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241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: keep seeing 'thought experiment' in reference to bitcoins on: July 04, 2011, 11:06:58 PM
i haven't noticed that myself.

who refers to Bitcoin as a thought experiment?
242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what's your stop loss on: July 04, 2011, 10:37:16 PM
Are there people who prefer a coin over $15, but then days (or minutes?) later prefer $10 over a coin?

lots.

and it doesn't take much to push them in either direction.

hence... the troll.
243  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: July 04, 2011, 10:29:48 PM
The Planet, like the Market, is a self-correcting system.

If we cause enough change, it will become uncomfortable to live here. At that point, we either leave, or die off sufficiently that equilibrium is restored. Problem solved.

wouldn't it be nice if the concept of "self-correcting system" included the option to recognize and correct for on-coming disasters, in a non-political fashion?
244  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: July 04, 2011, 10:24:46 PM
Lol that site is a joke.  Full of pseudoscience, misrepresented facts, and inferences based on falsified data.

yeah.

because everybody knows that actual, working climate scientists are all liars, and getting rich off a secret blockchain started by al gore.  have i mentioned that he's fat yet?

uh-huh.
245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin ATM Is Coming at a Location Near You??? on: July 04, 2011, 09:58:48 PM
this would be a true game-changer.

it appears a bit early yet - but i certainly look forward to updates.

the thing that comes immediately to mind is this:  what is the exchange infrastructure behind this idea?  because really - without an exchange, there's just a well-tested ATM box.  the box isn't a challenge at all, and is actually kind of irrelevant, no?
246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I am willing to argue public education has ruined this country... on: July 04, 2011, 09:44:12 PM

It does effect me when I can't build anything except with an incompetent workforce of over-dependent drones. Luckily the internet attracts the foam that rises from this cesspool.

i offer a small mnemonic, learned in the US public education system of the 1950s...

Back when they still cared about these things...

than/then
affect/effect
etc... I weep for the English language.

yes.  what a wonderfully complex and strange language it is.

i try not to be overly sensitive.  there's too many native speakers of other languages here, for one thing.

still, whenever i think it might be useful...
247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: July 04, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
When you intellectual elite discover that Temperature increase causes more CO2 to be produced, not the other way around you'll be on the road to recovery.  Throughout the history of this planet rises in temperature are followed by CO2 increases.  The Oceans and Land exchange CO2 constantly with the Atmosphere at a level dwarfing what Humans produce by magnitudes, so please stop peddling your propaganda so you can cash in on all those Carbon Credits(otherwise known as the Global Tax).

Now will you guys go put your Big Boy Pants on?

ho-hum.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

i believe you're looking for #12...
248  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I am willing to argue public education has ruined this country... on: July 04, 2011, 09:29:27 PM

It does effect me when I can't build anything except with an incompetent workforce of over-dependent drones. Luckily the internet attracts the foam that rises from this cesspool.

i offer a small mnemonic, learned in the US public education system of the 1950s...

an affect produces an effect.  the two are in alphabetical order.

"it affects".  "an effect".

an affect essentially refers to an externalality - and is easy to remember due to having the opposite leading vowel.

no offense intended - offered only as a useful memory jog...
249  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I am willing to argue public education has ruined this country... on: July 04, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
i am willing to point out that i believe you to be completely mistaken.

public education created this country, and all of its wealth.

after our revolution, the only things the federal government paid for were the war debt, and our 'universal' (allowing for the varied bigotries of the day...) education:

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The whole people must take upon themselves the education of the whole people and be willing to bear the expenses of it. There should not be a district of one mile square, without a school in it, not founded by a charitable individual, but maintained at the public expense of the people themselves.

