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2381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best coin under $500k marketcap? on: September 27, 2016, 12:39:43 PM
@NeuroticFish
agree XMG got d potential

@thoth-Atlantian
if your with the WBB i'll give it another look ... but i just have difficulty evaluating a straight POW scrypty going high in the charts
fork it to another less ASIC algo and this loud Beast camp has something Wink

@yallUyall
$UNO
base pair
null inflation
2382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC! on: September 27, 2016, 12:14:17 PM
I added a chat room to Unobtanium.uno

Check it out and if you guys like it, maybe Learminer will let us keep it.



Just logged in ... (looks like everyone is napping, just now).

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#unobtanium

Z

What gives?  Anyone chatting here? let folks know when or give a window of likely activity to check in.  I'll hang out for next hour.

Maybe a weekend and/or weekday strategy session once/twice a week

not a bad idea
i will try to make a regular habit of participating in weekend chat
perhaps we focus on once or bimonthly super session chat
Rally Days Wink
2383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OSC]OpenSourcecoin Mandatory Update 7/1/14 on: September 27, 2016, 02:42:01 AM
Re: Multi currency wallet?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1627583.0

2384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PoS coins on: September 26, 2016, 04:14:03 PM
Looking to find a top 10 staking coins, in terms of % return. I am looking for what would be the best 10 in regards to %return for month to month staking.

I am familiar with hyp hyper dmd bitb net ok and hodl, however I am looking for some more to test for staking and in particular looking for the best %returns, and obviously the ability to buy / sell them easily on an exchange if necessary. I know there are people here that prefer PoS coins vs PoW so just looking for a few more to play with. Suggestions ?



DarkNet (DNET) for the Win!! Smiley

congrats on appearing on the map,
BUT
in Maintenance it is
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=DNET
2385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PoS coin with zero interest payout? on: September 26, 2016, 03:11:32 PM
NXT still requires holding a massive share to make it even worth a Doge a post stakes.

Also it is a whole other ball of Cheddar cheese.

Less the fact, NXT, in current state being less focus on the stake returns, more focus on the colored coin side chain-age features.
Wink

Theoretical chain exploration is more the intent here.  

That said I think the Graphene type of fast and data rich 2.0 chains are kick ass, and doubt others unless they get with the program can keep up.
2386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Multi currency wallet? on: September 26, 2016, 01:34:53 PM
https://coinomi.com/
It's an android wallet with multi-currency support.

imagine
bot boxes holding 'coinomi' brokerage trades for 3osecs  ELSE return to sender
transparent / low risk
ez decentralized
'i'm trading on da shitter' universe .. coming soon!  
2387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PoS coin with zero interest payout? on: September 26, 2016, 01:29:39 PM
No staking rewards means people are going to set their reservebalance to maximum and stop staking, which leaves your network vulnerable to attack. I wouldn't recommend it.

yes.  And I just said the incentive is if you wish to move from A to B then stake;
else the network does not move for 30-90 minutes.

BONUS is that you gain all fees in that window of time.

As popular demand picks up then that spans can shrink to to 3-9 seconds and as it wanes return to 30-90 minutes.
2388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [HYP] HyperStake | High PoS | Secure | MultiSend | liteStake | Adv Coin Control on: September 26, 2016, 01:24:26 PM
still in a state of shock on how HYP
completely hyper_cubically collapsed in market cap!

anyone care to explain in rough detail?
2389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ARC] AquariusCoin | scrypt PoW/PoS | NO premine | 42M ARC on: September 26, 2016, 01:22:09 PM
oddly the timing of this brand is very brilliantine.
yet i have no clue on the feasibility.
2390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BlueCoin (ß) |Hybrid Consensus | Cold Staking | Bluetooth | 3% Annual Rewards on: September 26, 2016, 01:19:52 PM
Brah!

Can you point me to a working blockchain?!
2391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ultracoin] [Est. Feb 2014] ~ ASIC Resistant & Ultrafast 6 Second Transactions! on: September 26, 2016, 01:18:34 PM
@DEADTROUT

does this coin still trade on Cryptsy?
2392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PoS coin with zero interest payout? on: September 26, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
in any active network you are going to see lost coins; from people sending to incorrect addresses, to people losing their .dat files, etc, so if you have 0 rewards then it essentially means that the currency would be deflationary, and people have no incentive to stake.  So all you have to do is have a staking reward that is just high enough to make up for lost coins, the overall supply won't increase but people will still have incentive to support the network.  Monero's (PoW) planned tail-emission I believe is designed for this exact situation, I'm sure you could do something similar with PoS.

agree.  incentive is required to keep the chain moving.
I suggest the alternative is ...

1. you have coins and want to move them then risk capital if your claim is false. A new feature.
2. observers can benefit from proving a claim FALSE.
3. benefit comes from playing by the rules, and only claiming right if and only if you have the needed requisite to move the chain +1 more block.
4. should the chain stagnate ... then it moves slowly ... (PoW) planned tail-emission are muted as much as possible ... thus low inflation ... more specifically these POS planned tail-emission are released only upon network demands to speed up the chain and act like (PoW) planned tail-emissions.  They gear up and down.
5.  yes permissioned ledger it is Grin anyone see an alternative?
2393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC! on: September 26, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
UNO could be $20 in two years, yes. If capital comes to UNO. With the supply it doesn't take much to move it.

easy target.
secret sauce is in the numbers:

FACT >> under 200 tonnes of UNO.   Takes less than $2000 to buy-in a 1/200th share ... today.  Tonage is still on the open 'public' markets.  Buy 10kg/week for 2 years at you'll get there if inclined.

