Did you paint your eyes on this morning? Moderator will escrow it.

Coinpal Ryan told me to ask Coinpal to have them email ryan@coinpal.net about the ryan over at Ryan09@coinpal.ryan about refunding your ryan coins. I'll let you know in a Ryan  

Okay gentleman, I am a dick I am aware of that. I'm angry that people think I'm a scammer. As for marketing do you have a portfolio that shows you on average get your clients a 214% profit increase in 3 month periods? I do, I'm proud of it.  I'm the majority shareholder, just like any of you invested you want your money protected, yes? Well, I'm doing my fucking best here to keep you all updated with what is happening with your money and i'm being abused for it. If it's a disaster when it launches, fine. I'll just dump all my shares and it'll crash and that'll give you something else to cry about.

If you want a real exchange that is not what you do thats where you attract people just looking to join a twitter group and pump and dump. We want to launch a knowledge centre, along with newbie courses and actually teach people how to trade, how to analyse, have expert traders give out tips. This is what the 30BTC goes to, incentives to get the big players and not the people playing with pennies. Traders are happy where they are now, how do we get them to us? Incentives.

Put offers down that seem endlessly easy for them to produce referrals and the largest profits and then we let the features and the sites development as a whole keep them there trading. You don't hit up all the forums, great place to start and had I been part of the team from the beginning, it wouldn't of went this way, it's down to that stupid logo that's up now. If they hadn't put that up, they wouldn't have fucked everyones trust day one. I can guarantee that.


I know 20k isn't a lot of money. That's why I invested it, because there is a 50/50 chance that it's genuine and if it is then that 20k is pennies to what it can produce. If it's a failure, 20k was worth the risk for me. I'll try get the money back, we know who the owner is, his address is online. It's not particularly difficult to find someone who isn't trying to hide. Like I have said a million times, we will know on Wednesday. If I don't get what I asked for us all i.e team member identification, a working demo and the money so I can start getting the offers out to people to join and win the incentives. If you are a trader with a 500 people following everyday, and you see an offer for 5 BTC for the most referrals and each trader you introduce must trade 0.5btc within the time limit. You are going to pick a coin looking profitable, tell your following about it and tell them a 0.5 minimum, then when you say jump they'll say how high. Easy money. Now we could have 10 big traders doing that easily daily for 2 weeks, now all these people use our bots and enjoy the site. Free upgrades in memberships for those deposited and traded certain amounts. Or who win mini competitions.

That's now a bunch of customers for good.


Newbies, well I don't need to explain that. Courses and walkthroughs. Make them money and they will stay.


Down and out news sites? No thanks. You hit up the big ones, you hit them with things they can't say no too. I already have 3 lined up which will probably get us about 5000 sign ups by day 3, from that an easy 1000 will stick around with a good 300 pumping decent volumes in day in and out. Total cost is 12BTC + I have to do some free marketing for them.

Flogged marketing advice? Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I am a dick, I maybe should be more professional but why? I'm human, I'm a marketer. I'm here to put an idea on the table for you that dont want to say no to and I'm good at it. Thats why you probably deal with people who only answer 'yes, sir' - 'no, sir' who the fuck wants that?   I want to speak to a real person who isn't worried about what you have to say about THEM because I am not a exchange. I'm here to get you on it and using it.


Say what you want, but it's pure speculation until April 18th. Before that actually. I will know early hours of Thursday morning.

If they don't provide, I'll ask for my money back. If I don't get it, I will tell you all. I am here to make money and raise crypto awareness, not scam anyone. The potential in this is way more than any scam can make. Even if it was a scam and they/he ran with our cash - he'd be an idiot. He's put the idea out their and I'd probably go ahead and pay to have a site developed myself.

Obviously not under the same name, Coinpal was stupid to use from the start. There used to be that paypal to btc site under the .com version. However, the ideas out and if he threw that idea away for a little change then at least I can say the 20k I paid was for the idea, as I have seen enough to know exactly how this works as a whole. If FinCen grant the right for us to trade $, which they may as the meeting went well, then the profits that the scam would have made could be weekly profits easily for us.


If/When I get replies, I will get you updates. I will let you know everything I know as soon as I know.

He doesn't seem to understand what I am saying... I say one thing, he disagrees. I say another, he finds another disagreement that contradicts his last. it's boring me now.


