Are you going to recommend Gulden to your friends and family? I recommended ... shame on me ! Now I recommend it to Rijk Family The truth is a lot of people in there are all wanting to ask these questions but know they will be punished and keep quiet. I am waiting for the next pump and I will sell my 48.5k . One of my minions that is hiding quietly in their slack sent me this today:  It perfectly portrays the dictatorial abuse they pose upon the fanboys, after a guy stated that it's needed to allow both critics and cheerleader to maintain good balance. Let me translate my altrego: "I'm not one bit interested in balance, what we need is productivity, only that gets Gulden to the next level. Wether this happens in a critical or euphoric way doesn't interest me at all. This slack is not something any user is entitled to, everybody is merely a guest here. We (Admins and I) decide what happens here, if we don't like something, we act upon it. It has nothing to do with democracy, no one has to be here."Perhaps if only he would get productive and act upon his promise to deliver POW2 and SEGSIG in stead of dictating rules upon his followers........ I guess this says enough  |
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2 community members bet PoW2 would be out in June - August last year... until we see some proof I am going long on the release date.
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but krusty the clown did not come in spongebob, i just hope i get rich with gulden so ill never have to work for some people and it will work because a developer is black so its the best developer of the world black people are the best!
Elon Musk is from South Africa. A lot of smart people come from South Africa. What if MaNI is the Elon Musk of crypto because there is a lot of people posting here saying he can't do SegSig... Impossible, bullshit, dropped etc etc What will you do if he is successful? I personally would stand up and applaud MaNi all day long. I mean that! But... dunno, my guess is the Crusty the Clown posts were meant as sarcasm? It's funny how you guys manage to take a clearly sarcastically written post serious, while treating factual proof posted by others as fud. |
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I never try to manipulate anyone, if so, I would be creating FUD to buy cheaper.
Ok, what would you call first placing this: Good news coming soon  Some people already know about that, so price is going up, it's normal and then edit it to this: Good news coming soon [EDIT: I removed the source, I can't give insider info nor tell the details but stay tuned, February will be a Gulden month ] That's 100% pure manipulation for you right there pal! Drawing FOMO to buy by acting like you had placed a link to proof that good news is coming. Like you have inside info that shows you have to buy now! But don't worry folks Mr. Pissman is here to keep all the facts straight from now on! |
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Good news coming soon  [EDIT: I removed the source, I can't give insider info nor tell the details but stay tuned, February will be a Gulden month ] And proof of deception 1 already presented itself (thx Spoofy!) As you can see in my first response, the original message contained no source! He’s trying to manipulate you! |
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Good news coming soon Some people already know about that, so price is going up, it's normal BTC price drops, so relative to euro sat price goes up. Like 99,999998% of you, this clown has zero access to any info from the team at all. Don’t buy into the lies! |
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Facts remain facts people!The statement that drew my attention was as follows: "No one can be held accountable for anything in Gulden, for Gulden is nothing. There is no company and no one gets paid to do anything. There is no authority and everyone is able to contribute the way they like"This is the short version of this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495990.msg29510851#msg29510851Well, here come the facts: - Gulden is a blockchain based token that is centrally managed and developed by a company called Gulden.com B.V. - The company has several people on it's payrol, including Rijk Plasman and his brother Rits Plasman. - The company pays a hired developer in South Africa, Malcolm Macleod by the hour for software development. - The salaries and invoices from these people are paid from funds that were attracted by selling shares to the community. - Those shares are backed by Gulden tokens that were reserved in the premine that was initially meant to be fairly distributed among the Dutch citizens for free. - A vast majority of the active community has always been against this self-enrichment by the team. - Although the BV was created at a later stage (to prevent tax fraud charges), it's a fact the team is paid for their involvement for over 2 years now. - By deciding to pay Malcolm for his work with community funds and drawing fulltime salaries for himself and family Rijk should accept he is accountable for any progress by this team. That includes delays and failure as well. - Since Gulden.com is a centralized platform, owned by a single person who bans everyone that criticizes his decisions it's fair to state there is an authority at work here. We already have over 5 different ANN's on this forum alone of which the last one is so heavily moderated it looks more like a blog. They are already at their third Slackchanel, that is totally off limits to anyone that even dares to comment on anything the company decides. So, my personal conclusion would be, base your decision on facts, rather than the lies that the Gulden zombies try to feed you here!
