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2281  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Method of gaining bitcoin from scratch on: December 13, 2017, 10:58:45 AM
Hey guys,

What are some methods of gaining bitcoin from scratch? Grin
Preferably not faucets

You can earn bitcoins in many free ways,  one way I earn bitcoins on the side is working on task sites and survey sites. 
I sell my Gift cards to bitcoin exchanges on purse.io or on Reddit.  Purse.io you can add your amazon gift card to your
Amazon balance then, order them their product, the only fall back it takes awhile but def worth it.  I bought at 12,000 USD rate and now earned more since bitcoin has risen on value.
2282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ☘☘☘ Futures Will Increase The Volatility Of Bitcoin ☘☘☘ on: December 12, 2017, 10:59:27 AM
Futures won't necessarily impact the direction of bitcoin (in regards to the price going up or down). But it will greatly impact the volatility. Bitcoin is already one of the most volatile assets in the world. Which allows for massive profits AND massive losses to be made at the same time. The swings are going to get more intense because it will become easier to bet both sides without actually holding any coins. The peaks and the dips are about to get more intense.

With fees increasing so much it will be very hard to sell and buy bitcoin on whim. So people will lean toward holding. The problem is that futures will start to have a greater impact since the fees will be smaller and people will be able to bet on the direction of bitcoin without actually buying or selling it.


Good luck to any day traders trying to chase the ups and downs! Good luck to the HODLers! Good luck to you all ☘

Just realize with volatility comes risk. There is a tradeoff of substantial risk (depending on your actual investment) for a potential of incredible returns



I noticed in your threads you been posting neg fud about bitcoin, why do you not come here and post it with your real account instead of using an newbie alt account?  your Post wont hold credible with me, especially with all your negative bantering about it on every thread you have posted about it.  Guys research his account and you will see he has an agenda to spread panic. 
2283  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why people fear about BITCOIN on: December 12, 2017, 07:12:55 AM
Because bitcoin is a cryptocurrency even though it is accepted by more and more people, it still can be listed as fiat coin. What is more, may countries have announced bitcoin is not fiat currency.  But what make the holders happy is that the price goes higher and higher,  this can added to their value. Cheesy

it seems you do not know what fiat is?  How can Bitcoin be a fiat coin?  Fiat is when a currency has intrinsic value  that is
established by the government as money.  Government can control that value, they basically use there power to give it a value.
also Fiat in latin means "Let it be done"  in case you did not know that.
2284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sell your house for investment in btc. on: December 11, 2017, 12:13:54 PM
Just imagine selling your $259,900 house for 43BTC and 2 Months in street.

and after just 2 months sell 43BTC for $498198.

Again buying the previous also you will be in profit of $472298.


would you try this technique.

What will happen if the price of Bitcoin will go down? LOL. Don't make Bitcoin as a gamble of your daily life.

Tell that to the family who sold there house and all property for money then invested it all in bitcoin when bitcoin was 3000 USD now his money is quadrupled and they still did not convert it back to fiat, because I am sure you can buy a house with bitcoin now and there is no need too, when the price will go to 100k and up.  


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This is maybe an option for a single person who is risk taker with no dependents but in my life, considering I have a family of my own, this is definitely not applicable and not even a choice. Besides, in my personal opinion, I do not find it practical. Having a house to live in is one of the essential need of man.  A comfortable place to rest is important. I just don't imagine myself living on street just to earn more money.   It is not bad to sacrifice something to be able to buy bitcoin but not up to extent that I will sell my house. 
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You depend too much on the system that means, you cant survive without the daily things.  All you need is a wireless laptop, solar charger for the laptop battery and wifi connection to a hotspot or a prepaid as you go internet card.  If I can get my mother in law to sell their lands I would.
2285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want to be a millionaire? if you own 0.01 btc you already are on: December 10, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
too good to be true,
the first question will be how long do u think it might happen?
next question is how about the energy consumption of the miners?
and the3rd question will be how big is the fees will gonna be?
well it might happen who knows right?

