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2301  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto signals without service fees on: May 20, 2022, 08:34:27 PM
That's right, the telegram signal channels provide rather good paid recommendations while the free ones are of very low quality, but most of the paid channels are not of high quality, I previously subscribed to paid channels on Telegram and did not get any profitable deal!! So I don't subscribe to any channel anymore but rely on my own research, anyway it's good to have a free recommendation channel on Telegram that gives some good recommendations especially for beginners.
I definitely agree that it is not an easy thing to do, it is quite difficult honestly. Finding a channel that would be giving a good indicator or a signal is something difficult, I honestly do not believe that it would be ideal situation. This is why I believe that we should be focusing a bit more towards finding your own stuff, that would be a lot better situation.

At the end of the day, there is a good case to be made about not being able to profit too much yourself as well but it is certainly a way to learn and get better as well. This is why I believe that even if you lose money, at least you would learn and do a lot better in the long run.
Because, there is none. Indicators are a thing that shows what the crypto market "should" do, but it never shows what it will do. So that means if you try to trade based on the current price, then you are going to end up losing a lot of money and if you do it like 10 times, then at least half of that could be wrong.

This isn't something that I care about much, but at the same time it isn't something fully impossible neither. This should be something regarding indicators and not the people who share it. Look at what we could do manually by checking what's going on in the crypto world along with the indicators together and that will be better.
2302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you knew the founder of Bitcoin, would you still use it? on: May 20, 2022, 07:44:44 PM
So what do you use it for? And let's see if it's interrelated with the current use of BTC. I see there's so much we don't know about, and even a questionable story about who created it. Do you know what the truth is about one of the things that you probably forgot about the origin of the human race? And you're still there. Some of the things we're still forcing ourselves on, I can think of by our own choices. There are people who are happy with their lives right now, and there are people who are unhappy with them. The search for outside things unrelated to one's own problems is something that I find very amusing to happen in this life.
The reality is that, if you asked who created "the dollar", there wouldn't be many people who end up responding to you neither. They know that it is used by Americans, and the American government must have created it but they do not know that it was the Spanish that created it in reality, and not the Americans.

All in all, bitcoin and who created it doesn't matter, if they had some power sure, but since they don't, it makes no sense to know who created it or not. The question is not even saying they would still be around, it could be someone dead, hence we would only know who they are, but they are dead, so why would that matter?
2303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Paradox - a Simple Online Scam Honored as Deity on: May 20, 2022, 07:04:37 PM
I still benefit from censorship resistant transactions if no new participants join.
I still benefit from psudonymous levels of privacy if no new participants join.
I still benefit from the strength and security of the network if no new participants join.

Because the network itself is a tangible resource.  Real people running software on real devices.  Ensuring that every single transaction in every last block conforms to the rules of the protocol.  All of that infrastructure exists.  And you need bitcoin (the currency/asset) to benefit from Bitcoin (the network).  The value is real and it's only the willfully ignorant who are unable to see it.
Also, we need to realize that if you have no dollars, then you are getting it from someone else? I mean is that the same logic? Or gold? The person who got in the first, made all the money and the one that got the last will end up with the worst situation?

This ponzi scheme thing is trying to get into everything but we all know that it is not the reality. Sure you could end up with a ponzi scheme somewhere, they are still out there but to call bitcoin a ponzi scheme, that is just a comedy. We get to use it as well, we get to earn it as well, we get to spend it as well. To think just because there are investors, and hence why it must be ponzi to make everyone rich, makes gold a ponzi.
2304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 19, 2022, 08:31:32 PM
The schedule for the last match of the season is not held at the same time, it seems that only Serie A and La Liga have a schedule like this. Because when compared to the Premier League, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 they have a schedule for their last match at the same time. But even so, Milan and Inter's last match schedule is at the same time and the schedule will certainly be very interesting, because then they will play aggressively from the first minute. Imagine, for example, Inter played early and then lost and Milan played after, then maybe Milan won't chase the win and it will be a boring last match, but fortunately they get the same time for the last match later.
I was wondering what you mean by not schedule at the same time, then you said Milan and Inter had the same date, so I realized that you meant like not all the games all at the same time. What we should care about is just 2 matches, what Inter will play against Sampdoria (easy game if you ask me) and what Milan will play against Sassuolo (another easy game).

