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2341  Economy / Economics / Re: Preparing for the future. on: November 29, 2021, 09:40:18 PM
Now I am 27 years old and i know bitcoin about 6 years ago when the price of 1 btc was around $240, at that time i bought and used it for cloud mining, gambling and HYIP and i lost a lot, if i hold on until now i can get out of the office and start business, for a better future I will buy and make bitcoin a long term investment.
I am somewhere close to you. Not in age but how I realized it and how I spent mine for useless stuff and lost most of it. However I have been doing fine thanks to this new increase. I am not saying that it has been a great situation, we all know that if we are not careful enough then we are going to lose it so I ended up investing with the drop during march 2020 and that has been my rock that I stand on. After that I did some good investments as well but never did as much profit in dollars as I did with that.

So, I would say that it is clear for me that even if we lost too much money we still learned a valuable lesson. We are still young, there is a long way until being retired and that means we could end up with something much better by the time our retirement age comes. I am hoping to have over half a million dollars saved when that day comes and it would mean a great retirement for me.
2342  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Cryptocurrency for 1 Week! on: November 29, 2021, 08:42:36 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble OP, one week isn't enough to judge how a successful trader you've become. Anybody can win a trade at a time like we have it now because of the upward price movement. We're in a bull rally, and people hardly record losses. We get people missing out rather than recording losses during a bull run. I think anyone should trade a complete circle before they can claim they're successful. A complete trade circle in cryptocurrency industry for me is four years. The pre-Bitcoin halving, halving itself and post–halving are the complete experience circle any trader needs to guage themselves in this industry.
That's the key difference here, in a week even the best trader could have the worst week or the worst trader could have the best week. It is a very small sample size and that tells us nothing at all. I had weeks where I did 10x profit and I had weeks where I lost 80% as well, so I can't really base how good or bad I am on any week of my life, so neither should anyone else.

What you can get from a week is to see if you could leave emotions out when you are trading. That is a very important thing when you are trading and if you could do that then you could become a decent trader in the future, if you are new and you could leave emotions out of trading, that would be the only thing to learn about you in a single week.
2343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: November 28, 2021, 09:04:09 PM
In the current match, Sevilla took a 1-0 lead with Mir's goal at the Santiago Bernabeu. If Sevilla wins this match, they will become the leader in La Liga. This is an important match for Real Madrid, Sevilla and their followers, Atletico Madrid, Real Sociedad and Real Betis. Let's see which team will win at the end of the match, will the leader change in the league?

Edit : At the time of writing this message, Real scored with Benzema.
After end of first half now both teams are level with 1 - 1 but Sevilla done some good in first half now if they keep this momentum then surely they can restrict Real Madrid and can stay on second spot in La Liga with one game still in hand because now after Xavi's arrival situation is very serious in this league Barcelona is improving so other teams have to do some better for staying at top today Atletico won and Real Socidad lost and if Sevilla also lost then surely Real Madrid will enjoy 5 points gap against their all opponents and Sevilla will also slip from second to fourth spot with just 5 points gap between them and Barcelona which is now also hunting for their spot in top four as they already out of this year's Champions League knock out stage.
2344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC reach $100,000 in December? on: November 28, 2021, 06:24:30 PM
for this year, the price of bitcoin reached $100k to be very small huh. I also think so. a few months ago, I speculated that this month the bitcoin price could reach the $75k or $80k range. however, it looks like a correction is taking place and pushing bitcoin even below $60k.
however, reaching a price of $70k alone is a very good start to 2022. I still believe that prices will rise again in the near future. however, it doesn't look like the price will reach $100k by the end of this year. Well, let's hope it's actually achieved in 2022.
I have seen many people talking about 100k recently, everyone is aiming at that and I hope that it happens. Yet, just like you said, even if we are above 70k and whatever it is, it could be 70001 then I would be happy about it. That's a great base to start with, every year bitcoin is reaching insane numbers and I am quite happy about it. Aside from going from 2018 to 19, nearly every year was a big success and I hope that same could happen this time around as well.