Those questions are the reality.  But to answer the question, it is possible that it could happen.  It could happen but not so soon.  We saw how bitcoin price hastily goes up.  And maybe just five years from now, its price would be like what we want.


yes it is possible,but i guess by that time most normal people cannot even afford to pay for the fees....
but ofc im one of those who saw bitcoin frm hundreds climbing up to thousands and that was really awesome!
as of now all we can do it wait and be observant...anything can happen fast at this point,either a fast pump continue or a fast dump...
Honestly if they do a dump, so what. Is better for everyone to be honest, I really want to put my money into bitcoin anyhow, what I really want is the fees to be fixed and the speed.  I really hoping the lighting network can do away with the issues that bitcoin is having right now. and if it can not, then I gotta say maybe bitcoin wont fare well in the long run, or maybe it will be just a rich mans coins where only the rich will use it.
2286  Economy / Speculation / Re: NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY!! on: December 10, 2017, 12:49:28 PM
everyone is panicking because it’s hitting Wall Street tomorrow ..... fact of the matter is, price will still reach 25k range by January since Bitcoin will remain a growing commodity.. and once big investors start pumping huge money into it, the takeoff is inevitable. Buy now or you’ll soon regret it.. all these talks of a crash by people who missed the boat is striking lots of fear in people, but it’s fear that’s not rooted in reality.

Don’t say i didn’t warn you folks.

You have no idea if BTC will go to $25K in January, or ever. Stop talking nonsense.

I just cashed out all my initial capital, and now just playing with house money. I won't be a buyer ever unless BTC drops below $10K.

Then you will be left in the dust, you will be one of those ones saying, damn I should have bought bitcoin when it was at 13,000 when it is at 130,000 USD.  I seen this alot, I wont buy blah blah, then when prices increases 20 folds they cry.  Truth I can find all these stories and they are all the same.  I suggest you buy in this low dip now before you miss out.  You should also look out for my thread, explaining if you own 0.01 btc your already a millionaire.
2287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will CME's and CBOE's bitcoin futures affect the market? on: December 09, 2017, 01:33:08 PM
Government regulator: We're going 'to make sure' new bitcoin futures are not manipulated.

Federal oversight of bitcoin futures aims to preserve the integrity of the contracts, a CFTC official tells CNBC.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/government-to-make-sure-new-bitcoin-futures-are-not-manipulated.html

CFTC Statement on Self-Certification of Bitcoin Products by CME, CFE and Cantor Exchange
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7654-17



So if this is True, you guys should be buying as much as you can right now lol.  you guys are scared.  Winklevoss also confirmed my prediction to a 100 million dollar bitcoin.  Keep speculating and before the whales come in you will miss out.
2288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want to be a millionaire? if you own 0.01 btc you already are on: December 09, 2017, 01:15:12 PM
If bitcoin goes up to 100 million how will fees work? $3000 to send $2000 ?? If you not rich by then how are you going to pay for the transactions? I think we need to start slowly lowering the minig fees because I think the way it works is the average miner fee is dependent on the average fee paid by us, so the miners don't control the fees at all. So really it should be like 5000 Satoshi to may a small transaction but because people keep insisting on these high fees the miners just ignore or only get back to your transaction if no there no more transactions of better value. If everyone lowered their fees it would be much cheaper because the average would drop. Paying for miner fees is kind of like a currency in itself. The currency is the miner fee you pay. Right now that miner fee is worth a lot. So it's basically an auction and the highest bidders have their transactions handled first.

I think there is another way around it, I really dont want to put the secret out to be honest because, I love the fact people want to dump, I can dump faster then most people, especially the ones who depend on coinbase to cash out.  There is another way to cash out your bitcoins faster though.  You do not really need to move your coins to wallet to wallet but for the instance of making purchases for services and products, yeah we have to agree this is getting ridiculous.
2289  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want to be a millionaire? if you own 0.01 btc you already are on: December 09, 2017, 11:04:32 AM
In my opinion, this prediction is nonsense  Cheesy
Winklevoss Says,

"We've always felt that bitcoin, given its properties, is gold 2.0 — it disrupts gold. Gold is scarce, bitcoin is actually fixed. Bitcoin is way more portable and way more divisible. At a $300 billion market cap, it's certainly seen a lot of price appreciation, but gold is at $6 trillion and if bitcoin disrupting gold is true and it plays out ... then you can see 10 to 20 times appreciation because there is a significant delta still," Cameron Winklevoss told CNBC on Friday.

