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2381  Economy / Economics / Re: How stable will bitcoin be? on: December 11, 2016, 06:09:55 PM
It seems to me that the Bitcoin can not be stable. After all, it is based on supply and demand. And it is very unstable quantity. Fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin is its normal state

Bitcoin's price may fluctuate, but you have to see how much it fluctuates. If the fluctuation is less than say + or -1% a day, I would say that its price has stabilized. The problem right now is the Bitcoin's volatility is higher than most asset classes.

Since we can see how bitcoin rise and low of pricing we cannot totally say that it is stable since we can only predict its % of highland low fluctuation.


yet time will come it might rise higher than that or low lower than predicted % so, the value of bitcoin is not stable yet still rising high. It is acceptable as long as it is rising, the bitcoin price.
Yeah there is low fluctuate but we can not consider it as stable bitcoin will never be stable because it is unpredictable and the price of bitcoin is always relaying on demand and supply.. Because many people are discovering bitcoin and the benefits they are investing in bitcoin that can affect the value of bitcoin.. You can see right now more sites are actually accepting bitcoin as mode of payment unlike last year i experience of some sites are not acept there is a difference right now i saw many site are now adding bitcoin as payment mode.. so more price will increase and bitcoin will never stable..
2382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 11, 2016, 06:06:10 PM
What are some the more idiotic and stupid mistakes that you know you shouldn't have made but did anyway. Yes this includes other none gambling stuff like sending btc to the wrong address. I'm interested to find out the stupid things other people do.  Roll Eyes
The worst thing i and stupid mistakes that i experienced i withdraw my winnings  in wrong bitcoin address. That is very terrible i made in my life i lost 0.2 btc in a minute just one click all gone. I almost cried that day but its my fault.

That's really terrible man, why did you not try to double checked the bitcoin address that you will send your withdrawals? It is all our duties that we need to check again and again the bitcoin addresses that we will send our bitcoin withdrawals. I haven't experienced this yet and that's kind big amount for me 0.2 BTC with just a click it all gone, terrible.
The only chance in making that mistake is by typing your address. But when you just copy it like straight from your wallet then you have no worries thw withdrawal will be sent to you. Also double checking your address is a good step on not having that mistake again. But I don't think that what happened to you is gambling related rather is is a personal mistake.
I heard few weeks ago that someone are sending a wrong address but they are copy their address but after pasting it the address was change every time he copy and paste.. this is type of virus i think if you had this problem in your laptop or computer better to format or whole scan your computer to remove the virus..  i forgot thread which is asking for solution..
They to recheck the address before they will send any bitcoin to other address so that it won't happen that you are sending a wrong address because there is no chargeback unlike paypal that they can reverse the payment..
Always be careful because this is sometimes happenning by many people here and outside of this forum..
2383  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I lay a bitcoin? Where do I start? on: December 11, 2016, 06:03:50 PM
Since you are newbie better to learn first how bitcoin works here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc2en3nHxA4
And make your own bitcoin use electrum https://electrum.org/#download as wallet..
Now if you really want to earn here you should be jr.member above to join in signature campaign..
So first be active every day until you reach jr.member or above and join in some signature cmapaign here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0
2384  Economy / Gambling / Re: New gambling game when you win always (Beta) on: December 10, 2016, 05:01:44 PM
If you're betting and get a return of less than what you bet, you are losing  Roll Eyes

It's not hard to understand this, but maybe OP has not clearly stated this to his players!

No when you open case in price 50 bits you never take reward like 0, you can win 20, 30, 40. So you never loose

How he can say "You NEVER loose" when it's clearly explained that if you open the case of 50 bits you can "win" 20,30,40?
That's don't mean a win in my planet lol  Grin

And so you are open case for price 50 and yes you can get 20, 30, 40 and more. But when you open case you don't get zero. You win always but not in plus always but won Smiley Btw we add https on site Smiley

This is misleading OP. You can't say they won if they did not get more than what they wagered. Think about it like this, I gambled 50 bits and I only got 20 bits back. That means I lost 30 bits. That is considered as a loss. I did not win anything but actually I lost something.