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Nah, as a master troll I need better adversaries, this crap is boring! |
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Great, I show that stating Gulden is not a company to be false by providing a printout of the Dutch chamber of commerce that clearly proves it IS A COMPANY and all you dumb fucks have to counter that truth is a bunch of video's about tinfoil hats and flat Earths? Any idea how counterproductive that is? Come on grandpa, I know you can do better than this! |
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Hello Richpissman, Oh, have I made you angry? Do you still have someone to fight against now? What kind of unfortunate figure you have to be to create an account to oppose a single person in this way. I'd say that you've come up with enough reasons in your distorted mind to start a great court case against this Rijk Plasman. I hope also that you understand that what you all come across here can't be taken seriously by anyone with this "Rich Pissman" account. It's only a personal vendetta And nothing more The only reason I keep coming back here is you pundits spreading lies all the time. I just bring the inconvenient truth, founded with facts. Don't mistake my cool and patient persistence with anger either, you can't win from facts with lies and dumb remarks. As for names, you chose a dead rabbit that got eaten by it's owner, perhaps go and find a mirror first mate. |
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no authority ? seriously ? what does the infamous Rijk in this project ? The infamous Rijk is only infamous because of your stupid thoughts. And it's only an authority because you see him probably in that way. See above sir, Rijk is the sole shareholder of Gulden.com Holding B.V. That holding he owns is the sole shareholder of Gulden.com B.V. Gulden.com B.V. owns all the rights to websites like Gulden.com, also has the account on which the App's that Gulden runs on in it's possession and sit's on over 600BTC collected from the community that paid it to them under the disguise of Shares, which in plain sight is an ICO that is even not allowed by Dutch law without an AFM permit! By selling them Guldens for BTC he managed to work around that. Do you pay them ? for sure we (the community) pay them ! what about the 600 btc collected by Rijk from the community to the development of the gulden ?The community you belongs too? Are you so stupid that you belong too that community? No dumb ass, YOU belong to that community as well. I can smell the circle jerk fanboys from miles around! which Deadline ? The deadline that was announced and postponed a lot of time on the gulden website for 2.0 June 2017 then september 2017 then december 2017 then ... no idea but we are in february 2018 and allways nothing ! You saw the announcements as a deadline? You must be dead already than Actually, the POW2 was promised as early as dec 2016. So claiming they are way over time is an understatement! They refrain from deadlines, because the care shit about the well-being of their investors! Until now it is more like a scam ... hey give me btc and I will find How to change lead into gold .... In your short sighted vision it is a scam. About 60.000 wallet owners have apparently a different view. Someone like you talking about shortsightedness is making me laugh! 60.000 wallets is nothing! Especially if you take into consideration that over 80% of them are obsolete. And please, whipe that grin of your face after each stupid remark you make. It looks stupid! |
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It is nice to see that many people here don't understand how it works at Gulden.
Gulden is nothing.
I agree Gulden is not a company.
NOT TRUE! Exhibit A:  It is a registered company, owned by Rijk Plasman. See here: https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/bedrijf-kiezen/?q=gulden.com+bv#No one can be held liable for anything because there is no authority. So talking about "the team" or "they" or "the dev's" who have to deliver something on time or do marketing or must be doing this or that is bull shit.
They can be, because they own the premine, the websites and not to mention, the big stack of BTC they acquired by selling "shares" to nitwits like you! There are only a few people who do the development of the wallets and they are not accountable to anyone. Do you pay them?
