So let me get this straight.
Darkcoin's developer:
* Invented X11, which is used by countless coins now.
* Invented DWG, difficulty re-targeting which is used by countless coins now
* Re-built CoinJoin so it works
* Had his code audited by Kristov Atlas and has passed the review, so now the anon layer is being open sourced on Monday.
* Created an anoncoin coin which has a higher market cap than all the other anon coins
Yet, Darkcoin doesn't make the list?
I'll just inform the Darkcoin developer that there is no proof of his existence and Darkcoin must have just magically appeared from eBay or somewhere.
WTF Meanwhile, even coins created "yesterday" are on that poll  . Fear not, Darkcoin will soon reach more people outside this forum. |
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Is there an official symbol for a masternode?
I saw some attempts, but nothing was official. Are you up to the task? I still like my attempt I'm at work so I can't re-post right now I believe it was this one. I really like the concept but I think it needs some refining Let me refine it   |
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@camosoul My point is that you two have a tendency to repeat, repeat and repeat again till everyone acknowledges your point of view. And you make a big deal of some things which are sometimes trivial (IMO), fueling the trolls and giving them some nice ideas. Yeah I know you don't think it's trivial, I get your point.
It's got nothing to do with my point of view. Yes, it fuels the trolls. But less so than the issue at hand, being ignored. That's the point. Parody. Satire. Analogy. Denial doesn't make it go away. Yet again you attack while ignoring the obvious... The real issue is; I will not drink the kool aide, and you can't make me. Be mad about it. Not my problem. I will not drink the kool aide. I'm not mad, you are free to do whatever you like. I give my opinion on this matter like you give yours. |
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@camosoul My point is that you two have a tendency to repeat, repeat and repeat again till everyone acknowledges your point of view. And you make a big deal of some things which are sometimes trivial (IMO), fueling the trolls and giving them some nice ideas. Yeah I know you don't think it's trivial, I get your point.
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But it can't be anonymous and requires trust. |
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The name change thing again? How many times are we going to continue beating the already dead horse?
You and camosoul are the only ones making a big deal about an association with the name. However, trolls, whatever the name used for the technology, would still have made that dishonest association with CoinJoin. The public outside bitcointalk won't make that kind of error. Why ? They don't know CoinJoin. |
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Not again with the name ...
As long as we get the word out that the para-centralized MasterWank network transport paradigm has failed and took the 20% tax it was paying to the NSA out of everyone's wallets when it happened... I really think the McDuff Foundation should step in and do something about this while there's still a chance to save DRK. If only we had pre-mined some more, maybe we could give that extra coin supply to everyone who lost their DRKs in the failed forks... [/sarcasm] You can manufacture an uphill battle to fight, or you can pull your head out of your ass and not generate the problem in the first place... I don't understand your concern. Can you explain it clearly ? |
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Not again with the name ...
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Waht would happen to the consensus if someone took like a lot of money, and bougt online like 3000 mn that he/she/them controll ?
would this not be same sitation like the 51% attack on network hash ?
 Source: https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/InstantTX.pdf |
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 Looking cool, with the updates! Hmm too many repetition of "mixing" IMO. Darksend is a coin-mixing service which was originally based on CoinJoin but has now been replaced by evolved to an original anonymization process using pre-mixing and built around masternodes which was originally termed Darksend+ created by Darkcoin developer Evan Duffield. |
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Guys, you need to carefully reread Evan's chat log where he first mentioned the instant transaction system. I'm almost certain it doesn't involve masternodes, for several reasons:
1) He says that it won't require Bitcoin to hard fork. How could you implement MNs into the protocol, plus instant transactions, without a hard fork?
2) He clearly says that he has found a way to make Bitcoin transactions instant...he then mentions that it is fully compatible with DarkSend and so will work with Darkcoin. But it's clear from his wording that the system is designed and intended for Bitcoin, first and foremost.