I can't say much about what is going to happen but I see that every time we are higher yearly, that is a good thing for the future. If we are higher every year, what would be the price of bitcoin in 2030? That is the thing that I am so happy about, if we keep this long term trajectory going on, then we are going to end up with something huge when 2030 hits and maybe that would mean I would be rich? Who knows.
2345  Economy / Economics / Re: Prospective retailer on: November 27, 2021, 06:24:32 PM
Crypto has opened up lots of self employment option to our present society ranging from investment to trading even down to staking and all this are made possible by both centralized and decentralized exchanges providing services through licensed procedure to ensure a secured transaction either through peer-to-peer or a completely centralized procedure

I was just wondering don't you think becoming a retail vendor through a well developed exchange can earn you passive income or you haven't thought in that direction. Or could there be an  untold/hidden mysteries behind setting up an exchange because we still need more exchanges so we can give crypto more boost beyond government regulations
Anyone can work as a crypto retailer, and you don’t even need an exchange for you to be able to run a business like that. I’ve seen a lot of people in my country where I live who are working as crypto retailers, and they own their own websites slash exchange where they do their cryptocurrency business. Their business is like a peer to peer form, so the government can’t really interfere in their business, because the government wouldn’t be able to know what is going on.

Although there have been some of them that are registered under the government, and this ones can be affected at anytime if the government decides to ban them. Only those that have stayed as peer to peer are the ones that won't be affected by any rules that are set up by the government to ban cryptocurrency. So, being a crypto retailer is nothing new at all, there are lots of people who have been doing it right from time.
2346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: does this have something to do with bitcoin's current decline... on: November 26, 2021, 09:00:22 PM
reported [local media] the carbon neutralization mission in 2060 in China and after Meng Wei's announcement from the NDRC about the decisive action that will be applied to crypto miners whether it will work as stated .....
if so, what is the percentage of the impact on bitcoin and other cryptos in the future ..... as we saw after Meng Wei's announcement on the Coindesk site, on Friday's trading session (11/19/2021), the price of Bitcoin fell further, that is, it was sold at a price of 56,959 US dollars per piece
China has fully locked their doors on cryptocurrency, and banned crypto mining companies from their country. So right now, I always consider everything that has to do with China as out of topic when it is cryptocurrency that is being talked about. Are you forgetting that yesterday that the price of Bitcoin was trading almost at $60,000?  although today it has dropped to $54,000. So, you have to know that it is a normal thing that the price will always go up and down, that is how Bitcoin is, and it has always been like that from the start.

I’ve seen a few experts analysts who predicted a decrease in the price of Bitcoin, or do they were being positive on the price of alternative coins in the future,  but I don’t know yet whether I am to believe all those analysis or not. Because, I am still believing that the price of Bitcoin will increase this December before the year is over.
2347  Other / Archival / Re: [POLL] What to expect from Bitcoin in 2022? on: November 26, 2021, 05:46:02 PM
I find the market to be functional on a cyclic process. Once after the previous bull market there is much expectations on the price to increase continuously. Once there is no big movement with bitcoin, everyone's eye turned towards altcoins. Further discussion started as it is the year of altcoins, particularly ethereum. That created some expectation for some time period. After a long this year we've experienced the real bull trend.

Over the past few years we've been part of the volatile market that is good for the traders. This year has brought in the profit for all the long term holders. Almost similar pattern as the previous bull market have happened, only the price difference is big this time. So, I expect some form of bearish move by the falling year.
I would say that anyone who has never been part of previous cycles will not be able to predict what the future holds. I get that it is not something that many people could comprehend, and they do not know how it acted before, but this is usual for all the other ones.

I get that it is regular for us, I mean we will have great years, then we will have altseason, then we will crash, then it will be like that for a while and during that crash it will go down a bit, then a bit more than a bit more and so forth, then it will stay like that for a very long term without moving much, sure a 10-20% move but that is nothing in crypto, and then suddenly it will be another skyrocketing increase. It has always been like that and will keep on being like that again in the future.
2348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Does BTC growing faster?? on: November 25, 2021, 07:25:33 PM
Bitcoin is growing faster than any other crypto currencies because people choose bitcoin.
Why people choose bitcoin? Because they believe in bitcoin. They think it has value so they invest in that. It's the first introduced crypto currency in the world and people believe it's the future of currency. Apart from any other investment choice bitcoin give more return even it has huge risk people are ready to take the risk.

