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I'm seeing some rejected shares from equihash, hopefully migration to the new server will resolve those issues.
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Which miner are you using for Groestl? Mine switched twice today and didn't show any rejected shares?
I used Klaus' ccminer for Groestl.
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Wonder if it might be possible to add an API that would allow us to query the actual blocks that we were part of mining?
Or even just the same last 50 blocks display that is showing on the wallet page?
Maybe I should make the request on a YIIMP or YAAMP thread?
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These are the two major ones: MiningPoolHub.com ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=472510.0) zpool.ca ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1751272.0) I'll head them off at the pass . . . there will be people coming to complain about zpool.ca in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . I use zpool.ca and get consistent returns. That's all I will say about it. There are plenty of other threads on it, do your own research. MiningPoolHub seems to be well received and I've seen little complaints about it. I agree zpool.ca seems far easier to get consistent returns on. I also find that MPH just seems harder to see what you are actually getting for mining performance. Moral of the story is if you want to exchange your own coins don't mine on an auto-exchange pool. I'd guess part of people's preference to MPH is that it has ethereum that you can exchange directly too, but there are still plenty of delays in getting things exchanged. |
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Let's just wait and maybe things will get better with time and you guys should diversify ur portfolio of coins to prevent this problems.
Diversification has nothing to do with this. No one is saying that this cost anyone other than a couple days of mining power. The point is the dev didn't think through how their coin was going to actually have to work before asking people to trust him. Now they are silent on the issue which is never a good sign. If the coins come through great just means that they'll get dumped on the market and the rest will sit around until someone decided to try and use this as an investment vehicle, which I doubt anyone will. Then again maxcoin was listed on Yobit and that is a known scam coin. |
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Thank you, appreciate your help. I run ccminer lbry with default settings, no overclocking of gpu. I didn't see any settings for temp, How can i lower the temperature ? Thx in advance!
Load up afterburner and set the power limit to 75-80% and see if it has much of an effect on your hashrate. I think you'll find you only lose a few percent, but the temps will run much closer to 65-75c. Overclocking can shorten the life, but I think it depends on the temp more than anything.
I think you basically covered it, I guess the question for miners now is (other than what coin), do you go with 4 1080s (or 3-4 1080ti) or 6 1070s.
What can your motherboard handle is important also, I'm leaning toward 4 1080s, I just don't know if it's worth it to go with 4 1080ti...
I'd say that if power costs are a concern I wouldn't go with the 1080ti's They will run a good 250W each so you'll need a big power supply for them. The 1080's are going to run more like 175-200w at the top end. Other thing is the 1080Ti's will likely hold above the $500+ resale value for a good long while, whereas I'd expect the 1080's will be closer to $350-400 after about a year, maybe less if mining dries up. Either way you'll likely have the cards paid off in 2-2.5 months of mining at current rates. I'm running all mine on Windows 10, but that's just because that's what I had handy. Not sure if the OS would affect my rates that much or not. I might try reloading one with Win7 and see if I get different results or not. I might actually try Linux too since that is likely much lower performance requirements and I could easily put that on a thumbdrive and try it out. |
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Hi, I can currently get a 1080 for 500usd brand new. Which I am planning on building a 7 gpu rig with them. what OS/miner should i use? I was initialy planning on using simplemining but for maximum profitability I should be mining Skein which isn't in there. So what should i mine?
P.S. I was thinking initially of getting 7 1070 but for 70usd and you get a 1080 which will have a higher resale value... So i am not really sure which path i should walk.
