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2321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: WE NEED A HALL OF FAME? on: May 14, 2022, 07:46:23 PM
I think this was a nice idea. But I doubt if it could be at all. This work will be difficult to complete.  In order to do this, big people have to agree. Not everyone can do it.  Because how do you know who has won? But Anyway, I like the idea.
What is difficult with this? They can just make a thread like this one here and maybe add some voting or poll in it. Users can then place their votes if they are too lazy enough to post a reply if which candidate they think fit for the position.

It is okay if not all will do it, no one is forced in this idea anyway but those who join means that they care a lot in the important things that are happening in this forum and they also have a good interest in gambling. To know who had won is easy and it can be done automatically, thanks to the help of the poll system of the forum. In addition to that, we can manually write down the replies of each users that participate.
2322  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to unemployment: creating new jobs or early retirement on: May 14, 2022, 07:11:00 PM
There needs to be a business to be able to open up jobs which is not as easy as we think,
I think all parties are needed in this case, especially as you said that the government's role is very necessary and really important,
especially in 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic it was really like a nightmare for company employees because many of them were laid off
It is hard but we have no choice but to accept it. Health is still more important anyway because if you got covid, you will suffer a lot in terms of financial and the way how you live. Besides, the company that laid you off are also willing to help you out by giving you relief goods and extra cash.

Governments are also doing the same thing, they gave stimulus checks during the peak of the pandemic and it was a nice amount of money. The role of the government to a country or to its people is very important. They have a great power so their responsibility is also great but sometimes governments are too selfish and corrupt. This makes the country/people suffer.
2323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: sports betting sites that return your money when you lose. on: May 14, 2022, 06:32:30 PM
This is the confirmation bias at work, when people are looking for something in particular they tend to disregard any information that contradicts their worldview and only accept the information that confirms it, so if someone is looking for a way to make money at a casino and they find something like this they tend to believe in it, and that is how they get scammed, only those that can avoid falling victims of such biases can think clearly enough to know that a casino that returns all your money after you lose is simply not possible.
They think that someone that contradicts it are anti gambling and only wants to stop them to becoming hook in gambling so they just ignored it easily.

There are also people that can say something bad to the other casino because they are being paid to do so or they simply owns a casino and they don't want a fair competition but whatever that arguments might be, we should always care to look at them because maybe what we found are different to what we expect and this can help us to stay away from the danger of being scammed. You know, online crypto casino is a booming business right now so expect that many scammers are also venturing this field. Let us try to be vigilant.
2324  Economy / Speculation / Re: Panic People Are Selling BTC And Buying inflationary Fiat For Safety But They on: May 14, 2022, 11:23:56 AM
you are ruining it for us Wink
we love it whenever the newbies with weak hands sell their share of this limited pie so that we can have more of it. you can never have more than 21 million bitcoins after all. let them sell for example 1 bitcoin at $30k and we will sell 0.01 of it back to them at $300k. lol
I do not think that these are just newbies that are selling, weak hands from every level are selling their coins these days. I have seen people get out 85k dollars out personally, of course there are many that take out millions of dollars as well but I have seen someone take out 85k from bitcoin and he made a ton of loss, he got in at around 44k dollars so that was a big fall for them.

This doesn't mean that newbies don't, they do get out as well but this is just beyond that now, this is reaching to a level where we are seeing people who have been in crypto for many years get out as well because they have never seen one coin screwing the market this much.
2325  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin continues to decline, what causes it? on: May 13, 2022, 09:09:48 PM
This kind of price drop is common in the crypto world because the price of crypto is also determined by supply and demand, and I think this sort of thing also happens in everything that has a price.
yes, one day market conditions will definitely recover and bitcoin or altcoins will touch ATH again. drastic price declines occurred in 2018 and most people thought that bitcoin would not reach ATH again, but what happened in 2021 was that bitcoin was able to reach much higher ATH than 2017. so there is no need to doubt, when the price of bitcoin drops drastically the thing we have to do is buy and hold.
Markets in stock world do have this kind of falls and people do not talk about that when crypto falls. I have seen plenty of people who complained about 2008 crash, or the crash in 2020 march as well due to pandemic. All of those crashed the markets, we lived through a horrible economical crisis for 2 years during pandemic period and we understood it because that happens, it's understandable.