Badpeanut - how many shares do you own? I'll make you an offer for them if you will stop posting in this thread. I say I think Coinpal are scamming, you call me a hacker. I say they hacked me, now I am a scammer. I say legitimately in my opinion Coinpal are legit, as in your money is not being stolen but I have a theory which the person who started coinpal needs more time - which is fine in my eyes, they should just be honest about it if they do instead of telling me stories which I can clearly find many flaws in strangely enough - you claim we are now a group of scammers.

Nothing will be good enough for you. PM me if you want, we will have a moderator escrow the deal.

How do you know it wont go up by 20x? You don't. Just like he doesn't. That was one of the most hypocritical posts I've seen on this forum.

Even what you are doing is pure speculation and gambling, just like him. You have NO idea what will happen. None of us do.


Bitcoin has proven already its not just a fad, we are sure of that. When the IRS tax it officially. It's no longer a fad. It is there just like gold and silver now.

You might think it's going down, but you are just as wrong as you are right - you don't know either.


This for the time being is speculation. Everything in Bitcoin is. We can be sure of nothing. Although I can see a 10K coin in 2015.

I personally think $3500 per coin the end of July. With two more crashes after that before it peaks out for good or is made official.

Sarcasm? 


I kept getting passwords changed on my accounts cause the hack, then I forget to write one down and can't remember it. I'll be sticking with this one though.

I never needed to email. Since I had my hostgator account back I tried re-opening my email account I used for CS (the hacker deleted it to delete trails of evidence) and then I tried logging in to CS. The password was changed so it never worked so I just went to 'forgot password' and they sent an email to the account that the hacker deleted but I opened again and it worked. They let me change the password. I made sure there was no signs of secondary emails and then I used my yubikey on my account so such a thing cant happen again. Now that the hacker cant get in to any of my personal emails, he has no access to my domain related ones either.

I said in my opinion. I have mine, you have yours. No, Ryan is apparently in hospital.


You are either a troll or outright enemy. First I'm the hacker, then they are, now us all. God sake make your mind up.


We are legit for now, you just received  a dividend which is all that you are promised as an investor for the time being. Investors take risks, you got what we promised you.  Like I said, I am giving them till Wednesday and if we don't have a demo for you all, proof of all the partners, my marketing budget and a reason why they have been so absent, if none of that is provided I will be pulling my investment out. Which is a very large amount of the whole I.P.O along with them no longer having a marketer who works for free.


Find someone else to annoy, improve your english skills and who knows maybe one day you might actually read and understand what I am posting so I don't need to repeat myself 80 times.

As did I. Which means a member or partner is online and is yet to chime in or get back to me. Seriously, do they expect this to work with no marketing? I really do need the 30BTC marketing revenue I should have received when I was first asked to market it, probably tomorrow if they want the kind of traffic on launch day they expect. They really don't seem to care... They haven't even got the PSD file of the logo off of me yet.


We do need to be more honest with the investors. I would tell you all.. If I knew.



For the guy wanting the longer list of the legend. Just about to do that.

No sir, they are still fine. It seemed like a bit of a mix up that lead me to believe that Coinpal had done something, when it wasn't actually.


Coinpal are for now, still legit. I'm a no bullshit guy, the minute they think they can scam or I suspect one I will call it even though I'm a partner. I am the only partner to publicly post his identity and address, the rest better get their act together.

Okay, I'm back in to CS!!


Shares are still there, the hacker must have realised he couldn't transfer anything out and just deleted it and tried to stop me accessing so he could re-use it in the future if he got in my hostgator account which he now can't as that's him fully blocked out of everything he could have access too. Regardless you will see in the other thread the guy was doing this on a mass scale when you follow the block chain. Unbelievable, hopefully it can be solved.

I'll now go back to my stance of saying Coinpal didn't do this. We are legit, only problem is lack of responsiveness. I want proof Mr Ryan Gay was/is in the hospital and I want a skype call and I want the truth or I am pulling my investment. Then I want proof of all other 3 partners, photos, addresses, accounts on here while introducing themselves.


I think Mr Gay is working on this by himself. Well, the actual site development etc. The textual analysis on the partner that emailed me and him are to similar to pass as coincidence. They use the same phrases, calling me a 'wicked smart marketing guru!!'