I know that many people realized long time ago that Milan already got it, of course they could have done something that is a bit more difficult if they end up not playing great. We had that kind of stuff many times before and we could have something like that again but that doesn't mean that it will be the common thing Milan will win. It's going to be quite easy, unless something unexpected happens.
2305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Terra Luna Delisting from Binance, investors lose millions of dollars! on: May 19, 2022, 12:47:04 PM
After such a crash there was not much to do, those that are trading luna right now are just speculating with it while those that are still holding their coin and were unwilling to sell have to accept they just lost whatever they invested in luna, I am really sorry for them but after reading a little bit more about the coin it became obvious to me that it was a scam, and I have great difficulty believing that other people did not thought the same but were blinded by the potential profits they thought they could get, and now they are paying the consequences of their mistake.
You should not be sorry to say the truth. Anyone who still keeps their Luna should accept that they lost all of their investment. Something that worth 80k just 10 days ago, would worth less than a dollar right now, how could you hope for that to come back, to anything at all?

This is why it’s clear to me people who are still holding probably realized that, and just said why would I sell it for pennies, would not make sense, and just holding just in case, nothing more. This is not a horrible logic, because what will you gain if you sell it for 50 cents? Not that it will recover or anything, but doesn't worth even the fee you will spend on selling it.
2306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your epic fail experience in gambling on: May 19, 2022, 09:12:18 AM
My epic fail in gambling is when i can't control my self playing even though i already have good profits, what i mean the situation that because of addiction/greediness instead of ending with profits you always end up with losses .Lol

I dont know why it always happened to me, actually sometimes i want to stop gambling. But i can't!  so i decided to set a limit.  Grin
Dunno if that was an example of epic fail because I think an epic fail can mean accidental but winning and then losing it seems intentional already unless if you hit that max button without your consent and lose all what you already earned in an instant. You said you "always" end up with this? So, why the heck you cant correct yourself?

Maybe you need to do some serious acts already like excluding yourself from the site that you are playing or you can try rehabbing your own self. Let see if this thing won't stop. Your experience is too common. Not only you but when I browse gambling threads, there's always users that suffers the same.
2307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Potential to Drop in the $32k Area on: May 18, 2022, 09:10:12 PM
The graph you made two week ago turned out to be true that bitcoin fell to the $32k area. I had thought that the bitcoin price would not go down to the $32k level but it turns out that what we are seeing at the moment the bitcoin price continues to weaken and move bearish until it drops to the $29k area. It is likely that the crypto market will continue to decline and the price of bitcoin has the potential to drop to around $25k in the next few weeks.
The price was spotted being stable at 29k and it's been here this past days. I guess this was the latest support for bitcoin? But like we witness last time, there is still a tendency that the price will go up after a few days and then drop below 29k again. The 25k that you said is possible.

There are even threads here which states that bitcoin can plunge 23k to 21k. That's pretty low and maybe that is what the lowest btc price can go within this year if ever the correction continue's. For those who want's to buy, now you know if what to expect. Just don't be greedy and expect beyond that points because I haven't seen anyone predicted lower than that.
2308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 18, 2022, 08:08:10 PM
The competition is considered over for the top four teams, the title has been taken by Real Madrid, Barcelona finished second, Atletico and Sevilla occupy the third and fourth positions. The teams at the bottom are still struggling to survive in order to appear in La Liga next season. There are no more exciting matches for big teams, because they tend to give young players a chance. Villarreal and Bilbao are still struggling to finish in seventh position as they are only one point adrift.
Alaves is gone and Levante is gone as well, that has been established for a while now. It will be one of the Cadiz-Mallorca-Granada trio that will go down for sure, and in that situation I would rather cadiz go down as well, Mallorca maybe had a bad season but they are actually quite good team, and at the same we are talking Granada which is doing better than the other two.

