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2301  Economy / Gambling / Re: I want to make a telegram live betting group… on: July 13, 2022, 10:56:08 AM
I’ve actually been using telegram for very very long but i dont really see any good live betting groups. Like people share their prediction and thoughts around kind… normally i see a lot of fixed scams, posting ridiculous odds and winnings, really sick and tired of these scammers. But i dont really know if it’s easy or good to make one telegram group.

I kinda like community to share and chat around you know, everyone discuss about their games and what to bet and all. So eitherway, i’ve created a telegram group for sports and casino betting discussion. Give me some advice and opinion to better improve my group… it will be good for you all to be part of it too.  Grin

https://t.me/sportsliveforum
Hows the progress of your project? is there any development ? I am interested but you seems to be not replying in Telegram ?

I even sent you a PM but you are not online for time now.

are you still trying to pursue this?  because if not then better to lock this thread as there will nothing to expect from you.

Maybe he didn't succeed on his plans on that channel that's why you never heard any updates coming from him and I also believe that there's no people got interested on his offer because people are so aware about this schemes or main  intention. Actually we don't need this kind of group because we can do our own research and betting is not kinda hard especially on sports betting where we can already get higher chances to win if we are familiar with the the sports we are betting.
2302  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Some Reasons why there's an Increasing Crypto Scam Rate on: July 12, 2022, 11:52:45 PM
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Surely all these 8 reasons are also the same application outside crypto.
It is not just all happening to crypto and from what I even watched, those "fake email" scams are way more often than crypto.
Cryptocurrency is just their another means of how can they scam people

I noticed that some unscrupulous fraudsters in the area have started accepting crypto. they don't care what is at stake if they can make a profit. Some of the well-known influencers launches paid courses on making money with cryptocurrencies. at the same time, they have no problem presenting proven Ponzi seeds as investment potential. This is enough for uninformed people, and they trust their favourite Instagram influencer. it doesn't matter that he read the first thing about crypto-currencies only a month ago, he is an expert.
That is the beginning of a new-age scam. crypto is just a tool to deceive the naive.

That's how they project their selves to look professional so that they can influence more people and believe that they brought up something huge so that they can earn money from those people who believe in them that's why we shouldn't trust this kind of personalities because they are there creating noise on something beneficial to them and for sure they didn't care about the financial status of other people because their target is to earn a lot of money from what they are promoting.
2303  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: July 12, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
You misunderstood what I was trying to say here. I clearly mentioned that it's never a good idea to submit fake documents for the reasons that you specified, but I can understand why they submit them despite all the risks involved.

Also, it's common sense to only provide your KYC to trustworthy sites like Roobet, Stake etc.
Submitting your KYC documents is really risky and I would never do that as your privacy is in your hands and I am not comfortable with it but if you are submitting for playing then go through legit manners as these casinos have strict policies to freeze your account if they found something suspicious in your documents.
Depends on the idea of what you are sharing. If you are sharing your own picture, your ID and all of that then maybe you wouldn't feel that comfortable with it. But, if you are sharing your address and name, literally just text and no image, then you may want to believe that it's fine.

Or maybe you would not want anything at all, who knows? This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be believing that KYC is bad for everyone, some people are fine with ALL kinds of KYC and they do not mind at all, some people are fine up to certain levels of KYC and not fine with the rest, and some people are against all kinds of it. This is why there isn't a guaranteed thing that covers all people.

Most of the time people doesnt really like KYC and this is the main reason on why crypto gambling had boomed that much because of this reason.

People doesn't really like KYC because many are afraid about possible problem they will get since there are so many case of identity theft happen, but I guess for doing it on legitimate platform is very fine and if they can't really afford to do this anywhere well maybe its good for them to transfer on different casino which didn't required more to their players. But I guess this is much riskier because we don't know if that casino is good and will not scam their users.
Reputation is one of the main things that we do check first before we do trust up on a certain platform and getting confident on sending out verification or information if we do see that it do fits.

Majority of people on this crypto space doesnt really like kyc as much as possible but if you are really that a fan of Roobet then you could always comply on whats been asked
but of course it would really be in exchange on exposing those basic information but for a trusted and reputable platform or casino then you would be confident at least that those
information wont leak out easily.

I didn't like to provide this requirements before but as times fly by and we want something good to happen on bitcoin especially on making it legal on some aspects then providing this necessary will be accepted and this should be done by anyone this is why we need to choose the most reputable among them so that no troubles will happen to us in next following months.

Also if we don't do anything illegal I think there's nothing to worry about.
2304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 12, 2022, 12:16:14 PM


A series game is the best measure of whether a team can handle the pressure. Of course, I like BlackWater to reach even at Semis for new looks in the competition whereas always it's usual to see top teams in SMC and MVP.

