Lolololol. I am. Thats Why i broke out in talking about slushs pool.
Man its like everyone is always out to accuse everyone of something. Nobody can just accept the fact that people are just simply open minded... honest. or trying to help.
But my last post.. agreed with the mod. and than i spoke out Slush... But its cool. Yall can accuse me. its nothing new in this reality
It's cool, man. Really, it is! No worries... I was working on my previous post to you while you posted your apology to CK. So, don't think I was getting on to you. He did not end the conversation. He simply created a new topic for us. If you click the link, it takes you there. I can understand not wanting to garbage up a forum devoted to questions and/or concerns about the pool. I used to not understand but I do now. If someone wants a discussion with someone, they can simply PM them or create a new topic regarding the subject of that discussion. I do agree fully. I do understand 100% however. I will say. If it wasnt for Slushs forums and Slushs pool. I wouldnt be at the hash rate. or into Bitcoins at all. shit i wouldnt even understand bitcoins or the hardware etc if people didnt rant all the time. I learnt a crap ton by seeing people rant on about bitcoins, their hardware their setups. Sometimes the Rant is incredibly annoying yes I agree it can drive you up the walls. But sometimes.. Rant is the best way to possibly learn something. I used to [a very short time ago] be VERY MOTIVATED and wanted to share things about what I'm doing. I'm still MOTIVATED and EAGER to share what I'm doing. So, I decided to post what I'm doing in other topics already created at http://bitcointalk.org. I also have discussions in PM's with other members about what I'm doing, as well as other discussions. I've learned a lot and I'm still learning. I'm still a newbie when it comes to mining and using the topics made available at http://bitcointalk.org. I do learn fast and I'm still motivated. It's hard for me to hold back my motivation [as shown by my posts on this forum]. So, CK was right in reminding me to chill out and delete what I've done and continue in a PM or create a new topic. |
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Lolololol. I am. Thats Why i broke out in talking about slushs pool.
Man its like everyone is always out to accuse everyone of something. Nobody can just accept the fact that people are just simply open minded... honest. or trying to help.
But my last post.. agreed with the mod. and than i spoke out Slush... But its cool. Yall can accuse me. its nothing new in this reality
It's cool, man. Really, it is! No worries... I was working on my previous post to you while you posted your apology to CK. So, don't think I was getting on to you. He did not end the conversation. He simply created a new topic for us. If you click the link, it takes you there. I can understand not wanting to garbage up a forum devoted to questions and/or concerns about the pool. I used to not understand but I do now. If someone wants a discussion with someone, they can simply PM them or create a new topic regarding the subject of that discussion. |
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cris, Please chill, dude! He was kind enough to create a new topic without deleting. Ease up! Thank you CK! He did not end it. He created a new thread. I've already posted another response to yours on that new thread. Just click the link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856167.0 |
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Sorry this is alot to read. Just trying to help everyone get a better understanding and so u can get better speeds and results.
The racks do help beautifully. Thought. I will say that cluster of Cables you have. Can reduce packets. Due to cables overlapping and crossing over eachother(crosstalk) Id try and neaten that up. If you've got them all plugged into ur switch and than another cable to go to ur router. Umay get better speeds and performance if run Cat 6 to ur switch (Cat 5e is limited for speed) (Id recomend STP) but run it to a patch panel and than run that to your router.
Will do. Because as it is.. theres always 50 devices or in u case 12 devices conencting with 12 cables.. than all forced to go through 1 cable to get to ur router.
Actually, I have 16 not 12. So maybe u could hide the switch... Run the cables around the trim of ur house(but watch ur bend radius) The neater ur cables are the better the results.
If you noticed the additional equipment I said I'm waiting to get here from Amazon, you will understand why I'm waiting to make everything neat and zip tied; you know the drill. A suggestion to you though. Remove all your Cat 5e cables... Why.. because the TPlink switch has potentional to incorporate a higher speed and latency. So running Cat 5e is limiting speeds and performance and increasing cross talk no matter the switch. Switches only do so much depending on your cabling.
Id spend the extra $5.00 for Cat 6 (All my miners are Either Cat 6 or Cat6a).
I will get Cat 6 soon enough. All of this Cat 5 was accumulated from my cable install days before I started training telephone technicians. But if you neaten up those wires. Space them out from eachother... make make it look neater. and also move your switch so its not ontop of the miners or anything.. This will increase heat and majorly increase the noise in the network.
