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2361  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Identify Cryptocurrency Scams on: July 30, 2019, 06:47:30 AM
The article has gave a good advise and I read all them and it will be usefull for some newcomers if they intend to choose cryptocurrencies as their investment place. Indeed, that is common thing when bitcoin and cryptocurrencies price goes up there will be newcomer and start to invest and we called them to come here as a hype factor.

They didn't know about cryptocurrency before and they only focus to create a wallet on an exchange and even a few of them didn't know an exchange was scam or not. Sometimes I got confused when there still a people who got scammed, whilst the source/guide how invest in cryptocurrencies is really much such the article that you mentioned. This is pointed out that only few newcomers who make an analyst or find more about cryptocurrency first before they spend money.
2362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do crypto trading bots really generate profits? on: July 29, 2019, 11:13:51 PM
I never use trading in my trade actually, because there is a lot of information that stated trading bot is scam you have to avoid it. Based on that I never use it and trt to avoid as long as I can, maybe because I'm not a day trader so I never focus to find more about trading strategy a some tolls which can make all my trade got profit.

In your case, it will be good if you try it first with the little amount. Never use a huge amount when you use other people tool to gain money. Most likely you will be scammed by them if you are not careful. For myself this forum has became a refference with what everything I do, I never use something if there is someone who got scammed from it and I'll use it if there is no someone who have a bad experience when use something.
2363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you believe in IEO BITTREX? on: July 29, 2019, 04:10:10 PM
a couple of years ago, the Bittrex exchange was a fairly reliable exchange  for me, but last year I heard a lot of negative about it, therefore I do not believe in Bittrex
Did you find a problem when using bittrex? I hope you give a detail what has happened to you. Don't make everyone think a lot of speculation against bittrex because your statment, it is not good when you bring a bad new moreover the bad news intended to an exchange which is mean there is many people who use it.

I have been two years to use this exchange, and so far I never felt any problem when using the exchange. I don't know why as you have said there is some people who got a problem when use bittrex coz as far as I know bittrex is reliable exchange on cryptocurrency world.

However, related to an IEO project I suggest to use binance launchpad because so far I haven't found any information that the exchange was cheating the investor. I suggest if you intend to spend a huge money for investing, you have to try to find a reputable place to manage your money.
2364  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's your advisable source of capital to use for trading. on: July 29, 2019, 03:55:29 PM
I use my own capital to start trading, actually I'm not a day trader I only try to trade when I guess the market is suitable for me (from my knowledge) to trade such as when bitcoin price continue to increase from $5000 to $13500, I took money from my holding especially from my investment in altcoin and I made it to trade in altcoin and the result was I got a good profit at that time. In other hand, I never tried to borrow money especially in form of bitcoin. I just affraid when I can't pay on time my account will be the target and actually I won't have a comfortable feeling when I trade.
2365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bank Of China Is Promoting Bitcoin And It Sounds Very Bullish! on: July 29, 2019, 03:42:26 PM
hmm i cant really believe this. why should a bank promote and educate people about bitcoin? everyone would realize how bad banks really are Huh
sounds a bit weird to me.

Because they don't have a choice, really! It's about China, not a bank. Their state bank is only a tool in their hands. If they don't react soon enough, they could be left behind and lose a potential advantage and opportunities in the future.
Do you thinking that all banks must have an inovation to create a new coin such as JP Morgan? But I have no idea with the regulation at there. As long as the government of china ban the using of bitcoin then all form of bank must obey it.

That is true if bank didn't have intention to make an inovation such as JP Morgan I have confident that in the future we will never see the bank anymore. Because we have had cryptocurrency and its function is more comfortable comparing bank. And we can see now how facebook create their own currency based on blockchain system, they will a concept as bank function IMO.
2366  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Is Binance the Best Exchange for Crypto trading? on: July 28, 2019, 11:45:01 PM
Something I suspect is that if those companies that, through Binance, undergo IEO, fail or have very bad prospects, this will negatively affect the popularity of Binance and perhaps even its relevance in the cryptocurrency market.  By the way, the BNB token may fall because of this.
That is the consequences, through this matter I believe that an IEO that launch by some exchanges especially the reputable exchange such as binance or okex will take a thausand of thinking when they choose choose an IEO project that will be launched by them. Find more what is the company, how the team behind the project and the type of project itself. Although, for this time just a few person who pay attention the project itself, because they only need short term profit, if the project can be traded on the exchange they will sell it.
2367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How often do you invest your Bitcoin to Altcoins? on: July 28, 2019, 11:37:44 PM
I am holding 50 % of my investments in Bitcoin and the other 50 % in altcoins. But for me Bitcoin is the most important. So I am sometimes investing in promising altcoins with a good team and community and sell the altcoin with profit to increase my bitcoin holdings.
Bitcoin should be the first place for everyone investment. I believe only bitcoin will give a huge profit either for short term investment or for long term investment. Different with altcoin, I don't know the potential of altcoin since the price only meet a decrease when bitcoin price meet a bull run a few weeks ago. And I believe for short term profit an IEO is the promising place at this time especially an IEO who launched by Binance exchange. Seems like this strategy is suitable for you, get profit from altcoin investment and the profit that you get you will store it to buying bitcoin.
2368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: where do you trade your Altcoin? on: July 27, 2019, 06:55:25 AM
Sorry if this is a repeat question but anybody familar with Sistemkoin as an exchange ?
I'm not familiar with the exchange, are you the exchange user?

