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2401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: James Turk's Q&A with GoldMoney followers includes section on Bitcoin on: August 18, 2012, 09:28:09 AM
I can totally understand that he doesn't get bitcoin, even is he knows monetary history.

Even if he understood perfectly well what BTC are and their potentialities, he still would have an incentive to talk them down, to discredit a big competitor to the stuff he is selling.
2402  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: August 17, 2012, 10:44:43 PM
How about PPT.D? It should mature in a few minutes...
2403  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 4.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 17, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
I think any partial payments made by pirate to bitcoinmax should be distributed evenly by percentage to all accounts.
Its the fairest way to do things.

+ 1
2404  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 4.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 17, 2012, 09:33:27 PM
few "investors" or perhaps nobody will see their bitcoins back. He will now say, I have an unexpected number of withdrawal requests; fulfilling them will take some time, etc. He might even fulfill a few small requests to buy himself some more time. But then it's game over.

Why the hassle of making announcements then? If it was just a ponzi coming down it would have been better to just vanish in the air with the whole loot a.s.a.p.
2405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reality of BTC that too many (and myself) dont want to believe. on: August 17, 2012, 09:27:03 PM
How many of you would continue if your country made it illegal to create and use BTC and would sieze your assets if you were caught? I bet almost none of you would risk it. I certainly wont.


bet accepted (because prohibitionism works... not)

2406  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 4.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 17, 2012, 07:57:32 PM
I wonder if the drop in BTC/USD has anything to do with this... Sure is funny that this is announced and the bitcoin drops by almost 2 dollars....

Of course it have...

I figured the opposite: that the price spike was due to him buying BTC to face the wave of withdrawals...
2407  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 4.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 17, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
the holy spirit will support any longer

(The last famous words)

Now that Pirate just announced to close his shop let's all go in [Drama Queen Mode: ON] and start bitching and moaning, so to get
at least some phun.

IMHO he could have been hit badly by the price shoot already, and the panic withdrawals as a reaction to his dividends cut may have been the last straw.
Any idea about what happens next?
2408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: What is the current investor emotion now? on: August 17, 2012, 05:05:50 PM
There are several further degrees beyond euphoria:
- "It just goes up"
- "New normal / New paradigm"
- "Bull's nirvana"
- "This is going to end badly / Someone please stop it!"
- "WTF? LOL!"
- "I pwn the world!"
...
Add yours
2409  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will this bubble pop? on: August 16, 2012, 10:39:39 PM
http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/08/a-waiting-game/ :

I have read the article and it begs the question: Is it really the banks not willing to lend or is that many people are not willing to borrow?

Article refers to borrowing by businesses, not consumers. But it is just a detail. The point is that in a shock economy they will be able to get everything for peanuts as always, in order to transform us in s/t worse than medieval serfs. The funny thing is that all this is possible using our money.
2410  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will this bubble pop? on: August 16, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
you really think the people of the world would let a govt. tax them for collecting rainwater?  there would hopefully be a very strong resistance to any bs like this. i have enough faith in people that we wont let this kind of crap happen.  they wouldnt have enough police to try and stop everyone from collecting rainwater.

You are an optimist, aren't you?

Gary Harrington, Oregon Resident, Sentenced To Jail For Stockpiling Rainwater
Posted: 08/16/2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/gary-harrington-oregon-water-rainwater_n_1784378.html

 
2411  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will this bubble pop? on: August 16, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Feeling a little nihilistic?  Undecided

No, just realist: once "they" monopolize even water and/or tax you even for collecting rainwater, owning some gold or BTC is not going to save your butt in the medium term.
2412  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will this bubble pop? on: August 16, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
This is what the banks are waiting for. And our politicians are giving them our money so they can."

this is what i've been saying since i came here.  what do you think this does to the price of gold?

I am not so sure. I own gold and silver from 2008, but in case of a proper collapse as it may happen, I think even us gold and BTC bugs are going to be royally phucked like the rest. The best investment would probably be some good piece of land in South America, or an underground nuke-proof bunker and lots of spam.
2413  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will this bubble pop? on: August 16, 2012, 08:27:21 PM
There is even the chance that the whole world economy "pops" at once before the BTC price. Anyway the banksters have the same expectations of all the BTC bulls here:

From: http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/08/a-waiting-game/ :

"I don’t think the banks will lend in to the real economy because they calculate that such a socially useful strategy gives low returns to them. Should they ‘defect’ from this generous strategy and chose instead the selfish strategy of ‘hoard and wait’ then they could make not just a large return but an epic one. They could emerge as owners of everything people will need in order to rebuild their lives. Water, power, rail, hospitals, you name it.

This is what the banks are waiting for. And our politicians are giving them our money so they can."
2414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Max Keiser - "Libertarians are Intellectually Lazy & Idiots" on: August 16, 2012, 07:32:53 PM
niemivh: do you expect to gain some rep being so full of hot air or are you just trolling for the sake of it?
2415  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will this bubble pop? on: August 15, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
When are we going to see the price settle back down for a brief interval before resuming its inexorable upward plod?

When s/t bad happens (like Gox). e.g. Pirate vanish.
Then BTC would be famous as the only money backed by drugs and ponzis. (Not that I would not invest any more in it)

Or when ppl figures out that the blockchain growth is not practical and/or cannot sustain a serious traffic of Tx.
2416  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 3,100% interest... Clueless investors welcome. on: August 15, 2012, 06:46:32 PM
If the rates are getting lower maybe some think its time to join the train before the ride stops. Seeing it as a business venture soon to end.

According this logic, they must be in the business of catching falling knives then.
2417  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 15, 2012, 01:54:58 PM
In any case, since Bitcoinmax is the largest PPT by far, it should ask a better treatment from Pirate IMHO.
2418  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] [Stochastically.com] - Dividend Returns - updated daily on: August 14, 2012, 09:12:47 PM
Several others weekly yields seem now doubled or screwed up...
2419  Economy / Securities / Re: TYGRR.BOND-PI 1 BTC face 100% Insured Pirate Bonds BTCST on: August 14, 2012, 07:35:58 PM
Does this mean if pirate shuts down his operation and returns everyone's money, you only buy back at 1BTC?
Yes.
I'm betting Pirate will do just this.

So if you are right paying anything for insurance on Pirate is pointless.

I tend to agree, for different reasons (a diversified portfolio can be cheaper and pay more)
2420  Economy / Securities / Re: Weekly loss of N% guaranteed - Enjoy perpetual loss with fixed Mh/s mining turds on: August 14, 2012, 07:04:44 PM
I pulled everything out of GLBSE last month.

Would you mind to tell us why?
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