... Actually it does. Look. 0.509 BTC sent on 2014-01-12 21:26:38 in the same transaction that moved the other 107.5.

Regarding refunds - I am still owed 0.15 BTC -- sent 0.4 BTC on 2014-01-03 16:41:18, recieved a refund of 0.25 BTC at 2014-01-12 03:11:52

https://blockchain.info/address/18yEXdRZRksTVVfiFe7fTQ5ixXqLSTNKrn
Address: 18yEXdRZRksTVVfiFe7fTQ5ixXqLSTNKrn

Thank you for clearing this all up.

Wow.. Finally updated from the ORIGINAL wallet.. Goodbye spacekitteh, hello moneykitteh.

So:
1. user wangzhuanzu asked you to sent 0.5 to 1AQseUF2CtEs6ZALHS5cJtTVBpntaBmsGs
2. you posted this transaction in response:https://blockchain.info/tx/2960012783896c01bbfc65fffdd4d6d311852bcce85f37e33416197cba9ee3cb
3. On this transaction we see address 1HezbN4YyUcSh6h2FYmNbZGjAFEggnhJkc, with 108 BTC, sending 0.5 BTC to 1AQseUF2CtEs6ZALHS5cJtTVBpntaBmsGs and the other 107.5 to 1C7ShYgQkuYgauyS8r4U7AzyBEjMAMfurP

Where did that 0.5 BTC come from? It certainly didn't come from the stolen funds.. And what is the story behind the other 107.5?

Okay, I will admit that I could have misinterpreted the blockchain. Most of the transactions I noted involve sending BTC to 2-3 addresses, one of those getting the vast majority of the funds. The rest could be fees (for, say DGEX), though even with this premise I would expect to see the fee % as consistent, which it is not.. The Blockchain is a difficult thing to read and there is the possibility that I misread it in relation to these transactions. That said, the way this money is moving looks like a wash / tumbler - much like what happened with the stolen funds from the Sheep Market.. Not saying this is the same guy, but it is a common way to try to clean your stolen funds.

Let us also consider that Block_Erupter has constantly lied about pretty much everything so far as we can tell, and he has been called out on many of those lies only to try to cover them with new ones (i.e. the Chinese devs stole the money - I am paying out of pocket).

Questions that remain:
1. Why are people only getting partial refunds, and why are the % so variable?
2. Doesn't he have any BTC from being the lead dev behind Frozen? He claimed to have funds from that, meaning even if everything else he said was true, he should be able to pay full refunds
3. How does he explain the transfer he made from https://blockchain.info/address/1HezbN4YyUcSh6h2FYmNbZGjAFEggnhJkc -- a wallet that had 108 BTC at the time???

Even this line of questions presupposes that there is some truth in what he says, which I can pretty much guarantee is not the case  based on what we have found on him.. There are lots of other lines of inquiry that have been posted here, like his bragging about not being poor by posting a screenshot of his BTC-E account which had well over $100,000 worth of BTC and USD in it..


I believe today is the deadline for full refunds. Tomorrow several people will post everything they have uncovered on him - which is a fair bit.

I've added a lot more history from the blockchain to this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395893.msg4469245#msg4469245

He has at least a few hundred thousand USD worth of BTC that he's trying to launder / clean. Also involved in NXT.

Yeah.. looking through the block chain, I feel this guy has been involved in a lot of laundering.. as I follow the trail, I see hundreds of thousands of dollars in some of the accounts that have moved money through his known addresses over the past few days...