I don't know bitcoin is going up or down in future but I hope it will be give better return to everyone.
I believe that the very big reason is that its entry point and known more than any other. It is at the top of the list and if you want to buy crypto then buying bitcoin is the easiest part of doing that. I get that we as crypto people know thousands of coins right now and that's fine, we could invest into those if we want to, however all the newbies and veterans alike end up investing into bitcoin first, then moving to other things if they want to.

This is the main reason why we have such big volume on bitcoin, and why we have high leverage as well because people want to make a lot of profit but they do not want to risk it with low level coins. I believe it is not because bitcoin is by far the best, but it is because it is by a big margin the most popular one.
2349  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the king on: November 25, 2021, 06:46:09 PM
Today I took my time to go round the market, there are more than 9000 cryptos in the market, but bitcoin is still the king. Now that many other cryptocurrencies are seriously pumping can they take over from bitcoin? If they take over from bitcoin can they last in that position like bitcoin?
I definitely agree that there is a good chance Bitcoin could be toppled one day and I have always believed that and said that. I know that people believe there will never be anything at the top above bitcoin but unfortunately bitcoin is a very low tech thing compared to others right now, it was the best for a while when it started but look at what we have with other things now.

I am not saying that better tech equals better ranks, that doesn't mean that we have to believe bitcoin will stay neither. For example, ETH is second and there are better tech blockchains out there compared to ETH but I believe that we are not going to see anything better than ETH for a while in rankings neither. This is why I honestly say that one day ETH will flip Bitcoin but it may not be right now, it could be sometime before it actually reaches to a whole new level.
2350  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does someone use trading bots? on: November 25, 2021, 03:26:50 PM
Yes, there must be someone who uses bots for trading. But it wasn't me and for some reason I wasn't interested in it. I feel capable and have the time to trade independently. Maybe some people use bots to save more their time or because they have too much work but still want to trade so the way to go is to use bots. Bots themselves can also do their job well and even make a profit.

Yes I saw several people seeking some bots but actually this will never guarantee that we can earn since it has a chance to lose for certain instance. And I also not interested to use this since its not fun to do trades by using that since we cannot learn something deep unlike we do it manually. But this will matter depends on what people like since there are rich guys there who can spend a lot of money to buy some bots to have trade for them.
If you configure your bot properly and you have a decent bot then there is a chance that you could never "lose", all you will have a ton of bags that you will hold. However, assuming you deal with known high level stuff, things like btc/usdt, eth/usdt, btc/eth, usdt/bnb and so forth so forth then you would not be holding them for too long. There is a good chance that you could actually program your bot in a way that it either gives you a profit right away, or it waits until it gives you a profit until the prices go back up. That is how I used mine back in the day but unfortunately it started to be a little funky and I decided to stop using it.
2351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH we can expect big move on: November 25, 2021, 02:30:08 PM
As per previous charts, Institutional investing , ETH Burning .

My forecast is ETH can be 10000-13000$ end of the year.
I do not believe that ETH could be 10k+ in a month, that would be way too big of an increase to have and I believe that we will probably have something much lower. However 5k could be great, that would be something that I would expect from bitcoin and if that happens then we are doing fine.

When you are expecting something closer like 5k then you could be happy with any increase, when you are expecting something like 10k or 12k then it means you are expecting something much bigger and even 5k which is a new ATH if happens could still be something you are upset about, not really be "upset" but you are disappointed that it is still at half of what you are expecting it to be. Drop your expectations a bit lower and you are going get happy quicker.
2352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Cardano run $200 on: November 25, 2021, 01:28:06 PM
It is a very interesting analysis, however everything sounds very good as you say, but in the speculative market anything could happen, now if Cardano takes that turn it would be a great surprise for all investors, because even though the market has been going up, Cardano does not seem to respond like all cryptocurrencies, and the truth is I do not know if that is a good or bad thing, however I stick to the technical analysis of the main magazines or news to get an idea of what may be happening, until now I don't know anything relevant about your team.
I agree that usually people do not expect too much from analysis since it could be true or it could be false and we do not know which one until it happens. The reality is that we should be focusing on long term investments and looking at how long term looks great for ADA, there is really no point to believe or not believe this chart, in any case in the long run it will be fine.

