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2321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 16, 2022, 11:58:18 PM
The org has a focus on how to make money and to invest into buying and maintaining SA teams has to be much cheaper then NA.  If they can play just as well or at least gain many positions in order to improve value then any org has to be tempted to take that opportunity.  Ultimately they go where the best returns vs risk is and some places you can pay alot of money and the team falls apart because of egos, Esports is high risk imo because of that and many reasons.

I think the rise of Outsiders like this is very ironic, perhaps being cast out as it were and 'oppressed' almost literally as per their name; this helped unite and give them a greater fight when others would have slipped.  It only takes a map, slight mistakes and you lose the series maybe come 4th not 1st with a fairly massive cash difference.
2322  Economy / Speculation / Re: The most stupid dip in Bitcoin's history - and why we can be happy now on: November 16, 2022, 09:57:05 PM
Binance couldnt buy FTX as I understand it, it would have brought too many problems with it and also greater scrutiny for a very large market share.   Perhaps slightly comparable to Lehmans which in theory could have been bought out a couple times over but was denied over various arguments.     Its a test like all others, the price being higher comes with main market involvement which quite a few years back now we didnt have, simpler times.
  I think some would have preferred we never got all these larger funds with their big foot steps treading all over the place.  It goes with the price, the interference and big news events so we dont get to step away and argue against it now as its part of the price gain that comes with a wider broader population of users.


I wonder if we have resolved this recent action upwards, momentum wise we are trading below almost all the moving averages so it cant be called positive.  However we do have a higher low
2323  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 16, 2022, 07:29:38 PM
How can it be free money, if the match is biased then so will the bets and odds be which means you must risk alot to gain a smaller amount.   I prefer the upset type outcomes or where people are overly emotional in a match that can easily go either way then you may not know the result but the odds can be attractive vs the risk and it pays off on average returns.

I dont think the Spin prizes go down till well into the 30's 
2324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's on! 2024 US Presidential Election Biden+Harris Vs Trump Bitcoin betting.... on: November 16, 2022, 08:29:54 AM
Why did people ever think Biden will stand down, because of age but the whole country has a bias towards older age groups so he is perfectly representative.   Its never down to one person to lift the whole burden of the administration anyway only direct which despite criticism he is still able, I dont even agree with half what he chooses to do but I believe its still his own decision to do so.   The whole stand down thing, never was credible imo though I guess it weighed in with enough people to matter.


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The Don reclaim the crown?

Its not likely without regaining the diversity of returns across the whole electoral collage, due to the whole inflation dynamic it cant be ruled out.  Personally I dont think he makes the nomination, Bush Snr. didnt run again did he so who has and won?
2325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A disheartening true life winning story on: November 15, 2022, 11:12:26 PM
Strange case, he needs a specialist lawyer who might argue the fine detail on this one but extreme wins can upset the expected cash flow in a game which is a problem for any operation.  Not sure why it would be his fault at all or allowable by the rules and conditions of the game but also its hard to argue as just one voice.  It could be more complicated then it appears, I would not have the guts and would have given into the offers but also I would not play there or maybe anywhere for that game again tbh.
2326  Economy / Speculation / Re: I hope this Bitcoin dip won't be deeper? on: November 15, 2022, 10:12:10 PM
Higher low across a couple days gives some hope of building a recovery here.  I still imagine price action explores the entire available area but its also possible the low is formed as a good one and feared effects by the market of recent events proves unfounded hence we build upwards from here.  Much left to prove that this isnt just a speculative or trading move.
2327  Economy / Economics / Re: caveat emptor. on: November 14, 2022, 11:31:29 PM
So long as people know what they are buying and all those details are true and verified, that would superior to alot of places.  I've heard of worse behavior with fraudulent and impossible promises made to vulnerable consumers not even those who trade and from listed banks operating for a hundred years, caveat emptor.   You arent wrong but the risk in any investment is with the person making it not to be censored absolutely, correctly labelled and explained sure.
2328  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2022, 11:18:47 PM
Only a person with no significant btc, like yourself,  would love it.
That, and you're are pulling your numbers out of air.
Why 90% and not 89 or 95%?