What you mean is that people don't lose everything, they get back a portion of their wager. Which is different from saying you never lose. (Lose and Loose are different words and doesn't mean the same).
Maybe he is talking about that if you bet 50 bits you can still get few bits if you got below the minimum..
Just like you said you place a bet in 50bits and you jsut got 20 bits so for his understanding about this you will still win that amount that actually there is missing that we can consider as lose..

This game is bright idea but maybe for other people it can be intersted.. for me it is boring game..
2385  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Bitcoin Magic Doubler [SegWit beta test] on: December 10, 2016, 04:57:45 PM
Bitcoin magic doubler? it new to my ears to heard this segwit beta test this is impossible i never heard that sending payment in any address that can be double and get your bitcoins back.. i can say that this is just another scam beware.
Many scammers right now are going to try to scam because it is nearly christmas i saw many thread right now are trying to scam and this is one of them..
Beware guys many scammers right now are appearing these days..
2386  Economy / Speculation / Re: All it's going to take is ONE user-friendly, practical App on: December 10, 2016, 04:53:54 PM
It is hard to find a good app to be just like a pokemon go that can be viral fast. if you can be a game developer or app maybe it is a good idea to make an app is a game like mmorpg games that can be play in mobile which is more people right now are using mobile so it can be work just like pokemon go..
Like before that there is flappy coin which is just to play that game and earn bitcoin if you win..
2387  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a loan for $80 worth of btc... will put my fb up as collateral on: December 10, 2016, 04:48:06 PM
we'll you'd be wrong... also... suck my cock.
 <a href="suspicious link removed">Earn free bitcoin</a>

You can get any free money here if you actually want to get  better offer a service which is you can offer in services section. this is not a good place.. if you are just newbie no one can trust you.
Also if you want to make a backlinks  it is not a good format if you are posting in this forum .. better to get a good rank here and keep it in your signature  i am sure it can help you boost your faucet site..
2388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Material for free on: December 10, 2016, 04:42:19 PM
I think the link you are given is shorte links that can gives you money and i think it is against the rules better to share it directly with a link you are given than sharing any affiliate links or any shortener links.. it is not allowed.

Here is what he share http://courses.cms.caltech.edu/cs145/2014/bitbot.pdf
2389  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 09, 2016, 06:44:47 PM
Coinbase has recently reported that they have almost 5 million wallets. Even if we make allowance for the fact there well may be duplicates, it is still a lot more than half a million active Bitcoin users as of today. But Coinbase is not the only pebble on the beach, there are a few other strong web wallets out there. As to me, there would little difference between these web wallets and Bitcoin banks should they really appear, at least, in respect to trust
On seeing these much success of web wallets, why not we just conclude people are still looking for a banking systm even with their bitcoins.

People are seeming too lazy to understand the core concepts of bitcoin ecosystem and they want bitcoin similar to the traditional banking system or similar to other online payment processing system.

If this type of trends persist, bitcoin banks will be inevitable.

