits daily and then stop after a certain amount then we can win in long term while in reality such strategy delay your loss. Its like user is expected to loose after around 10000 bets and rather than making all 10k bets in a single day he makes 500 each day.
no you're wrong , for me it's not considered as delay the loss. but more to managing your bankroll to survive in the long run, even though i know that bankroll management in a game like dice to make profit for long time are in doubt , but at least you have trying.

LOL. he has a point out there, because at the end of the long run, the chance of encountering the long loss streak has a high chance due to the long duration of the gameplay, but actually controlling bankroll per day might survive if the player have self control, just like he will stop playing once he lose his principal money and come back the day after. there are many possibility on gambling, so there is no right or wrong strategy on it.
- In dice game, strategy is worthless, I see a lot of people often share strategies but all is useless, you can win one day or two day, but then you still lose all the money. Dice game too dependent on luck
- I do not deny some strategies that can help you win, but it never lasts forever. We need is a stable strategy, but in the dice game, I did not find the so-called stable. Strategy really is not consistent with dice game
2294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 09, 2017, 09:02:42 AM
It is difficult, when our emotions and eager to win then everything would lose control. the most important is the issue of money, when we have a lot of money is certainly hard to control myself, I recommend for budgeting our money when gambling, if it loses then it should stop.
yes it is also difficult for me to play stop gambling while playing gambling. actually i do not have control on my emotions and i most play gambling tell the end of my money, although i also have a limit for my gambling, but still it is very difficult to follow that limit.
very honestly it is also very difficult for me to control myself in in gambling. in the beginning in very early days when i start playing gambling, i used to play with all my money i was in my pocket and some time even take loan from friend. but now after playing for such a long time i have changed my strategy of playing gambling. now i have a limit for playing gambling and try to not to exceed that limit in any case. although some time i even cross the limit but still it is helpful to me in controlling myself in gambling.
- Right, we should set a limit and try to control themselves. Although sometimes we exceed the limit, but we will not lose too much
- I know when we are gambling for a long time, the stop is very difficult but we need to try to control and do not exceed the limit. If we feel nearly exceed the limit, please  turn off the computer and unplug the network, then you can go to sleep or go somewhere to relax. Creating habits while gambling, that will help you in controlling yourself
 
2295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: February 09, 2017, 08:48:16 AM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?

The reason why gambling is so addictive is because gambling gives a thrill that we never expect, especially when excitement is coming. In betting, they give a happiness when you are winning. And when you encounter the losing you want to back your money, that why you will addictive to gambling.
That really is the thrill and excitement of gambling. Everyone really want to take back their losses every game and it is really hard to take back their losses, because the more you desperately want to get that back, the more you are losing and getting addicted to gambling. But thankfully I am done being an addict in gambling and just view it as a past time and entertainment.
Well i am addicted gambler before but never thinking that i want to get back all my loses my target before i want to win big.. i am not satisfied even i already made a profit that can turn into lose if i will continue because i am not satisfied what i had..
The addiction can be trigger if you are feeling happy in you habits..  but if you are losing and turn you mad its not an addiction.. i think those who are wanting to recover their loses they are thinking to get back but its not a addiction and i think they are angry why they are losing a lot of money in gambling..
- Gambling always brings many emotions for us, we are happy when we win and angry when losing. Actually, although win or lose we still continue playing, because when we win, we become greedy and want to earn more money. While we lose, we continue to play because angry and want to earn back the money. All things are because greed, greed make us become addicted to gambling
2296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 09, 2017, 08:23:38 AM
- Gambling will not be happy if you are too focused on money problems. Before playing, you should determines that you play because fun or because money

Some people feel fun while gambling and some want to get money, although people say they have fun however we all share the same motive. We want to get money as well however it is not necessary as it is only a bonus if I win then it is all good . For some people, they play really to win and not anything else than that

I am sure majority of the gamblers are playing gambling only for money including me. But i suggest, if we win than good but if we lose, than relax yourself and feel fun and in this time, remember that gambling has a meaning of fun, and entertainment. Than i think we could adjust our sadness. But i believe gambling is not addicted, only we are greedy to demand money from gambling in everytime.
- I know we will be very happy if we can make money while gambling, but making money from gambling is difficult, and nobody satisfied with the money they earn, they always to want more and more, result is they lose all because greed. We will really not happy if we do try to continue to gamble with the purpose of making money, I hope we can play comfortably gambling because gambling is a game , and games are used for entertainment and relaxation
2297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 08, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
Gambling destroys lives and turns people like ourselves into what we are now. To be honest I am I ashamed being a gambler but wanting to do something to change my image to other people who knew about me that I am a gambler it is a huge step it's hard but worth the effort.