However what we need to realize is that crypto drops too, and yet for some reason people are thinking that "it's all done, good bye, it's dying" suddenly just because it went low for a while, that's not really a big deal, it happens all the time and we should be fine about that too.
2326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 13, 2022, 08:23:27 PM
Real madrid boss, Carlo Ancelloti will play his key players in the finals, although they can still play league games in other to be fit for the finals. Los Blancos have more 2 games to played, it doesn't matter if they win or draw, what matters is that they have been crowned champions of Spain. Real Betis may be a threat to madrid in the game, perhaps they still needs to win real Betis to proof that they are ready for Liverpool. Carlo Ancelloti still uses his key players despite been crowned Laliga Champions, while for real Betis, they still need to struggle to equalize points with Athletico madrid to qualify for the Champions league.
I would guess that play the next one, rest the one after that and play the finals is the most efficient way but they know it better than I do so I can't say much. Players like rodrygo for example could play all three games and not be tired, he is like 21 years old or 22 if I am not wrong which means that they have the conditioning to play all games and not have any problems.

Whereas we are talking about other players who are older, like Benzema or Modric who are very old and they may need some rest. They can't get rusty that quickly I am sure, so even if they rest for both games, they could come back and play wonderful during the finals when they are needed.
2327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 13, 2022, 07:46:39 PM
Whit this change they were able to reach 5th-6th position in the last GP, imagine how big is not having a wall of hair in the front tires while everyone else got it.
If Miami is the only race they've had this new development, then it seems to have had zero positive effect. Fifth and sixth is not an improvement over any other race this season, most races they've been around there or a bit higher. After the final restart they were losing about a second a lap on the Ferrari and RB, which is in line with the rest of the season. It sounds as though if it gets banned, it won't make their car any worse.
Honestly, people expecting Mercedes to improve so much that they would be fighting for a title is wrong and will never be right. Mercedes realized that they are not going to be fighting for a title this year or if not they should realize it right now and put the money for the car next year. It's clear that Red Bull and Ferrari found the way and they are going to fight for it and will probably get it.

If Red Bull doesn't get any reliability issues and stop during the race, they will win most races and they will end up with the title again, this time around they will do it not just driver but also constructor as well. Hence why I believe it's not going to be that possible for Mercedes to win anything.
2328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Give Your Feedback About Bitcoin Today ? on: May 13, 2022, 07:11:33 PM
Just HODL , that is what i can say for everyone that have losing their faith towards Bitcoin.
Today Bitcoin is still reasonable. If you look at the post halving after ATH in 2017 even today's decline is not the same as that history. Even the decline after ATH reached about 70% more.  I think there is currently a strong support in the $29k area, and it is evident there is a price reversal. If the support is lost then maybe the Price of Bitcoin will reach the area of $25K and probably the worst to around the price of $22K. I think at the moment the market is still convinced of Bitcoin, there is no change to that. Even Bukele has the option of increasing Elsalvador Bitcoin by 500BTC. Then Microstrategy even prepares a move to anticipate their margin call.
I am pretty sure that it was over 80% for sure. The peak was around 20k, and the bottom was around 3.4k, calculate how much that makes. It comes down to something closer to 83% drop between the difference of the peak and the bottom. So, I can clearly say that we are still doing fine right now.

I know people hate to hear this, people hate to hear that the market is "fine" right now because they lost so much money. They want to feel the pain that everyone feels right now so that they can share their pain as well, they are scared, they are fearing that they will not have any money, some of them already got out and want to hear you say that it will never recover. But the reality is that we are doing fine, and will do fine for the future as well.
2329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What's your take of NFTs? on: May 12, 2022, 09:45:50 PM
Many people have thought for some time that NFTs will have the same fate as icos, icos were extremely popular in their time to the point the forum was full of them and new icos were being promoted every single day.

