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2421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 20, 2022, 08:06:13 AM
The World Cup games finally start today... I think there will be a lot of interesting matches and I hope there won't be many boring ones... In the opening match I don't know who can win, the situation is not clear... On the one hand Ecuador got to World Cup from the fourth place, losing only to Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay... On the other hand Qatar has had no problems at all in qualifying... I'm going to guess that Ecuador will win...

What do you mean when you say that Qatar had no problems qualifying for the World Cup? They are the host and they qualified because of that and not because they beat someone in qualifications. Normally I would say that Uruguay will win this match easily but this is the first match of the tournament and surprises are normal. For me a draw would be a surprise and Qatar winning would be a shock.
2422  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Grijači koji rudare bitcoine on: November 20, 2022, 08:02:22 AM
Ma razumijem to, ali realna cijena ovakve "grijalice" bi trebala biti $300-$400 max. Koliko uopće vrijedi jedan Antminer S9 ovih dana? A vjerujem da proizvodi jednaku količinu topline kao i ova grijalica. Uostalom, ako bi netko ovo rastavio, kladim se da bi unutra pronašao neku vrstu 'off the shelf' minera. I što na kraju dobijemo? Samo fancy kućište i custom-made app za mobitel.


Na Amazonu Antminer S9 košta malo preko $700 ali stvar je u tome da je ova grijalica namijenjena korištenju u kući, a Antminer zbog buke baš i ne možeš imati u kući. Nisam nikad čuo koliku buku proizvode ali čitao sam usporedbe s avionskim motorom. Nekako mi je nevjerojatno da nešto tako maleno može proizvesti toliko buke ali tako kažu...
2423  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 20, 2022, 07:59:28 AM
A čuj ako nemaš para nemaš šta ni izgubiti, tužno je to ali zato ja poprlično mirno spavam u bear marketu Smiley

Ali sada mi je već bear polako dojadio, vrijeme je da krenemo u neke nove pobjede. Znam da nećemo još ali tržišta se obično i okrenu u trenutku kada je najcrnije. A puno crnije od ovoga ne ide osim ako Tether ili Binance ne zarone.

Meni je isto dosadilo krito tržište ali ako se sjećate slično je bilo prije Covid crasha kad je BTC bio prilično dosadan i onda je jedno jutro zaronio 50%. Nekako mislim da FTX crash nije jedini black swan event u ovom bear marketu nego da nas čeka još jedan. Vjerojatno zbog pada uzrokovanog FTX crashom cijena neće zaroniti 50% ali mislim da bi mogla pasti još malo ispod 15k.

Inače, ovo je prvi bear market tijekom kojeg je cijena BTC-a otišla ispod najviše cijene tijekom pretprošlog bull runa (oko $19k). Ali isto tako je prošli bull run prvi put zarvšio s double top umjesto blow off top.
2424  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Grijači koji rudare bitcoine on: November 20, 2022, 07:41:15 AM
Priznajem, ideja je zanimljiva, ali isplativost je i dalje upitna. Nema puno specifikacija na web stranici, ali prema dostupnim informacijama uređaj nudi up to 14 TH/s (pretpostavljam SHA-256) uz potrošnju struje od 1,4kWh. Čak ako i zanemarimo potrošnju struje (pretvaramo el. energiju u toplinsku) i dalje nam ostaje zarada od samo 0,000050 BTC dnevno, odnosno ~$0,8 (prema trenutnoj vrijednosti BTC-a).

Kada podijelimo $1150 s $0,8, ispada da su potrebne čak četiri godine (oko 1440 dana) neprekidnog rada da se uređaj isplati (ne uzimajuči u obzir mining dificulty). Iskreno sumnjam da uređaj može izdržati toliko dugo. Čak i ako bismo računali s vrlo vjerojatnim povećanjem cijene BTC-a u budućnosti, opet se više isplati uzeti 1150$ i kupiti BTC direktno. Barem je tako moje mišljenje.


