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2301  Economy / Economics / Re: The lending problem on: August 30, 2021, 01:29:53 PM
How is this problem addressed currently and how could it be solved at large scale without a "bank" of shorts?

There is no problem because human society will always operate on trust and server/client relationship. You can't turn everything into a decentralized network and doing so is often counterproductive. Bitcoin works by having every node store all transactions ever made, so its capacity is very limited. Torrenting networks suffer from the problem where rarely-accessed files can't be downloaded until someone who has them decides to seed them. Point is, decentralized is not automatically better.

The idea that everything should be decentralized is just a hype created by crypto bros who sell shitcoins and "blockchain technology".
2302  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Think twice before making a post on: August 30, 2021, 12:59:29 PM
To be honest we might reduce creating thousands of new topics just using the search feature of the forum. But sadly newbies even a few old users don't like to use that feature.

This happens on every internet forum out there, but usually the moderators are quick to remove such posts and direct the creator to FAQ or the answer to their post. But sadly on this forum this is a rarity and repetitive posts with very common questions tend to just float here and contribute to the reduction of quality of certain boards, like Bitcoin Discussion, for example.
2303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Compound Interest on: August 30, 2021, 12:42:51 PM
In 2010 people bought 1 bitcoin at $1, and today it worths 38,000 dollars per one.

And people who bought Facebook, Google or Apple stock could have turned $10 into many thousands too. Or people who bought a lottery ticket with the right number could have turned a couple of dollars into millions. Hindsight is 20/20, you can't use it to justify future performance.

Nobody talks about the 2008 market crash that rendered a lot of people beyond brokenness. Bitcoin has saved the world from the hands of financial firms that use Compound interest to scam investors. People should see the light and utilize it.

People on this forum talk every day how Bitcoin has saved or changed the world, yet Bitcoin has very little level of adoption with majority of society not knowing or not caring about it.
2304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Seriously. How much market cap can Bitcoin absorb from other assets? on: August 29, 2021, 06:30:32 PM
I think the vast majority of us on this forum would agree that Bitcoin is better than gold as a store of value and that it would make sense to absorb its market cap. If we have Bitcoin with a market cap of about $1T and gold with a market cap of about $11T, we see it quite likely that Bitcoin in the not too distant future will have a $10T market cap and gold $2T. This would leave us with a price of $0.5M per Bitcoin.

If the price of Bitcoin was decided on this forum, it would already be many millions. But it doesn't matter what people think here in grand scheme of things, you can forget about seeing Bitcoin flip gold until most of global investors view Bitcoin as better than gold. And currently this sentiment is very low, and rightfully so, gold has been the store of value for thousands of years, and Bitcoin has still to prove itself to many people.
2305  Economy / Economics / Re: Bullish or nuts? Fidelity predicts $100M bitcoin in 2035 on: August 29, 2021, 06:21:58 PM
I don't think it's nuts or bullish, I think Fidelity just has a huge interest in seeing more Bitcoin investing happening, and what better way to promote it than to predict a huge price rise? People who hold Bitcoin or otherwise has some interest in it will always be bullish, otherwise it wouldn't make sense for them to do so.
2306  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Bull Attempts to Break $50,000 - A Psychological Hurdle as well as The Next on: August 28, 2021, 11:38:28 PM
The recent chart looks to me like a smaller version of the $30k to $64k movement - first it started very fast but then slowed down and after that came a crash. I will not be surprised if a crash will come soon. Both charts mean that after a resistance was failed to be broken after a few tries and bullish momentum was lost, investors start to take profits because they don't see a potential for upside in short term.
2307  Economy / Economics / Re: What could make a hacker return stolen $600m crypto on: August 28, 2021, 11:16:48 PM
He very likely wouldn't be able to use all the stolen money because it would be impossible to launder them all. Also there's nothing wrong with not wanting to have $600m, plenty of people have lower needs so it's not worth the headache. And the hacker is probably already doing quite well financially, so why should he risk punishment for money that he doesn't really need?
2308  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: best crypto venture for beginers on: August 28, 2021, 10:51:46 PM
I created this thread for discussion and suggestions.

Haven’t experience over the years the challenges faced by newcomers in understanding what it entails in cryptocurrency ventures such as trading, mining, staking and defi farming, with so many newcomers not really understanding of what it takes to venture into this different cryptocurrency aspect that maximize it full potentials. many newbies end up losing their resources in the curse of these activities because of lack of knowledge because of greed and quest to get rich quick through cryptocurrency without knowing the risk involved.

what are your suggestion and guides for new investors in our midst?