So, there is a good case to be made about the current Cadiz team to be worthy of the drop. The tops are exactly like you said. I believe ATM will finish third and Sevilla will finish fourth, they should be considering themselves as unlucky because they should have done better.
2309  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC Holding or Using ? on: May 17, 2022, 03:11:12 PM
I've consistently maintained that what gives Bitcoin its value is the activities of those who trade it and not those who hodl. If people refuse to trade it, how will its value be known? Wasn't it for that cause that the 10,000 Bitcoin for two pizza originated? I won't be shocked to find out that most of those who scream hodl are secretly trading it. For me, I think trading has advanced Bitcoin more than hodling. I don't see anything wrong with those who trade it. Likewise, those who hodl shouldn't see those who trade it like they aren't important to the whole Bitcoin process. BTW, there aren't any crypto that people aren't hodling. It's not only Bitcoin that is treasured to be heDl.
I personally do not, I hold it because I know that there will be some who will trade it. Even there are liek 10 bitcoins traded every single day between people, the other millions of bitcoins hold would jump up and down in value. The reason why I believe others will trade is the fact that prices change and people have reasons to buy or sell it for that price.

If the price becomes 200k suddenly and instantly right now, there will be ton of people who are willing to sell, that is the main reason why I know that as long as I hold, I will be profiting in the long run, because after all those people are gone and sold, time will come for a higher price and my time to sell.
2310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your epic fail experience in gambling on: May 16, 2022, 07:08:59 PM
I don't remember the exact year that this promotion introduced but as I remember, It needs to comment on PD ANN thread here in the forum the hash of your bet that contains the exact winning number. The consecutive number promotion is what I participate before but I never win any of those promotion. Your case is a typical result which the casino expecting for the result of there promotion besides attracting new players to enter. We have natural greedy attitude as part of our human weakness. I think many of us got wrecked on gambling because of this greediness.
Didn't know that pd held a promo like that before in the forum but by the time I joined pd the promos are already held within their own forum. Up until now they still have that promotions where you will hunt a certain number or multiplier. It's one of their ways to earn a profit but at the same time it makes their forum active.

The promo was fun other than being profitable if you are lucky and you are not greedy. Before I participate on them, I made a pre-calculation first and I compare my potential cost to the reward that I will win. I will stop once I bust my allocated capital dedicated only for the promo because continuing isn't going to be worth it anymore.
2311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 16, 2022, 10:14:16 AM
it's a little difficult for Hertha now considering at the moment in Bundesliga 2 now Hamburger SV are in very good form.
They have currently gone 5 games with 5 consecutive wins which leaves them in 3rd position at the moment. On the other hand, Hertha is still quite difficult to maintain their performance 5 games 2 lost, 2 won and 1 draw still not able to save them from a good result
It's difficult to predict who is coming into Bundesliga and which team is going to relegate because with current form Hamburger SV is very good, and they won their last five matches without any serious trouble now they are fighting for their spot into Bundesliga and on other side Hertha Berlin was in amazing touch, but sadly their last three matches bring them into this position with mostly peoples were feeling Stuttgart is going to relegate they have done amazing job in their last three matches and fight back with level points and having good difference in goals give them safety for one more year into Bundesliga.

But, here I am very happy as two great clubs after sometime come back into big league, hopefully now they will do much better and try to stay here for some long time.
2312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 16, 2022, 09:09:17 AM
Salah is becoming a legend. Still, I don't think he will ever be compared to players like Messi and Ronaldo, who were still at a higher level than Salah. Salah is very important to Liverpool, more important than Messi and Ronaldo to their teams at the moment. At the moment I also rate Benzema a bit higher than Salah. I expect more of that in the final as well.
Surely Mohammad Salah is one of most promising soccer player of current era but right now living under shadow of Messi and Ronaldo, but age factor is with him hopefully after few years when these both legendary players retired from soccer then peoples have some better compliments about this player.
There is no doubt his contribution for Liverpool is unanimous, and he is doing amazing job for his club even he lost ANC for Egypt in final but his contribution for his country and club is amazing now he is going to complete his treble for Liverpool in coming days against Real Madrid which could another great milestone for his club and career as player.