https://blockchain.info/address/13izUnFG7RTwpmumiL2CqAhrJqYKHnBBEu -- the address that got about 40 of the stolen BTC and was used for refunds.. Before any talk of refunds, this wallet sent 4 BTC to:
https://blockchain.info/address/1AWcY1Am2hT8jzFWqWy7eRs1XxEJqqfdtT
Which then went to: https://blockchain.info/address/1B9HbcJsJvQP3AcCMBYkNgTnEJNDvy6NnZ
Note: Lots of other accounts sent to this one in a single transaction.. This is worth investigating, as initial research indicates that a long chain of transactions are working to conceal thousands of BTC. We may be able to tie him to larger scams through this..
Then all was sent to: https://blockchain.info/address/1MSLBgY9Si2SFBHnuj2g1NAEnkHHBwxUYA
which primarily went to: https://blockchain.info/address/1McKuuur4ngF3Q89SsaSsEoMNvCVfeBa8K
... Then https://blockchain.info/address/16SpTaW8kYW8NW9RmHZLJyB3TPAzwtzj6U    
... Then https://blockchain.info/address/1NZueDaFyozy3JrH2ZTNhscCQdYdECoupq
... Then https://blockchain.info/address/1Nw2sxCAC6ZKay7irSoVtogfk7k27CXd3u
... then https://blockchain.info/address/17Kfb54KCAN7f6iSTVE8dEH7NPrx4ktLWf
... Then https://blockchain.info/address/14jpbGf3Guxztp1sJDpZtY98WMUpBv58RP
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1G67rAovm2GUfw3dDdkziFW2nZTcVT2YhU
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1D4dDhbRcfyeQq6Qt7gdo7GwzFTyBFx3Nr
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1JUUeZnajHtxfi6sjLGVTrkfGPEaQFcB7G
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1N1xV9swCBYnZZAGHGJebWgzf81HWeJt1a
... then https://blockchain.info/address/18x6Hfc94GVz3zsMRdKUj6ECK6AS9pEkHT
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1NWzVSjGFhiz8N2iY4VCfsMetonKpnk4Vt
.. then https://blockchain.info/address/1HntkccSbpfUthFMBkiEd96NuYAoUdhM95
.. then https://blockchain.info/address/16tCLQWbc6rRnunezduodfhgFvhAZdCBMr
.. then https://blockchain.info/address/13PsB2yUwQCNR6suEFzmRTkongn3fgDDjd
.. then https://blockchain.info/address/1EyRfFwjijDGWL7XHLGcSdVHS5NdZgL6WE
.. then https://blockchain.info/address/14aaFvxtgkethwbK5g7jtb1xqFQz4fT4M7
... then https://blockchain.info/address/12jJnveKiXNXvW795Pmxa9WTkcrP4zg24n
This is where it sits now.. he keeps shaving off bits of it, as it typical for BTC laundering. These shavings might be worth investigating further.

Another line of inquiry: the address he's sending refunds from (https://blockchain.info/address/13izUnFG7RTwpmumiL2CqAhrJqYKHnBBEu) also received an odd 4 BTC from:
https://blockchain.info/address/1GRMipxgTzH19fVqRkSN7W6tx781XPLX7s
In the same transaction this address also sent 31 BTC to:
https://blockchain.info/address/1EGEBgB4HHCYhceRpzsR9BsPEo2jRuD7i
... Then https://blockchain.info/address/14fx5qf1Tj933M3EHaMcV8iGwysbqZYhqX
... then https://blockchain.info/address/13FEHHvdEniRHQJhJG5ENmYKxEvcvMqxhm
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1Bf3ZhZ15fPuHTQZNSMtFSy2wZjTr5rrEZ
... then https://blockchain.info/address/1Lx9LBQqvPrn7Wo3nCsu5bLY8SzanmjJSy

Here he split the funds and send half of them on this route:
https://blockchain.info/address/1AGW2qz4qJ1XQ2DkrsGH557hZQEoqQgbJg
https://blockchain.info/address/14AM8fZAnCahKRkeaxLwGc9U2SJmDM9U9D
https://blockchain.info/address/17s3yzeEVjEpLM5RR6xb4RaE36VKcotyv6
https://blockchain.info/address/1EjJtEzwKwZwqziT3BdLbVYEgCoj1Cc47C
- This wallet is particularly interesting.. looks like a lot of BTC pass through it before going to https://blockchain.info/address/1Facb8QnikfPUoo8WVFnyai3e1Hcov9y8T
This one is more interesting. Suspected money laundering service - it's had over 100 Million USD worth of BTC pass through it.
The other half of the funds go here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1PehpTQvD8f5uXDYJqeFULAyFwXbkT41wr
then here: https://blockchain.info/address/14jHyRDjrhAYkEw6sECkpbwCCyVjGZoFn8
then here: https://blockchain.info/address/19xjfwWpCCuUTC1Gq6auZiDF4B7UcrwQXM
before again going into the suspected laundering service here: https://blockchain.info/address/1Facb8QnikfPUoo8WVFnyai3e1Hcov9y8T

So at the end of the day, everything ends up here: 1Facb8QnikfPUoo8WVFnyai3e1Hcov9y8T


Going back a few steps.. https://blockchain.info/address/13izUnFG7RTwpmumiL2CqAhrJqYKHnBBEu received those 4 BTC from:
https://blockchain.info/address/1GRMipxgTzH19fVqRkSN7W6tx781XPLX7s - where did this ~4btc sender get his money? Well, a few transactions back he took ~64 BTC out of DGEX...
Over the course of some time, DGEX:https://blockchain.info/address/1LNKq42Hx6nsWCyBsxKCDqdF3btBbufnQT
sent around 3000 BTC here: https://blockchain.info/address/1JpQQcJwNSo4QueHZ3dwcXfbaDCAimYKg7  which I am guessing is another DGEX wallet… On Jan 9th This address sent 64 BTC to our scammer at https://blockchain.info/address/1BhQufqMWAdNNZLeRypUPeb6YmrhYDGLh4
which sent to https://blockchain.info/address/1MkaNSYKWJ71oJniwictmMUUBZSnktGb4B
which sent to https://blockchain.info/address/1GRMipxgTzH19fVqRkSN7W6tx781XPLX7s
which sent the majority of the balance to another address, but also sent 4BTC to
https://blockchain.info/address/13izUnFG7RTwpmumiL2CqAhrJqYKHnBBEu
which happens to be where most of the Shares scam money ended up, thus we see that all this activity is part of his laundering.  Notable that all this happened pretty darn fast.