WILDCARD ... big verns ... oppps ... yes UNO community really pulled his magic carpet ride ... what happens to the full lot is a bit of a black swan ... but 18 months from now ... fairly safe assumption to project the price discovery re-stabilizes to expectation  ... had the event not even occurred ...  bonus points for community consensus collectively keeping the market in idle until things become more certain.

if the community collectively holds enough ... BTC, LTC, ETH, ETC, XMR, DOGE, FTC, dollars, CYN, JPY, fiat etc, crypto etc, various commodities, and gold, silver, real estate to balance the trade the slow strong hands can ratchet up notch by notch.



turtle power approved TM
2394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PoS coin with zero interest payout? on: September 26, 2016, 10:53:56 AM
b) the sender and only the initial sender 'stakes' .... perhaps they post a 'bond' which can be claimed by witness if the TX is proven invalid ... any one sending coins in a 3 min target window would ride on the same block ... so perhaps a fee reward to the 1st sender incentive.

b) would be an interesting network ... likely very light weight ... only a couple 100 blocks per day.


if I recall correct
FLT is built on some kind of 'velocity' concept;
thus active participants would pay themselves to collect the 'network' reward;
so in hindsight my suggested plan B is likely just the FLT scheme ... still would like to see a network where the staker claims the right but has to post a bond, witnesses can counter, and claim that bond if the TX is invalid.

the only 'twist' is that the staker gets rights on the fees from piggyback riders on his block ... determined by difficulty variable ... but focus on keeping a smooth chain time cycle, so recalculated quickly to the target average.  also this allows for the network to run dormant or at low 'velocity' only adding to the block chain if and only if some one piggybacks ... else the block can remain open and take 30-60min to confirm for single TX issues.

so the chain defaults to a light weight state (data wise) if it is not popularly utilized.

re: how to charge the system with capital .... ?

we've done the ninja POW thing, so 2014, likely would take a consortium of validated capital to pledge base line value, and then float a new network with underwrit value.
2395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪BϾϾ✪ on: September 25, 2016, 05:33:38 PM
is there anyway to find out if I was apart of the airdrop for talk? or just forget about it?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-44Y21DQq9wQ1nm_9jPZpy-9Zht5YAECcnobqEWEUc0/edit?pli=1#gid=0

if youre willing to sync a wallet and stake I will donate a portion of my lot Wink
2396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪BϾϾ✪ on: September 25, 2016, 05:29:49 PM
cap of $30M http://www.clubcha.in/
?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1292870
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hello stones ... classic orginal POS/pow
2397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC! on: September 25, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
@Z ... I don't think we formally named our version of the satoshi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28mass%29
perhaps we utilize the nomenclature of science Wink


106 g    Mg    megagram (tonne)    1000 UNOS
103 g    kg    kilogram                  1kg UN
102 g    hg    hectogram               0.1 UNdime
101 g    dag    decagram                0.01 UNpenny
gram                                              0.001 UN gram
10−1 g    dg    decigram                0.0001
10−2 g    cg    centigram                0.00001000
10−3 g    mg    milligram                0.00000100
10−6 g    µg    microgram                0.00000010
10−9 g    ng    nanogram               0.00000001

nanogram of UN?


odd coincidence
1×10−12 kg    Average human cell (1 nanogram)
pound of flesh?


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random wiki science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ununoctium  heaviest element


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SORRY i'm dumb
10−3 g    mg    milligram                0.00000100 kg

10−6 g    µg    microgram                0.000000001 kg

so the smallest unit  would be:
10µg or 10−5 grams
OR
1/100th of a milligram    / 0.o1mg UN

so between milli AND micro

i like microns of UN  Grin
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current reward 0.00390625 or 3.90625 grams of UN
0.00000001 kg UNO = 10 µg    '10 microgram un'    

outstanding supply
197,378,000,000,000 nanograms microns of UNO

more less fix at under 20 trillion nanos
200 trillion microns UN
2398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪BϾϾ✪ on: September 25, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
anti
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283271.0
2399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OSC]OpenSourcecoin Mandatory Update 7/1/14 on: September 25, 2016, 01:43:41 PM
There is no operational cost savings to using a #blockchain except as an immutable, distributed datastore. That's it.
2400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PR(o)] ✪ Prototanium 119 ✪ <<财富>> ◣Its like UNO, because it is.◥ on: September 25, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
If we can't afford Chainz explorer, there's still one I bought running at http://cryptobe.com/chain/Prototanium%20(UNO%20Testnet)
PR still in the top 500!


i stopped by to mention this; looks like Knife already brought it up.
Chainz i love and think it is clearly the best explorer.

but PRo is (currently) a small cap coin, so footing $120/year doesn't make sense.

if 4 community members (or more) what to split the bill, i could handle that tax, so need just 3 more Wink


http://cryptobe.com/chain/Prototanium%20%28UNO%20Testnet%29
such a weird url  Roll Eyes
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