If you are looking strictly at Ethereum mining then go with the 1070's. All other mining I would go with the 1080's as you get better hashrate for about a better cost ratio and the resale will likely be much higher. I'm currently running 7-1080's and 1 1080Ti and make on average about .023 BTC per day doing auto-exchange at Zpool either with their built in multialgo or using Multipoolminer. You might be able to do better on specific coins, but only if you are willing to deal with trading them on the exchange yourself. Life for example when Digibyte spiked I was pulling in about $120/day for all my rigs, but that was only if I dumped the coins at the high point. You have to decide if you're taking your profits today or holding the coins you mine until the time is right for them. Here is example hashrates for a 1080: This is a single 1080 Zotac AMP edition https://i.imgur.com/hwuXWIT.pngThis is my 5 - 1080 rig - 2 Zotac Amp Extreme Edition, 2 ROG Strix, and an EVGA 1080 https://i.imgur.com/ghunKhp.pngThere is quite a bit of variability in what hash rates you'll get out of each cards including power draw. I notice those Zotac Amp Extreme Edition pull about 15% more hash, but also consume like 50W more in power. The 1080Ti gives roughly about 40% more hashrate for about 25% more power consumption and 30-50% more cost. You have to decide if that is worth it to you. Pure ethereum mining I'm seeing roughly like 20-25Mh per 1080 usually with no overclocking and setting a Power limit of 80%. Setting power limit to 100% gives like 3% more hash, but consumes like 20% more power. Damn this is perfect and exactly what i was looking for thank you so much XD Can you elaborate more? As to what OS and miner you use to mine with those 1080? Also i wasn't planning on mining ethereum but more like you said a multi algorithm on zpool or something. Those benchmark outputs are from Aaronsace's MultiPoolminer. The most recent commits to Github have the stuff to run on zpool, but not without some modifications as to what algorithms you want each of the miners to launch. You can see in the picture on the left it lists which miner is associated with which algorithm and the hashrate that I'm seeing from it. https://github.com/aaronsace/MultiPoolMiner/releasesI used to say the easiest way would be to use the batch script method that Nemo's Miner pack offered, but he's taken it down and replaced it with a zpool version of Multipoolminer. Here is a link to his old pack that includes the miners: https://mega.nz/d772a928-82f0-4a77-a7e2-bcc334843571Not sure how long that will last though. Otherwise the easiest by far is just download nichhashminer and use that since it is set it and forget it. Although my experience is you lose about 25% of your potential earnings compared to other methods. I prefer zpool over multimininghub at this point only because it seems like MHP penalizes you quite a bit for hopping around on the algos. |
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Hi, I can currently get a 1080 for 500usd brand new. Which I am planning on building a 7 gpu rig with them. what OS/miner should i use? I was initialy planning on using simplemining but for maximum profitability I should be mining Skein which isn't in there. So what should i mine?
P.S. I was thinking initially of getting 7 1070 but for 70usd and you get a 1080 which will have a higher resale value... So i am not really sure which path i should walk.
If you are looking strictly at Ethereum mining then go with the 1070's. All other mining I would go with the 1080's as you get better hashrate for about a better cost ratio and the resale will likely be much higher. I'm currently running 7-1080's and 1 1080Ti and make on average about .023 BTC per day doing auto-exchange at Zpool either with their built in multialgo or using Multipoolminer. You might be able to do better on specific coins, but only if you are willing to deal with trading them on the exchange yourself. Life for example when Digibyte spiked I was pulling in about $120/day for all my rigs, but that was only if I dumped the coins at the high point. You have to decide if you're taking your profits today or holding the coins you mine until the time is right for them. Here is example hashrates for a 1080: This is a single 1080 Zotac AMP edition https://i.imgur.com/hwuXWIT.pngThis is my 5 - 1080 rig - 2 Zotac Amp Extreme Edition, 2 ROG Strix, and an EVGA 1080 https://i.imgur.com/ghunKhp.pngThere is quite a bit of variability in what hash rates you'll get out of each cards including power draw. I notice those Zotac Amp Extreme Edition pull about 15% more hash, but also consume like 50W more in power. The 1080Ti gives roughly about 40% more hashrate for about 25% more power consumption and 30-50% more cost. You have to decide if that is worth it to you. Pure ethereum mining I'm seeing roughly like 20-25Mh per 1080 usually with no overclocking and setting a Power limit of 80%. Setting power limit to 100% gives like 3% more hash, but consumes like 20% more power. |
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Still waiting for my maxcoin deposit on my wallet at Yobit. Transaction is fully confirmed, but no coins in my wallet.
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The problem with any autoexchange is that you don't get to decide when the coins get sold. You may have mined them up when the coin was at its peak, but there is no guarantee that the coins get sold instantly after being mined. The way that altcoin markets move I'd expect there to be a lot of variability as to when the coins actually get sold. Having them using a trailing average price isn't that unreasonable either. If you want to be able to execute the best price trades then you need to not use auto-exchange. Even MPH and other pools that give fee rates for exchange likely don't include price fluctuations.