"Long term, directionally, it is a multitrillion-dollar asset — I don't know how long it takes to get there,"

This is what they said and I predicted this price at 10,000 but not this soon.

So anything you want to add about this being nonsense?
2290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop buying Bitcoin! on: December 09, 2017, 10:16:14 AM
Guys keep buying, lets make Bitcoin a million dollar coin faster+ joking. But to each is own thoughş You cant tell what people will do, it is just in our
nature to be greedy and be the best we can be.  I am buying bitcoins cause I want to store my money there.  You do not need credit to store your funds or a middleman.  Only issue now is the speed and transaction fees, but I use a middleman to take out my BTC without paying transaction fees.
2291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are cryptocurrencies secured by? on: December 09, 2017, 08:41:53 AM
you could not do the research for this info without posting.  It can be stored by you and it depends on much what you are talking about, most alt
coins have a client side wallet or we call it a coldwallet, which can be stored and secured by you only.  You will have to do more research on how to secure currency of choice.  The answer is out there if you seek.
2292  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want to be a millionaire? if you own 0.01 btc you already are on: December 09, 2017, 08:39:50 AM
If 1 bitcoin cost $100M then I had $1M if I had 0.01 btc or 1M satoshis. Maybe after several years it could increase to the point where people can't buy a single bitcoin because it is already expensive.


1.0 bitcoin does not make it a whole bitcoin, We chose to look at it that way.  0.00000001 is a bitcoin as well.  1.0 and 0.00000001 is no difference because they are just a number.  So shouldn't Bitcoins be independent of itself as units?  Think thanks to the cap, we do not have to worry about owning just 1 bitcoin.  I pointed out a few facts, now just think and come up with more, then you will look beyond what I am telling you.
2293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want to be a millionaire? if you own 0.01 btc you already are on: December 09, 2017, 08:33:01 AM
Honestly, this thread gives me back to mood and make me smile hehehe, although because i have more than 0.01 BTC and thinking what if this thread say's true? In the next few incoming years bitcoin will become $1m per BTC? How does is it? Then all bitcoiners right now technically would become millionaire if they still doing bitcoin before bitcoin become $1m hehehe

Yes but I think and hope at that time we can buy products with bitcoin without exchanging it back into fiat.  I do not want to convert back bitcoin into something like fiat ever again.  I want to be half dependent on government money.



The title says it all get 0.01 btc and you are on ur way to becoming a millionaire, you already are one if you do not know the true value of bitcoins, cough cough Satoshis.  Forget about owning a full bitcoin, you want to earn satoshis, which we call the units of 0 and 1 or Mbits milibitcoins.  Soon a few years from now 1 satoshi will be the equivalent of 1 USD or Euro if money is still around. You know yes most of you missed the billion dollar train but still you have time to have a million dollars worth of satoshis.  so if you do the math owning 0.10,000,000 = 10 million USD  so if you own 0.01 that makes it 1 million dollars. 

You are wondering why I am saying bitcoin is worth 100 million dollars right?  We have a long way to go.  Cough cough, Many factors that contribute the value of 1 bitcoin being worth 100 million dollars.  Well Bitcoin is not just a local or gov owned store of value, its competing with Fiat currency all over the world, from USD, to the YEN.  There are many factors I can shoot out but one major one is that Bitcoin is becoming mainstreamed and the fact there is probably going to be 16 million bitcoins in circulation, why I said 16 mil?  because they are probably around 5 million bitcoins lost.  If you want to add to this topic any more factors that reason why you are already sitting on a million dollars, please be free to do so.
   
Edit: It seems a few of you are agreeing and few are not.  I remember a time the few of you said the same thing about 10,000 USD a bitcoin.  I remember when they said that about 1,000 USD.  Guess what they are all kicking their arses now. 

Here is another factor to add that Bitcoin a World Wide curreny that is competing with fiat.

https://www.google.ro/search?q=how+many+people+in+the+world&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=b0gmWuzOGOHWjwTI9bz4BQ


Edit:  Another add you should read https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/09/bitcoin-cameron-winklevoss-predicts-multitrillion-dollar-value-for-cryptocurrency.html

Winklevoss just made this prediction as well.


