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2381  Economy / Auctions / Re: GekkoScience miscellaneous auction for 16nm miner dev funding on: October 24, 2016, 08:52:41 PM
Looks like people really like those BW sticks. Won't do much for dev funding but the software guy will get paid, so that's good news.
2382  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 4x Antminer S9 B13 12Th + PSU (actually already mining at Gekkoscience) on: October 24, 2016, 02:06:59 AM
I haven't been keeping tabs on performance, but as far as I know all miners' boards are functional. These are 12.93TH labeled. The only downtime called to my attention was one inordinately hot day (it wasn't supposed to be hot and I probaly had the hosting exhaust fans turned down) when one PSU tripped for overtemp.

I am certainly not opposed to them staying here. There are no fees for transfer of ownership or anything, no hidden setup costs. Just pay the power at the end of the month.








2383  Economy / Auctions / Re: GekkoScience miscellaneous auction for 16nm miner dev funding on: October 22, 2016, 02:54:00 AM
Seems reasonable. Tie bid goes to the earliest bid.
2384  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread on: October 21, 2016, 08:47:08 PM
Have you turned the voltage up a bit from stock? What's it currently set at?
2385  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 5V/12V Molex adapter board, PCIe 6-pin input, 20A capable (GPU rigs and such) on: October 21, 2016, 08:23:25 PM
Or, since it's taking a billion hours to get all the sheathed cables assembled (have I mentioned before that sheathing sucks? Seriously doubles or triples total assembly time) I'll get orders shipped on Monday. Gotta leave for errands and burgers in an hour and that's not enough time to finish cables, let alone finish board assembly.
2386  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: October 20, 2016, 02:21:17 PM
Maybe we should pull from yours and other stashes and make a non-Bitmain source for folks who need 'em.
2387  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly" on: October 20, 2016, 12:49:14 AM
Eh, I'm sure there are other people also doing stuff. But let's make sure to let Bitfury know we're banking pretty heavily on their claim to support the community and decentralize and stuff.
2388  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: s9 batch 17 (and 16?) changes on: October 19, 2016, 10:57:16 PM
I haven't really probed but based on behavior I would guess the micro toggles the main buck's enable line. This was not on the S7. I would also guess but I haven't confirmed that the buck might be hardwired for a particular voltage. The one I looked at today, two adjacent boards had two different voltages. Since it's someone else's machines I'm not willing to poke around on 'em to see what goes where and does what, but if the buck is the same as S7 (looks like it at a glance) the DPOT is left unpopulated. I'd be interested to know if that's the case on the new version. If any of y'all have a board shoot craps and open it up it'd be great to get some high-res pictures of the regulator portion of the board.
2389  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 5V/12V Molex adapter board, PCIe 6-pin input, 20A capable (GPU rigs and such) on: October 19, 2016, 10:44:21 PM
PCBs and all components have arrived. I spent today verifying everything and setting up the pick-and-place for bulk manufacture. I ran one off to test calibrations, completed assembly on it and it's running right now with about 10A of output current on 5V with no trouble.

Tomorrow I'll do all the surface-mount for the batch and start on through-hole.

I got started cutting wires to run out cables last week but ran out of wire; my reorder has arrived. So tomorrow I'll also be finishing up cutting wire and start cable manufacture. I've got some better heatshrink than I had available for the test cables MarkAz got, which means the production batch should come out better. As of right now there doesn't look to be any reason I can't get initial orders shipped out Friday.
2390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Gauging interest around some custom hardware and cabling for GPU rigs on: October 19, 2016, 10:44:05 PM
PCBs and all components have arrived. I spent today verifying everything and setting up the pick-and-place for bulk manufacture. I ran one off to test calibrations, completed assembly on it and it's running right now with about 10A of output current on 5V with no trouble.

Tomorrow I'll do all the surface-mount for the batch and start on through-hole.

