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2361  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Developing countries using bitcoin: Is it possible? on: July 12, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
Side note: I found this in your trust ratings and found it telling...
BTC-e Help Me Please 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-11-15   0.00000000      "Talks out his ass alot, Unwilling to help anyone but himself."

Ha! Ha! That guy got angry because I did not give him enough sympathy. If you look at his post history you will see he disappeared after that. I help out a lot in the electrum forum and get thanked a lot. Perhaps you should take a closer look at my post history instead of judging me from some fly by night's tantrums.
2362  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It Takes 14 Million Android Phones to Earn One Bitcoin on: July 12, 2014, 01:58:03 AM
It sounds crazy and non-efficient (seeing it as an ordinary person), but what if someone creates a virus which infects a lot of phones worldwide

and whenever that guy wants it, starts mining without any notice $_$

It's hard to infect 14 million devices.
The time and money spent infecting them would be far greater than any Bitcoin.

14 million is not a lot relatively speaking. There must be at least a billion android devices out there.
2363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Developing countries using bitcoin: Is it possible? on: July 12, 2014, 01:44:11 AM
Bitcoin is designed as a method of transaction, not as a stock to speculate on. Of course everyone wants free easy money with no work, but all you newbs don't seem to get the fact that everyone thinks they are the smartest by doing this and it inevitably results in a weaker market. As a result everyone tries to speculate, contributes nothing to the actual cryptocoin infrastructure, developers are left unsupported, innovation stops, everyone loses. It is time for people to get off their asses and contribute in stead of just waiting for someone else to do the work for you. Cryptocurrency is the most powerful tool humanity has EVER HAD in escaping fiat economic slavery, it is WAY MORE important than personal petty greed.

Well I'm not a noob and we are all here because it's profitable. Unless of course you aren't? In which case you must be some sort of religious person who worships Satoshi.

Anyway remittances are definitely possible with bitcoin. You need a network of agents though. That's how remittances work. Ordinary folk here don't know how to use a computer or the net. They just go to an agent's and he uses a computer and internet connection to process their transaction for them. This way the poor avoid having to deal with the volatility of bitcoin as well. They get the local currency and bitcoin is just a medium for the money transfer.
2364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Developing countries using bitcoin: Is it possible? on: July 11, 2014, 03:46:34 PM
I should like to point out that the idea that you buy bitcoin to escape inflation is a little odd. Bitcoin supply is inflating at the rate of 10% per annum at least. We are all just betting that adoption will be even faster. I don't think poor people have the sort of savings buffer that would allow them to make bets like that. It is too risky for them.

The lack of internet access is not such a big deal. Dumb phone usage is already high. Smart phone prices keep falling. We'll get there soon enough.
2365  Other / Off-topic / Re: Just received 0.00019999 on: July 11, 2014, 09:35:27 AM
Just wondered if anyone knew what this is for?

When you spend money your wallet will take that .000199 plus any other coins in other addresses you own and then send them to whoever you are sending money to. So if someone wants to know which other addresses belong to you they can do that by looking at the blockchain.
2366  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Experts on electrum 1.9.7 unbuntu on: July 11, 2014, 02:20:29 AM
Ic.. so if i see on the top of mine has no watch only wallet means i am on the right track right?
Which means i key in the right seed.

Yep. Addresses should also be familiar ones that you've seen before. The same goes for transactions and balance.

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Anyway how to transform 12 word seed to hex?

You can use the getseed command to see the seed in both hex and mnemonic form. Or you can use mnemonic.py to convert any arbitrary seed from one form to another.

Electrum getseed via command line/shell:

Code:
electrum -w /path/to/wallet/file getseed


mnemonic.py: First find mnemonic.py on your file system then run this:

Code:
python /path/to/mnemonic.py word1 word2... word12
2367  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum will not open network settings after attempt to change. windows 7 64bt on: July 11, 2014, 02:12:57 AM
Shut down electrum. Find your electrum directory and back it up. This is how you find your electrum directory:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Electrum#Wallet_File

Then delete the file named "config" in your electrum directory. Run electrum now and see if the network preferences window will open up.
2368  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Experts on electrum 1.9.7 unbuntu on: July 10, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
See here:

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/463

You can restore using hex digits too. So type in any 31 hex digits instead of 32 and see what happens.