Can you give the exchange site link here?

I just know and using the popular exchange thus far, and some new exchange who use this forum as promoting place.
2369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wait, who owns the market? on: July 27, 2019, 06:47:36 AM
I think the regulation or some information is one of the part who own the market. The whales as many people says who had a lot bitcoin and their wallet will sell and buy their bitcoin depend on on the regulation and some information who comes to the cryptocurrency. So, when you try to invest and being a trader you have to know the latest information that comes to cryptocurrency and regulation frok some countries and companies who decide to accept and refuse bitcoin. I came to cryptocurrency at 2017 ago and most of the movement price development of cryptocurrency was caused by them.
2370  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I lost my confidence... And fought to get it back. on: July 27, 2019, 04:38:15 AM
Being a trader is hard thing to do, I have been two years to learn about how to trade for at least I have to reduce the risk of my loss, but till now I still found a huge lost a few times. But when I got profit from it I feel my time that have been spending to learn more about how to be a good trade was paid off. At least I like to find an understanding or to find more a knowledge either from an article or youtube channel these are my refferences. Because the key of success is knowledge, when I choose a field which I will pursue then I have to know more the ins and out about it.
2371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Only a Crime Tool on: July 27, 2019, 04:09:46 AM
Bitcoin was judge as a crime tool is a propaganda and even as a mask in order to common people hate bitcoin and disturbing to a regulation. Indeed, bitcoin have a digital from which way they consider if one make a transaction then the other people will not know it, but that is a wrong perspective. Bitcoin transaction can be tracked and for those people who use it as a legal transaction should be afraid of that. I don't think that is a long term bad assumption if common people have an interesting to kniw more bitcoin. That is the matter of time, when many people know about bitcoin I guess the assumption of bitcoin is a criminal tool will be disappear.
2372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Flag For ICO Projects That Scam Bounty Hunters on: July 27, 2019, 03:57:46 AM
That's worst I guess, the bounty campaign should give a final information/requirements when bounty campaign is began. Moreover for KYC thing because there is just a few bounty hunters who willing to give their KYC to join with one project. Expect when bounty campaign is began and they ask the participant identity then the participant must comply the requirement to get the token when bounty has ended. You opinion is right, you can make a flag when the bounty rules changed when bounty end.
2373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Are airdrops safe? on: July 27, 2019, 03:49:19 AM
If you doubt about airdrop make it simple just leave it because you won't get a big profit from it. I often see many airdrop who ask the participant's KYC only for $25 it is not fair IMO. There is many ways to earn money through this forum especially, you can take part bounty campaign or signature campaign who paid with bitcoin. When I was newbie I often to taken part with airdrop event but till now I didn't feel the result from it, most of them are useless.
2374  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty dengan alokasi besar apakah menurut anda menghasilkan uang besar. on: July 26, 2019, 03:35:49 AM
Jika alokasi $1M dalam bentuk token yang agan pertanyakan maka itu tidak memberikan harapan yang besar bagi peserta untuk menghasilkan uang besar, karena potensi bagi bounty yang mengalokasi dalam jumlah yang besar umumnya menurut analisa saya hasilnya tidak seperti yang diharapkan namun tergantung pada masing-masing proyek juga

kalau menurut ane sih, belum tentu bounty yang memiliki alokasi yang besar, reward buat bountynya besar juga. Menurut pengalaman saya sih, Rata-rata reward besar hanya untuk membuat menarik para bounty hunter, sehingga yang join juga banyak. Tetapi tidak sedikit bounty yang rewardnya besar, apabila proyeknya berjalan dengan sukses, rewardnya memang sesuai dengan yang dijanjikan. Pada intinya bounty dengan alokasi besar bisa menghasilkan uang besar bagi peserta bounty, bisa juga tidak. (kalau dalam iklan bahasanya syarat dan ketentuan berlaku) Cheesy
Kalau reward yang akan di dapatkan buat bounty hunternya emang jelas pasti besar, maksud saya reward dalam bentuk token. Sehingga bounty hunter akan mendapatkan token yang banyak, namun yang menjadi sebuah pertanyaan adalah apakah nilai token tersebut (dalam jumlah banyak) yang ada di wallet bounty hunter mempunyai nilai yang seimbang? Atau mempunyai harga yang besar? Ini yang menjadi faktor yang harus di perhatikan.