So it's worth asking - was there a NXT scam / heist worth about 64 BTC recently? If not, he may have just been laundering through DGEX.. Hard to say. Other possibility is that he got in early or was in the genesis block.

Now then.. it gets juicier! He was asked to help out with Frozen and I think he feels guilty about the mess he has made with that..


But wait a moment! Where did those funds come from??? They came from:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HezbN4YyUcSh6h2FYmNbZGjAFEggnhJkc
which had 108 BTC until recently. So.. Where did it come from? It all starts at https://blockchain.info/address/1Facb8QnikfPUoo8WVFnyai3e1Hcov9y8T -- that suspected laundering service.
https://blockchain.info/address/1Facb8QnikfPUoo8WVFnyai3e1Hcov9y8T
to https://blockchain.info/address/18j5D343qpcthmknKJDzJoE8R2yZn5xSbW
to https://blockchain.info/address/1N6LQPShbSYa1T1XurAm5fasPWnY5KsP4g
to https://blockchain.info/address/1P55oKQVYy9CNyU1Bc3z8cD5dTmcafVeZL
to https://blockchain.info/address/1558DTt1PKDx2mCobbSu6JXbYWsVUR6ssK
to https://blockchain.info/address/1DRzaUT2LsPG3Eoy4ZPVrHYgVmhvEXHgy9
to https://blockchain.info/address/1ErJjTTd5NFasgow5kzE3uqYnFSbybicEM
to https://blockchain.info/address/1DRNg4xeLKzD5jSkDQExX62UoPUxPXzSiD
to https://blockchain.info/address/1PqpH1bG5qnJLWTTQkiDHeGkKhLhb1ZDHq
to https://blockchain.info/address/13qtUgaFjCHUGuPSkUj7pTfGrDRJVaYEaq
to https://blockchain.info/address/12FuyijsERr7WJ8bmT8JkYF7GDjxgoVxca
to https://blockchain.info/address/1PGsNJxiH4tuy9wMsSasa6VnQg5gwRYBpE
to https://blockchain.info/address/1NZYbNzajTgenFkudLWXsQYjb1npQtfSUS
to https://blockchain.info/address/1DMV6jwV1fbGJVY9J6ExjVZCTM4MYoEf5L
to https://blockchain.info/address/1CyKSYtuFAPfTAHRE7o6vUnqMycyAnH6WR
to https://blockchain.info/address/1HMh7JUG7d2HqndQQbr3WUeLLitKhYtc8G
to https://blockchain.info/address/1HJovy2giHDTDBekhFQD9HYfFG6gTCsZJp
to https://blockchain.info/address/1H2nxMnrhcVLqtEGk5CmiqEtWXriFkd8UF
to https://blockchain.info/address/1EbYSSbXAAF4zeWb7Ca6k9MRAaV1tdWpzx
to https://blockchain.info/address/1G9W2NDbUpwKEwPvBvynxbRSuck2ZVyFqn
to https://blockchain.info/address/19KSJH6RHMEogSiZwpeFFkcLMffYwxMtgT
to https://blockchain.info/address/1Hd9cgX6twjUu7HuLKo1sPf7e6wkoMEt4A
to https://blockchain.info/address/1C4W4oJciH6gezm8LmfZVHbNbTCiQT8se9
to https://blockchain.info/address/1HezbN4YyUcSh6h2FYmNbZGjAFEggnhJkc
where he sends that 0.5 BTC to his old FZ friend.

Then it continues:
https://blockchain.info/address/1C7ShYgQkuYgauyS8r4U7AzyBEjMAMfurP
https://blockchain.info/address/1K821sNyk9eQS5THfVw12QQGxSNQASZpVY
https://blockchain.info/address/1BPu3nwpunuTFXTeFzXN2cyUt2Nwwmanuk
https://blockchain.info/address/1Mequey8AQEjcqsagaTxKHFF4WymqBDJ3Q
https://blockchain.info/address/1NVReZqPZDLNzJoGpxwr4jCbsEvt1jMCTN
https://blockchain.info/address/1J6suPKEgFYnAC458LtMymbAGmHAWLM3xc
https://blockchain.info/address/1Hcs9suVtuZp3D3EZyAynVe9LbKqxQrwdW

which is where it remains as I post this.

If you are inclined to believe him, read through the latest info on the shares thread..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395893.420

His own pocket happens to include 40 of the stolen btc.. Caught red handed.