Some combination of mnemonic words must also be triggering this bug. But it is most easily reproduced using the seed in hex.
2369  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Using tablets as bitcoin clients on: July 10, 2014, 12:48:04 AM
This all is then somehow more secure because the wallet is not stored on the active machine, but separately.

Almost. If the wallet isn't on the active machine, it can't be lost or stolen.

What is the definition of active machine then? If the Udoo pc is doing mining then its connected to the Internet and very much an active machine.

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SSH would be configured to accept connections to the wallet only from devices with specific uuids.

I have never heard of such an option. Where in sshd_config is there such an option?

I send a request for x amount of bitcoins, get back a qr code, the merchant scans the code, transaction is done.

It doesn't work like that. You have to specify the recipient's address and amount and it is bitcoind that will send the transaction over the network.
2370  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Experts on electrum 1.9.7 unbuntu on: July 08, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
Yes you should upgrade to 1.9.8. Otherwise educate yourself to avoid this bug:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637223.msg7131692#msg7131692
2371  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum MASTER Needed Please on: July 08, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
Abdussamad thank you very much for this, to add on your reply the ''remainings'':

2: As wallet id, I meant ''address''. For receiving case, you told me I need to share the address to which I want to receive bitcoins. But what if I want to receive the bitcoins funds to address I have never used before? For this I might need to create new address BUT you told me I cannot manually create address (neither one nor more) within electrum. However you said I always have 5 unused ones. This word ''always'' got my attention. Since you were saying so, I assume as soon as I receive ANY bitcoins amount to ANY address, NEW unused address (never been there yet in my electrum) will Automatically occur. Is this correct or not?

Electrum tries to ensure that you have unused address equal to your gap limit. The gap limit is 5 by default. It means if you receive bitcoins to an unused address then electrum will generate a new one to ensure that you have 5 unused ones. If you receive bitcoins to an address that has previously received bitcoins then obviously there is no need to generate new addresses. They were already generated when you received bitcoins to that address the first time. I hope you understand.


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If correct then something needs to happen to either of other addresses - to either the address which got the bitcoin payment and caused (assuming what I previously asked is correct) new address to automatically occur (if to this one, what happens with received payment?) OR to any other one (e.g. the one that has zero balance). Something happens here to old and/or used address otherwise new address wouldn't occur?

Electrum monitors transactions and creates new addresses like I described above. That is all that happens.

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5. Once again assuming my understanding about ''Automatically occur'' above is correct: Since I cannot delete addresses, this means as long as I will actively use electrum, the list of addresses will only raise larger and larger? Obviously I am referring to the RECEIVE tab and Not History tab. In the History tab, its logical the answer on this question is positive but not so logical for RECEIVE tab, thats why I typed this.

Yes it will but addresses that you have spent from are tucked away under 'receive' tab >'main account' > 'used' to reduce clutter. In case you are wondering you can still continue to use them to receive or send bitcoins in future.
2372  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum MASTER Needed Please on: July 07, 2014, 11:36:17 PM
1. I suggest running electrum and using file > save copy to create a backup file for copying to a different computer. On the other computer you can use file > open to use that wallet backup.

2. Bitcoins are sent to addresses. They look like this:

1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE

There is no such thing as a wallet id. Please use the correct terminology so that there is no confusion.

You can only send from addresses that have already received bitcoins. The balance next to the address should show a non-zero number. This is how you send from specific addresses:

https://bitcoinspakistan.com/blog/coin-control-in-electrum/

As far as receiving to a specific address goes, just share the specific address you want to receive to with the payer and that's where they'll send the bitcoins.

You can't create new addresses. They are created automatically so that you always have 5 unused ones. If you want more than that you will have to increase the gap limit. This is not for newbies but if you want to try it is explained here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344115.msg3690179#msg3690179

3. You send from the addresses which have received coins. If you want to see the specific inputs and outputs of a transaction right click on it in the history tab and choose details. If you want to control which addresses you send from see the blog post about coin control that I linked to above.

