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2321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency and Gambling on: October 22, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
It's true gambling and cryptocurrency aren't the same, but have a good relationship. For example, if you invest in any crypto then you don't know where it would go. It would dump or pump. Same when you gamble, you don't know exactly what is going to happen. Isn't similar? On gambling, you are going to win big or lose everything. But in crypto, there will exist what you bought in tokens or coins. Doesn't matter value is less in fiat. When you are going to invest in a brand new project then it's fully gambling with your funds. The project would scam you or you may make some money.
My understanding of Cryptocurrency and Gambling, when gambling if you lose the money will not come back again but if you buy a coin and the price goes down there is an expectation that it will rise again and can make a profit so for me this is clearly different even though there are some assumptions (maybe people who doesn't know) Cryptocurrency and Gambling are the same for me they don't have a deep understanding of the real crypto.

There was even someone who asked me about crypto which is considered gambling because they think negative things while he himself has never done anything in crypto including investing in it, so I explained and now they understand the difference between crypto and gambling even though in they have in common.
2322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: October 22, 2022, 07:31:59 PM

I believe Madrid will probably win this game by 2 to 3 goals, and I don't think they will concede in this match. My reasoning may not be accurate, but I think Sevilla's goals per match stats seem to be only 1:1. This means that Sevilla have a low percentage of scoring goals per game.
Real Madrid already has one goal and the game is still going on. I also don't think that Real Madrid will have a hard time against Sevilla because their performance has decreased in the sense that their rotation has decreased so Real Madrid can freely win it.
Because maybe due to a decline in performance so Sevilla have a low percentage of goals I also don't believe they can be in a good position at the end of the season.

Actually I see two weaknesses of barca at the moment. They have Pique already starting to slow down and midfielder Busquet who is starting to age and xavi has yet to find a replacement. Xavi understands very well his young players are not experienced enough to be alone without them.
Maybe Xavi will take advantage of the winter later to buy new players. They need an experienced young midfielder and central defender.
Because the senior players are old so their game will definitely slow down because of the age factor and this must be considered about the considerations that Xavi does to new players who will be replaced later, is it possible with existing players (say young players) there will be no motivation if there are no senior players? I think that they should be able to do that because no matter what their task should be an experience as time goes on.
2323  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Free Bet Promotion > Sportsbet.io > SOUTHAMPTON v ARSENAL on: October 22, 2022, 07:10:59 PM
Match Score: 0:2
SH 1st Goal: 30th minute

Good luck  Wink Cheesy
2324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 22, 2022, 06:44:54 PM
we are lost, now I have no more hopes that we have any chance of being champions this season, this defeat was very close, when I was watching the game and soon I saw that we would lose, liverpool's attack was inefficient, in January the liverpool needs to look for at least 2 strikers who are excellent strikers so that they can at least finish in 4th position, because I doubt we will get to 3rd position, but if nothing changes we won't even finish 5th position, it's been a disastrous season
This very far point difference is very far from being behind, especially since Liverpool's performance is unstable, sometimes winning big teams, sometimes losing to weak teams, makes it difficult for us to predict Liverpool's victory, including in the match, it is clear that this should be Liverpool's victory but in a ball game it will always be a surprise when it has happened with a big team defeat.

I still haven't heard the news that Liverpool will sign another striker after buying the expensive Nunez but he didn't contribute much better, while the 2 strikers Jota and Diaz rely on have suffered injuries in the past few weeks which makes Liverpool's front line squad not as sharp as it should be Klopp can evaluate with these complicated circumstances.
2325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 21, 2022, 07:57:31 PM
I think Chelsea v Manchester United will be the focal point in the 13th round. Both teams need to catch up with the league leaders. It will be a very nerve-racking match. Chelsea as well as MJ have been playing on defense lately so there won't be many goals. I'm betting on a 0-1 win for Chelsea. The Londoners are playing at home, which will help them a lot.
Chelsea still haven't lost when together Graham Potter, while playing at Stamford Bridge Stadium an advantage where they can play more dominantly in front of their own fans.
Manchester United have recently beaten a big team, of course they will have the guts to fight more difficult than before, now Ten Hag has prepared a scheme against Chelsea but indeed it will be really exciting who will win from both teams have the ability to won even though there was a disdain for Manchester United.