 I hope their chemistry will not be destroyed by a possible trade.

If this happen again on blackwater for sure many fans will get dismayed again for this action they made since for sure there are so many fans are not into PBA these days and if they obviously trade there roosters who shows good potentials for sure this will create another anomaly in the league. But hopefully they will not do this and continue to develop what they have this season since its good to see that Blackwater is in good shape now.
2305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking for a crypto that won't depend on BTC anymore on: July 12, 2022, 10:54:33 AM
The majority of investors and traders are increasingly understanding crypto fundamentals before investing, is there any crypto that moves itself according to its fundamentals both now and in the future?
There is none.

All of the cryptos today will and always be dependent to BTC. But at least for the stable coins, they're all pegged to dollars if that's what you mean.

Well, as for that actual coin that won't be going along with bitcoin. There is really no type of coin that does that.
The crypto market only revolves on the future of bitcoin, the rest are just insignificant to the crypto market. So if you want to invest in coins that don’t depend on bitcoin, then expect none. Invest in USD if you want to be free from the shadows of bitcoin, but never expect for huge profits that only bitcoin is able to. As long as it dominates the market, bitcoin will always determine the future of the coins in the crypto market.

Most of the time it is but there are several survives on bear market condition but its hard to spot since we cannot predict what will be the outcome of some coins on this season. But I guess its good for us to research more or see the whole market structure. There are platform which can help us to see the statistics of certain coins like CMC or Coingecko  and maybe we can get good insights on what coins are good to buy at the moment.
2306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you regret buying before the dip on: July 11, 2022, 11:47:17 PM
Everyone who bought before the dip regrets because no one like to see how the value of their bought assets dip and for sure they regret about buying so early since they could actually buy when go more lower. Now they bag hold and unsure on when the price pump again and its a huge pressure to see the market goes decline daily especially when bear market occurs.
2307  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: July 11, 2022, 10:28:45 PM
You misunderstood what I was trying to say here. I clearly mentioned that it's never a good idea to submit fake documents for the reasons that you specified, but I can understand why they submit them despite all the risks involved.

Also, it's common sense to only provide your KYC to trustworthy sites like Roobet, Stake etc.
Submitting your KYC documents is really risky and I would never do that as your privacy is in your hands and I am not comfortable with it but if you are submitting for playing then go through legit manners as these casinos have strict policies to freeze your account if they found something suspicious in your documents.
Depends on the idea of what you are sharing. If you are sharing your own picture, your ID and all of that then maybe you wouldn't feel that comfortable with it. But, if you are sharing your address and name, literally just text and no image, then you may want to believe that it's fine.

Or maybe you would not want anything at all, who knows? This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be believing that KYC is bad for everyone, some people are fine with ALL kinds of KYC and they do not mind at all, some people are fine up to certain levels of KYC and not fine with the rest, and some people are against all kinds of it. This is why there isn't a guaranteed thing that covers all people.

Most of the time people doesnt really like KYC and this is the main reason on why crypto gambling had boomed that much because of this reason.

People doesn't really like KYC because many are afraid about possible problem they will get since there are so many case of identity theft happen, but I guess for doing it on legitimate platform is very fine and if they can't really afford to do this anywhere well maybe its good for them to transfer on different casino which didn't required more to their players. But I guess this is much riskier because we don't know if that casino is good and will not scam their users.
2308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: July 11, 2022, 12:37:48 PM
And I will say that it was really boring, a snoozer fight and I'm right. When I check the score afterwards it is Vargas who won on the score card. So I guess Magsayo is just another hype fighter, just B level to me, in my opinion. Not in the same breathe as other Filipino greats like Manny and Nonito.

It has become boring because Vargas was just playing with the points, he made sure to use his advantage over Magsayo and he was really effective in doing that. He got a good coach as well, so I'm not surprised that he won the fight. Magsayo has the power but he lacks speed, he could not destroy the defense of a taller boxer, so I guess better luck next time if rematch is going to happen.

He's not a champion anyway, right? He knows how to use his advantages and from what I've seen, he really understands how Magsayo fight so he didn't give Magsayo a chance to penetrate; he keeps his distance and keeps throwing punches away to make sure that Magsayo won't be able to get a good look when trying to attack him.

Yes, there's always another chance for Magsayo. He can call for a rematch and re-try to bring back his belt.