Tidak sedikit token yang tidak mempunyai nilai atau bahkan harganya menurun drastis ketika sudah di list di sebuah exchange dibanding dengan pada saat harga ICO atau mungkin IEO. Tergantung pada project itu sendiri, saya pribadi ketika menjadi sebuah bounty hunter tidak memikirkan atau melihat pada reward yang diberikan, namun yang lebih penting adalah potensitas project itu sendiri, team yang ada di belakang project itu sendiri.
2375  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: HATI HATI ... !!! NEWBIE rawan jadi korban PENIPUAN on: July 26, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
Untuk semua pemula harus super hati hati akan semua tawaran yang di terima . Jangan pernah tergiur akan sesuatu yang tidak pasti . Karena kurangnya pengetahuan seorang pemula tentang bitcoiN  di jadikan senjata para penipu untuk bisa memperdaya seorang pemula .
Saya hampir saja tertipu .
 WARNING untuk NEWBIE

Yups setuju banget ini gan, dulu saya pribadi juga pernah tergiur akan hal yang tidak pasti tentang BTC ya bisa dikatakan kurang pengetahuanlah. Banyak sekali tawaran -tawaran untuk kerjasama dalam hal berinvestasi, tetapi berkat sering bergabung dalam group cari informasi tentang BTC ya jadi tau deh gmn??
Semoga ini bisa dijadikan panduan oleh pemula yang lain y gan...!!!
Saya rasa akan lebih baik jika agan menceritakan sedikit lebih detail untuk bentuk penawaran-penawaran tersebut. Sehingga bisa dijadikan sebuah referensi untuk member di forum ini khususnya bagi saya pribadi, memang banyak bentuk investasi yang menawarkan bitcoin sebagai alatnya dan mereka mempunyai cara yang berbeda ketika menggoda setiap orang.

Saya mengenal bitcoin pada tahun 2017 lalu namun hingga saat ini saya belum mendapatkan segala bentuk investasi yang menggiurkan menggunakan bitcoin atau altcoins, sehingga saya perlu mengetahui cara yang mereka lakukan agar saya bisa menghindari hal buruk tersebut. Khususnya saya penasaran dengan kalimat "semoga jadi panduan" yang agan bicarakan karena saya tidak melihat point khusus di statement yang agan berikan.
2376  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Diskusi) Bitcoin / mata uang virtual erat kemungkinan dengan tindakan illegal on: July 26, 2019, 01:32:47 AM
Yang ilegal itu make bitcoin buat transaksi jual beli atau diigunakan sebagai alat pembayaran.
Tapi saya mempunyai sedikit keyakinan beberapa orang diluar sana (orang Indonesia) pernah/masih ada yang menggunakan bitcoin dijadikan sebagai alat pembayaran dengan catatan kedua belah pihak menyutujui pembayaran tersebut menggunakan cryptocurrencies khususnya bitcoin selama hal ini tidak diketahui oleh pemerintah.

Saya rasa pemerintah hanya mempunyai sedikit rasa takut ketika melegalkan bitcoin untuk sistem pembayaran karena dengan sifat yang volatilenya. Tetapi hal tersebut tidak akan memberikan efek yang besar ketika orang menerima bitcoin untuk dijadikan sebagai alat pembayarn mengetahui karakteristik bitcoin itu sendiri, atau mungkin mereka terbuka lebar untuk menerimanya karena tahu potensi jika ia memegang bitcoin.

Karena menurut hukum (islam) sendiri tidak ada batasan bagi seseorang untuk menggunakan sebuah alat transaksi selama kedua belah pihak sepakat bahwa alat tersebut mempunyai nilai.

2377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New pump & dump telegram on: July 24, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
Actually I never try to take part with pump and dump group since there is many people who says pump and dump group are scam. I think to gain profit in my investment is I have to increase my knowledge against cryptocurrency. I have to choose the potential coin/token where this coin/token will be needed in the future, so for me to gain a lot of profit is not through in an instant way, I must have a high patience to wait the real demand for the coin/token is really comes. And I see pump and dump group is like gambling, the chance for I get the win only 10%.
2378  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Looking for a investor in game bot on: July 24, 2019, 02:18:33 PM
You can make it simple, put your game site on this thread and let everyone try it. I think they (maybe your potential investors) will be easy to assess the project you are making.

2379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: It’s taking a lot of discipline not to sell my alts for Bitcoin. on: July 24, 2019, 02:11:29 PM
We never know which cryptocurrencies who will meet an increase price even the increasing price is drastically, because if we know that I believe we will be an investor who have a lot of wealth. We only know from the developer who make an update to the coin/token but it is not a certainty that the coin / token will experience a price increase.

However, I agree with someone above me who say at least you didn't choose shitcoin for your investment. You will always have a hope that your money will be add in the future if you choose ETH for an instance. But I won't feel regret when I sold my altcoin and move to bitcoin because I have a high confident that bitcoin will have a high price in the future, because I see some reason who will make bitcoin have a high price with one note I must have a high patience.
2380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When altcoin price increase on: July 24, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
Not all market of altcoin following the movement price of bitcoin. Indeed most of altcoin price such as some altcoins in the top position tend to adhere bitcoin price movement, because it was being a culture and many investor will have a thinking as of you says. For them bitcoin is a benchmark to decide buying and selling their altcoin. But I'll believe that an altcoin price will never to adhere bitcoin price movement depend on the development of the altcoin itself. Have you see the top of altcoin who meet gainers and losers in coinmarketcap? maybe that will enlighten to your understanding of altcoin price movements.
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