dmd multipool mining with GPU and utilizing nicehash mining tool is rewarding as it wasnt long time like double of average in last weeks guess high ETH price removed lot GPU hashpower GPU mining become profitable again use it for ur advantage! i have to say set up DMD Multipool mining with GPU was never easyer and it runs stable and automated switch to always most profitable algo https://github.com/nicehash/NiceHashMiner/releasesWith that configuration of GPUs, the example is using FAR more power that the $1.80 USD it's producing. Unless you're stealing your power, it's not profitable in a time frame that can even compete with working part-time at your local take-away or fast-food restaurant. |
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Still arguing I see, whats the point? Q3 is over and done with all we can do is wait a few more days for Q4. Time will tell......
I'm with ya socal ughhh just pay us, DEV! Situation here - like DEV is an asshole and Amber-Trade is scam - is not what we can call "truth". DEV works for Amber-Trade for living. Probably as spokesperson (AmberCoin) + representative + developer (AmberCoin) + contact person (AmberCoin and digital projects) + project manager (AmberCoin) etc. Or something like that. All Company and AmberCoin bigger decisions and all financial decisions are made by Amber-Trade, DEV just "translates" communication between shareholders and Amber-Trade and can propose solutions and other things. AmberCoin is not DEV-s personal "money", AmberCoin represents Amber-Trade company shares. So, don't be so personal. Dividends decisions are made by Amber-Trade / main investors, representing 51% of Company. Not DEV. This channel (Bitcointalk) is not very secure and private, so Amber-Trade must very carefully select what and how to communicate - even world's biggest spy networks (including GRU, NSA, GCHQ, CIA, Chinese agencies etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies ) are for hunt of... not terrorists... business data, business intelligence of course! Many (all) governments are silenty supporting (funding) secret and undercover business information gathering for their companies, their taxpayers. So, talk to much and Amber-Trade can be bunch of loosers. With all of us, shareholders. This is the main key for my eyes, why the present conflict (BTC versus AMBER dividends) was (is) actual. Just lack of communication. There were difficult times financially for Amber-Trade due to the big buy. We voted for Q3 and AMBER win. How difficult times? We can only imagine, watching dividends for Q4, Q1, Q2 and so on, watching developments of Amber-Trade and AmberCoin. Damn, I sound like http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/arse-licking  But real world it is not like cryptoworld, there are people everywhere and everything takes time. In cryptoworld - I voted for BTC, made some of planned dividends with DEUR fork-trading and now burning with RADS (may be). Personally, I don't recall ever calling Dev a crook, liar, etc. What I've tried to do is express my point of view regarding what's happening here. Problem is, facts are stubborn and people don't like to be wrong and/or lose money. I CERTAINLY count myself among those people. That said, $72,000 isn't a lot of money when you look at the sell-off that happened after the Q3 announcement. Those that buy directly from AmberTrade are supposed to be secured, but, anyone just trading the coin is on their own. Problem is, AmberTrade and AmberDev HAVE to respect those of us that support the blockchain - and that's not really happening with AMBER dividends vs. BTC dividends. You make some pretty obvious assumptions regarding what AmberDev actually does, which is only speculation. It makes more sense to me to look at what we KNOW about AmberTrade and AmberDev. At this time, they represent uncertainty and some aspects are somewhat deceitful. The facts bear this out no matter what arguments/assumptions you make. |
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If Q4 dividends are paid in BTC - how is that fair to those of use that got screwed in Q3?
Something to think about.
How is it unfair? Something to think about. OH I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BUDDY:) If a company chooses to pay it's dividends in unsecured "stock" in one quarter, then changes it's policy in the next - it creates uncertainty to say the least. It may not be "fair" in the most strict sense of the word, but it's conduct that manipulates market share, price, etc. That's what we're seeing here - manipulation. Do you think a company with assets of ~$30M-$40M REALLY needed to shelter $72,000 USD in Q3? That's like a guy with a $30,000 truck not able to fill his gas tank for $72. Were they really that "cash-poor"? Very hard for me to believe. |
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dev could you inform us about q4 dividends?are they also be paid as amber?or again we gonna vote for it? ifyou thinking vote i think dont waste your time cause anyway amber will win.
It can't be Amber again,If it is then it will be 100% confirmed scam Imo. If Q4 dividends are paid in BTC - how is that fair to those of use that got screwed in Q3? Something to think about. |
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I believe nothing here anymore. Even the thread title is a lie.
So why don't you dump your coins? Better now, than when it would be worth 1 sat... There is much more than 4k Amber in buy support over 3k... Dude, he'd be taking a loss to "dump" his dividend - why didn't big investors vote for BTC payout? BECAUSE THEY'D BE TAKING A LOSS. Why is it ok for big investors to want a good return? not <$1000 investors? |
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Everyone please change the subjects of your post to the following:
[AMBER] X13 POW/POS| 10k AMBER=0,01% SHARES | BUY, HOLD & GET DIVIDENDS in AMBER
Also, change your faucet/banner ads to reflect the truth.