You are paying for convenience of not having to deal with multiple exchanges and still be able to play some variable algo mining to try and take advantage of those fluctuations. In fact if it were my exchange and the price tanked on a coin, I might intentionally pay out a perceived value of the coins and try and maximize the profits later. This might also be why you have such a gap between how much value you have unpaid and what is confirmed. Maybe I'm wrong, but none of this seems "shady" to me, just not fully transparent. Unless the system showed you exactly what price you supposedly mined up the coins at versus the price of when those coins were actually sold on the exchange would you know the gap. The talk here seems to be more about backseat trading when you have the system set on autopilot. If you think you can trade it better then mine up the coins directly and sell them yourself, that's the only way you can guarantee the prices.
As far as I've seen the payout on zpool.ca is pretty close to what I would expect for my hashrates, but instead of relying on one coin I can mine 15+ depending on the fluctuations.
I am cool with exchange rate volatility and pool op making some money of the swings for the convenience, but why not publish what the coins are/were being exchanged at? And on the "shady" part, since this info was not provided, I am concerned about exchanging the coins for a higher value and pool op keeping the difference. If that is being done and not being disclosed...that is shady. SP's example above seems to show this shadiness which concerns me. ' If I try zpool then I guess I need to watch the exchanges to see if I am getting ripped off...but then again if I am watching the exchanges I might as well trade the coins myself, so I guess there is no point to using zpool after all. Way to go zpool, shady or not, you just lost a miner. He didn't though. All he showed was that 4 hours after the coins were found they were exchanged for .035 and that there was a point on the Poloniex exchange that they could have been sold for more potentially. I'm not suspecting his evidence, but neither have timestamps so how do you really know that peak was when the coins were mined up. How long of a delay would you expect there to be to move the coins from the pool to the exchanges? With autoexchange you don't get to decide when the coins get sold. I would hope there is some logic that wouldn't sell the coins immediately after a dip or something like that, but again that is up to the algorithm to decide when the coins get sold. It could have just as easily skyrocketed and sold for more than when coins were mined and then you'd see a bonus. The problem seems to be that you don't get to see exactly when the coins you mined got sold and for how much. I don't know of any pool with auto-exchange that gives that detailed information. Nor would I necessarily expect it would because it would likely just generate tons of people complaining that the system sold their coins at the wrong time and it should have waited, or sold sooner. If you don't like it then grab the Yiimp code and rewrite it such that each user can control when the coins go to the exchange to get converted? As you said if you're watching the exchanges and want to maximize your profits on the trading side then auto-exchange pools are likely not for you. I've got a bunch of coins "sitting on the exchange" at MPH that I have no clue when they will get converted to my currency of choice. This isn't something that is exclusive to Zpool. |
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The problem with any autoexchange is that you don't get to decide when the coins get sold. You may have mined them up when the coin was at its peak, but there is no guarantee that the coins get sold instantly after being mined. The way that altcoin markets move I'd expect there to be a lot of variability as to when the coins actually get sold. Having them using a trailing average price isn't that unreasonable either. If you want to be able to execute the best price trades then you need to not use auto-exchange. Even MPH and other pools that give fee rates for exchange likely don't include price fluctuations.
You are paying for convenience of not having to deal with multiple exchanges and still be able to play some variable algo mining to try and take advantage of those fluctuations. In fact if it were my exchange and the price tanked on a coin, I might intentionally pay out a perceived value of the coins and try and maximize the profits later. This might also be why you have such a gap between how much value you have unpaid and what is confirmed. Maybe I'm wrong, but none of this seems "shady" to me, just not fully transparent. Unless the system showed you exactly what price you supposedly mined up the coins at versus the price of when those coins were actually sold on the exchange would you know the gap. The talk here seems to be more about backseat trading when you have the system set on autopilot. If you think you can trade it better then mine up the coins directly and sell them yourself, that's the only way you can guarantee the prices.
As far as I've seen the payout on zpool.ca is pretty close to what I would expect for my hashrates, but instead of relying on one coin I can mine 15+ depending on the fluctuations.