I got started cutting wires to run out cables last week but ran out of wire; my reorder has arrived. So tomorrow I'll also be finishing up cutting wire and start cable manufacture. I've got some better heatshrink than I had available for the test cables MarkAz got, which means the production batch should come out better. As of right now there doesn't look to be any reason I can't get initial orders shipped out Friday.
2391  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: s9 batch 17 (and 16?) changes on: October 19, 2016, 06:08:46 PM
Far as I can tell, the buck circuit is basically the same as the S7. U2 is the part replaced by a trimpot in the Cheap and Easy S7 Repair thread from a few months ago that has a bunch of pictures already.
2392  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: s9 batch 17 (and 16?) changes on: October 19, 2016, 04:04:32 PM
I know most folks don't really take stuff apart, but can someone confirm whether or not the new-batch S9 boards have the U2 digital potentiometer populated? The ones I've looked at from older batches don't, and I haven't seen any adjustments in voltage during startup so I wonder if these aren't made for a fixed core voltage. The new ones look to be adjusting voltage on the fly, like S7 boards should have been capable of, so either they're doing something unexpected or that dpot should be on there.
2393  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: October 18, 2016, 01:04:41 PM
That is true, he asked for an address where to send the coin back in April or so. Now that everyone's here and talking, maybe you two can figure something out.
2394  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: October 18, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
I will say there was some delay getting me updated datasheets because the manufacture batch had been changed from the sample batch. I don't really know what the changes were but presumably they were improvements. So if Bitfury took an extra couple months stepping things up a notch I'm pretty sure that's a good thing.
2395  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: October 17, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
I don't have any answers to those questions, because I have not yet received answers to those questions. I'm encouraged because Punin came to me at the end of August to say he was shipping me samples and how many did I want, which is pretty great because I hadn't tried to chase him down in a couple months. He's given ballpark estimates for chip pricing but it' just ballpark because he said they were still lining out how they were gonna do sales and distribution and whatnot. They've already been more cooperative than anyone I've dealt with in the last 16 months, and he's done really good in the past with their 55nm chips, so I'm banking pretty heavily on this deal working out.

As far as Bitfury goes, I'm not really sure what (from the little I know) I'm officially authorised to say or not. Pretty much all I will say is they got me samples and datasheets and I'm already started working on new stuff. I figure that PR can't possibly hurt them within the community, because it's about the first real effort any major manufacturer has done proactively to help the community in about a year.
2396  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: October 17, 2016, 11:30:01 PM
Ah, now I understand VR parts. You meant cores more-or-less literally (inductive cores). No, I probably won't reuse those, but I will probably pull the TPS chips for other things.

Also, the auction is now live. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652091.msg16598805
2397  Economy / Auctions / GekkoScience miscellaneous auction for 16nm miner dev funding on: October 17, 2016, 11:27:57 PM
So I have a crew working on development for 16nm miners intended specifically for consumers. This includes a single-chip stickminer, a 10-chip pod miner and ~400W S1-chassis-compatible boards. But dev costs money and to help raise money I'm auctioning off some of the test setup stuff from previous miner design work.

This includes three prototypes of a BW LK1402 Compac for which drivers are currently being written. The chip manufacturer has opted not to sell ASICs so no more will be made, but the software was already well under way when this was found out. The original plan was to pay the coder a percentage of sales, but if there's no production there can't be sales. The proceeds from the auction of the three LK1402 Compac prototypes will help make up for that; he plans to finish out the driver which means these sticks should be functional miners.

Here's a list of what I've got up for grabs, in what quantities.



A3218 Compac - Unpopulated PCB x 12
   These are some test PCBs for Compac stickminers designed around Avalon's A3218 ASIC. Unfortunately there wasn't enough available information to really get things to communicate properly. One complete prototype was assembled and sent to the programmer but it never went anywhere.

BM1385 Compac, fully assembled x 1
   This Compac is built around a Bitmain BM1385 ASIC harvested from an S7 miner. I could never get the chip to talk, and since it's a 0.35mm pitch QFN and the chips suck to harvest anyway I wasn't too upset about it. I only built the one. It did successfully test a new power layout, so that's handy.

BM1385 Compac - Unpopulated PCB x 4
   The above-described miner, just bare PCBs.

Populated V1.1 Amita x 4
   The "Amita" is the pod-miner product line I want to actually exist someday. I did go through multiple BM1384 prototypes with varying levels of success, but since the BM1384 is painfully outdated I gave up on it. The platform mostly became a testbench for power, stability and manufacturing precision. These boards are built around 8x BM1384 ASICs in a bucked string topology and are, for the most part, populated with all node-level components and a functional power circuit. They probably don't work for one reason or another. Some were rewired to scab onto an S5 controller.

Unpopulated V1.1 Amita x 3
   The Amita is intended to have a USB connection and built-in microcontroller for fan speed and voltage adjustment. However, we didn't get around to writing the code for that part. All the footprints are there on this initial version, except I screwed up one of the jacks.

Unpopulated V1.3 Amita x 8
   The original (V1.1) test pod was designed for USB but that part was never implemented. On this second version I was more focused on just having a closed solution that worked, so I redid the power layout and removed all microcontroller stuff in exchange for an 18-pin jack, simulating an 8-chip S5 board the S5 controller would work with transparently. Ideally it would have been mass-producible but I still had some problems with stable voltage levels at the ASICs. Couple that with the BM1384 being a year old at that point and it wasn't really feasible.