But once people realized that icos held no future the hype died down and it never recovered, and even if since then there have been many other sources of hype it was never as big as the ico hype, so if things continue in the current direction it would not be long until NFTs collapse completely and people realize they have being deceived by scammers once again into buying a bunch of useless images that anyone can download to their computer for free.
I do not think that it will have the same faith because they are different things. I mean ICO and IEO and all of that were ways of doing pre-sale basically, something I always hated because that was like "oh you created your own money, here take my real money and give me some of your falsely printed brand new money".

I know we are in crypto and it's all made up coins and tokens all around, but I didn't paid any creator to create a new money and sell me some, I traded it with other people and invested that way. So, paying someone to print their own money never made sense to me, I rather buy it from exchanges. But, NFT is proof of ownership system, totally different thing, unlike launchpads of today, NFT just means that you own that thing, and nothing more, rest is just depends on how people use this technology.
2330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it Really Trustworthy? on: May 12, 2022, 05:58:08 PM
How can you think all these impossible things about bitcoin?  For me, i won't resort into panic as i'm confident to say that bitcoin will never end up like this. Yes, its price may drop continuously but it will always find ways to recover. And there is no way that bitcoin will become a scam, since there is no such coin to live more than a decade and yet, still end up a scam. But for shitcoins and all those meme coins, they may fall into scams in the end.
God bless you for this wonderful points, assuming this thread was about shitcoins, I would not have any doubt the fact that it could be scam or could varnish anytime. But, we are talking about Bitcoin here, hello!! BTC is here to stay, it’s about time we understood this fact. I have bitcoin and my trust in it is always 100% whether the market is going down or not. It’s not like having shitcoins, if that’s what I had, I will stay be very afraid.
2331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A time people have been waiting for bitcoin to drop on: May 12, 2022, 05:15:40 PM
This has been discussed many times and yet some people still don't apply the cost averaging method because nobody knows the bottom price of Btc. If you keep on watching the price to go lower than let's say $30k or $25k and eventually it did not happen, then you can't imagine how much opportunity you have missed. When you gradually buy everytime Bitcoin dip is the most safest thing to do not to miss the lower price coz finding a good entry point is always difficult.
That is mainly because people are losing money and do not have any more money left to invest into. I am one of those people, I did DCA many times, and I have bought so low that even right now the price is above what I bought for but I love to buy it when it goes down, I bought from anywhere between 5k to 65k and I am fine, but I would love to buy more right now.

What we are talking about right now is the fact that I have no money left, so how could I continue to do DCA right now if I have none left? Not like I went all in, I have been buying for 3-4 years now and I have bought from many different prices but with it going down so much, I just have none left.
2332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 11, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
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There is no guaranteed unless it is mathematically guaranteed. Bayern guaranteed that they will win it this year, and Dortmund guaranteed that they will be second. However, Leipzig being fourth is not guaranteed just yet, even though it looks like it would be the possibility, there is still one more game left and that means we are going to end up with them doing as well as they possibly could and maybe even end up with a win, but if they lose then Freiburg is right there to win it and become the fourth. That is of course what I believe could happen, maybe I am wrong and it will not happen, who knows?

I didn't know the Dortmund deal, if City gets him 100% guaranteed not fake news, that's one of the biggest news of all summer transfer window, even before summer came.
2333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded! on: May 11, 2022, 09:25:27 AM
People didn't wreck their lives gambling, something else was the trigger that drew them into the game and made them overspend. If they didn't lose it gambling they would likely have found a different way to spend that money.
What could that trigger be? Was it their friends that encourages them to play and bet more? Or it was the lucrative promotions? Whichever of these two, gambling is still involved and has its own piece to be blamed because if there are no gambling, there's also no promotions and friends that will influence someone to do the same thing. If we look at the bright side, it's better that they spend their money in gambling because what if they spend it in drugs, alcohol, prostitutes and similar stuffs that are more dangerous than gambling.