They also spell 2 words wrong multiple times, not common misspelled words either. For 2 people to do that 8/9 times between 2 emails I looked at is very, very unlikely. So, like I said - from a textual analysis point of view this was written by the same man.


I think he is legit, but in over his head if thats the case. If I dont see the proof I asked Chris for via email when he replies, I will be asking for his full name, address, facebook profile and for him to immediately introduce himself on here or for my investment to be pulled. I'll let them keep all the logos I had registered to me as a gesture and if they give me the funds to do it I'll do the marketing for the launch but more than likely after that I'll be done as I wont do business with someone who does such a thing as to make up fake people to cut my % of profits down and lie to investors for credibility.


If any coinpal partner (if you exist) introduce yourself bow for christ sake, we are meant to launch in 5 days. I have given all my personal info out. Why can't you? You are asking for people to give you their cold hard cash stop worrying about being trolled by people. You want a million dollar business? Act like it. If it's just you on your own Ryan, tell me the truth now and I am fine with it.



Tell me what stage you are actually at, maybe we will have to extend launch date. That's fine, we will compensate investors if so.


Be truthful. Honesty and integrity will get you further than anything else in business. So far, I am the only one actively being the face of Coinpal. Look at the amount of shit I just took for it!? Scammer, hacker, all sorts but I don't give a fuck now. We need to get things straight or I am out. We need to relaunch our I.P.O invite for the last 40'000 shares of round 1 on Wednesday. Have a demo ready by then, or I want my investment back in full. Get me my revenue for pre-launch and during marketing A.S.A.P (30BTC it should be roughly) Wednesday being the latest day or I'm out.


Or, tell me and the rest of the people who have invested in your idea the truth about what stage you are actually at and the truth about Coinpal and everything else as I have seen evidence but at this point that evidence could have easily just been to fool me.


I trusted you with my money, time for it to be given back to me if I (a partner!) am being kept out the loop or lied too. Or for you to show some real integrity and admit you may have been bluffing.


Proof of part of my shares:

Will do. Also, read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566313.0


I am starting to come to the conclusion Mr Gay is a one man team for Coinpal (other than myself) and has created multiple aliases to add credibility to the Coinpal company and everything is behind so he is making excuses. If that's the case, it may be legit but I will be pulling my investment unless I get increased shares in the business, at least 15'000 and my fair amount of the partner profit (there isn't as many partners if my theory is correct so the 30% owned by the partners will be 15% each.)



Screengrabs should be up in about an hour or two.

Apparently I am the scammer according to a few people on the coinpal I.P.O.



It appears that this was a mass attack to me now. Coinpal were acting unresponsive at the time and there were clues they did it to me but not so sure it could be them seeing the scale of this theft.


I am a Coinpal partner, but I have had little to no contact with any of the team in about 5 days and we launch in 5 days.






I am 'Ryan-Coinpal' just due to this theft, I was mass hacked and they blocked me out of my Cryptostocks account with a large amount of shares plus all of my personal emails and hostgator accounts plus my work emails that I used to verify for Cryptostocks.


My guess now is that Coinpal is run by one person (other than myself - I am the marketer/brander) and even though they say there is more partners it is only 1 man (Ryan Gay) not me I am Ryan Milligan, to make it look more credible. Regardless, I will know what has happened to my shares soon hopefully through CS support and then I'll know where they are.

I ran a textual language analysis on Mr Gay and another partners emails to me and it came back at 83% meaning the emails I received from 'Chris' and 'Ryan' are more than likely written by the same person.



Read this thread for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525700.0

Skip to about page 3 on it.

I dont have access to the CS account as of right now. He deleted the email when he was in my hostgator control panel. I just re-opened it but I don't know if CS will open a brand new or same account with it. Plus, he could have changed the primary email on the account.


If I can login (will be trying in 10-15 minutes) I will. If not I will have to contact CS support and wait to see what they can tell me.


The other account belonged to a friend, the 1500 shares were given to him as a gift but he told me to just take them back but I never got round to transferring them to my main account.



He never gave me his skype address/nic. Like I said he continually made excuses. I at the time was receiving enough info via email so I didnt mind that he wasnt skyping. However, I can screen grab our email conversations if you wish.