I am not saying go out there and buy ADA, there are other coins as well that you could buy for long-term holding, all I am saying is that when you are looking at a chart and it shows that there is a good chance it may go up soon, then you could buy that coin because usually even if it doesn't go up soon, it will go up later on and that is how you make a profit.
2353  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Watford FC Main Sponsor - UFC Official Betting Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: November 24, 2021, 09:14:50 PM
The juice is multiplied in parlays and it's very unlikely to get any value in odds of big NBA matches like that. Moreover, AFAIK there is no bonus neither insurance for this kind of bets on Stake unlike some other sportsbooks like sportsbet.io for example. Then this guy is a little bit crazy to have bet more than 4 Eth on a 5 legs parlay of big NBA matches on this sportsbook IMO.
Nobody said that it is the optimized and perfect version of gambling, but if you like NBA and you want to wager on the games that you are about to gamble, then why not? I love NBA and I watch the highlights of every game (can't watch the regular games it is after midnight here) and that usually means that I like to wager on them too.

It doesn't make sense to wager on sports that you do not watch, people wager on tennis and golf as well but I don't do it because there is no reason to do it for me, I don't watch them so why would I wager on those games? I know that there are better games and all that you could wager and could get the most out of, but if you do not like those games then it doesn't make sense.
2354  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is Bitcoin up since after Dump? on: November 24, 2021, 08:29:04 PM
Traders like me has wondered the next move for bitcoin. Ever since the dump that happened few days ago, it's been almost stagnant at $63k.
The latest technical analysis from one of the most popular analysts in the market shows that the Bitcoin market might still continue to decrease, as it would be facing more price correction. The analysis goes further to say that Ethereum and some other top altcoins in the market stand a bigger chance of increasing In the near future.

But all these things are still speculations, none of us can really tell what it is going to be, so if you still believe that you will be able to keep holding, then you should continue holding your assets and not sell it, but if you feel that you have made profits already and you don’t want to lose anything again, then you can go ahead and sell your coins.
2355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Play-to-Earn games on ETH: What's the catch? on: November 24, 2021, 06:55:25 PM
Binance Smart Chain is no longer a chain that gives ultra low fee. It is lower than ERC-20 chain from Ethereum but it is no longer a chain for the poor. I used the poor because I want to remind the tweet from CZ. When he shilled BSC, he tweeted, Ethereum is for the rich and you will get poorer with ETH. BSC is for the poor and you will get richer with BSC.

Now BSC has more expensive gas price and very similar to ETH, CZ and Binance team can not handle it to bring the cheap fee back. It can come back if ETH and BNB price falls down and become cheaper. I don't think it is what we want. Fair enough, choose one in between: cheap fee or expensive price of ETH, BNB. I would like to choose the latter.
It was never really "ultra cheap" considering there are free networks out there that people could use if they want to. The problem here is that we should not be looking for something that is free, as long as it is "cheap enough" then we should also look for the quality of the projects in it.

ETH is amazing when it comes to projects in their network, but it is incredibly expensive, literally costs 100 dollars to approve a swap pair for example, whereas SOL is great for fees since it is totally free most of the time or maybe like a few cents at the very worst case I believe, but when it comes to projects in their network they suck and there aren't any proper projects there, sure there are a few but they all feel subpar compared to ETH and BNB. So this is why people pick BSC, it is not the cheapest and it is not the best, but it is the best you could find for that price.
2356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what you worst experience on crypto. on: November 24, 2021, 04:06:14 PM
The mistake we often make in investing in cryptocurrencies is when the target has been reached we do not immediately take profits so increase the next target. This causes if the price drops we will immediately panic. In trading cryptocurrencies we must be consistent in profit targets. There is no plan in making decisions. Don't change easily just because the target you achieve can still be higher. Consistent is no. 1.
That is something that I have done many many times over now. I usually do not get in with an "end game" in mind and just hold things for as long as I can, try to not get out as long as I can as well. That usually ends with me holding something from bottom to peak to bottom again.

I can't say that it is a great feeling, it is a very sad feeling but at the end of the day I also made a lot of money thanks to it as well. I can't say it is a bad strategy for me, it is not a great one but it is not a bad one neither. This is the method I made most of my profit so I know that I am doing something good, but almost all of that came from the top three coins, rest did go up and down and I should have sold at the peak.
2357  Economy / Economics / Re: Credit cards | A scam or a tool? on: November 23, 2021, 09:33:36 PM
How can a credit card be safer and secured than a debit card, if they are issued with one and the same bank? They both have same magnetic strip, where all data is stored. Same device is used to write data on it.