Same happening with Benzema in Real Madrid as his last few match's performance is amazing for his club, but he has no respect like other legends of this game, hopefully he will also bring some more glories for his country and club.
2313  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I started investing in crypto 4 years ago but recently did I made profits on: May 15, 2022, 09:55:26 PM
Well, I'm never following specific influencers when it comes to crypto since what they do is most likely because they're paid and yeah skip for that. So far I never get rug pull from DeFi Coin but if getting rug pull by old coins around 2 years ago, it's happened to me and not only 1 coin. From there I always do my own research and use money that I can afford to lose so getting easily scammed won't happen to me again.
Old coins? But that's not prolly the old coins in my mind e.g btc and eth, but it could be the coins from the late ico's because many of them are a failure or only just a scam and maybe you invest on those coins because you are being encouraged by some influencers because I can see how much you hate them. That's good that you already learned your lessons. I think you are fully aware about the scams in defi.

Many projects are still continuously being rugged by their devs. It's nice that you didn't try touching them. I think if there are influencers that are telling the truth and not being paid, then that would be the influencers that only talk about bitcoins.
2314  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: avoid scam telegram groups , find useful tools and channels on: May 15, 2022, 09:31:22 PM
It is your prerogative to join these groups or not. You can always peek whatever they are doing and they may indeed give you good tips. But if they start shilling a particular never-heard coin, better get out because they are not here to help would be traders, but you will be rekt by their choices. You can always give them the benefit of the doubt and see what they are offering in their channel. If it is free, check what's in it, but if it is paid, better think many times before you spend that money.
That’s usually the aim of the majority of groups like this, they just try to gather as much people as they can and after they have succeeded in gathering them, which is definitely going to be noobs, they will start to promote some strange coins to them and trying to make them invest in all those coins and at the end, these coins never benefit them at all.

Anyone who is considering these groups should have a second thought about it. With that said, if anyone still decides to go ahead and join them, then they should be sure of what they are going into, never to rush and pay money when they are not yet sure.
2315  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TA or FA which is a better choice for market speculation. on: May 15, 2022, 08:52:10 PM
when making speculative guess as to what will most likely happen in the future and make your trade based on it. It's not 100% we all know that, but at least the trends might help you identify opportunities. If it doesn't work on you, then find another indicators. So it's a learning process as you continue to educate yourself. But yeah, it is TA that I most rely on when making my trading/investing position.
I don’t think I have seen a trader that would say that they are not making use of fundamental analysis instead of technical analysis, majority of them, if not all, in the market has to rely on technical analysis when they are trading.

So it is the norms, although it’s also good that we traders look into making use of fundamental analysis to look into a coin very well and understand it, because it’s not every time that technical analysis works. Combing technical analysis along with fundamental analysis might be having more percentage of winning chances but for that you must need lots of time to have such a mixture of analysis.
2316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 15, 2022, 08:16:11 PM
Manchester City... that was close today. Maybe the championship will be decided next Tuesday. FC Southampton maybe win against Liverpool and City have 4 points more on the last matchday. Now it's still a little exciting, but I think Manchester City are 85% the champion. The last matchday against Aston Villa, that's no problem.
City's last match is against Aston Villa. Aston Villa's performance is not enough good. Winning this match will probably ensure the victory of Manchester City. Liverpool's next match is against Southampton. As Liverpool has consistently performed well, I think they will win against Southampton. And so the last match will be a do-or-die match for Manchester City. The city must win by any means.
Even today Manchester City was not good and done few mistakes but still a draw is winning title for them because now they have only one match against Aston Villa at home and with this win their lead will be seven points which is enough Liverpool is having two matches, and they can win both with this they will be able to reduce these seven points lead into one, and they are going to stay at second spot with Chelsea is going to stay at third.