Yes, I will make things neat after I install PDU's. I made an earlier post about 25 minutes ago showing the PDU's I ordered. I will have to take out some shelves and re-install them in order to get these long slender PDU's behind them. Again though. I would think of cleaning up the cabling and moving the switch(Itll help increase your results dramastically)
Agreed. I just KNEW I was not finished yet. I wanted to bump everything up from 120V to 240V with PDU's I thought it would bea good idea to buy a 1200+w PSU(in time) and connect 2 miners per PSu instead of 1 miner for every PSU I have. 1 550w 1 600w all the rest are 750w which run at like 45%-50% load.... barely
Actually, you will get DOUBLE the power (wattage) if you go with PDU's plugged into 240V rather than plugging in straight to 120V circuits. ... Want to team up in mining? Legit.
Sorry, not right now. I don't know that I will ever team up with anyone unless they have a LOT of capital. For now, I spend my time at home these days taking care of my little boy. I will be home schooling him soon. He will be 4 years old in January. David |
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Okay, sorry about that, CK I'll delete my posts and post over there. |
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(Try not exceed 95M in cable distance, attenuation will occur if you go over 100m with the wrong network setup and cables)
The reason the attenuation gets higher is because of the CAPACITANCE in the cable. A capacitor has to be at least two metal plates separated by an insulator. Of course, Cat 5 or 6 is multiple metal plates separated by insulators. It has capacitance in it [the cable]. The more length we have, the more capacitance we have. The more capacitance, the higher the attenuation. |
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PS. Dont hash on WIFI. If u got a 5GH/z line or a good antenna. Go for it.. but if not.. dont bother. I mean 1-2 miners is okay. But the Radio Freq signals collide with eachother in the air which can majorly decrease ur performance....Though u would not notice it.. it is there. Not saying wifi hashing is bad. It's just insecure and less consistent
I do not hash WIFI. You see a little bit of that switch I posted on the top shelf and cat 5e cords; no WIFI  |
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May I ask.. What your trying to tell me? I dont get it. Your trying to tell me things that I know more about. Networking is my specialty. read my posts and itll all make more sense. PS. Dont hash on WIFI. If u got a 5GH/z line... Go for it.. but if not.. dont bother. I mean 1-2 miners is okay. But the Radio Freq signals collide with eachother in the air which can majorly decrease ur performance....Though u would not notice it.. it is there. Not trying to tell you anything UNLESS you were not familiar with a MAC and only fiddled with PC. By the way, the switch specifications I showed you also had 100 BASE T and 1000 BASE T on 5, 5e cable. Not sure if you saw that in the specifications I listed or not. I went back to edit it and made them red as well. |
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The specifications on that switch I posted:
HARDWARE FEATURES
Standards and Protocols IEEE 802.3i, IEEE 802.3u, IEEE 802.3ab, IEEE 802.3x
Interface 48 10/100/1000Mbps RJ45 Ports (Auto Negotiation/Auto MDI/MDIX)
Network Media 10BASE-T: UTP category 3, 4, 5 cable (maximum 100m)
100BASE-TX/1000BASE-T: UTP category 5, 5e or above cable (maximum 100m)
Fan Quantity 2
Dimensions ( W x D x H ) 17.3*10.2*1.7 in. (440*260*44 mm)
Power Consumption Maximum: 34.9W (220V/50Hz)
Power Supply 100-240VAC, 50/60Hz
PERFORMANCE
Switching Capacity 96Gbps
MAC Address Table 8K
Buffer Memory 16Mb
Packet Forwarding Rate 71.4Mpps
Jumbo Frame 10KB
Transfer Method Store-and-Forward
OTHERS
Certification FCC, CE, RoHS
Package Contents 48-Port Gigabit Rackmount Switch
Power Cord
Installation Guide
Rackmount Kits
Rubber Feet
System Requirements Microsoft® Windows® 8, 7,Vista™, XP or MAC® OS, NetWare®, UNIX® or Linux.
Environment Operating Temperature: 0℃~40℃ (32℉~104℉);
Storage Temperature: -40℃~70℃ (-40℉~158℉);
Operating Humidity: 10%~90% non-condensing;
Storage Humidity: 5%~90% non-condensing
Warranty 5 years limited warranty. Advanced replacement
SOME specs on my Apple Airport Extreme Base Station (ROUTER):
Interoperable with 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, and 802.11ac-enabled Mac computers, iOS devices, Apple TV, Windows-based PCs, and other Wi-Fi devices
NAT, DHCP, PPPoE, VPN Passthrough (IPSec, PPTP, and L2TP), DNS Proxy, IPv6 (6to4 and manual tunnels)
All of my miners are setup via DHCP through my Apple Airport Extreme Base Station; not static IP. I have a static IP through my internet provider set up through my business. I can connect to any of my devices at the house through this static IP provided by my internet provider. Apple makes it pretty easy to do that.