In terms of betting, if you choose one of them, I think it is promising with a large enough opportunity, but it is still difficult to determine who will win or will end up in a draw.
Because now I will not underestimate Manchester United again after knowing yesterday's game which was quite skilled.
2326  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Will be the Bottom of Bitcoin till 2025? on: October 21, 2022, 06:33:18 PM
At worst I think we could see 10k again, but that is unlikely as it will require a huge event which shakes not only this market but the stock markets as well,
It's always possible to be at $10K again, but maybe something big has to happen in the market. It doesn't matter if the price goes down, if you can take advantage of it then you will probably make a profit when the price goes up.
Anything can really happen, let alone a big situation that hit the cryptocurrency market about the possibility of 10k it could indeed happen because of the high volatility of bitcoin, we really can't anticipate if it really happens but take advantage of it what we have to do is the right way, even though some say 2023 is a recession year in many countries will experience rising inflation but we don't quite know what will happen later, I think one of the best investments is in Bitcoin which is a better hope so there is no need to panic and deal with this with a welcome to buy if the price really drops.
2327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: October 20, 2022, 06:32:53 PM
Arsenal are of course favorites today but we just don't know what the final score will be I mean for handicap betting
If only bet on Arsenal win @1.58 how about Both teams to score? @1.78  will PSV score too?
I think Arsenal and PSV will fight for the standings in the group.


Just now Arsenal scored a goal through Granit Xhaka they managed to break through the PSV defense which was a bit solid but for me Arsenal's efforts have succeeded and this can be maintained until the rest of the time is over.
I favor Arsenal doing @1.58 bet they can definitely win by a narrow goal, but we will see if both teams will score but my prediction this win will be very slim for Arsenal.
Arsenal will maintain a winning streak in the Europa League.
2328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you win so big on: October 20, 2022, 06:02:38 PM
Chances are if they win and say $50,000 surely they will play for a while because of the excitement of winning big and the rest is still too big so they can still withdraw their money for other necessary needs.
But I myself will certainly leave a balance in the account of about 5% to be able to play it again and not entirely use it.

Second, I won't do this with any show off because I usually never tell from the style of calculation that I have a lot of money, I prefer to keep quiet by having fun with my family which is more important, but investment is important so only my family knows that I have invested from the winnings.
2329  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Leaving your coins on exchanges on: October 20, 2022, 04:28:05 PM
I think the only way to keep our assets safe is to store them in a wallet with their own private key instead of storing them on the exchange unless it's a day trade then they have to store it on the exchange so they don't keep depositing/withdrawing so I think it's an option for them as trader.
But since I'm not a day trader so I don't keep assets on the exchange for a long time this would be risky too except when it's necessary to make some trades with coins then I make the required deposits.

But do big and well-known exchanges provide insurance to users if their exchange gets hacked? We will still get the whole asset right?
2330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 20, 2022, 03:26:33 PM
Not Bruno Fernandes, but Hugo Lloris who deserves the player of the match in the Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur match in my opinion.
Winning 2-0 makes Manchester United look like trending in this thread.

It's true, Man United's victory added a record three times to beat Spurs in a row.
I hope that Manchester United players will not be too long in the euphoria of victory, because next week Manchester United will be awaited by another London club, namely Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.

Graham Potter did not use Aubameyang during a draw at West Ham United. That's a sign Potter wants to prepare former Arsenal players in a fit condition to welcome Manchester United on 22 Oct.
Hugo Lloris kept so many clean sheets but it still had to concede two goals because of Man United's extraordinary skills that it couldn't stop how Hugo Lloris could withstand all attacks from Man United, but indeed Bruno Fernandes was dominant and Fred also played quite efficiently because A strong midfield made the Man United squad more confident with all attacks on Tottenham.

They need to be mentally prepared because Chelsea is a formidable opponent even now under Potter Chelsea still can't lose, meaning Chelsea are in a strong position to beat so Man United can be more aggressive against them.
2331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Happens to Our Bitcoin and Other Assets If We Die? on: October 19, 2022, 07:04:13 PM
The challenge is that unlike Fiat that is kept in the bank, cryptocurrency holders usually do not reveal their key phrase, so it becomes difficult to transfer the assets to a next of kin.

Another thing is that some country do not approve of cryptocurrency meaning you can't store your phrase with the bank.
This means that you must be ready to have a solution so that your assets can be transferred if you die later. I mean you have to prepare everything just like you prepare inheritance for your children and family. In bitcoin you may find it easy to do so if you trust one of the nuclear family members, but if not then there are many other solutions that you need to learn so that your assets will be useful for your family in the future.

Have a backup of your wallet and give it to your family that you really trust. But if you mind, then I think you can give it some or in any way you might prefer. Inheriting your assets to your family is important, especially if you care about them because whoever we are will surely die.
Of course this must be planned further about how to transfer assets to our heirs when we die, as I have said in my post, that the private key will not be given to anyone including my family but I will still teach them to know about this so I won't complicate them when I'm not around, just pointing to a place where we store it and that's what we're told while my private key remains secret.

This has to be concerned but I think what is planned must be different, but what is certain is that telling the heirs, especially our children, is important, so basically they want to save wherever they have to be for the plan.
2332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 19, 2022, 05:26:49 PM
Liverpool are playing a home game against West Ham today and this is an opportunity to maintain a winning streak at the same time.

