Seems like you found a way around the ignore Tempus. I'm ignoring this one too so that I can enjoy Factom discussion without having to read things from people with Dunning-Kruger.
When did I ever say I was going to ignore tempus? You realize when you press ignore, it does't mean that person's ignored for everyone, right ...? I'm not going to look up Dunning-Kruger, nor ask why you seem to be such an expert on it ... He believes you and me are the same person. ;-) You have to read it this way: "Seems like you found a way around the ignore,........ Tempus."But, I also needed to read it 5 times. And Crazyvivian also believes in three now.  It s Mr. Crazyivan for you.  |
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Anybody wanting a long TLDR: if you're an investor in this project on the FCT side, you get the short end of the stick. You have no way of doing adequate diligence, and anybody telling you otherwise are confused.
If you think FCT investors have "no way of doing adequate due diligence," you should sell whatever FCT you own. Seriously. And stop posting on here. Your attempt to argue with tempus has gone from a sad joke to offensive. No one with an ounce of intelligence is buying the bs you're spinning ...
Any suggestion to improve investor protection is met by people telling you "how dare you demand anything!" and it is clear that these people work or collaborate with Factom in some shape or form.
I used to think you were just confused, childish, and bad-tempered, but accusing supporters of FCT of being in bed with Factom is ridiculous. And actually it's beyond ridiculous ... it's the oldest trick in the book: accuse others of what you're doing. tempus I believe already suggested you might be on someone's payroll, and your latest posts -- again, assuming you aren't really as small and ignorant as you pretend to be -- lend a lot of credibility to that. Given the market suppression the past few months, and the amount of money in play, it's looking more and more to me like you're compromised. Again, assuming you aren't as ridiculous as you appear. If you are in the pocket of someone: take a look in the mirror. If you aren't in the pocket of someone: sell whatever FCT you own and eff off. I'm all for constructive criticism, but not for listening to people whose only intention is to pollute an otherwise great discussion. Edit: fixed typos. Seems like you found a way around the ignore Tempus. I'm ignoring this one too so that I can enjoy Factom discussion without having to read things from people with Dunning-Kruger. Makes 3 of us. Nobody can be that optimistic and devote so much time and energy to praising Factom unless there s some kind of angle. I tend to focus on weak points of coins I m invested and try to find a way how to improve these. Shilling and spreading unrealistic optimism achieves nothing but temporary pumps. I believe we all here thing way beyond that. |
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The price still sits in the more less same range. Cannot believe there s no fuel to break up yet.
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I have to say this DOES look very interesting, it cannot be only testing. If this continues, the number of Factoids ll go down too making them more scarce, at least for now.
Will follow this closely in the next days and weeks.
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Great, another referral hunting website full of HYIPs and similar projects run by scammers and ponzi pumpers. Low risk my ass.
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Since we talk about trolls, we should talk about shills and groupies as well. Let s all hold hands, dress in pink and sing kumbaya cause all s nice and merry in the Factomland. Being overcautious has not killed anyone. Being overoptimistic has led people into big time financial disasters. |
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As I ve said, no comment. Good luck,
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I considered you a person I could discuss stuff with. However, since you call me mentally childish and at the same time do nothing but BS about how Factom s about to be great but you see it s still at the beginning and will develop in the future, it s obvious you have some kind of angle here beyond being a holder.
You know how many times I ve heard this line, it s just the beginning but it s gonna be huge. Dozens of times and almost every time it ends up being pure BS. Also, almost every times that BS gets hyped by a lot of shills, supporters, pumpers and so called experts.
You last paragraph tells it all. You ve got problem with me critiquing Factom cause it might affect your desire to get profits. I don't give a shit about that, I m very light in Factom and I do trade it all the time. Also, I ll keep posting about Factom here or anywhere else so your wish for people here to be nice and pink about Factom s really not my problem but it adds to my previous belief you re not just a holder.