Those things lead to losses not just simply because newbies lack knowledge, they are inherently high risk activities so even with experience it's easy to lose money. Just buying and holding Bitcoin is enough to make very decent profits, why be greedy and gamble with DeFi when the chance of losing everything is quite high?
2309  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin possibly become the Skynet of human civilization? on: August 28, 2021, 10:42:20 AM
The conclusion can be safely drawn that Bitcoin network has become the most powerful network system in the world. At present, countless miners in the world are running hundreds of thousands of Bitcoin mining machines to ceaselessly support the stable operation of Bitcoin network, generating untold data for the recording of economic behavior of human beings every moment. These data are the most valuable asset. I believe with the help of these economic data, Bitcoin network will surely evolve into the Skynet and become the anchor of the entire human civilization.

Bitcoin is the most powerful network in the world for calculating SHA-256 hashes. Aside from that, it's just some dozens or hundreds of thousands of regular home computers. This is hardly "the most powerful network in the world" If you believe that it's enough to form Skynet, then maybe you should be worried about filesharing networks or online games.
2310  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Jack of all crypto, master of none on: August 28, 2021, 10:28:58 AM
There's a lot of lessons you can learn from that post, like "don't trade with leverage and don't daytrade if you're a beginner".

This. And more importantly, stop taking unnecessarily dumb bets in the first place while risking your life savings. It's crazy how things like this have to be said and isn't common sense. And equally as worse, some people think taking these huge dumb risky bets is their only way out of a shitty life. Desperation surely can make people do dumb things.

It seems to be very common for newbies who invest in a bull market to think that their quick (and often unrealized) profits are sign that they are very talented traders, so they start getting more and more reckless and eventually lose most or all of their gains and then some.
2311  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Jack of all crypto, master of none on: August 27, 2021, 11:57:32 PM
There's a lot of lessons you can learn from that post, like "don't trade with leverage and don't daytrade if you're a beginner". But another big one is the importance of not getting instantly hyped by social media. The OP describes how he got sucked into trading by watching youtube videos that got recommended to him and how Michael Saylor's 100k predictions got him hyped. This is dangerous because being emotional and over excited leads to breaking the main rule of investing - don't invest more than you can afford to lose.
2312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Regulators are on next level desperate on Bitcoin and the cryptospace on: August 27, 2021, 11:49:05 PM
I believe it’s they’re choice whether to comply, or not. But shower thought, what would the use of Proof of Work be if your business needs the government’s “green light”/permission before it can start using Bitcoin? Then maybe your business truly has no need for Bitcoin?


There is no choice, their either comply or get fined and shut down.

Companies might have many reasons to adopt Bitcoin payments, not necessarily because they hate banks and centralized payment systems. I don't think we should gatekeep Bitcoin by saying that "only true cypherpunk anarchists deserve to use Bitcoin". If so, you will never see mainstream adoption.
2313  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will bitcoin end ? on: August 27, 2021, 06:50:12 AM
Since Bitcoin has fixed maximum supply, you can expect that its price will keep growing for as long as it exists. But Bitcoin will likely disappear at some point or will become just a historical artifact, so between now and that point there will be a price that will be truly ATH. But no one can predict when this will happen and what will be the price, humans are very bad at looking into the future, they can't even reliably predict what will happen in a year or two, and very rarely someone successfully predicts what will happen in 10 or 20 years, but as for future of Bitcoin, we're talking about hundreds or thousands of years.
2314  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Regulators are on next level desperate on Bitcoin and the cryptospace on: August 26, 2021, 08:36:14 AM
He's correct in both statements. Without government greenlighting crypto, it won't get adopted by businesses, so it could only be used in informal p2p economy, which is only a small part of economy. He's also correct that a lot of DeFi is centralized, and if they are centralized, than what makes them different from centralized exchanges? If not much, then regulations could help reduce scams. 


Laughable, and stupid to say it like that. Businesses, and companies that need a “green light” to adopt Bitcoin, or “crypto”, should not be in the business of adopting Bitcoin or crypto. You’re allowing the government to censor you from using something permissionless and censorship-resistant?