Assembled V1.1 Amita x 1 (starting bid 0.1BTC)
   This is an initial-test-version Amita which has been fully assembled with a proper cooler. I completed two of these but am keeping the first for my own archive. This one was wired up a little more stably to function off an S5 controller. The original concept was to make it compatible with Intel LGA1155 CPU coolers and with Freezer7 coolers that a lot of people might have dozens of laying around after the Technobit HEX4M debacle. This board is assembled with one of those.

Assembled V1.3 Amita x 1 (starting bid 0.1BTC)
   I'll be giving up on CPU cooler compatibility on future Amita projects because it wastes a lot of board space trying to fit arbitrary standards, but the BM1384 Amita in both prototyped versions still used that concept. The ASICs are compressed into a 3x3cm square to fit under a Freezer7 cooler base or inside the center billot of a standard Intel cooler. This V1.3 Amita is fully assembled (including 18-pin jack and S5-compatible temperature sensor) but I don't recall offhand how functional it actually was.

Hacked S5 8-chip test board x 1
   This was my original bucked string topology test. It was a concept Novak and I came up with right around the same time ASICMiner (remember those guys?) announced the BE300 test specs, which was really what got us interested in miner design. We spent a full two days discussing the features and attributes we'd like to see in a miner. We wanted to combine voltage adjustability with the reduced parts count of string topology, so the obvious result is a high-voltage buck converter on a short string (like the S7 and S9 now use in a fixed-voltage form). My initial test of this used a hacked TPS53355 circuit rewired for variable 2.4-3.2V (instead of fixed 0.8V) powering a rewired section from an S5 board, which worked pretty well once some power kinks were ironed out. This became the basis for the Amita prototype boards.



Unpopulated 18-chip string test board x 2
   The eventual goal of my miner design projects is to bring to market an S1-chassis-compatible board kit using modern chips. Thanks to Bitmain's early (and subsequently abandoned) leveraging of interchangeable parts, a board that'll fit on an S1 will also work on an S3 and an S5. These chassis have been tested to dissipate upwards of 500W without a lot of the reliability concerns which have plagued their later high-density designs, and they can be found for pretty cheap on the secondhand market. Our initial idea was to make each S1 a four-board kit (two boards per heatsink) where each board could operate as a ~100W standalone, not unlike what RockMiners did with several miner chassis designs based around the same PCB. This concept survives in a few half-S1 prototype PCBs designed for external power, basic UART signaling (intended for an external USB adapter) and 18 chips in a 3p6s string configuration.

Lemon BM1384 Compac x 12 (minimum bid 0.16BTC)
   I'd like to sell these as a single unit if possible. I've gone through something like three thousand of these stickminers from start to finish - all our manufacturing is done in-house - and I've had a few that I just got tired of fiddling with. Some might have PCB issues, some might just be boneheaded oversights on my part, but most are pretty much fully populated (though none have heatsinks, since those aren't installed until they pass initial testing). I don't know how many someone industrious could get working again.

Amita V1.1 stencil
   This is a 30x40 stainles steel stencil for the Amita V1.1 stencil. Darn thing had enough pads (several hundred) that it was well worth buying a proper stencil instead of trying to grease by hand. Most of the parts were in the same place on the V1.3 so it was reusable.

BM1385 Compac stencil
   This is also a 30x40 stainless steel stencil, for the BM1385 Compac prototype. I ended up reusing the power layout on a couple future versions so this one was reusable as well. The Compac has few enough parts that I didn't really need it that much though.



BW LK-1402 Compac Prototype x 3 (minimum bid 0.08BTC)
   The software is still in the works on this - an initial cgminer version already exists, but we're having trouble getting the initial prototype to hash on all cores. Even with all the overhead, right now it's still more than twice the hashrate of a BlockErupter at less than half the power. When it's working properly it should top out around 50GH at maximum overclock. Hopefully we can make that happen.

BW LK-1402 Compac unpopulated PCB
    I only had 4 sample ASICs and will keep the first prototype for my archives, which means at most three more functional sticks will be made unless BW decides to open up sales. That leaves me with a single unpopulated PCB someone can have.

Of course I always have regular power supply gear and custom cabling and other things available for sale over here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940317.0) and I really like selling that stuff because it's my actual income. But if this auction is a success it'll greatly help to fund dev efforts on future miner projects. Especially the BW sticks, which will pay the programmer for the work he did on 'em.