Still, that does not mean I m going to intentionally bashing Factom or any other project, not even close.
Anyway, since you ve started insulting me, I m done talking to you, I m not gonna go down to that level to respond in kind. Thank you for exchange of opinions and please do not comment my posts anymore. If you do, do not expect me to reply back to you.
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I agree partially, Factom is an opportunity, it MIGHT deliver something in the future. It is a gamble but every big deal in past also was a gamble at some point. What I do not agree is the fact neither them and it seems nor you understand the marketing potential of Factoid holders. You can end up using full Factom potential by exchanging cash for entry credits and burning Factoids in the process. However, why not use thousands of Factoid holders to do big time marketing for you as well? What company would disregard that and focus only on data entry? You ve confirmed that, Factom does not provide any answers to Factoid holders, no marketing materials, no frequent updates, in one of their past posts they even say "WE DONT CARE". Why would any smart and product oriented team do that? That s simply very, very stupid. Even companies with billions in market cap do that, they still FOCUS on their small consumers and holders cause they do understand the value of marketing and the fact that clients and holders need to be satisfied.
I also agree Ether does it much more differently and this is why the market has responded in much larger market cap, higher price and significant number of companies building stuff around Ether. True, DAO was not delivered as it should. However, I d always go first for those transparent and consumer friendly ones. Why? Cause it s my money and I want to get something in exchange. I do not have a business related to data entry and without early investors Factom would not be where it is now.
So, what s wrong with my logic?
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and YET ANOTHER share offering from Factom. Factom is a bottomless pit of spending that generates NOTHING of value. Just one fund offering after another, while they put out periodic hype updates using the latest buzzwords. Oh look, Ethereum had success with smart contracts, time for Factom to add smart contracts, maybe that will hype the price  Oh boy, try it with logic. If they would like to hype the price up they would have done exactly that! They could manipulate the market however they would like. But if you want to talk about your concerns, please go more into detail: 1. Why is it wrong in your opinion if a company offers shares to Investors to get funds? And what would be better? 2. Do you criticize just the "buzzword" smart contracts, or do you believe all partnerships are just words but non-existent? 3. And if you believe the partnerships are real, do you think they should avoid "buzzwords"? Because that would be hard if they partner with "smartcontract.com", and "smart contract" is a buzzword, right? U re obviously way too optimistic about this project and I can only say it seems like you have a big time personal interest in this, an interest beyond being a holder. This is why you end up arguing with 10 different people at the same time. I would go as far and say you work for Factom or smth but even if you do, please, stop praising them that much. I know you re not trying to generate a HIPE cause I see you know a lot about crypto. Once more, it all comes down to the market, the invisible hand is what determines the price. Having 1k volume on Polo shows what the market currently thinks about Factom compared to 15x that ETH and ETC volume. Yes, that same broken, stolen from and trashed ETH. Why? You tell me why is this? |
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It always come to the fact about showing mining address and photos of the farm. Not 5 GPUs or 1 machine, A FARM!. Whatever you analyse, seek these elements.
On a serious note,the farms which ideally exists in the big space with 100's of miners and high power GPU's,are very confidential in leaking the photos online to keep off the competitors.They have very limited sources to prove their legitimacy on their official website (if at all it exist).All the other cloud mining ponzis fake both,address and photos. Why would they hide those photos? Genesis s got bunch of photos and videos online. Hashnest s got bunch of photos and videos online. So what s the big deal? |
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Very interesting indeed. So 17% company equity for $5,000,000? By my math, that sets company valuation at roughly $29,500,00. Assuming this is correct, I wonder who estimated Factom to be worth $29,500,000 and exactly how this value was derived?