Theres no absolute truth in traded prices especially during excessive volatility.   I think the point you might have missed there is referring to a spike or flash sale, a very low register for BTC which was not actually correct.  It usually would mark a bottom, clear the short orders out and those who had been negative, a V bottom whatever you want to call it.

  Some prices end up just traded wrongly, a fat finger order or whatever but not all prices are equally valid and perfectly defined at that time.  In BTC market especially there must always be a quoted price every day of the year and at every hour it can mean markets guess incorrectly & I think this can apply on every time scale to some extent.   Most easily observable during major holiday when the price can wander in either direction and become incorrect relative to the wider market as some participants who would trade arent there.  I wouldnt argue about it especially but its known phenomena so far as I know, any price at all can register for a moment in extremis no matter how silly

2329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Generational Buying Period is On-Going on: November 14, 2022, 09:24:33 PM
I tend to agree, I have a few accounts where the balance is dollars but the withdrawal will be in BTC which means the price going down gives me more BTC.  I'm inclined to stop my hesitation and just withdraw in this area of pricing not that I know the bottom price exactly just that its nearing very close to the right area for a longer term bottom.  The depths of price action are always lower then people expected because to consider this point you must look back many years as well as forward so its a balance of the two and this is very probably a pivotal area of pricing.
2330  Economy / Speculation / Re: I hope this Bitcoin dip won't be deeper? on: November 14, 2022, 08:18:48 PM
Is it the worst percentage pullback, I would figure volatility of BTC is still declining long term as it matures.   This is bad timing in the BTC cycle as we have many disruptive events and the rise of US Dollar index is higher then any other time since the start of BTC blockchain, my judgement relative to that it has fared well despite the pullback.
   I dont know about the depth of the dip exactly but the course of price action exploration is not over, this whole range of prices maybe as far as 10k to 20k has to go ahead.   New support must be established, then tested then we might get a rise and since June a few attempts have been in construction only to fail.  Once more price must rebuild itself relative to the wider world and it'll be some time to do so.
2331  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun | Live tables | Baccarat |Slots| InstantWithraw on: November 14, 2022, 08:13:05 PM
8 new players out 10 could just indicate alot of growth occurring, its open to speculation whether its a good thing or not.   The casino operators themselves would surely determine the revenue is satisfactory or not, margin returns etc.   Any loyalty bonuses surely have to be justified in the extra revenue they might raise, ultimately the company has to take the course which sees the best long term returns thats how it goes in any business.
2332  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BREAKING: BINANCE STOPS WITHDRAWALS on: November 14, 2022, 12:00:06 AM
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People these days don't validate a news and only looks at the headline.
More reaction then processing and discovery, its more exciting to be part of then read full quite lengthy articles but also it makes for an echo chamber and nonsense.


The ability for random tweets to bring bad news, falsely is not good.  Sad that its so easy to appear legitimate on a fast moving platform like twitter, that tactic of misinformation is actually working too often.   Musk is made out to be an idiot or worse but hopefully he just got off to a bad start and can improve matters quite easily.  So far he has proven he needs to test ideas more, assume the worst and people will always take advantage of weakness in any system.
2333  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can my FTX short position make a recovery? on: November 13, 2022, 11:41:46 PM
3x short means you have to be correct today or near term and so that was extra risky to do so.  There is actually a negative to the daily pattern in a triangle price action but cant be sure it breaks downwards right nowm, I do think we have a probable established range and we are close to the top of that.   If we do fail to break back into prices in the 20's and latest event news suggests excess liquidity, then price is likely to be neutral at best and can lose double percentage figures on little effort..
2334  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 13, 2022, 10:32:39 PM
Dont have to get into hundreds, even 20k tickets would require a lucky win of about 1 in 10,000 odds to play out.    Anything less then that can only be an unexpected event because for a weekly lottery 10k weeks is 192 years, its not very likely to ever occur.  However many people have similar amounts hence someone wins with that holding from the overall group.