~John Adams (as President)

we achieved the position in the world which we occupy - now declining, obviously - because we were, at one time, the best-educated country on earth.  without any question at all.  the corporatocracy saw this early, and the first attacks on education began in the late 50s:  they are by now almost complete.

we have been eating our educational seed corn since then.

in fifty years less than 1% of the population will be educationally fit to make a distinction between genesis and evolution.
250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what's your stop loss on: July 04, 2011, 08:36:25 PM
i had a stop loss, a few weeks ago.

i put $1,600 into mining equipment in march, and i figured i'd hold 200 BTC on an $8 sell contract, just to be sure i could get the USD out.

but i got rid of that contract.  made no sense.

i figure i'm better off spending the BTC back into the community, to help it grow.

you're in or you're out.
251  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I'm an undeserving early adopter, and here is my side. on: July 04, 2011, 07:48:27 PM
posted by Vladimir:
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Why people have invented paper money in the first place?

Looks like gold bugs will eat me alive now, what a heresy "gold is not a perfect medium of exchange". Can you you teleport gold?

1) Not a gold bug

2) Sarcastic replies to any question of your points severely undermines your points.

3) Yes, you can teleport gold -- sort of.  Digital gold, digital certificates backed by gold, etc.

Gold backed much of the early paper money.   The paper was not the medium of exchange -- it was merely a representation of same.

Gold bars, coins etc. can surely be thought of as having limitations as mediums of exchange, from transport to security to making change for them etc.   But the issue there is not the gold, it's the bar.   Fiat money is a decent medium of exchange, until you try to buy a Cadillac with boxes of nickels.   

What I mean is:  you're conflating the actual form of conveyance with the medium.   Gold is an excellent medium of exchange, because of its physical properties which make it uniform, fungible etc.  LBMA 400oz gold bars are not very good for paying for lunch at a restaurant, but this doesn't have anything to do with gold's value as a medium of exchange.   Buying a $0.50 pack of gum with a $100 bill, or trying to stick a quarter in the bill slot of a change machine also present problems, without affecting the value of the USD as a medium of exchange.

I hope that makes sense. 

So, again, aside from the settled issue of conveyance, why is gold a lousy medium of exchange?


Frank

gold is a lousy medium of exchange for all the reasons you're trying to gloss over, and a couple others.

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LBMA 400oz gold bars are not very good for paying for lunch at a restaurant, but this doesn't have anything to do with gold's value as a medium of exchange.

yes, it does.  gold is simply not practically divisible.  $5.00 worth of gold to pay for that lunch is beyond our technical ability to mint as a denomination, and carry around without worry.  how do you carry around 1/300th of an ounce (0.0846 gm!!) of anything, without putting it into some (comparatively) massive support structure, like plastic or tempered-glass caddies?  and note that the caddy makes it easy to counterfeit:  who's going to pry open every 1/300 oz caddy to perform an assay?

how does one make change in gold for all the various price-points which exist in the marketplace?

the "physical properties which make it uniform, fungible etc." are exactly those properties which make it easy to counterfeit gold: i.e., alloy it.

one of the reasons gold coinage failed was the 'shavers':  the people who walked around with gold coin in a bag all day, jingling the coins together, and collecting the dust in the bag at the end of every day.  or who actually shaved bits off the coins with a knife.

i repeat:  gold is a lousy medium of exchange.  and not as good a store of value as most seem to think.

it's heavy, it's delicate, it draws violence like shit draws flies, it can't be hidden easily, it can't be transported across borders without being discovered, it can't be backed-up, and it can't be spent easily in any denomination.  frankly, just as a matter of simplicity, security, and convenience... i'd rather have USD.
252  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin v0.3.24 release candidate available on: July 04, 2011, 07:54:27 AM
still wondering about the correct upgrade procedure (for linux?)...

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C4) Internal wallet code cleanup.  While invisible to an end user, this change provides the basis for v0.4's wallet encryption.

install 0.3.24, replace wallet.dat with the wallet.dat from the old (0.3.23) client, and -rescan?

or install 0.3.24, get a receiving address, and transfer all Bitcoin via the blockchain from old client to new?
253  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The New York Times on: July 04, 2011, 05:58:14 AM
What if FOX "News" covers this? I think I'll crawl back into my little underground cave by then...  Sad

BITCOIN!!!