The only advantages of credit cards I know - they give higher % on cashback (but this % banks get back through credit usage fees, so basically it is not that significant), and sometimes you get discounts in shops (but that is a bait to force you to spend).
There are debit cards which are printed by some weird companies that you could fill with crypto, that could be one of the reasons why credit card is safer. Nobody really thinks that same bank offering same card but different purposes could be any different in security, if X bank gives you credit card and debit card, there are now some that literally does it with same card so you could either choose to pay with credit or debit with the same card.

This is why I believe that the person you replied to probably talked about different debit cards, there are so many like I could literally get 100 bucks filled debit card, use it, and then throw it away, it is purely digital and it really works but is it secure? Not as much as a credit card issued by banks.
2358  Economy / Economics / Re: The Difference Between Staking and Investing on: November 23, 2021, 08:54:14 PM
Lets not make things so complicated, Staking is also same as investing but the return depends on the APY rates offered by the staking sites like Binance, example when you just buy BNB and you plan to hold it for a long time you just invest your money in BNB and wait for a profit if price increase, but if you decided to stake it you can also earn BNB as an earned interest from staking.  
The difference is that not all staking is like that. For example BNB is not a proof of stake currency, neither has a defi directly that pays in BNB neither, not that I am aware, so there are just places that pay you savings account interest for your BNB and that is wildly different. For example if you have UNI or CAKE tokens and you stake with it, that's different versus what BNB is getting.

This is why I believe that you may think BNB investing and BNB staking are similar, but BNB investing and UNI staking are wildly different. Things are not really as close to each other as you might imagine, staking is definitely a lot more riskier than long term investing into things like BTC or ETH, the reason for that is the fact that proof of stake coins has inflation based on staking rewards and if the inflation gets too high then the price of that token will fall.
2359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin makes new ATH. More ATHs to come shortly. on: November 23, 2021, 07:28:28 PM
Shortly, nearest future, soon - do you really believe that Bitcoin price can grow all the time? Grow so quickly, to update ATH all the time. I think we start to forget how low Bitcoin price can drop, and how much time it will take to recover. Dont forget about 4 year price cycle. Dont forget how the price grew thanks to ICO and Elon Musk, and NFT probably. I think that the price will be updated only when a new "pusher" will appear on the market. A new hype that will attract newmoney to cryptocurrency, that will wake up peoples interest into spending and investing.
That 4 year cycle is an old talk and wasn't correct this year. We had a big increase to ATH during April, and then we had a 50%+ crash and then we recovered to a new ATH once again in the same year. This all happened within one year, which means that people are definitely looking into something for themselves as well, it is going to be not so weird to expect it to be 100k somewhere in 2022 as well, which could mean the start could happen during December too.

It is why I believe that bitcoin could always fall like you said, but that doesn't need to happen all the time, it could happen at different periods as well and maybe this isn't one of those times, it was a correction and we will recover and break ATH again, or maybe we won't but there is no guarantee which one of those things will happen. This is why people believe "anything could happen" is more likely than saying this or that will happen.
2360  Economy / Speculation / Re: will we witness year end bullrun or bull trap? on: November 22, 2021, 09:04:28 PM
Well, I just put it aside thinking if this is a trap or really a Bullrun in form. Because of what I see and know about the market, volatility makes things and prices unpredictable. But I see this uptrend motion is not manipulated, I'd say this is not because of the whales, this is because of the increasing market demand since early this year. This 2021 gives us some idea that cryptocurrency will have a fortune. Seeing the market still healthy and remains unstoppable despite the FUDs and banning in some countries will tell us that there is no way to stop this technology.
I do agree with you in the fact that volatility makes it a bit unpredictable, and that is not always a bad thing, sometimes I am quite happy with the fact that we can't really predict what the market will do. There is really nothing that I would rather have in crypto aside from volatility, imagine if we had stability in crypto and how boring it would be.

The fact that we have some huge hypes time to time and everyone gets involved with crypto is actually what makes crypto so pumped at times, and that's caused by volatility. Sure during periods like this when the price falls then I agree that it doesn't make sense for people to join that easily, but when it is skyrocketing then you suddenly see more and more people coming in. This is why volatility is such a great thing in crypto and that unpredictable situation makes it so much more valuable.
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