For me, it shouldn't be stopped but should be more regulated strictly. I know there's a thing that can balance this but I don't know the specific term of it. Because of these irresponsible gamblers, the government's revenue got affected which should be a big help now that our country is just slowly rising after years of dealing with the pandemic.
Balance is already the term. If we have a balance in life, we won't overdo things. Governments shouldn't ban it in the first place when they knew that it can affect their revenue but if they banned it then it means they won't be having a problem. Responsible gamblers might be hating the irresponsible gamblers right now, knowing that the only thing that makes them happy are now gone.
2334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Semifinals! on: May 10, 2022, 09:32:35 PM
They ARE the better team than Rangers. Almost any team that can finish top half in the big leagues will be considered a favorite against any Scottish clubs be it Rangers or Celtic. The coefficients are always in their favor and nobody will ever put Rangers as the favorite among those. It is a far bigger achievement for them to be in the final hence the celebrations. Let's see though, who plays better. Villareal played better than Bayern and you'd never have guessed this to be the case Wink
Yes, that is also true, at this stage of any competition there can be a lot of surprises and even though I think Frankfurt should be the winner in the finals, I am not going to be totally surprised if I see the match going otherwise. Obviously, maybe something like this could happen if Frankfurt somehow underestimates their opponent and will suffer for it last minute.
There is no doubt we have much better teams then these two in event but here luck and some good strategy helps these two to for reaching into final as many teams lost good matches on their bad days and out of event, but now all is settled, and these two are going to fight for this year's title race with most chances Frankfurt is going to be some favorite even both are level in quality and performance, but some good aggressive game is helping them for having some good edge against Rangers.

Still, this is any team game as on his day Ranger can also produce some good upset they already lost two times in this competition history hopefully this will not happen third time for them.
2335  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitoin prediction - 1 Million dollar by 2025 (Expert) on: May 10, 2022, 04:36:54 PM
Every crypto expert certainly has a different prediction about the bitcoin price in 2025. Some say the bitcoin price will reach $1 million and there are also those who say the bitcoin price will only reach $300k in 2025. Regardless of the differing views that are said by experts, of course, in the future the volatility and price of bitcoin will experience an increasing trend
I think some just want to gain attention so they predict either too high or too low but those who aren't are going predict realistically where most of us can easily agree. One million dollars for bitcoin sounds impossible to me already but 300k USD is still possible I guess. They say that the more people get's in, the more the price of bitcoin can become stable but I am not really sure if that was true or not but whatever happens, we still have no choice but to accept it.

If the price becomes more volatile then that was a good thing for the traders but if the price becomes more stable then it's good for those who are investing for longer terms.
2336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League & 1. League 2021/22 Season on: May 09, 2022, 09:48:53 PM
Besiktas seemed to be the better side than Fenerbahce in this derby game. But it was still not enough for them to be victorious at the end of the game. Fenerbahce were just horrible in the second half especially. If Besiktas turned the game and got 2-1 ahead, then Fenerbahce would be in a big trouble I think. But they must be thankful for Besiktas' not doing that. Konyaspor are going to play an important game against Antalyaspor away tomorrow. If they win that, they will have only a two-point gap with Fenerbahce before the last two games.
That was a close call for Fenerbahce. Otherwise, they would have been in a little bit of trouble in my opinion. But certainly not that much trouble because they have solidified their spot in second place.

But if they lose their next match they can still lose their second place but that looks highly unlikely because their next match is against the team which is at the bottom of the table. so I think they don't have much to worry about.
Considering the goal from Fener was a bit lucky, and Besiktas played a bit more heavily, I would say that it was bound to be a draw at the very best because Fener has been the better team this year so they just managed to hang on enough.

Next year will be a very difficult year to watch, all three big names will want to do as good as they possibly could, the off-season will be tough as well because they both lack money but also want to win the league at the same time. At least one of them will not give what the fans want, and I am wagering it could be Fener next year, they were not bad this year whereas the other two were terrible so those two may work the hardest.
2337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 09, 2022, 09:14:04 PM
The prediction from yours about Frankfurt winning 2-1  also gives birth to another debate. 

Is Frankfurt good enough to stop the attack of Rangers? 