I really liked Liverpool's performance in the Manchester City game and it made me hopeful about their recovery. But they need to continue to win to prove this. West Ham are one of the disappointing teams of the season so far. They are far away from their last season performance. However Liverpool still had better be careful because West Ham got two wins recently and didn't lose for three weeks. Maybe this could be a sign of a recovery for them as well. But despite that, I still believe in Liverpool to defeat them tonight.
Of course this is an opportunity to move up the standings if Liverpool win away from home, can they enter the top 5 of the Premier League standings past several other teams, obviously with last week's victory can make the Liverpool squad more confident while injured players in my opinion Klopp can still manage with a few of his players, West Ham are sometimes more difficult the season they don't excite but with Liverpool's performance like last week I believe this could be their win away.
Another chance for Liverpool to go further.

Are you a Manchester United fan? If so, I hope you will have fun today.  Wink

After the most humiliating defeat to Tottenham in the 2020/2021 season with a score of 1-6, Manchester United has not been beaten by Tottenham until now. This good record should be something that can make Manchester United worth fighting for maximum points in today's match, and I think Manchester United will probably do it.
Man United should be able to have another good meeting with Tottenham although this will be a little different but in my opinion Man United still deserves to win it even though we know Tottenham are still above Man United, it will be a different story if Ten Hag's men win, Arsenal was beaten, Man City couldn't be beaten by Man United but will Spurs be beaten again? What's interesting is that Man United fans will definitely be positive on Man United's game tonight.
Erik Ten Hag will definitely have a different scheme when making his debut with a big team.
2333  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: That's why I really like bitcoin :) on: October 19, 2022, 04:05:54 PM
Physical currencies too have the similar features. Over time everything have well advanced. Bitcoin wallet serves as one's own bank, because it is you who can control it. Banks are different, and OP have mentioned it just to indicate the reason that attracts.
Of course, there will be some similarities between fiats and Bitcoin, but I must say that Bitcoin is more advantageous and makes you feel that you truly own the coin you possess. Fiat has cheated us a lot, and the large difference in usage of the most popular payment system between countries irritates me. But with Bitcoin, the owner has the absolute right and would be able to pay and enjoy being paid as long as the dealer allows the coin.

In other words, with BTC, you can do payments that the best countries in the world could do with the same rights, unlike fiats in which they discriminate.
That's the advantage of Bitcoin because we ourselves control it and the value can rise over time in the future, Fiat is still money which in my opinion is more destitute because there are many things that we can't control in terms of our party influencing it in value, sometimes payments the system has a bit of complexity, although it is not as easy as Bitcoin which is used easily and quickly.

Now that there are many popular countries that accept payments with Bitcoin, it is an convenience for us when traveling abroad to visit the country, for example, there is no need to exchange fiat into their currency, but with Bitcoin, we just need a QR which is simpler, I imagine if this is all the world to apply it maybe they will have no trouble.

Illustration of the difference between Bitcoin and Fiat Grin
2334  Economy / Reputation / Re: [FUN][In Merit] Post Count Down To Your Next Rank Here. on: October 19, 2022, 11:50:55 AM
Guys, it's nice to see you guys celebrating my rank even when I didn't know that I've been rank up to hero since yesterday. Honestly it's been a lot of fun and I'm grateful that so many people have helped me during this time. I also want to thank everyone who has helped me rank up so far, I can't mention them one by one but every one of you reading this post then rest assured I am very grateful to you.
@indah rezqi I'm happy to see you rank up to Hero in such a short amount of time and it was a journey full of excitement but today is the peak where you rank up so congrats on that.

I think this is a motivation for anyone including myself, to be able to rank up at any time as long as we are better for the forum, and I also see that some of the members above are getting close to Hero rank. I also hope that they can achieve it. Wink
2335  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Altcoins? on: October 17, 2022, 06:33:40 PM
Altcoins are not good to hold for long time because altcoin can buy off you in the process of holding it so if actually you want to work on for a long time the best country is Bitcoin because bitcoin cannot buy and the value can only depreciate but when bullish market come bitcoin rise again but some altcoins there project just end on the way so it is not good for someone to buy altcoin and hold for long time

I will partially disagree, btc no doubt is the best coin to hold but there is nothing wrong with little diversification of your portfolio with a few good alts. I don't need to go in details about alts like eth, bnb, sol, dot, ada, avax, ltc, egld, and so on are alts which am pretty sure still trading above the price they where initially launched! and not only that most of these alts have been around for some years now and still going strong, the perception that alts are not good for long term mostly applies to shitcoins that have no significant beside pump and dump. Those type of alts are not able to recover even when the bull market season occurs.  so if there are alts that shows some element of potential, i feel it is worth a try.