Also, if Q4 dividends, IN THE SAME FISCAL YEAR, are paid in BTC -
HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT FAIR TO THOSE THAT GAVE-UP SO MUCH IN Q3???
Some gave-up HUNDREDS USD.
This is how it will go - the funds saved by the "BIG SHORT" in Q3 will mostly fund dividends in Q4.
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Got 3900 AMBER coins instead a few hundered dollars.
YAY. LOL
I just received my 2395 ($34) as well - dividend value reduced to 28% of advertised value. |
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the big player of shareholder here voted amber as the reinvestment
i believe they have good reasons to do it,because they spent the money bigger than us
just please accept it,.we now going to Q4 dividends
as the community on here lets together to support Amber trade to grow in future
we lucky can found Ambercoin in cryptocoin,if in another coin maybe just gone no news anymore
so,.lets go dev and lets go together
Food for thought: big investors voted Amber - True big investors bought from Amber Dev directly - True big investors can return coins at the price they bought from Dev - True big investors sell shares on exchange afterwards - Possible big investors walk away with all profits afterwards - True Categorically false - at some point, there will be no cash to buy back shares from investors. This is in evidence by AmberTrades' own actions to substitute dividends with unsecured coins from the blockchain. big investors sell shares on exchange afterwardsThey can indeed sell their staked coins (not shares) on the exchange - do the math, you'll see there isn't much profit at all. big investors walk away with all profits afterwardsReally? check with most large investors in this forrum - they are not optimistic. It's odd to me how many large investors on the list are silent, and somewhat anonymous. Those are my thoughts, not very appetizing. |
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I don't really get the incessant whining.
I wouldn't say the same things over and over again if valid reasons were given for the behavior. This is a community of investors and concerned parties, and new investors should be made aware of the continued strife with AmberTrade LTD. What I'm asking for is this: 1) Alter this topic and ad banners to more accurately reflect what dividends are comprised of. 2) Produce an annual report for shareholders as most publicly traded companies do. What is there "not to get" about this? How could AmberTrade justify paying Q4 dividends in BTC when Q3 wasn't? This will be interesting to say the least. |
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1. It is not a disadvantage for someone.
But advantage for those who support a long-term plans of the Company.
It is a gift for loyalty.
I'm sorry AmberDev, but, you don't get use words like "loyalty" when you advertise and entice investments and the terms are then altered when it requires investment from AmberTrade LTD. If AmberTrade LTD had to borrow money to pay investors, that can be nothing but a HORRIBLE business plan which you've made no comments regarding. If there is any implied "disloyalty" it's due to AmberTrade's actions, not investors wanting fair and just compensations for their investments. That said, we investors are all in this for the long term now. Or "loyalty" has been purchased by the current market conditions. I'll be re-upping my investment back into AMBER and will be more vocal than ever. But, my investment will not be more than the minimum required and all staked coins will be sold to help defray losses. I encourage other investors to do the same. I'll also be creating a free mining pool and block explorer so we investors/miners can have some influence on the heath of the blockchain. I'll post when it's ready: http://www.donkeypool.comYou sir embarrass yourself and AmberTrade LTD by rewarding only a select few, and then have the audacity to post it publicly. A very wise man one said it's almost always unwise to confuse dissent with dis-loyalty, and a wise man always knows the difference. |
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thats exact what we do
just wait for changelog of new wallet
and u see our bridge become future save
in a lot ways
and regarding bridge railing we have them
hybrid POW/POS made sure network stay unaffected
pure POW coins would run in major network problems if that happens to them
what for us just made a few guys lose a few hours electricity and network stay unaffected
and pool side saveguard exist also like the FORK DEDECTION SYSTEM from miningfield
which dedect and start counter measures (closing mining ports saving user electrical power)
Without a doubt, the forking issue is much better than last year. Are you saying there are additional anti-forking measures in the pending wallet update? |
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if u tell someone dont jump off the bridge it will hurt you
- and he jump -
who is responsible?
the guy who say dont jump?
the bridge?
or the guy who jumped?
should we forbid build bridges in the future?
)
Here's one step further in your "bridge" to reason: If you build a bridge with no railings, does it increase the number of jumpers? Do the bridge builders hold some of the blame? Well, this is not a bridge, and the principal really isn't the same. It isn't trivial to code safeguards against this type of thing, but, it can be done. Can we please make it a priority before it becomes a real issue? I would be glad to help, you just need to ask. |
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The title of this OP should be modified so it does not read "Buy, Hold, & Get dividends in BTC/$" when it is actually not the case anymore.