They are not lazy overall

It simply doesn't make sense to get into all these gory details about Bitcoin setup. If there were nothing else but Bitcoin and no web wallets hanging around, folks would have to learn the Bitcoin basics lest they should lose money. But since there are already fiat banks and Bitcoin web wallets, why should they give a fuck about personal wallets? Other than that, ordinary people are not tech-savvy on the whole but wise enough to understand that they might not be able to properly set up and secure their personal wallets
Bitcoin cannot definitely work in a banking system, for a fact that if they do accept Bitcoin, they won't have any use to it. One way on how the banks earn money is by loaning your money. Do you think a person that goes to a bank will request for a loan of a heft amount of Bitcoin? I guessed not because they will have a hard time finding people who will accept that kind of currency.
I agree with you those banks are just earnings to give loan with interest.. that is why we have banks and they are living long with this business.. and i think banks here in my country have business partner like money transfer online they are just asking for additional fees for every transaction .. bitcoin is different with this system.. because we can use banks and atm without internet.. also the advantage of banks we can also use it online bankings..
2390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: December 09, 2016, 05:15:52 PM
I would try gamble since i would be rich it wouldnt matter the result at all, i wouldnt risk any big ammount, the pleasure we do get doing gambling is something we cant control, thats why several people those end with problem, to try and join its easy the hard thing is to left gambling.
I think if you are just addicted in gambling i think i can say if you are rich you are just halving fun and i think you are not thinking to lose a lot you are just doing it for past time.. for me i can gamble but i am not targeting to make a large profit just for fun and entertainment because if you are thinking that you targeting a large amount of profit you can be also in risk that you can lose a lot in gambling..
2391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: December 09, 2016, 05:12:54 PM
I think that it can help, but not in a big matter.
I see the option that relatives in who have managed to live in richer countries can send money to people in poorer countries, even if those do not have a bank account.
Of course, the poorer people would have to know how to handle bitcoins, have a computer and internet, and I think that will often not be the case.
So the realistic chances that bitcoin can make a change there are small.

I do not think that it can really help poor countries because of the fact it will not changer their economy.
If they poor countries are knows about bitcoin well for me we do not know if it can be help poor countries..
Because they are not aware about latest or any advance knowledge about crypt currency unless if they can afford to buy a miner and invest every time the miner earned..with a support of government since we are not tested it yet maybe in the future we can see the result if bitcoin can help poor countries.
2392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 100 years from today on: December 09, 2016, 05:00:29 PM
If bitcoin is still around then, the number 2 will be litecoin.

It depends imo. Litecoin will need to keep getting developed. Is Litecoin still getting updates? will they get lighting network and sidechains too? They need to keep working on it if they want to be the real silver of crypto, otherwise it will keep stagnating to 0 just like the rest of alts.
I would like to ask the same thing too on LTC on which they will really need to focus more on their development in able to recognize by people and investors but still its really good that it could able to withstand for longer years as of now on which LTC is still standing and its not actually a totally useless alt. Bitcoin could able still to survive on next 100 years together with new cryptos for sure.
In terms of how long those altcoin live. honestly LTC is oldest altcoin and i think it can be more stay long because many site are accepting litecoin as payment even in some site not only bitcoin is acceptable but they are also accepting litecoin as payment in some stores also dogecoin those are the common altcoin online that actually live long.. that i think it can live more long..
2393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 09, 2016, 04:50:13 PM
For me, according to my own experience the best source of bitcoin nowadays is doing services especially in signature advertisement campaign which is not on the choices so I chose others. I have tried already in HYIP but it is not worth it because the risk is very high; instead of receiving, I lose.

Also add that trading with alt coins is also one of the best thing to earn with bitcoins. And buying and selling of bitcoin is giving me decent amount, if I just earn $10 for a day by simply buying and selling then its already enough for me. The profit that I got from it will be re-invested again for buying another bitcoins or alt coins.

This is actually a good strategy in increasing a bitcoin stash.  We don't need to earn big time in one trade.  Most who aspire to earn such ended in bagholding worthless shitcoins.  Anyway, as I said this is one of the good strategy in trading, but I won't suggest this to newbie unless they have learned the basic knowledge about trading.  I would rather advice them to do tasks with bitcoin or altcoin bounties.  That way there is no way they will lose any bitcoin they have.
Honestly you can not say that you can make $10 daily the movement of price of altcoin and bitcoin are not always aggressive for me trading takes few days or weeks before you can make a profit. if you are minute trader or daily trader it is more risky because almost new altcoin has a fast movement of the price in the market..
2394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: December 08, 2016, 06:39:16 PM
I think the data circulating in many online media is not accurate, because there are many users who have multiple accounts and anonymous identity bitcoin