So all the big and medium businesses should forget about accepting Bitcoin? Then how you expect to see any sort of meaningful Bitcoin adoption? People want payment methods that are universally accepted. People love Visa and Mastercard cards because you can pay with them everywhere. Why would people adopt Bitcoin if you can only make some p2p purchases with it or spend it with small businesses only (which is even now not a reality).
2315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did I do the right thing? I bought shares of MicroStrategy. on: August 24, 2021, 11:05:45 PM
What if MicroStrategy will tomorrow announce that they decided to dump Bitcoin and invest in some shitcoin instead? There's many examples of a change of heart in crypto industry, latest being Tesla, before that there were people like Roger Ver who were once huge Bitcoin proponents but later turned into enemies.

If you want to have something with performance tied to Bitcoin but with more profit/risk, why not just buy leveraged Bitcoin?
2316  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there a possibility of a Country to ban access to Crypto games? on: August 24, 2021, 09:58:43 PM
They can order ISPs to block the game's website if there is such. But these days everyone knows how to bypass such bans with a VPN. But if people convert their crypto gains through centralized exchanges, the government might have a chance to tax people. because centralized exchanges do KYC and might be forced to report on their user's trading activities.
2317  Other / Archival / Re: Few Tips For Crypto Beginners on: August 24, 2021, 09:48:26 PM
- The best way to make money on cryptocurrency is holding. Open the historical data of any well-known cryptocurrency and you will be surprised at how many times it has grown over the past 3 years. In general, what's the point of trading when the cryptocurrency grows many times every 4 years. Those who realized this in 2017 bought cheap coins and just waited. Waited for the start of a new bull run. It should be understood that no trading strategy in terms of the degree of return will compete with long-distance investment. Investing for a period of 2-4 years gives simply stunning results.

If you open historical data on altcoins and switch to their Bitcoin price, you will see a different picture.

ETH had an ATH of 0.145 BTC, currently it's 50% below that. There were many months in 2017 and 2018 when it was above the current price in BTC, so if you invested in ETH with Bitcoin and hodled to this day, you'd still be at a loss.

Cardano's Bitcoin ATH of 2018 still not suprassed even with recent rise.

XRP is 10 times below its ATH in Bitcoin now.

DOGE is far above its previous Bitcoin price levels even after the crash.

Litecoin has been consistently declining in its BTC price since it's creation and it's currently at all time low.

BCH is same story but with faster decline and shorter period.

As you can see, even if you hodl top altcoins, you will most likely lose money after some years.
2318  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin fans have developed into a political force. Is this the dawn of victory? on: August 24, 2021, 09:01:37 PM
Good luck forming a political force when there's some 50 million people worldwide. It will be a bigger failure than all those internet parties or piracy parties. Best you can hope is some Bitcoin lobbyism coming from big companies that now have a skin in the game. Even then it's a big question if they would be able to successfully resist all hostile regulations and how far they would be able to go in defending Bitcoin, or to be more precise their interests in Bitcoin, which are not always the same as community interests.
2319  Economy / Economics / Re: Enjoy comunism (III) rats eating dead people and people eating rats in NK on: August 24, 2021, 08:09:50 PM
As long as the regime is able to keep the population terrified, they will be able to enslave them. But at one point, the threshold of tolerance will snap and there will be a mass uprising. And this has happened in other countries as well (Lithuania, Poland.etc). And in all probability, Kim Jong Un will face the fate of other dictators, such as Saddam Hussain, Muammar Gaddafi and Nicolae Ceaușescu. Even in Cuba and Venezuela, now the population is rioting against the communist regimes. You can't rule with muscle-power forever.

It's actually not about the people snapping, it's about the government becoming weaker and allowing them. The North Korean regime exists for more than 70 years without any slightest attempts of insurrection. You can't organize any resistance when one part of the population is scared and the other is devoted to the government, and everything is so tightly controlled that the flow of information/money/weapons is impossible. North Korea is just a large high security prison, and for it to collapse it would need to become a low security prison first.
2320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Regulators are on next level desperate on Bitcoin and the cryptospace on: August 24, 2021, 06:24:46 PM
He's correct in both statements. Without government greenlighting crypto, it won't get adopted by businesses, so it could only be used in informal p2p economy, which is only a small part of economy. He's also correct that a lot of DeFi is centralized, and if they are centralized, than what makes them different from centralized exchanges? If not much, then regulations could help reduce scams. 
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