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Lol If i had any Cash. Even if I had $10,000 I wouldnt buy BTc or Hardware. I would build a building big enough to host a few TH/s or maybe a PH/s but small enough to be easier maintain at the lower level It's my goal. make a building say. 20-30feet by 30 feet by 30 feet. And filll it ALL up with BITCOIN hardware, Having probably 2 Networks so say 50-150 Miners with 2-3 Networks to minimize Crosstalk and noise... Also to reducde Collision domains. The more miners u have on one network the more collisions Domains you have... Thus increasing HWE and Dropped worked. and increase probability more Networks for ur miners say 1 network for every 50 miners = Less Noise/Crosstalk, Less collision Domains. But in total. Itll be enough to make some real money. Probably have 2 1200-3000CFM Fans going fill tilt 24/7 possibly Air Con controlled. theres 25million Bitcoin in the world to be mined. and we in total to this day have only mined about 3600-3800 so we got MUCH MUCH TIme untill the market plummets. Mine as well work my way up there so when the time comes...... The profit rolls in. Lol Ill probably run a huge server room with Antminer S3s S2s and possibly some Dragon Miners, I'm all for the standalone miners.  Oh the Future and our dreams... if only it was realness/. Actually, if BTC price goes high enough; like $900.00 per BTC. I may end up getting my power company to put a 240V/400 AMP service meter on the side of my house. That's in addition to the 240V/200AMP service meter I already have. My entire recreation room would be used as a warehouse with no costs for lease/rent each month. I would have two (2) 14 inch exhaust fans in each of my windows in the recreation room to suck out the heat. My recreation room is 13' x 25' with 8' ceilings. We never spend time in the recreation room anyway. We spend most of our time in the family room upstairs on the main level. I have a split foreure (spelling) house. The 400 AMP service meter would provide another thirteen (13) 240V/30AMP - 7,200 WATT circuits; enough to power a total of 65 S4's with PDU's to go along with the 25 S4's I would have running on the 200 AMP service meter. Ninety (90) S4's at 2 Th/s each would be 180 Th/s. Not bad for a HOME farm without the additional costs for leasing/renting a warehouse/building somewhere. Also, I would want it at the house to avoid worries about a potential burglar or arsonist. I already have video/audio surveillance set up at the house connected to the internet with a static IP. So, I can watch and listen in if I happen to be away from the house for a while or on vacation. IF BTC got as much as $2,500.00 each, THEN I would get a warehouse somewhere with approximately 4 employees and have as much as .4 to .75 Ph/s. Hell, I might consider building a 30' x 30' shop in the back yard to put all of that in if BTC got up to $2,500.00 each. If BTC went to crap afterwards, I would convert it into a wood working shop for my hobby of building furniture and painting portraits of people. I'm actually a pretty damn good artist. Yes, dreaming is fun at times. It would be even more fun if it came to pass. Nothing wrong with dreaming. By the way, if you have damn good switches you don't have to worry about collisions/crosstalk. My TP-Link switch is a damn good switch! I would have 2 of those with all ports filled to the max if I had the 90 S4's in my house as I had mentioned previously.  |
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something (outside air) has to replace the house air that is drawn through the closet and ultimately to the outside.
Also, when you say "something (outside air) has to replace the house air," just wanted to let you know you should have a "RETURN VENT" in your house/apartment that sucks the "INSIDE AIR" through the return then the condensers then out the vents... over and over and over again. But again, yes, the 14 inch exhaust fan will suck cool air from the recreation room through the 16 inch x 25 inch vent in the closet door and outside from the garage. I will have it vented from the garage to the outside by the time summer gets here. Thanks again for the props!!! David |
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Don't be surprised if your home cooling costs go up in the summer. If your house is the source of air to the closet, then it will no doubt draw warm air in from outside, which will get cooled, at a cost, by you house AC. Probably less than 800 watts, but unlikely zero cost.
How will it draw warm air in from outside when it will be blowing hot air from the closet to the outside like a jet engine? something (outside air) has to replace the house air that is drawn through the closet and ultimately to the outside. OP: sweet setup  There you go Now you said it correctly. I knew that. Thanks for the props!!! I will have french doors installed by summer downstairs to keep from sucking as much of the cool air from upstairs to the down stairs closet. I will use fans in the house next summer as well; along with ceiling fans. Have the AC set on 77 in the house and if I have to turn on the AC in the closet, so be it. The downstairs is usually always 8 to 10 degrees cooler than the upstairs. I have a split foryer (spelling) house. The main level is upstairs. Office, Recreation room, full bath and 3 closets are downstairs. I want to close off the recreation room with french doors. That will keep the cool air upstairs from going downstairs as much. Don't think I was being a smart ass. I was about to mention in another post that it will still suck cool air I generate from the House AC out of the house. |
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Don't be surprised if your home cooling costs go up in the summer. If your house is the source of air to the closet, then it will no doubt draw warm air in from outside, which will get cooled, at a cost, by you house AC. Probably less than 800 watts, but unlikely zero cost.