I honestly believe they are but I think Frankfurt is a lot more coordinated in the offence rather than Defence so it might be a tricky situation especially when they will be playing in the Europa League final
With the form of both teams right now predicting about any team is not easy because both teams are capable of winning this title after having very interesting matches in their knock-out stages with this all Rangers is already two times in this final and never won, but Frankfurt is having their first final in many decades which is very good from them even they are the worst team in Bundesliga but still doing amazing running of form in Europa Cup with this I am also favoring German side for winning this year's title even it's just personal view and could be wrong but their form and quality in this competition is surely having some good impact in last few matches, and they are capable of beating any team on any ground with their performance and quality.
2338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc price moving too much on: May 09, 2022, 12:45:44 PM
If you are annoyed seeing the same thing then you should ignore them and reply only to the topics or comments that you like the most. The word "correction" is normal here in btc/crypto and people use that word to describe the situation of the market or the price of the coins but I think you are right that some people overly use the word even if its already obvious that there are no corrections yet that happen.

A small drop in the price can't be called a correction but a correction is something that are close to bear/dumps, where the fall of the price is kinda heavy. Indeed that there is something wrong on why the price acted like this but we should be seeing a bull run by now.
I would guess that correction could be tiresome if you are losing money. I mean think about it, in a situation where you are bleeding dry, you will not want people to keep telling you that it is a mere correction and it is not a real fall. Obviously if you look at it as it is right now, it is nothing but just a small drop in grand scheme of things, but for someone who invested recently it might be all that they needed to hate it.

This is why I believe that it shouldn't be a big deal, it should be something a bit more professional for all the ones involved and correction is part of the vocabulary of all professional traders so if we want to look at it that way, then we have to use that word.
2339  Economy / Gambling / Re: Video Course of BlackJack for people who want to learn BlackJack on: May 09, 2022, 10:04:25 AM
Who told you that Gambling is not Common in other part of the world? specially black jack? lol that is a joke right?

Gambling has been spreading worldwide , and yes maybe there are some people that has no good knowledge about gambling but at least each of us has Idea what is gambling .

so Video course about Black jack is available in internet so  there is no reason how would people wont have idea about what is it.
Well -  - the muslim country where I live. Gambling is a crime and there are no casinos in my country. What to talk of blackjack?
If a bride would know that the guy she is going to marry is a gambler - she would refuse right away.
Do you think is it a joke? You might not be aware of other cultures then.
Lol yeah. Not only in muslim countries but there are non muslim countries too where gambling is banned. It wasn't about their culture but there are different reasons why they did that, there is that, people on their country are now heavily addicted to gambling and it caused some serious problems on the way they live. There are also some that ended their lives because they can't take the pressure anymore. That is reasonable (the one that the government did) than to make the situation much worse.

About marrying a gambler, I think I have seen a thread before that talks about that but it was the opposite where the guy gambler is not restricted to gamble but it was the girl. Seeing a girl, that is heavily addicted to gambling seems not right anyway.
2340  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦉 Owl.games 🦉 Web 3.0 Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - BTC-Metamask-Walletconnect on: May 09, 2022, 08:12:44 AM
I guess OWL is very far from listing on Binance! This is still the early stage, people still accumulate with staking... we will wait for a while and we will see the first big dumps when the first big holders make a move and start selling! It will be interesting to see how will OWL price behave when that starts happing...

I have some OWL tokens and I gamble with them (a bit high min bet for dices, 2 OWL)! I registered with mail, for staking we need to connect a wallet and I am not using any of them! I think OWL can make some updates and make the process a bit easier... until than I will gamble and make more OWL's or I will lose them all!
They are here in the forum for almost 5 months now and I think that is already a sufficient time for growth so they should list the coin now on a better exchanges for their customers to gain more confidence but we slowly forgetting that the concept of owl games is to deliver decentralized gambling so listing the coin to a centralized exchange such as binance can be contradicting to them but let us see if what are the team's response to this.

In the meantime, pancakeswap was is still a nice exchange. It's secure and it's easy to use. No need to wait like what we are doing on a centralized exchange but trades are initiated instantly.
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