This makes me sad. I agree, to an extent. But consider this: the world knows what Bitcoin is. Consider a news article on every major techy website in the world, even CNN Money, Forbes, etc. "Darkcoin Developer Solves Bitcoin's Biggest Problem; Revolutionizes the Currency" or whatever. Imagine how much attention Darkcoin would get from solving Bitcoin's problems. It could conceivably be the first step to supplanting BTC, even. Why go use the coin that Evan fixed, rather use the coin that Evan created? Is this the chat log you are referring to? 9/14 8:51 pm <evan82> I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions. I know how to do it... 9/14 8:52 pm <evan82> It'll be compatible with Darksend too. So we'll have anonymous instant transactions. 9/14 8:52 pm <evan82> Oh and there will be no bloat, that is the problem with POS. I bet we can get a confirmation within 10-20 seconds in most cases. 9/14 8:52 pm <evan82> It also fixes the finney attack, which is another huge problem for bitcoin 9/14 8:56 pm <eth2> =) thats some good news 9/14 8:56 pm <eth2> lemme know when you need testers 9/14 8:57 pm <evan82> Yeah, I'm obviously pretty excited about it. I just had a eureka moment 9/14 8:58 pm <evan82> It's simple, elegant, instant and will cost a ton of money to subvert. Perfect Cheesy 9/14 8:59 pm <eth2> does that have any technical implication on how transactions are processed and blocks? 9/14 8:59 pm <eth2> from a pool standpoint 9/14 8:59 pm <evan82> nope. 9/14 8:59 pm <evan82> It's not even a hard fork [...] 9/14 9:25 pm <moli> interesting.. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4942/what-is-a-finney-attack9/14 9:27 pm <evan82> It could possibly stop a finney attack. It's funny you post that, it's what I'm thinking about righ now 9/14 9:27 pm <evan82> right* 9/14 9:28 pm <evan82> It can definitely stop all other double spends, but finney attacks require the client to reject blocks. I see nothing in there about instant transactions with Bitcoin... just that this will solve one of Bitcoin's problems (with Darkcoin), is compatible with Darksend, and we (Darkcoin) will have anonymous instant transactions without a hardfork. There is a press release (not issued yet) that makes it clear that the near instant transaction solution is equally applicable to BTC as DRK and Darksend. I'm the one who wrote the draft of that potential press release =) Crouton: he says "I just solved one of the largest problems facing Bitcoin. Instant transactions." Then, next line, "It will be compatible with DarkSend too." Implies that he is thinking first-and-foremost about the fact that this will be huge for Bitcoin. Not that it matters--it'll be huge for the entire crypto community. It doesn't imply necessarily that. A new process (using masternodes) can solve a problem that an older process was facing. PS : If you are writing a draft, I think that it would be better to ask him directly. |
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Guys, you need to carefully reread Evan's chat log where he first mentioned the instant transaction system. I'm almost certain it doesn't involve masternodes, for several reasons:
1) He says that it won't require Bitcoin to hard fork. How could you implement MNs into the protocol, plus instant transactions, without a hard fork?
2) He clearly says that he has found a way to make Bitcoin transactions instant...he then mentions that it is fully compatible with DarkSend and so will work with Darkcoin. But it's clear from his wording that the system is designed and intended for Bitcoin, first and foremost.
This makes me sad. I agree, to an extent. But consider this: the world knows what Bitcoin is. Consider a news article on every major techy website in the world, even CNN Money, Forbes, etc. "Darkcoin Developer Solves Bitcoin's Biggest Problem; Revolutionizes the Currency" or whatever. Imagine how much attention Darkcoin would get from solving Bitcoin's problems. It could conceivably be the first step to supplanting BTC, even. Why go use the coin that Evan fixed, rather use the coin that Evan created? He was talking about Darkcoin for the hardfork not Bitcoin ... |
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Somebody on twitter was spreading misinformation about RC5 implementing instant transactions. I tweeted the truth about that and indicated RC6 was the one for instant transactions.
Feel free to tweet as well with the truth!
#getintothedark #darkcoin #drk
Tao
A link to the official announcement should suffice  : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-launching-september-22nd.2382/ |
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https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc5-launching-september-22nd.2382/RC5 - Spork Ahead!
Development has been moving along consistently and we’re almost ready to launch. We’re going to be launching RC5 on the 22nd (Next Monday).
Instant Transactions
We’re working on a paper describing the instant transaction system, expect that on Friday. We’ll also have more announcements and very detailed development update coming later this week.
What's included and what's the plan?
RC5 has a basic version of enforcement built into it that when activated will guarantee masternode payments are present in a block. So far, testing has proven the code is working and we're in the process of working out some of the final issues with it. The code is very simple and when activated the network will simply reject blocks from pools that have not updated.
Open Source
Darksend will be open sourced one week after RC5 has been released, September 29th. This will allow updates if needed before the code is released.
What's Next?
Darksend is working really nicely with no pressing issues presently. I would like to take some time and implement the Instant Transaction system immediately following release or RC5.
-Evan "Announcement" coins announce, Darkcoin delivers...
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Trying to surf on the Darkcoin wave*
*Edited |
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