How will it draw warm air in from outside when it will be blowing hot air from the closet to the outside like a jet engine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DxbWXo4dF4 |
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I hope so! I am really getting tired of the slow and steady decline. I hope the trend will change soon.
Lots of support out there. LOTS!!! I believe many are starting to get in now while it's cheap before the twins start their ETF I wish I had even $10,000 in extra cash laying around. I would put it all in BTC even at these prices right now. |
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Just a screen shot of "speculation" about BTC reaching $500.00 around Nov. 21 or Nov. 22 It shows it coming back down to around $375 to $380 again and stabilizing. Then, shooting back up again to the moon.  |
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BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization We are pleased to announce Antpool (antpool.com) which is open for users all around the world. BITMAIN has invested significant resources into developing a bitcoin pool based on the p2pool mining protocol. BITMAIN reaffirms its commitment to help decentralize the Bitcoin network, strengthen the Bitcoin eco-system and put the majority of hashing power into the hands of consumers. The p2pool protocol prevents hashing power being controlled by one central entity (the pool owner), and has been significantly developed during the development of Antpool. All p2pool code will be open sourced and uploaded on BITMAIN’s Github link this week https://github.com/bitmaintech/p2pool. Antpool supports solo mining as well. Antpool has been proven to be stable and secure through its long testing period. From August 22th to November 10th, 295 blocks were found and 7398 Bitcoins were mined. Further stats can be found here link https://www.antpool.com/poolStats.htm. Antpool can be found at antpool.com, while miners now can connect at stratum.antpool.com:3333 for pooled mining, and will be able to connect at p2p.antpool.com:3333 for p2p mining this week. Pool nodes are deployed around the world to improve performance and provide redundancy. Miners are automatically routed their closest location, including: - United States
- Germany
- Hong Kong
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Features- 0% fees and PPLNS earnings.
- Graphical displays for hashing speeds, income and pool statistics.
- Email warnings for underperforming miners.
- API and third party application support.
- Support for miner groups, group statistics and management.
Forum & Ticket System Users are able to access to Antpool with their BITMAIN account. The log in and ticket system is unified across all BITMAIN services, which allows communication and support to be more efficient. Miners now can buy mining rigs from bitmaintech.com and chose hosting service at Umisoo and mine at antpool.com. Your feedback is important for us to develop and improve our products. Ticket page: support.bitmain.com Forum Page: forum.bitmain.com Thanks for sharing! My first S4 just left Shenzhen, China 11/12/2014 7:27 P.M. Origin Scan Thank you for your contribution! |
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Yeah, that's no good. I should have realized just by looking at the picture, it has 1 Green (ground) 1 Black (120v) and 1 white (neutral).
So you'll only be sending 120v to the S4, and it will consume 11.66a instead of 5.83a. No good. A PDU outputs 240v, not 120v.
I'd seriously consider returning everything you bought, and replacing your L14-30 with good quality (Hubble) L6-30R sockets. Generally what you'll find in hardware stores aren't the best quality. You could also consider making your own wiring harness for the L14-30 instead of buying an extension or a PDU.
I agree with you 100% That means I ought to exchange the 100 feet of 10/3 wire I purchased for 100 feet of 10/2 as well? I believe the L6-30R socket only has 3 terminals... correct? I can save about $20 right there. If they allow returning the wire, yes. You only need 10/2. If they won't take the wire back you can still use the 10/3, you just won't connect the white wire to anything. It's still in its packaging. Has not been opened yet. I decided to keep the 10/3 in case I or the next owner of my house needs options to make changes. I just will not use the white wire. You've been a BIG help. Thank you for your time and professionalism! |
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Yeah, that's no good. I should have realized just by looking at the picture, it has 1 Green (ground) 1 Black (120v) and 1 white (neutral).
So you'll only be sending 120v to the S4, and it will consume 11.66a instead of 5.83a. No good. A PDU outputs 240v, not 120v.
I'd seriously consider returning everything you bought, and replacing your L14-30 with good quality (Hubble) L6-30R sockets. Generally what you'll find in hardware stores aren't the best quality. You could also consider making your own wiring harness for the L14-30 instead of buying an extension or a PDU.
I agree with you 100% That means I ought to exchange the 100 feet of 10/3 wire I purchased for 100 feet of 10/2 as well? I believe the L6-30R socket only has 3 terminals... correct? I can save about $20 right there. |
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