As long as an altcoin with a top 10 rating maybe it can be reconsidered by everyone, I still haven't done that myself and it's all on Bitcoin as one of the ones in my wallet, so every coin has a good prospect if they are able to last more as long as with top ranking but the rest is below that I will not glance back.
The fact that altcoins are still a lot of interest because the pump is always big, while it is different from Bitcoin which is slow with it, but as for other differences, I myself Bitcoin is the only coin to choose.
2336  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Threat lies in every corner while investing in crypto (a must read for newbies) on: October 17, 2022, 05:00:31 PM
Right, don't be too trusting in new projects even though they have raised millions of dollars in sales and the total supply is small, those other partnerships really don't guarantee to be more successful in staying in the market they are just trying to take advantage when people are interested in investing in new projects but in reality we will lose if we invest in the project.

For me, stick to Bitcoin being one of the safest coins and it won't fall as badly as other coins, even though you already believe in the new project bringing the idea but remember it's all just what they planned so there's no guarantee in it. that, I don't even believe in it at all.

Bitcoin is a coin to be HODLed for all time.
2337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you be influenced by your favourite celebrity? on: October 17, 2022, 04:09:15 PM
I will not be influenced by any celebrity even though they have placed bigger bets of course I can't follow in large or small amounts of money but I already have my own predictions with the research that has been done before placing a bet.
Maybe for those whose followers will try what is at stake but for me it doesn't pass, whoever celebrity is a favorite but I will not follow his influence.

For me, betting is an absolute freedom that is my right, but in general, betting is luck, but I prefer to do it myself instead of following other people's bets.
2338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 17, 2022, 03:29:54 PM
We have seen Manchester City this much desperate for the first time after a long break. They had some important opportunities to score actually with Haaland but Alisson didn't let him score thanks to his impressive saves. There was something wrong with their defense in this match also. They left big spaces in defense before and after the goal. Maybe I can understand the after but it is hard to get the other one. Salah was so comfortable on the front and scored a goal.

There was really some improvement in Liverpool defense as they managed to stay solid against Manchester City attackers mostly. They need van Dijk to continue playing strong from now on as he is the mainstay of the defense line. Maybe it is too difficult for them to enter the title race but they don't have anything to lose now. They must push hard after this critical win.
This is a very painful defeat, especially for Manchester City supporters, even though there are many opportunities that will be scored by Manchester City players but Liverpool's defense is solid enough that it is difficult to penetrate despite several attacks by Haaland and his friends, but that's how Manchester City focus attacking, of course the defense is not noticed how strong it is and Salah took advantage of the opponent's own situation and managed to get past it by becoming a goal so it was a bit of a mistake for the Manchester City defender who was too focused on attacking.

Indeed Liverpool are still quite far from competing for the title race, the only thing they have to improve every game so that points can get closer, but the reality is that the Premier League is more difficult to predict.
2339  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading on: October 17, 2022, 02:42:01 PM
Even trading professionals fail and have losses in trading. The volatility of the market is unpredictable and not all analysis is accurate. We can't always rely on professionals because no one could predict the prices accurately with consistently. Applying the basics during confusion would be better than seeking for expert's opinion, especially during this bearish season.
professional traders, expert traders that will not be a guarantee that you will not get a loss, especially when the bearish season comes. but the difference is only in the losses that are obtained if a professional trader the losses that can be obtained will not exceed the specified limit. but a beginner sometimes the losses they get exceed the limit of almost 90%.
and in terms of profit, it is also different because professional traders use detailed analysis and novice traders use analysis as best they can without detailed knowledge.
but it's all down to luck
Basically, skills must be needed in daily trading not only for a professional but they can prevent a very large risk because they have set management in trading and of course a beginner and a professional will be different in acting so this will not be the same even though following some suggestions and the material he was given.
I think trading is not just luck, but they analyze with very precise timing, meaning that every time you enter or sell you will know the time that has been set, even though only a few percent are made in that profit, so skills are very important for professionals and beginners.
2340  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New Youtube Scam in Action on: October 17, 2022, 01:33:44 PM
Who the heck is John Bitcoin anyway?

If I can recall correctly, there was also a fake Binance channel with 500k subs in Youtube back then but it was a giveaway and a VOD of previous stream was only playing making it look like a real live stream. Not sure how much was scammed though. I might have watched some tutorials for day trading in crypto from some Youtubers like Crypto Jack, but I would never find myself clicking whatever links that they are going to provide.

Even if Mr. Beast even did one of those, I would never.  Cheesy
I did a search on Youtube about John Bitcoin it's nothing famous, maybe just a new Youtube that just posted its phishing site in the description by putting a link to the scam.

Actually a lot happens to famous Youtube channels that promote scam sites under the pretext they will refund double after deposit, and scamers try to hack famous Youtube channel in Bitcoin and after getting it will LIVE streaming full 24hours, for me this is already know classic scam but some of them may still be tricked.

Yeah, any suspicious links shouldn't be clicked.
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