I don't agree with you because it completely depends on you, many people are gambling for fun with little amount of money. poker is one of the best example so many people used to play this game at homes. But we fee shameful for that. No they are playing it for fun to enjoy their happy moments.
- Yes, You should not blame the gambling, gambling does not destroy the lives. Because greed, you lose everything and then you blame the gambling. Gambling is good or bad depends on us
- If we over use it, it really will destroying our lives. But if we play a controlled way, it will bring fun and a little money for us
- You feel ashamed not because you are a gambler, you shame because of your greed, shame because the way you gamble and shame because the damage which you caused you and your family
2298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 08, 2017, 01:38:54 PM
Besides gambling is a fun activity

gambling is definitely not a fun activity, I dont feel fun with loosing my money or even when I win. I take this thing seriously because it involves money. It is crazy to see someone actually feels fun about losing his money, this is probably the dumbest thing that I have ever read with the exception that money is never an issue for you
lol you can not see something on one side , it might dumb based on your perspective.
but not necessarily it is same way for other people , you have to see on the other side.
you have to make a friend with someone who really don't care about money as they have everything already!
- Gambling will not be happy if you are too focused on money problems. Before playing, you should determines that you play because fun or because money
- I know the things related to money are often very sensitive, but you also should not tell other people crazy or stupid. If you say gambling is not fun, you can not play. But if you play, you should enjoy the feeling fun while playing. Not to judge others when you are not in their position
2299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control emotion when you are on crucial part of gambling? on: February 08, 2017, 01:18:52 PM
Talking about crucial moment in gambling many people think that is the moment when you considered to still play or continue?
And many of us drawing as live and death in the last betting
But crucial moment happen in two kind of momentum's these are :
-straight win
Where I mean if you still win will you decide to stop before it too late
-lost a lot
Where I mean in the position you only have a little amount on your account
So you need to decide to continue or wait the other day where you believe you'll be luck!
If you do realize these are
Well in gambling you'll not be fell the emotion as it going to brings you Smiley

this is always the problem with people who doesn't know how to assess themselves I guess as a personal thought this is the advantage of pro gamblers against the regular gamblers with pro they know when to stop and they are not affected of any emotion they knew that day is not good for them and they will give up even at a small loss and leave while regular gamblers will proceed and sometimes yolo and big chances losing everything,.
- I think emotions are always affect all players. Although you are a professional gambler or a newbie, emotions will affect certain parts
- Because at the decisive moment, emotions very easily affect us. Success or failure is decided by us, but most of us do not control the greed to continue to play and then lost all money
2300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 07, 2017, 03:00:40 PM
Yes, trading is like gambling in many ways. First of, like in gambling no one can actually predict what will happen next. In gambling it's about what number you will roll or what card will appear next. In trading it's about which coin will be pumped today and which will be dumped. Second, like in gambling, the higher the amount of money you risk in trading the higher your profit might be in case your predictions were right ones.
I agree with the points yoy gave to show similarities between trading and gambling. But generally trading is way more risky than gambling as gambling is mostly luck but in trading a really good strategy is required if a person thinks he has the skills to determine the price or other factors then trading is best for them but if you are beginner and has zero knowledge about trading then I would recommend you to stay away from trading.
Trading is for long term but not gambling, gambling will only give us some enjoyment as we go with it but in the long run, we will start to feel bored as we will realize that we keep losing money. Let us not trade like we are gambling, it's a serious venture, therefore we should treat it that way.

Risk is already part of it, it's its nature and we cannot eliminate it but we can mitigate it.
Yes, Trading is never as same as gambling due to what you mention above. Trading is a real earning activity and it can be considered as an appropriate job. Many people have chosen trading as a way of making money and most of them achieve some decent success with their trading career. Gambling is only a fun activity, a industry which is made to bring the joy and happiness to those dared to risk their money
You do have a point but still I could able to say that it also considered as gambling specially when you don't have any idea on how to trade It would really be like gambling since you are trading so very risky and I agree with you with you trading would really become a real earning activity in longer runs unlike on gambling which results are fully random.
Well, when you do that blindly, probably you're going to be risking your money, and that is gambling. It's not technically gambling, but it is like it. There is the only danger of losing few money instead of losing it all (Except if you really bought a large amount and unluckily that coin, you invested in, loses its value) Soon. I will be practicing trading myself.
- Trading is not like gambling. The nature of the trading is based on the strategy, analysis and skills to search suitable transaction, you need to have a lot of experience to deal with problems in trading, luck is only part of the success in trading
- Gambling is completely based on luck, strategies or analysis is only suitable for sports gambling, and it's not really efficient. Gambling can not become source of income
- I think trading and gambling have many similarities as risk factors, luck, ... However, We can not considered trading as gambling, we have similarities but the nature is really different
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