4. It is the balance of all your addresses.

The wallet will pick and choose inputs from multiple addresses to satisfy your spending requirements. That is what the wallet does automatically and it is why we use wallets instead of individual addresses.

5. You can't delete addresses. No bitcoin client provides this option. The risk of loosing bitcoins is too great.



2373  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Purpose of "hardened key" in BIP32? on: July 06, 2014, 07:07:31 PM
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So hardened keys (which are defined as a child [private]Key produced from an index > 2^31-1) can not be derived from the parent's extendedPubKey.  Is the reason for "hardening" a key to prevent recomputation of the parent's extended[Private]Key (and thus all derived [private]Keys) in the event of the accidental disclosure of a)parent's extendedPubKey AND b) any private key that is a child of that parent?

Yes.

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The obvious advantage is the server has no knowledge of the extended[Private]Key for security reasons. Am I correct to assume this isn't possible to with hardened keys?

Yes.

The idea is that first level of keys from the master key are hardened ones and subsequent levels are the normal ones. This allows you to protect the master private key and get deterministic address generation using extended public keys too (from third level onwards).

edit: see the info here:

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Private wallet keys have one additional power over public keys: only private wallet keys can generate children that use the “prime” directive. This derivation requires information about the secret exponent, which is stripped out of public keys
http://blog.richardkiss.com/?p=313
2374  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Javascript: New address per transaction, 1000's of addresses. on: July 06, 2014, 06:48:46 PM
Hierachical address system could mean deterministic addresses. The standard for those is BIP32. You can generate unlimited addresses from a single extended public key.

You will still need to feed all the unspent outputs into your send transaction though. No way around that.
2375  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Wallet gone, added new now automatic transaction? on: July 04, 2014, 09:53:51 AM
Are you using version 1.9.7? There is a bug in 1.9.7 where if you enter an incorrect seed it creates  a wallet with a seed that is not secret. Any bitcoins sent there are stolen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637223.msg7131692#msg7131692
2376  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: 2 of 4 persons access to the wallet on: July 02, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
This won't work though. To spend from the wallet even once you will need to recreate the entire seed. So from that point onwards one person can access the wallet all by himself. Splitting the seed is ok for backups but not for what you are trying to do.

You will have to wait for multisig which is due in electrum 2.0.
2377  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Cold storage wallet shows zero balance? (Warning: NOOB!) on: July 02, 2014, 01:37:40 PM

Honestly, I think that when Electrum is in offline mode, it should shrink to a minimalistic GUI that just has one button. "Open unsigned transaction" and doesn't show the tabs for receive addresses or anything.


You don't need all that info for your offline wallet, all you need is to sign with it.

No this would be bad. I'd like to be able to see the addresses on my offline wallet so that I know they match the ones on my online one.
2378  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Cold storage/watching wallet - how to determine how many bitcoins are in which? on: July 02, 2014, 01:31:02 PM
Think of your watch only wallet as a window into your cold storage. It allows you to look at but not touch your bitcoins. That 0.002 balance is in your cold storage not on your online computer.

The technical details are as dabura said. The blockchain is a ledger that records transactions and bitcoin is a ledger rather than token based currency.
2379  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Safer Brainwallet with Multi-Hash on: July 01, 2014, 06:01:20 AM
  I would recommend people not rolling their own cryptography. 

 warpwallet did and no one stole their coins....YET.

Warp wallet uses scrypt.

does simply using 2^18 rounds of scrypt qualify as a proper (peer reviewed) KDF?

I don't know. I am not a cryptologist. However, it is not an original algorithm that they are using. They are not rolling their own crypto. It is one of the widely accepted algos listed above. They follow up the scrypt with pbkdf2 as well.
2380  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Safer Brainwallet with Multi-Hash on: June 30, 2014, 07:37:28 AM
  I would recommend people not rolling their own cryptography. 

 warpwallet did and no one stole their coins....YET.

Warp wallet uses scrypt.
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