Well, fortunately I haven't paid them shit, but as mentioned above, they raised over $ 3mm in funds from their community with shares, from which they pay themselves good salaries, so I guess someone is paying them indeed! |
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Do not forget to remove Kim-jong-Rijk and his friends from the 176 miners
Kim Jong Rijk  Isn't that a bit harsh though? to the Un guy I mean? |
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The answer from the developer is missing here: To clear up the above before anyone gets confused. There are lots of different kinds of "open source" and different ideas about what "open source" should mean and they are not all compatible with one another. For every "open source" project there is a license that dictates what is and is not okay to do with the product, if you care about such things you should read the license and not just assume that open source means "anyone can copy". Gulden is not "open source" if you go by the strict OSI definition https://opensource.org/osdGulden is open source for the definition of open source we consider important: * Anyone can view/inspect our source code * Anyone can compile our code * Anyone can modify our code for personal use so long as they don't give it to anyone and/or as long as it is not modified to work on a different blockchain. * Anyone can submit patches to our code etc. This explicitly does not include copying/modifying the software for the purposes of using it on a blockchain that is not the Gulden one, or distributing it to other people etc. without the express permission of the Gulden developers. So to answer the original question: 1) They would be in legal violation of the licensing. 2) The amount of work being done here is far beyond the scope of something a "copy and paste" developer could copy/paste into another existing project successfully. The average copy/paste project differs from bitcoin by only a few hundred lines of code, there are dozens of documents explaining how to make such a project, and even then the 'copy/paste developers' of these projects tend to struggle and make obvious mistakes, Gulden differs by around 40k lines of code at this point and growing, much of this code is of high complexity and easy to mess up, there are no instructions on how to copy this code... 3) This is a lot of work, it is much easier for such projects to just make up fake features like they already do - so I imagine they would prefer to do that. 4) Even ignoring the above we would have first mover advantage and all that they would achieve is to draw attention to us as the original developers, meanwhile we will already be developing the next thing. In short; I don't really think it is a legitimate concern, but even if it were, so what? Should we just throw our arms up in the air and give up? The way I see it there is only one thing to do, keep going forward...Trouble is, even if you think you're on the right track, you will get run over by a train if you just sit there! And that's exactly what Gulden has been doing over the last year, staying steady at the same $ price, while bitcoin went x 18! So you might say the Bitcoin train ran you over multiple times already! |
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 Good luck folks! Gulden is becoming even worse than Ripple. Closed source and a dictator running the show that makes Jamie Dimon look like Santa Clause! MERRY CHRISTMAS!! |
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I'm new to all of this, but learned a lot the last two weeks. It seems like humans never change, wether it's religion, football, skin color or any other shitty 'difference', it will always be 'we against them'! So in coinland it's bitcoin against ripple against ... etc Just follow what you believe is true I do feel relaxed holding Gulden, I feel i can go to sleep and wake up the next morning and the price hasn't dropped to $0.05. With all the great innovation still to come I feel confident Gulden can maintain a $0.1 for a long time. This is the advantage of investing in a coin with such a low value for what it offers already and about to offer in the future. I can sleep well at night. Standing still in crypto equals going backwards. People that have hodled BTC since Jan 1st this year woke up every day with huge profits. Those who put it in NLG have only seen steady store of $ value, without the 2000%+ gains. Beats me how you are not banging your head against te wall for not selling all NLG on Jan 1st while it was @ 3k sat. If you would have sold 100k NLG then you would be sitting on 3BTC now, worth over $ 51,000. Sell that same 100k NLG now you only get 0.5BTC Worth only $ 8,500 I know I made a miscalculation last time, but this is undeniable! |
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 6.9BTC left in the buy book and then it's gone. Soon trading stones might even be more profitable indeed! |
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 Yeah, that's your typical trustworthy financial advisor for you right there! |
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 If you look closely, very close, you might see a little green spot! |
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 Yep, looks like a winner to me! |
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