We have tough battle between Tottenham and Arsenal for fourth spot which is mostly in favor of Tottenham as now they have only one match against Norwich and Arsenal is going to face Newcastle United and Everton both are not easy games for them.
2317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What do you think about CAKE? on: May 15, 2022, 04:04:46 PM
Seeing the current market situation of the achievement of 20$ is difficult to happen this year, but in the future if the price of bitcoin increases again and the market situation will return to normal then the achievement of 20$ for KUE is very easy to happen, because we can see the development of KUE in the last year the achievement of the highest price of up to 40$ then to return to the highest value takes a process and will not happen this year.
It doesn't need to be 20 bucks neither for the same profit, how? You could buy it at current price, it could reach to 10 bucks in a year, and you could profit, there are even systems where you lock it for long term and profit so much more. So, if the price reaches to even 5-6 dollars levels, or max 8 dollars, there will be people who make so much money if they are holding it until it reaches there.

So, the question you have to ask yourself is "will it be lower or higher next year", if you think it will stay the same or go even slight bit of higher, that means locking it there would mean a lot more money, staking system profits you a lot as well.
2318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I’m done with trash coins!! Looking for something promising on: May 15, 2022, 03:19:20 PM
Well, I always say 'promising' is the same as 'potential' everything has it,,, even shitcoins have promise and potential.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are the ONLY coins with utility. As in, real utility to do real things not just NFT and Defi nonsense.

If you want to play with fire,,, play on with altcoins but know that you will get hurt because altcoins are always trash coins.
I wouldn't agree that btc and eth are the only ones that have any utility at all, there are some other coins that have the same amount of profit and utility which is why I disagreed. However, I would agree that those two are the only ones that have anything probable, and that is a bit more important.

Let's assume a situation where you are given SOL and ETH, both have their own networks where other projects could put their projects on, and you have a brand new project, which one would you prefer? Sure, some responded with SOL and put their project there but majority does it on ETH network. This is why even though the statement is wrong, the mindset is not too far off in reality.
2319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 14, 2022, 09:29:03 PM
For today match i think Monaco will strong at 3rd position because lately they were showed impressive performance in France league that they had 8 consecutive win and since March Monaco unbeatable although their next opponent Brest is not weak team but i think 3 points will belongs to Monaco so pick for them as bet option i think is a good choice
What a day in French League as I was also expecting third spot for Monaco but after end of first half I have feeling now most chances they will stay at fourth or fifth but Marseille and Monaco both done great jobs and Marseille lost against spirited Rennes by 2 - 0 and Monaco done comeback with 4 - 2 which is now giving them second spot behind leaders PSG and Marseille have to stay at third spot as now they are going to fight against Strasbourg and Monaco is having match against Lens.

Even things are not easy but most chances Monaco will win and stay at second with just Strasbourg is going to lose his spot as they are going to face Marseille and Nice is going to replace them which need last day win against Reims.
2320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 14, 2022, 08:43:43 PM
I still cannot understand how Leipzig didn't win against Arminia Bielefeld today. At the end of the day, although Leipzig finished the league in 4th place and qualified for the champions league, they do not give me any hope for the next year. I think the technical director may need to change.
Right now, after qualifying for next year's Champions League spot it is not big concern for them because Arminia Bielefeld already relegated was playing for pride, and they have done good job at the end of season, but now it's time for Leipzig to do some better for next year because now they are already in Champions League, and they are losing some good qualify in performance which can ruin their season as this happen to many teams after having place into Champions League they lost in both sides like domestic league and Champions League here working on quality is big challenge.

Surely now they have big responsibility, and they need to do some revolutionary works for better arrangement of next season.
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