Hey, let's vote on that, see if we can get AmberDev to change the banner. I know nobody wants to read a negative post, but, where is the upside in this? Wait? See if others gamble on AMBER later? Again, the very definition of a Ponzy. I really do feel bad for those who invested $1k or more and bought directly from AmberTrade. Will you ever get your initial investment back? Try it, post your results - that's another way to know. |
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Well Alpinist has been around since April of 2013... 22 months before amber coin started and 18 months before dev registered. So there's that wrinkle in these theories. Plus between you, me, and him... he's the only one who had visited a amber trade office and posted pics. His credibility is a tad above your opinion. Tangibility and whatnot. Maybe he is dev *new crazy theory* lol. I'm gonna enjoy 1¢ shares from someone, I can feel it.
Has anyone stopped to consider the POSSIBILITY that Alpinist IS AmberCoinDev or at the very least some sort of paid shill? I find it funny how they BOTH incorrectly use the words "a" and "an" in EXACTLY the same context so unless they went to the exact same sub-par English course I find it hard to dismiss that fact. Also is there anyone else that could go to one of the offices and make sure this is legit? Always better to have multiple verified sources of confirmation then just ONE. I thought this today as well and tried doing some block chain analysis on Alpinist's Posts. Back in AUg 2014 he posted 43 Economy / Services / Re: Get your own Alt-Coin | X11/X13/X15+PoS,Scrypts PoW/PoS,Cryptonote, | Multi Pool on: August 28, 2014, 10:31:49 AM I need pure POS coin.
Windows+Linux+Mac wallets.
Can you make it?Did someone make him a POS coin then he made it Ambercoin? AWSOME SLUTHERY!!! Well done, you beat me to it  |
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Obviously I considered it... while super stoned  Feel free to call amber trade tomorrow, their numbers are listed. Call the office/building management to confirm their existence, I have for London. I can't confirm they are 100% legit, but they exist for sure. Q4 payment should be soon, the big Baltic amber show is in March/April. Wait and see is a crappy position to be in, but it's where we are. I'm a top 10-15 wallet, no attempts were made to sway my vote in any fashion. I truly wish btc won so the ugliness would end, but yeah that did not pan out. I will be putting up a painfully low 1 btc buy wall up tomorrow or Wednesday. Like 2000-2500 satoshi low, suicide on it if you must... but I'll take my chances with the company. Yup, I did the same thing earlier c-cex. I'll pay $0.01 per share up to 9980 AMBER. I'll bet you anything it gets filled after Q4 dividends are delayed - which will take another month I bet. |
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Has anyone stopped to consider the POSSIBILITY that Alpinist IS AmberCoinDev or at the very least some sort of paid shill? I find it funny how they BOTH incorrectly use the words "a" and "an" in EXACTLY the same context so unless they went to the exact same sub-par English course I find it hard to dismiss that fact. Also is there anyone else that could go to one of the offices and make sure this is legit? Always better to have multiple verified sources of confirmation then just ONE.
That's a pretty weighty accusation - I don' think that's the case. It actually makes sense for larger investors to get their dividends in AMBER. I can't blame any investor in doing what's best for them. That said, it's AmberTrade that's the problem here - or so says AmberDev. It's also a bit suspect that some large investors were given the oppotunity to get their dividends in AMBER last week, before the voting. Regardless, Q3 dividends are settled for MUCH less than stated at the end of Q3 - that's bad for everyone. Has anyone been able to get AmberTrade to payout AMBER purchased directly from them at the higher "guaranteed" rate? If so, please consider letting the rest of us know. That will build confidence, methinks. |
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One more US-based pool would likely help the forking issues.
I think I can get the cost down to $20 a month using Linode.
I just can't risk using existing equipment due to DDoS and stray asshats who punish our intrusion prevention.
If you'd consider a static monthly donation, I'd provide free mining.
Otherwise, I' think I'd have to do .5% to cover the costs.
Please PM me and/or post if you're interested in mining, or what you'd consider donating for free mining.
I'll post commitments, if any.
thx!
Hi there davembg There are already 3 pools nobody is using... cryptopia, crytopools and my NOMP pool. The problem is the lack of community actively managing hash rate spread between available pools and therefore allowing danbi's pool to run off in the wrong direction - not a lack of pools. Yeah, I see that now. Good, saves me time an headache:) Then, we need a POW submitblock cap in the code - self-monitoring isn't working. 3-forks in one-years time is bad, bad news. |
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@AmberCoinDev, I have only one question: Will the Ambercoins given as dividends be covered by investment protection. It is obvious to me, but I would like to have your acknowledgement.
bump... by 215 lbs of pissed-off hockey playing American hip-check. |
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Well if buy wall at 3K sato holds then we will be quite ok, it seems.
On c-cex? I don't see any "buy-wall" that will give me $120 (my Q3 dividend) for 2400 AMBER ($0.05 per AMBER). AFAIK, no such buy-wall exists. The only option is to ask AmberTrade to buy my AMBER at $0.05 ea - which I don't see proof of. |
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Don't panic, there is something called investment protection - company promised to buy back coins that are taken directly from it, at the same price it was bought.
WOW, where do you see that? I see where someone asks for it, but I don't see AmberDev agreeing. here: http://amber-trade.com/ambercoin/No, that says purchases - these are dividends. |
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