That's how smart fighter out scored his opponent and Vargas show some good fight there. Feel sorry for Magsayo because he down play his opponent and do swaggering before anything else. Now there's no Philippine champion and its a huge shame for organization because almost all of them has been wiped out by their opponent. There's a chance that Magsayo can ask for rematch but this will happen if the camp of Vargas would agree on this since many fans still want to watch their match because this match can be consider as unfinish business.
2309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 09, 2022, 09:55:31 PM
There is still a long time for the 2022-23 season to start. It is going to be underway on October 18, 2022. Lakers have a long time period ahead to think about the new team composition that they should be building for next season. Their lineup was really inadequate last season and Lebron had to do all the work. This caused them to have a poor season and say goodbye to the playoff round before even it started. Lebron must be waiting for proper trades to be motivated to continue playing for them.

Well, time is gold for the Lakers if they are serious in planning to get key players for the next season. They might lose their targeted players to other teams.

I do believe that it is just hard to trade Westbrick's $47 million salary. And the Lakers do not have a lot to give, probably a lot of future draft picks. But with KD wanting to get traded too, the Nets might consider future draft picks for their rebuilding.

They are now in serious discussion to trade with Kyrie and I think they can make this to happen as they want to pass up what they think a problem on their teams. Although this talks will not get any assurance but I believe they will make this thing to happen as Lakers and Nets is running out of time on their free agency. We don't know if Durant will be happy with this trade because it looks like he will play again and if I'm not wrong they don't have good relationship to each other.

So if Irving will be traded, will it be in exchange for Westbrook? If that will happen, then the old teammates will be playing again, Lebron +Irving, and Durant + Westbrook.  I can't imagine this to happen, I'm thinking maybe the trade is good if Nets will get Davis in exchange of Irving.

Yes that's what it looks like if the trade will happen and I doubt Lakers will use Davis for this trade because they are targeting to eliminate westbrook on their rooster. And I doubt Durant would love the idea to play again with Westbrook that's why he's asking for a trade and want to get out on Nets.

Curious to know what will happen next.
2310  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: How I Almost Gave Scammers Access To My wallet This Morning. on: July 08, 2022, 11:59:13 PM
Connecting our wallets from unknown platform telling that they will give airdrops will put us in huge risk that's why if we are not sure on things we do especially upon participating an airdrop we should do what other say to use dummy wallets intended for airdrops because if hackers get your access they cannot get anything from your wallet. Also we should not participate on any random obvious scam which team members hidden and roadmaps or whitepaper are so questionable nor plagiarized.
2311  Economy / Gambling / Re: Moonbet - Become the Owner of a Crypto Sportsbook & Casino on: July 08, 2022, 11:18:56 PM
Investing in bitcoin is equivalent to playing in a casino and investing everything you got.

No, never and never, that doesn't work like that, you have to do a very deep investigation so that you can understand what it means to have Bitcoin in investment or go to a casino to spend 1 bitcoin, I don't think that you are going to risk a lot of money so quick, you're wrong in what you say, you can bet an investment but not make such a bad comparison. Playing and having fun is one thing, but taking gambling as an investment is a mistake.


He's must be new to bitcoin that's why he didn't understand what he's saying and I don't think he just want to compare both but rather want to promote the site he link us here that's why I don't find any weight on his statement because what I saw there is he just want to promote a platform. For people who knew about it for sure we can say that its wrong comparison because sometimes many people taught that buying bitcoin is a gamble.
2312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: WHY is Terra pumping ? on: July 08, 2022, 09:50:43 PM
Luna is now like a shitcoin it can pump and dump whenever it wants without having to rely on any news from its development. Everyone is investing with luna just trying to speculate to make some profit, no one holds this dead coin anymore. yes it is pumping but beware it will dump soon after.

This project has collapsed so badly that it will not be easy to regain faith no matter how hard they try. Because Luna 2 has been struggling and dumping since it came on the market. It seems to me that it would not be right to expect anything more from this project, so leaving it would be the right decision.

Already this luna has caused huge losses to many investors, so the focus should be on other solid projects rather than increasing the risk by investing more in this project.

So many times investors got squeeze by this coin and I also believe that many investors lost their trust on this project and the only remaining there are those people who ride with the news which want to manipulate the terra market to gain. For new investors its better not to trust then because joining the hype will not make any sense as they will just lose their money with that coin.
2313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 08, 2022, 12:04:00 PM
There is still a long time for the 2022-23 season to start. It is going to be underway on October 18, 2022. Lakers have a long time period ahead to think about the new team composition that they should be building for next season. Their lineup was really inadequate last season and Lebron had to do all the work. This caused them to have a poor season and say goodbye to the playoff round before even it started. Lebron must be waiting for proper trades to be motivated to continue playing for them.