I've put minimum bids on things I'd like to get at least that much for, probably because of the materials and stuff in 'em. Shipping will have to be arranged between me and the buyer, shipped from MO, US 65401. Sales must be paid for within 24 hours of the auction ending, paid to address 1GekkosciLeaey8Na9siC8oD5HcMtLnWwd

The action will end Monday 10/24 at 5PM CST. Any bids submitted after that time won't count. Standard rules apply - quantity @ price in a post on this thread counts as a submission. If the highest bidder doesn't take 'em all the next-highest bidder can match price. Any items not paid for within 24 hours of the auction will be offered to the next highest bidder. Alright guys, be civil.
2398  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: October 17, 2016, 10:55:59 PM
Just the mechanical parts would be reused. There wasn't any control compatibility between S1, S3 and S5, and it's incredibly (and foolishly) limiting to use someone else's controls on a new project that's supposed to be actually good and useful and flexible, so there's no controller parts reused. The TypeZero boards should be designed around the same basic control set used on the Amita pod miner (and stripped down a bit for the Compac) which means USB connectivity, so you could use whatever controller you can compile the cgminer for.

Yeah I got your S1s, and a bunch I got elsewhere, and a bunch of S3 and S5 cores. I'm hoping that I can set up a core-exchange kind of thing for people who want to buy intact miners, where they can send in a retired S1/3/5 miner and I'll send back a model-match preassembled TypeZero with free shipping. I would really like the people who bought just the boards, but not everyone's really capable of handling that kind of thing.
2399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Gauging interest around some custom hardware and cabling for GPU rigs on: October 17, 2016, 09:18:06 PM
I'm not sure how many amps, but PCIe spec calls for up to 3A of 3.3V so if it's a linear regulator off 5V it could be that high. MarkAZ said his setup ran more like 2A each.

This board will push 20A on both 5V and 12V simultaneously.
2400  Bitcoin / Hardware / GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: October 17, 2016, 08:15:10 PM
UPDATED NEWS - 2PAC 2xBM1384 USB STICKMINER SALES IS LIVE - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1718358

Pending projects:
 - 20xBM1384 Pod
 - 2xBF16 USB Stick
 - 11xBF16 Pod
 - 33xBF16 S1/3/5-compatible board

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So, a shameless plug followed by a basic announcement, both of which might result in plenty of discussion.

First, as the subject line states, I've got some 16nm ASICs to play with for new designs.

However, development costs money. Prototype and material costs, paying people to help, stuff like that. To help raise some funds I'm going to be auctioning off some of the remnants of previous projects, including parts and prototypes from abandoned Compac designs (A3218, BM1385 etc) as well as some pod test parts and general "memorabilia".

It's all stuff that would be interesting to keep in my archive, except I don't really need an archive. What I do need is dev funds to keep rolling projects forward. I especially need dev funds to pay my programmer (forum user "vh") for the work he's done on a cgminer driver for a 14nm Compac I won't be able to mass-produce because the chip supplier has decided not to sell to third parties.

Fun part is, vh is continuing to work on the new driver even though the sticks won't be mass-produced. The prototype already hashes, albeit not at full speed but we're sure that's only a kink to be worked out. I only have three additional sample chips, so as the capstone of the auction I'll be selling off those three sticks and using the proceeds to pay for the software dev. So whoever gets 'em will wind up with an extremely-limited-edition stickminer that, who knows, might hit 100GH by itself.

I'll be starting a thread in the Auctions section and linking to it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652091.msg16598805
Auction is live, and will run until Monday 10/24 5PM CST.


So, in new product news, I have new news for newsing.

Within the last month I have received samples and datasheets for Bitfury's 16nm ASIC. I haven't gotten official word on pricing and availability yet, but everything I've heard points favorably toward availability for third parties. I've already started on a new Compac stickminer; Novak is back to help with embedded controls, and vh is sticking around for the cgminer driver. It'll be built off the well-tested BM1384 Compac power design, with some improvements to improve stability at extreme overclocking, and with an entirely new controls set that should allow for temperature monitoring and software voltage adjustment. I've already sent Novak a PCB layout with everything except controls integrated, and he's already picked out the chip he wants to use. I'm really hoping to be testing a prototype around the middle of November but that's pretty up-in-the-air right now. It'd be great to start shipping final product for Christmas but that depends on chip supplies and dev progress.

The cool thing about the new microcontroller setup is, it should port pretty easily to multi-chip designs, especially with Bitfury's comm multiplexer. Layout work has already been started on a "pod" miner that I would like to see hit 700GH, and the same framework can extend to S1 refit boards that, I'm just spitballing here, could see 4-6TH per pair depending on the chip specs and final configuration.

So, I don't know about you guys but I'm pretty excited.
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