Yeah obviously, if you count the forum members we could not find accurate number of Bitcoin users because there many multiple accounts users are there. Everyday or some time themos used block the account also. So i will be accurate at all.
It is hard to know the actual number of user like you said we are anonymous and many users are using alt accounts.. it is not a problem since the price is increase it  is a sign that we are more people are using bitcoin and we will see the large pulation in bitcoin in the future
2395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin without Altcoin ? on: December 08, 2016, 06:31:48 PM
Bitcoin without any alternative coins would be also bitcoin, it will not change, and without any alternative coins will just make bitcoin to shine brighter and because all of the attentions would just be on bitcoin since there are no alternative coins. But I think it would be boring if bitcoin would just be the only cryptocurrency in the internet, just my opinion.
In such way we can avoid scam coins and the only one that is in existence is the legitimate coin which is bitcoin. We can move forward faster if there's no competition although bitcoin is more dominant but it will make the supporters of altcoins to transfer their entire fund with bitcoin which will help improve the economy.
Yeah altcoin is actually help a lot with bitcoin because they are promoting altcoin if how many altcoin in coinrmarket i think many developers are trying to promote their own coin that can help other people to know about bitcoin. until they know crypto currency and found bitcoin..
So altcoin is one of the best support for bitcoin..
2396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin impacts? on: December 08, 2016, 06:25:21 PM
For you which could be the most important impact that bitcoin have made, will make or has been making to our society?
The important impact is you can transfer money in a instant and you can pay bill using bitcoin. No need to go in city to pay your electricity just in minute in bitcoin you can do it. And bitcoin can corverted it into cash instant using the cardless atm.
Bitcoin is still not instant.. it is still depends in the transaction.. if you are paying a large amount of fee you can increase the speed of your transaction but not instant just what you think. there is still other payment processor that its so fast that actually instant..
The  good thing in bitcoin i think bitcoin is less hassle to use and we are just paying a small fee unlike in other payment processor..  that is why bitcoin has high impacts.
2397  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the minimum amount to start as a trader? on: December 07, 2016, 05:45:10 PM
As long as you are willing to lose your money because in trading it is hard to trust if you can get your money back.

Yes, this is the most big thing you should know in trading, be ready to lose your money any time you trade because you do not know if we were scammed by people.

Scammed? i think trading is always depends in you how you manage your own ways to make a profit in trading altcoin and bitcoin..
You can be scam if you buy an altcoin without using escrow.. or if you buy a shitcoin that there is value right now and sooner it become dead and no one will buy it because it is scam coin.. many altcoins out there that there is scam coins..
2398  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: December 07, 2016, 05:34:49 PM
I think that you should save your money, cutting your spendings by only buying what you need. I think that's a better way to manage your money.

That is actually the best way of managing money, just to buy the things you need and not spending anything or something you don't really need but save the money if you buy everything and they still remain, that is the best way of managing money.
Same here that you should save the partial amount and never spend it and use some for your money if what ever you want to do about it budgeting too is  one of needed so that you can save more and if you are saving it in bitcoin it is more chance that you can get more profit..
2399  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: December 07, 2016, 05:31:59 PM
As per the current situation it seems that it should be over 750$+. Since past couple of months its being near 700+. Though it went down to 680 but recovered well and on the rise. And if we even have a small good news in a day or two, it should it crossing 780+ or else near 700+ should be for next month as well.
The price above 700 value or 750 value it can be still possible and i think this coming christmass we can see price increase again and reach even 780 usd.. because this is what estimated by some traders out side.. and i hope that the price will increase soon..
2400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 07, 2016, 05:29:13 PM

Going all in at once is probably the worst mistake Ive seen or been a part of. Its never advisable to do so and also read about bankroll management. It is very important when u start gambling.
I think you say right... One of the worst mistake in gambling is "all in". You put all your efforts (and money) in only one bet.
This could sounds good or an hero move, but normally lead to lose all funds.

Another big mistake is betting in a sport/game that you don't know, but you follow just the odds.
I have see many newbies loss money with "easy" match, or with low ROI in dice.

Honestly all in is not a good idea in terms in gambling it is too risky and already tried it before never experience to win a large amount.
If you are just halving fun it is better to use small amount and i think it is more people are making a profit or win with small bets than high bettors..
I think sports betting is more easy to gamble than the other game that you can easily analyze the game before you can bet..
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