Well, time is gold for the Lakers if they are serious in planning to get key players for the next season. They might lose their targeted players to other teams.

I do believe that it is just hard to trade Westbrick's $47 million salary. And the Lakers do not have a lot to give, probably a lot of future draft picks. But with KD wanting to get traded too, the Nets might consider future draft picks for their rebuilding.

They are now in serious discussion to trade with Kyrie and I think they can make this to happen as they want to pass up what they think a problem on their teams. Although this talks will not get any assurance but I believe they will make this thing to happen as Lakers and Nets is running out of time on their free agency. We don't know if Durant will be happy with this trade because it looks like he will play again and if I'm not wrong they don't have good relationship to each other.
2314  Economy / Economics / Re: Unemplyment at least 50% how world will look like then ? on: July 07, 2022, 11:18:24 PM

Unemployment is something a very long time problem on some countries because it does really vary on how the government do really make out solutions and steps in fighting
or trying to neutralize it or at least resolving it.This do actually depends on certain country conditions.
With every passing year there are more resources coming. Even at this time - when everyone has smart phone and people can earn and learn by sitting at home. If someone is unemployed - it is their fault. Not the government and not anyone else's. Find ways to learn and earn through freelancing.

Agree with this since even if the government take action towards unemployment but if the person is not willing to help his self then we cannot do anything to ease their suffering. Also its up to the person on how they take the opportunities since actually they can create their own jobs like selling good which is famous right now due to social media or look where the demand is since there are some services needed on your community and you can earn by giving a solution like becoming a delivery rider or other more than that.
2315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: July 07, 2022, 10:32:32 PM
It will.
And it lies down to how they'll choose them. It's hard to think about it if you're just a citizen of a country and you have a bias against the current government and administration.
That's why if I'm in a country that's about to do this. I'll just let them do it but it should be on the right process and protocol of what's said in the law.
They will be able to choose well because the selection process will be strict to ensure everything goes the way they want. We as citizens may also be able to register to help them but still have to undergo a predetermined procedure. The government will also follow the processes and protocols they have created and will not try to violate them, especially if they have officers who are clean from corruption.
We can but on this part, I'll just let them do their own thing and they won't allow anyone from thincitizens to intervene on that decision.
This is an appointment to one that the higher official knows who can do the job better and we will just be observers. And at the same time, a government owned online casino will possibly be hard to be bankrupt because it's supported by the government. And that's why many gamblers would come and go there because of that assurance.

Assurance is great option to take and eventhough we will not become anonymous but still if we think deeply we can assure safety here. What disadvantage we can possibly get is the taxation of our winnings if we win big but I think this is fine as long as we will not get head ache upon winning our winning chip to them.
2316  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎥 YouTube Overview event for $10 000|🚀 BFG Listing Anniversary on: July 07, 2022, 10:45:28 AM
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I don’t think buy BFG token for trading is good decision. you can buy BFG for play casino and use another services from Betfury platform for just for fun . or if you play game with another currency on betfury website you will get BFG token freely as bonus. so , i don’t think it will better to invest in BFG token for earning money

Why will you buy BFG tokens if your intention is just for fun alone? You will pay transaction fee when converting your BNB to BFG instead of directly playing using your BNB to avoid extra fees. BFG tokens is a utility token of the casino so you can invest on Betfury success by buying since they are burning token supply using part of Betfury profit so it means that price will grow overtime due to decreasing supply.

Other utility of BFG tokens is really for betting purposes but it’s not limited on that feature because use it on staking and farming too.


If I want to buy BFG and stake it to earn dividends, I would spend less money than earning token from playing in-house games and slots. Well, there's a chance you could get lucky and win more from gambling than what staking could give but what are the odds?

Well even though there's a high chance to you can earn more BFG by playing still you will get a risk to lose all what you have if you are unlucky or made certain mistake upon gambling and if you are risk taker which can afford to take such thing then its good to roll up then try to earn as many as you can, but for people who want to play safe then staking will be a good option to them because they are earning BFG tokens at low risk.
2317  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Learning from the dip on: July 06, 2022, 09:58:52 PM
Most go any length to get money to buy from this dip out of the fear of missing out. This make some to borrow money to invest which can be risky.
In cryto it is not even encouraging to invest with all the savings. If investing with all the savings one has is not good idea, I consider borrowing money to make invest should never be a plan to go about investment.

It's really not a good idea to have to use all the savings to get into crypto, if only some it might not be a problem to catch lower prices.
But if you have to use a loan to invest it will only add to the problem and add to the burden. Using a loan as capital must think about what payments will be used. there is no guarantee after using the loan the price will quickly rise, while the interest on the loan will continue to grow.