Mislim da ovo nije uređaj kojeg će kupiti netko tko baš želi rudariti BTC nego je više namijenjen ljudima koji planiraju kupiti električnu grijalicu koja troši puno struje, a rudarenje je samo način kako smanjiti potrošnju struje. Osim toga, rudarenje BTC-a je možda i način da naprave razliku između svih ostalih grijalica koje "samo" griju prostor i svoje s kojom se račun za struju može malo smanjiti.
2425  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: November 20, 2022, 07:34:38 AM
Prijavi se opet u Betnomi kampanju, još uvijek ima slobodnih mjesta. Vidim da si slao već jednom prijavu pa si je onda povukao kad si primljen u Marsbet. Možda bi te menadžer i Betnomi kampanje primio ali te nije ni uzeo u razmatranje jer si objavio da si prhvaćen drugdje. I u signature i u avatar kampanji ima nepotpunjenih pozicija.   

Ma neka... Kad je ovakav bear, više volim iznos u dolarima dobiti u BTC-u nego da dobivam fiksni iznos u BTC-u. Osim toga, 0.0001 BTC po postu je maksimalno $40 tjedno što mi je nekako malo u odnosu na $70 koliko ostale kampanje plaćaju za Hero člana.
2426  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: November 20, 2022, 07:19:34 AM
Campaign killer striker again! Grin

Samo tjedan dana nakon što je krenula, moja kampanja je pauzirana jer menadžer nema kontakt s vlasnicima. Eto moje sreće... Nadam se da će nastaviti ali čak i da ne nastavi, vjerujem da su mi izgledi u nekoj drugoj kampanji puno bolji nego prije mjesec dana Smiley
2427  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Akcija kupujemo Bitcoine svaki dan on: November 20, 2022, 07:17:17 AM
/snip

inace, vidim da su se na listi tuzenih nasli svi promoteri FTX-a, medju njima i Tom Brady i Steph Curry, sto neko napisa ako Temasek (drzavna investiciona banka Singapura) za 8 meseci pregleda dokumentacije pre ulaganja u FTX nije primetio da FTX nema knjigovodstvo, kako su to Tom i Steph mogli Smiley

To samo pokazuje da uvijek treba paziti što reklamiraš, pogotovo ako si javna osoba koja ima mogućnost utjecaja na mišljenja i akcije drugih, "običnih" ljudi. Ako nisu mogli znati, a vjerojatno nisu, onda nisu trebali niti reklamirati FTX. Sad su suočeni s tužbama kao što bi bili suočeni i da su reklamirali neku ponzi shemu.
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: November 20, 2022, 07:13:58 AM
I think that Cosmi is a very good coach, but he simply did not have the right support from the club management and the right players to achieve better results.
Rijeka fans are very bitter and angry, currently there is a lot of negative news and energy around the club and I think that this season is definitely lost for Rijeka.
Next season, they will not be placed in the European competition, for the first time in a long time, because of this they will be much less attractive for new players and sponsors, and I think that Rijeka is waiting for a very long period of recovery and returning to the old paths of glory.
Dinamo will continue to be untouchable in the Croatian league, while Hajduk, Osijek and the ever-improving Slaven will fight for European competitions.


I agree and that's really sad for a club like Rijeka. I hope they will recover from this but it will take a long time. I don't understand how the club management thinks that this is a good way to do business. This way they will lose many of their fans and with that, a lot of money that comes from sponsors and tickets. I'm not sure what kind of deal Miskovic have but he too probably have someone to answer if the results are bad. I mean, he probably doesn't own the club. Or does he?
2429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽ on: November 18, 2022, 03:50:11 PM
Good luck to all of us playing Smiley I just hope that the ID I provided is good because I haven't used Sportsbet before.
2430  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 18, 2022, 03:02:24 PM
Znas kako, takve stvari se uglavnom desavaju odjednom i bez najave. Ukoliko se pojavi neki bezbednosni propust i neko ko ce to zloupotrebiti, sigurno taj nece prvo objaviti sve o tome pa tek nakon odredjenog period poceti da eksploatise taj proces. Pa je sve na tome da li si imao srece i ostao "neprimecen".

Ma jasno. Ali htio sam reći da postoji neki propust u generiranju privatnih ključeva ili seed phrasea,  vjerojatno bi do sad već bio otkriven. Jer nije generiranje javnog i privatnog ključa samo stvar kriptovaluta nego kompletne sigurnosti na Internetu.
2431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 18, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
Football always brings surprises.
Predictions for Group A
1. Netherlands
2. Senegal
3. Qatar
4. Ecuador


The result of the match has been determined by Qatar vs Ecuador, in my opinion both countries want to buy and sell attacks, even though Ecuador is everyone's favorite, but we have to be wary of the Qatar host game, because they are playing at home so anything can happen in football so , I hope that Qatar can win its first match in this World Cup..