I like the idea of utilizing tokens into a sports bet book, I want to try that out at some point.   I have done lay betting previously not for some years but can be a good deal on some (popular) outlier bets.

Im going with a negative bias for the various prices to end November with as a bet, I'll layer it in but I think its a case of the train tracks are snowed in and we spend some time shoveling **** out the way before path upwards is especially clear to proceed.
2335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your opinion on casinos that don't have ANN threads in the forum? on: November 13, 2022, 04:19:57 PM
I can understand a site prefers to deal with enquiries in-house and in private but its probably a positive overall to have open discussion of any larger site.   The smaller sites wont have spare staff to monitor a forum thread perhaps or might contest this particular forum is the automatic place for discussion particularly, especially recent operations or ones based away from BTC might not respect the origins of this site as requiring a presence.
  Most of us here would come to the same conclusion its better to have a thread because its free publicity and only a bad operation would especially fear discussion, I think a few operations take a while to decide that.
2336  Economy / Economics / Re: Want to live in a van down by the river? Ford has a new vehicle for that on: November 12, 2022, 11:58:27 PM
Anything this expensive should have some future proof design to its maintenance to justify the price.  Something like clever use of solar panels, regenerative braking and battery storage of energy could be justified and make it more carbon neutral.  Im aware anyone that rich to buy this new may not care but it would make for clever design to balance the cost of making with lower cost of running.
  I totally agree that the high cost of living and location in some areas to the land cost, taxes etc.  can almost make this vehicle the sensible choice which is amazing but very possibly true; part of that reasoning would come down to durability but also running costs, ease of use etc.    Some parts of the USA have very cheap power, others much less so hence I think it could be smart for it to be independent in that way in any way possible  I'd love to have one but I have no problem sleeping anywhere really so long as Im tired, others cant use a vehicle like this.
2337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 12, 2022, 10:48:03 PM
My only sensible take for the Furia phenomena is to bet 3 maps because Heroic can surely put up enough resistance for that as can Furia and I think whoever wins does not do so easily.
  I'll keep the game on in mobile and hop in for a Furia bet if they lose map like what happened with vs Navi but so far both teams are being competitive imo.
2338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revenge on: November 12, 2022, 10:42:57 PM
Never bet in anger, you need a better strategy to balance between your wins and losses but this path you take to reattempt the game win is a path commonly taken by many others before you and it does not lead to a good place in the experience of the majority of us.
  I would advise you to only play a set amount of cash per day, pre allocated and take your fortune as you find; it if luck does not find you that day accept your fate.  Attempt to handle your losses and mood for that as well as you do the winnings, its not easy but you will be stronger for it (and more likely to win overall imo).
2339  Economy / Speculation / Re: what caused the bitcoin price to drop today? on: November 12, 2022, 08:42:20 PM
We have a triangle formation on the daily bars since that initial drop, recovered in price but then also adjustment down to a finer sideways movement in the last couple days.   Probably we end the weekly bar on this state and we have to see how the momentum long term reflects ongoing prospects.  My expectation is volume must be built in the teens as a platform for future gains,  that'll take months to do.

We are below weekly and 2 day average now, thats pressure downwards then I presume.   Probably we dont get a better view till about Tuesday at earliest.
2340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 12, 2022, 08:33:06 PM
Furia swinging that win is kinda incredible, when they lost the first map but just barely I put on a bet at 4.5x odds for them to win.  I take no credit, I was just hedging my other bet for Navi but at those odds despite being wrong elsewhere I broke even but they surprised many people there.   Partly its down to Navi not quite being 100% understandably and also Furia outperforming on home turf.

Outsiders to take this win I think is a fair bet
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