That's why its never good to use a capital came from that and much better if we just settle on the amount what we can afford to lose since eventhough we are in bad position still we will not get pressured by turn of events especially when we see market dumping for more. Maybe its best if he do cut loss and buy again since this is much ideal option to do.
2318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 06, 2022, 12:08:18 PM
For sure they will never try to get durant back as the Nets ask those young guys of Warriors which can help then in future, If they trade them for Durant its like they are risking their future to a injury prone guy and proven that he can't lift a team so its good that they retain their young core and develop more other rookies rather than breaking it and get a problem which they already get rid.

No worries, that's unlikely won't happen. Just imagined how much the Warriors will spend to get Durant to re-sign to them. Not a good idea to get Durant involved in their Championship lineup. It's not that they don't need Durant, but salary-cap wisely, there's no need to spend more for another superstar.

They can use their remaining cap to acquire role players that can improve their second squad.

Lots of good prospects at the free agency that they can target instead of getting Kevin Durant's service that's now entering his post-prime period.

They are risking their future for doing this and this will be the dumbest decision they will ever take if they really want this to happen. But for sure the Warriors management most likely doesn't want this to happen since Curry,Thompson and Green's prime is near to end as they already old so most provably Warriors will invest to their young guys knowing their new guys have great potential to be their future stars.
2319  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔮 Futuur - Predict the Future! 🔮 on: July 06, 2022, 10:50:57 AM
Yes, promoting using a signature campaign can give them a chance to have the kind of success that other casinos have achieved. But maybe they need some time because it's not easy to run promotions to mark their comeback in competing with other casinos. The competition is getting tougher because now many new casinos have been launched.
It depends on how you run a signature campaign. How long? How many participants? How many post totally each week? How about quality of participant posts? Quality and longevity of signature campaign are very important to decide what effects it can bring to a company. If a signature contains new products, new features, big events that are interesting with gamblers, they will join, rejoin and bet more. Company will have more income from signature campaign and can reuse it for the campaign, keep it running longer.
That would be a great way to promote a new product or whatever they are planning to get the users' attention on this forum. As for the longevity of the signature, the campaign will depend on how much they allocate funds for the campaign because the longer they run the campaign, the bigger the expenditure will be. But if they can get a lot of members and most of them are gambling on Futuur, the profit potential will also be even greater.
Of course, any advertising company allows you to expand the audience that is aware of the project and, accordingly, increases the number of players in this casino. 
However, I think that Futuur's specifics - long-term disputes - will not allow them to increase their budget quickly enough.  So to increase the budget of the team and the Futuur casino itself, so that the devs could launch the signature company for a long time - a year, two or more. 
But, of course, I'll be happy for the devs if they can still run such an advertising campaign. 

Let's wish the devs good luck in developing their unique project!

The budget they can use will always depends on how big the profits they get over the years of their operation. If they didn't earn decent profit to cover up the marketing cost if they plan to do this well maybe we can see the same scenario on what they do last time when they run a signature campaign. But if they cannot afford to spend a lot of money with this maybe they should put a huge amount of money as prize in competitions for sure aside marketing banners this is also effective stuff to have by a gambling site to gain traffics.
2320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will DOGE go back to sub $0.01 prices ever again? on: July 05, 2022, 11:44:11 PM
The market has been on a downtrend for quite a while now. Bitcoin, as well as other cryptocurrencies have seen their value wiped out within a matter of days. Investors are quite disappointed with how prices are falling at a fast pace. Some are beginning to believe crypto is dead (which we know that's not the case), while others see this as a huge buying opportunity to buy lots of coins at a discount.

One of the coins that was severely affected is Dogecoin. The "meme" cryptocurrency has seen its price up go mainly because of Elon Musk hyping it across social media platforms. But right after the Terra/LUNA and Celsius scandal happened, things have changed. Elon Musk has been silent (as far as I'm aware) for quite a while. Without someone to "pump" Dogecoin, prices will continue to decline like there's no tomorrow. The coin is changing hands at around $0.05 (at the time of this writing), but it could fall lower if BTC dives lower in price.

I'm wondering if DOGE will go back to sub $0.01 prices ever again? If it never does, will that mean DOGE will someday go all the way to $0.50 per coin? I'd like to know your thoughts about this. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Smiley
Depends if Elon Musk will hype it up again since for sure we can see that to happen.

But if not? Well maybe we can see the same as before that Doge will became stable and take long years sleeping without getting any huge movement at all. But let see maybe the next bull run will tell everything on it since if we cannot see any constant changes even if there's a huge bull run will happen on bitcoin then this will close all the question about it.
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