Joker, you're not the only one who has been looking into him. Monday sounds like a good deadline for complete refunds, then we post everything we have..

I am quite confident that we have enough info to launch a fraud suit against him, and considering that the scope is international it gets a lot more attention from a federal perspective.

We can also reach out to his former victims to further increase the scope of the investigation and fraud suit..

Give him, say, 24 hours?

Hell, I'm almost inclined to ask for interest.. He clearly has the funds to pay us back double.. Or he could pay his own bounty. We have spent many many hours on this..

Can I just point out that this is obvious BS?

He gets investors to send money here:
https://blockchain.info/address/16hZ1NdkvwLsPFADFcmoZwWgnXpgLHGZAK

Then he plays some dice.. Then he sends most of the funds to another address in this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/35d6a6e19fb5bf538a90c4e92626185b590a4dff92be60cbc00096ad4f00feff

Now most of the BTC are here: https://blockchain.info/address/13izUnFG7RTwpmumiL2CqAhrJqYKHnBBEu

THEN he starts sending refunds 'out of his own pocket', which happens to be 13izUnFG7RTwpmumiL2CqAhrJqYKHnBBEu  -- aka the address that got ~40 of the stolen BTC...


Just to hilight this -- money goes in:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ea04e13ce8daf3103df23f2807f7a8f3d6e7638c2793d69a9d6bc7507f98191e

Money is transferred to another wallet:
https://blockchain.info/tx/35d6a6e19fb5bf538a90c4e92626185b590a4dff92be60cbc00096ad4f00feff

Money gets refunded from second wallet:
https://blockchain.info/tx/8e23d3f5c8d5133823f285da5213bdd1b3db2622038db6c2fad4161745da9c92

The blockchain doesn't lie people, though Block_Erupter does, and he does it very poorly.

I just got around 60% of my BTC returned..

So this is where we are:
- If Block_Erupter is a scammer, he is scared. He has good reason to be scared, and I will leave it at that.
- If Block_Erupter does not own the wallet that all our funds were sent to, despite his slew of lies, he is doing an incredibly respectable thing by paying people back out of his own pocket.

So - is he a scared scammer, or a solid guy who got caught up in this IPO as much as anyone else?

He certainly has not made much effort to defend himself in any meaningful way, and the evidence and defense presented has been limited at best.. If he really is the solid member of this community who pays investors of a flop out of pocket, he should stand up for himself and explain in depth what is going on in great detail.

Based on what I have seen, he is a scammer and this is not his first rodeo.. But I could be wrong, and I would love to be proven so.

He is refunding 90% because he sent 4BTC to another address, probably one he does not own.. look in the blockchain.

Pm sent, have not received a refund to date.

There is still a whole lot unexplained here.. If you were not a scammer I would like to see a lot of questions answered. You haven't done much to back up your claim.

I know you have scammed before and I know you have more than enough btc to pay everyone back with interest.

When is the IPO!!!???

Keep in mind that he is carefully watching this thread to check for progress in tracking him down.. Posting relevant information here gives him a heads-up.

THIS was a great find.. I noticed that the username on the account was Virus.. Well - take a peek:
http://dcaz.net/user/Virus

That's where chatlogs for tons of BTC-e history are stored.. Coincidence that the user Virus only posts twice and both are direct links to Block_Eruptor's posts, one specifically on Frozen? I think not. Virus = Block_Eruptor and Virus has more than enough to pay all these investors off with interest.

Looks like someone may have his IP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366762.msg4393856#msg4393856

Sure hope he repays everyone (for his own sake as well as that of all the investors)!

I noticed indiacoin@outlook.com on the whois lookups but hadn't had a chance to really investigate it.. Initial search results didn't give me much to work with..

That said, I see that Lecture's last posts were on Frozen and he claims to have co-developed frozen: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116085;sa=showPosts

Looking at block_erupters activity on this forum, he stops posting for several hours starting before 11am GMT, presumably this is when he sleeps. In Ohio time this would be 6am. Someone mentioned turkey, which would be 1pm. In California time this would be 3am. That's late, but not an unreasonable bed time on occasion (if you don't have kids).

Checking out some of the domains hr has registered I notice fake California addresses and phone numbers.. Could be coincidence or lack of creativity.

I see a lot of sketch recently,  but historically he's spent a lot of time on the forum.. Sad to see things pan out as they have.. He did commit to paying people back if things didn't pan out. I've provided negative trust until that happens and suggest everyone else who sent btc do the same to prevent him from getting more btc out of people until this is resolved.


I don't think his original intent on the forun was to scam people, meaning he probably left enough clues lying around the intetwebs to track him down..

He's trying again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404372

Worth noting that he's re-posted this because it's being called a scam in his other thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395893.0

Lost of inconsistencies in the story so far.. =/