Exactly it's (if I'm correct): €4,493,170 - 17% €26,430,411 - 100% Wow, just see that it's in Euro. Didn't recognize. So you are nearly right. In Dollar it would be $ 29.169.923 - if I didn't make a mistake. https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/factom-series-aI can only guess/speculate how it's evaluated. Maybe they sit together with Bank of the Future and analyze all what's there and how much it could be worth. I doubt that it's possible to do it totally objective. I mean, how to evaluate the code for the system... But maybe bigger VC-Investors get deeper informations about how it was evaluated and they can decide if they agree or not - if not, they don't invest. It's also possible that they already got offers to sell the whole company and maybe there were offers in that range. I don't believe it because most likely there are not many who would be able to overtake Factom, but it's possible because it's not that rare that a team or sometimes just one person builds a start-up and sells it in the early days. But, please no misconceptions: I'm speaking about evaluations not that they really would sell the company. Hope they will never do that. Some months ago it was this: Blockchain Project Factom Raises $400k at $11 Million Valuationhttp://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-factom-400-funding-11-million-valuatoin/And I believe it's a very positive sign that it's value has nearly tripled since that. Even more if they give deeper infos to potential VC-Investors. The fact that the $4.5 Mio is nearly filled long before the deadline, could be seen as a sign that Investors agree that Factom is worth the $29 Mio and they see potential for more. They wouldn't buy if they wouldn't believe in it. In best case VC-Investors have some facts we don't know about yet. It's highly speculative, but if that should be the case it's about good news yet to come. If I'm wrong it's at least obvious that there are VC-Investors who believe in Factoms future. And why not. It may be a risk, but it could be great "bet". If I would be rich I also would try to get shares, not "just" Factoids - even if I think that Factoids are also a great Investment maybe even better. And what's also interesting: The value of Factom as company and the value of Factoids will be connected in future. Most likely never totally, but Factom's value (as a company) also will depend on how much the system will be used. Maybe they also sell applications they develop for companies but it would be basically the same. It would be (maybe already 'is') about customized applications for customers to use the system as effective as possible - for a specific use case. All together: A lot of good signs lately. Nothing that's totally safe yet, but I can't think of realistic bad scenarios while they are obviously wanted regarding VC-money, are awarded from DHS, etc. And I really like it to see that Peter Kirby speaks about land-title-registry in that way. I think we are now over 30M valuation. https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/factom-series-aAs long as the Factoid price does not confirm that, I see that as a classic HYIP for something which should be in the future. The price MUST go up. How the fuck is that damaged ETH still priced that much higher compared to FCT?  ? |
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It always come to the fact about showing mining address and photos of the farm. Not 5 GPUs or 1 machine, A FARM!. Whatever you analyse, seek these elements.
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Still expected more volume on such big news. Both ETH chains are still the main focus not having any major news ATM. Why?
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Really great news guys, glad we re back on track. Keep up the good work.
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Where Factoid re going to be position regarding these smart contracts project? How re entry credits, that is Factoids being used to fuel this? In other worlds, why should I buy more?
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Time for FCT to fly and take position number 1 again. M2 would be a really great element to complement this news.
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The best way to accumulate a lot of Factom is to lend your existing balance so that traders use it to short. This could be one of the most legendary plays in the making. Watch for when the sell side decreases. This is when traders are not lending it in large amounts.
How is this going to help people accumulate a lot of Factom? The average interest rate is what 0.01% and lower. At this rate, one need to lend 100k FCT lent in order to make less then 10 FCT per day. Dont forget Polo taxes 15% of your profits. This is simply NOT possible. |
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What does this mean? Can someone analyse this? Factom not only plans to, "Factomize Everything" but they now answer the question of, "How do we access what is Factomized" with the answer of, "TrustedOracle.com" (I dislike the name but it's fine for now). In other words, if I am reading into this correctly, it appears that Factom intend on being a competitor to Google. But THEIR answers are audited and verified and thus can actually be trusted. If this is correct, now you tell me HOW THE FUCK IS possible Factom team does not promote this on all possible and available media? Why? How? Can you suck that much at marketing? |
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What does this mean? Can someone analyse this? |
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