Don't click on the URL's then if you are that paranoid. Just Google the address or the I.P's. Ryan Gay is apparently in hospital.... Chris@coinpal.net hasn't come forward, exactly.. Why?


Why have none of the demos been put online? Why has it taken as long as it has for Chris to email me and why is there no full demo for you all like they promised me they would have for you all by today latest.


If they are legit, then for christ sake I want to pull my investment because in 5/6 days time we are meant to launch and I've seen nothing but a basic demo. I have not been given my marketing budget (30% of I.P.O) to create a hype which should have been started a week ago.

This most work shown to any of you was by me with the logo. So now i'm a huge scammer when what I am trying to do is take a bunch of amateur business men and turn them in to professionals. They are good at what they do from what I have seen, but they are running this business like a 12 year old would.

EDIT: Ryan and me never skyped. He made excuses time after time as to why he couldn't skype with me. I can screen grab our emails (from ryanmilligan247 to contact@coinpal.net)


Has anyone actually received their free Nano miner? I was told 3-5 days. It's been way longer, almost 14.

RYAN MILLIGAN
6 BREAC AN ORD
MARYBURGH
DINGWALL
IV7 8DH

wp-onlinemarketing.com is registered to me.

MY ADDRESS ABOVE IF YOU HADN'T GATHERED. MY I.P IS: 86.153.69.143


It comes up as my I.P is in Edinburgh/Glasgow/London (one of the three) but I believe that is because of my macs security/firewalls.




I can screen shot the recent activity from the email account ryanmilligan247@hotmail.co.uk if you want (the one that was hacked that led to my hostgator being hacked) You can see for yourself. The person is using windows and chrome when they log in.



Maybe Ryan is sick and is sick and in hospital. We will know when I find out where my shares are at this moment in time. They can't be cashed, they can only be moved to another cryptostocks account or they can be stored offline with the company. Either way, I still have access to my @coinpal.net email accounts, that's where chris messaged me.


I had someone do textual language analysis briefly on chris and Ryans writing styles (the type done when trying to doxx someone who wants to remain anonymous) and I was told that it was a good chance it was the same person writing the email.


I'm not defending anyone. I am in the middle here. This was either an 'inside job' or it was a personal hack on me (probably due to heart bleed) either way, Chris should be able to confirm where my coins are I believe, if not then he will at least be able to contact cryptostocks and find out. I may actually be able to do that myself from my coin pal email.


I did not say the hackers were from the UK, I said they were running chrome through windows and were using 2 UK I.P's. If you follow the block chain from a wallet they took 5 coins of mine from:


It appears they have actually stolen a huge amount of money. I am excluding nothing until I know where my shares are. If it wasn't an inside job and Ryan is in hospital then Coinpal developers better get their asses in to gear because we launch in a week but something isn't right here.

Okay, he is finally securely out I believe. This is 'RyanMilligan',


I have 2 I.P's he logged in to my personal accounts with:


86.132.118.203


81.155.225.83



'near Back Piccadilly, Manchester, M1 2'  Closest address avaliable for those I.p's, I'm just about to Google search it. yes that was the registrant as far as I know but it may have been fraudulent and this Mr. Ryan Gay has nothing to do with the scam/project. However, he may just be using a simple traceable proxy to do such work on accessing my emails as it's a UK I.P rather than a U.S for less suspicious activity.



Picture of street that log ins came from:

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=53.481086~-2.234014&lvl=18&sp=Point.sxd4gzgtdfh0_Approximate%2520Location____&sty=x~lat~53.481086~lon~-2.234014~alt~105.278~z~30~h~-2.3~p~0.1~pid~5082&app=5082&FORM=LMLTCC




EDIT: Just received an email from a chris@coinpal.net, saying Ryan (Ryan Gay) never talked to me (Ryan Milligan) as he was sick and in hospital. This may be true. This may be buying time so they don't have to release a demo. I said I want to know where my shares are, what account they were moved too and that if I receive my investment in BTC  back I will then confirm that they did so and are not scammers. Then I will probably re-invest upon full introduction of the whole team along with a FULL demo site for you all.


I know how the hacker locked me out of 'Ryan-Coinpal' but i don't understand how he could have changed the 'Coinpal' account password without having created the account himself. We will see shortly I suppose.