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Need some help on zpool
I have free electricity but cpu mostly
- intel i7 3520M with amd radeon 7570M (work laptop)
- amd e-350 (1,6 GHz) with amd radeon hd 6310 ( just for crypto 24/7)
In your opinion which is the best algo i can mine and with which miner?
Thanks
Not sure what you'll get for hashrate, but m7m is likely the best for your CPU's. I don't see either amd card listed in the benchmarks on zpool so you'd have to benchmark them with various miners to determine what you'll get. I'd guess not a lot maybe a few dollars each per day max. |
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Mind sharing your script that you use to do this? I was planning on working something out in Python when I relearned it, but this seems like something that would be pretty nice to have.
On Linux it's a simple call to curl every 5 minutes: The contents of recurl.sh: #!/bin/bash
{ date -Iminutes; curl -s http://zpool.ca/api/walletEx?address=MyWalletAddress; } >> outcurl.log
The parsing into a graph is more complex. Maybe I'll write a .NET program to do it later today and I'll share that instead. That would be cool. I did essentially this in a batch file so I can get the same output if you have something that parses it into a graphing format. I presume we need to parse the json or something before feeding it into a graphing library. @echo off
:loop
SET MYDATE=%date:~-4,4%-%date:~-7,2%-%date:~-10,2%T%time:~0,5%
echo | set /p dummyName=%MYDATE% >> walletlog.txt
curl -s http://zpool.ca/api/walletEx?address=walletaddress>> walletlog.txt
echo. >> walletlog.txt
timeout /t 300 /nobreak
goto :loop
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The profits and benchmarking is all stored in text files in the stats directory. If you change cards you'll likely want to clear it out and rebenchmark or save off the files for the specific cards. So that is why you are likely seeing carryover between runs. I'm not exactly sure what the difference between the top and the bottom number is exactly. I believe it is how much profit MPH at the top is the profits you've made on MPH compared to if you were just mining the coin directly on bottom. I'd actually like a bit of clarity on it myself because I've seen some pretty skewed numbers at times.
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Does anyone have a video or guide that shows what the standard behaviour of Multipoolminer should be? When I run it on my one rig it starts up several copies of the same miner concurrently with different parameters (most probably coinciding with the *.ps1 miner files).
For example, it runs:
Excavator0.ps1
Excavator1.ps1
Excavator2.ps1
Excavator3.ps1
Excavator4.ps1
etc...
all at the same time.
This basically kills all performance on the rig and it shows 0 H/s per card. I usually end up having to perform a hard-reset. Are there some configuration steps I'm missing, or is this just the default behaviour and I should just let it run?
Took me a bit to realize this, and you may already know, but each of those are set to start a miner on the GPU of the number following the file. I was noticing on my main box that it would start miners that wouldn't have a stratum address and it wasn't until I realized that it was using GPU 0-4, but I only have 2 GPU's on this machine. Once I deleted the others it ran much better. Although I still noticed that doing per device stuff seemed to cause various hangs and other issues. I ended up just using a single file and took out the ThreadIndex parameter so it would launch it on all GPU's in a single process instead. I'll probably play around with it some more eventually. |
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Similar then. I don't look much at the graph, but there are no earnings worth mentionng considering the time and the hashrate. I monitor earnings via the API every five minutes and graph the results locally. It's noticeable when the slope changes. Mind sharing your script that you use to do this? I was planning on working something out in Python when I relearned it, but this seems like something that would be pretty nice to have. |
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scam
Don't see how you can call it a scam when nobody really 'lost' anything of value. It's a new coin. We get it, you think he's a scammer, you don't need to repost 3 times to get your point across. So leave. Ever think maybe he's *busy*? People lost about 2 days of mining power into this super bonanza and ended up getting nothing at all in return. If the dev has a plan to fix it why does it take 2 weeks to implement? It's a scam because it was based on a failed premise of being #1 market cap based on the price of 45 coins turning into 20 billion without any kind of dilution of the market. It was just a gimmick to try and trick the market cap websites into acting like this coin is some how legit by manipulating a formula that the dev couldn't even understand. |
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20% fee for auto exchange?
What's that? |
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I'll throw my 4.2k on it. Every bit helps
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I'm guessing its because Vertcoin saw a 25% jump on Poloniex. Mine up that lyra2v2.
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