I own more than 0.01 that means I a millionaire cough cough I am not yet lol. Bitcoin rising to levels that we have never seen before, and that is good and bad. First I'll tell you why it's good, with increase in price's, we should see more and more people coming in Bitcoins, more usage for the crypto king. Why I don't like it cause, price increase is being done by the future people, these corporates are here to mess the coin and countries shall end up banning it. Currently I am not a millionaire, but someday hope to be.

I agree I do not like the fact CME group futures is doing, they think they are helping bitcoin but in honestly is not fair to others who were true believers.  These people can speculate and buy bitcoins, and make profit by manipulation.  Who knows if that is the plan, I think are job is not buy anymore bitcoins and let them pump the coin.  I think we might have a 5.000 USD crash after the first week of January as well.  I really hate the fact bitcoin is being used as a fast money making investment.  What can we do?  Ride the waves baby
2294  Economy / Services / Re: BITCLOAK BITCOIN MIXER [SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] [CLOSED] on: December 09, 2017, 08:07:41 AM
Thank you for you acceptance.  Ill have to watch out now what I Post

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2295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want to be a millionaire? if you own 0.01 btc you already are on: December 09, 2017, 08:04:29 AM
i want to reply with this today,  to all the doubters that had doubt BTC before  https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/09/bitcoin-cameron-winklevoss-predicts-multitrillion-dollar-value-for-cryptocurrency.html

You guys need to read this, some great info if you are ever doubting Bitcoin. 
2296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will it crash in the next few days? on: December 08, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
I hope it crashes, sseriously.
The rise has been to much, too quickly last few days it's not healthy.
We need a stable and slow increase to the moon

right now it is stabilized for a few hours or so I expect to see $17,000 to $20,000 in a week. I want to take those cheap coins people are exchanging.

you guys wanna pull out, good let me buy those cheap bitcoins, let the prices fall.  I want them cheap coins,  I will get ready for 20k rally.  I hope you guys dont feel bad when you say damn I Pulled out too early, price will be 30k btc. I know how to get out my bitcoins out faster as well but I wont share this secret,  I rather you guys let me dump first when the time is right
2297  Economy / Speculation / Re: whooo!!! Bitcoin just broke the $15,000 mark!!! on: December 07, 2017, 11:48:47 AM
As of writing this, the value of Bitcoin is $15,150 already.  How much more in the next few days???
I sold some today when it was $14,700 price.. Hold yours for more value..

Too scared for entering, I hope I could buy at a lower price. I hate being FOMO'd. I am still waiting for the dip. Smiley

Its not gonna dip for another 3 weeks, prices will keep going higher, you are missing the train and allowing it to get away. 
You should buy now before  it goes any higher.  Do the research on here, many are waiting for CME investors. 
2298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price of bitcoin increase forever? on: December 07, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
Since the total number of bitcoin is fixed, so the value of bitcoin will keep grow, and it's price will keep grow also. So will there a price cap for bitcoin?

No i do not think bitcoin will increase the value forever due to correction.
Correction is needed for bitcoin to make healthy market so not always increase the price forever.
Price will increase till the end of supply and when the whole supply will meet its owners then bitcoin will be at the stable position and then no more buying and selling will occur and maybe prices will be on millions and that’s true that bitcoin will be the upcoming coin of world but the main thing is what will happen next when 21 million of bitcoin will be in people’s hand what will be next strategy by the bitcoin to use it more.

There is no bitcoin 21 million in peoples hands, that is a bad estimate.   Did you know there are already 5 million bitcoins lost?
So if you subtract that, means there is only going to be 16 million bitcoins in circulation maybe even less.
2299  Economy / Services / Re: BITCLOAK BITCOIN MIXER [SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN] [Re-OPEN] on: December 07, 2017, 09:28:56 AM
Why no slots for full members? Doesn't seem like you have filled the campaign, and the signature works for me.

Can I join?
2300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another hack, learned the lesson yet? on: December 07, 2017, 09:00:01 AM
Yes thank you for the warning I think I should take my money off spectrocoin since I hear negativity surrounding it, Who knows if they will use this as an excuse to hack their own site.  Thanks again for making me think of it.
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