Al Quaeda plot?  Or George Soros' secret abortion clinic fund?

We report.  You decide.
254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A passage for those who really think the Government is a threat to Bitcoin... on: July 04, 2011, 05:52:10 AM
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When a large number of agents are utilized to break a narcotics ring, that leaves fewer people to police the average marijuana smoker. And when they marshal their resources to crack a million-dollar tax fraud, that leaves less manpower to look after the normal individual tax returns.

yes.

and as you ponder your front-page ads in the wall street journal, Atlas - keep that in mind.  and this:

"the squeaky wheel gets the grease."
255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The New York Times on: July 04, 2011, 05:46:07 AM
it was actually better than most.  quite factual, with little drama.
256  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What "Known Celebrity" would be down with Bitcoin? Seriously on: July 04, 2011, 03:33:55 AM

Randall Munroe (xkcd.com).  One of my earliest bitcoin-related thoughts was that he is going to make a fortune as soon as he puts up a bitcoin receiving address.

[Edit: looks like Randall is way ahead of me: http://xkcd.com/bitcoin/ -- too bad]


Wil Wheaton (Westley from ST:TNG).  Respected (yes, really), huge geek fanboy following (e.g. on Twitter).


Joss Whedon (creator of Firefly, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, others).  If he puts bitcoin into one of his stories, the fight is over.  Game, set, match.


We should send them letters...  Lots of letters.



joss whedon - yes.  those sci-fi guys are always looking for something new to call the currency used in the worlds they create.

also... what about Serj Tankian?
257  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I'm an undeserving early adopter, and here is my side. on: July 04, 2011, 03:17:04 AM
Pretense you say you're an early adopter but why is this your first post in the forum??

Why have you waited more than 2 years to post a so well elaborated post as this one?



Good point.


Still waiting for these 2 answers.
Your profile says you registered in the forum today !! Why did you took so long? What happened today?

it's a lousy goddamn point.

have you read this forum?

way to go, Pretense!
258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: July 03, 2011, 05:09:46 PM

Therefore initiating violence against other people is moral?

never.

but defending ones self from violence is always moral.

who is initiating violence?  i mean - the truth of global warming is clear - and only argued by people like Lord Monckton (who is not a Lord and has a degree in journalism, but has nevertheless been invited to testify before Congress - by Republicans like Inhofe, who is purely owned by Exxon), or Rick Santorum.

at this point, the people who are initiating violence are those who defend one more day's profits of big oil - and who are paid to do so, thinking they'll get to join the club.  they won't.  but they will create a billion climate refugees in the course of the next three to four decades.  where will they go?  how will they get there?  what will they eat?  violence, you were saying?

259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming? on: July 03, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
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Seriously, though, how would a libertarian society address global warming?

reading the posts above, the answer should be obvious.

it wouldn't.  it would dither.  it would slice and dice reality with polite legal and quasi-legal fictions.  it would assign blame incrementally, and feel bad about itself decrementally.  it would grant exemptions for wealth, while refusing to recognize that wealth was the cause.  it would politicize, and demonize.  it would deflect, and obfuscate.

it would do everything - and more - seen in the posts above.  posts in, arguably, one of the most purely libertarian sites around.

*

it would die.

*

here is the truth:

some very few things are so big that they transcend politics.  or national government.

global warming is one of them.
260  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: new AMD A8-3850 X4 for mining on: July 03, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
It's not going to be very good.  This is an APU.  Can't really stuff 2 or more of these into a motherboard

i wonder if this thing will have a passive backplane incarnation.  the whole thing, which is a motherboard of sorts, looks pretty self-contained and is only $130 USD, at what?  ...30-40 watts?

it's got 400 stream processors, which puts it into somewhere around 100Mh/sec territory.

a ten-slot backplane setup would net a Gigahash, at 300-400 watts, for under $1,500 - a bit higher priced than three 5850s (if you can find them) in a three-PCIe slot motherboard with CPU etc., but much lower operating costs.  the 5850s would draw almost 600W just by themselves.

interesting.
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