LOL.. Ecuador at 4th place? IMO, they are the strongest team in Group A. During the CONMEBOL qualifiers, they managed to defeat strong opponents such as Colombia and Chile. And how can anyone claim that Senegal will finish at the 2nd position, when Sadio Mane is not playing for them? Mane is such an integral part of the Senegal squad and without him they will struggle to get any points from their group phase games. The fight for the no.1 spot in Group A will be between Ecuador and Netherlands and I would favor the former.

Ecuador probably won't finish at the 4th place, but I wouldn't say that they are better than Netherlands. I don't think that wins over Colombia and Chile proves that they are the best team in this group.
The group stage for this group will probably be that Netherlands will be first, Ecuador second, Qatar third and Senegal fourth. That is if Mane won't play for Senegal. If he recovers then there could be some surprises.
2432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: November 18, 2022, 12:11:57 PM
Let's see if Messi will really play in the world cup this time because there is no confirmation about it through official news although I personally believe that Messi will definitely be used by the Argentine team considering that Messi can still play well in Ligue1 at PSG. Although the productivity of the number of goals is no longer the same as when Messi was younger, Messi is still able to help the team play better.

There is no chance that Messi will be left out of the playing XI, if you are pointing towards that possibility. At this point, he is one of the top players in world football and Argentina's chances of winning the trophy this time depends a lot on him. Fortunately for Argentina, they are not overdependent on Messi (unlike the case with some of the other teams such as Portugal and Belgium), as they have good players such as Ángel Di María, Paulo Dybala and Lautaro Martínez, who can release some of the pressure on Messi.

That's right. I don't know how anyone can think that Messi won't be playing in the starting lineup for Argentina. He is their best player, but fortunately for them, other players are pretty good too. Besides, Messi is not a player who's only strength is scoring goals. He is also one of the best playmakers in the world. So he doesn't need to score a lot of goals for his team to be indispensable for them.
2433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: November 18, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
Most of the world's football fans are interested in Argentina this time. Everyone is hopeful that Argentina will win the World Cup title. They have great players in their team and they are performing very well at the moment. And their biggest confidence factor is that they are unbeaten in 36 matches so far.

I was thinking the same thing. When you read this thread, most posts are about Argentina and it's for a reason you mentioned - their streak of 36 matches they manage to stay unbeaten. It's impressive. But the World Cup is another thing and they will have to put an extra effort because every game is important and often all it takes is one mistake in a knockout stage to be sent home.
2434  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Binance kartica on: November 18, 2022, 11:50:54 AM
slazem se
kad samo pogledas Juni, i pad Celsius-a, situacija je bila sledeca:
- FTX je odvojio fond za pomoc projektima koji su u krizi zbog likvidnosti
- SBF je izjavio da postoji veci broj kripto menjacnica koje su tajno nesolventne
- FTX je izrazio nameru da kupi Celsius, pa odustao jer imaju veliku rupu u bilansima

sad kad je pukao FTX, situacija je bila sledeca:
- Binance je formirao fond za pomoc projektima koji su u krizi zbog likvidnosti
- CZ je izjavio da postoji veci broj kripto menjacnica koje su tajno nesolventne
- Binance je izrazio nameru da kupi FTX, pa odustao jer imaju veliku rupu u bilansima

ima tu jos slicnosti, ali mislim da je jasno kuda usmerava post

Wow! Sad kad vidim ovo, nevjerojatna je sličnost. Nadam se da Binance ne očekuje ovo što se dogodilo s FTX-om jer bi to stvarno bilo katastrofičan scenarij za kripto. Naravno da kripto ne bi propao zbog toga ali bi se u slučaju propasti Binance-a stvarno zapitao hoće li idući BTC halving stvarno pokrenuti bull run kako je bilo do sad. Za sad još uvijek vjerujem u to bez obzira na sve što se događalo oko FTX-a.
2435  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Akcija kupujemo Bitcoine svaki dan on: November 18, 2022, 09:55:33 AM
Evo ja se pridružujem akciji i odučio sam kupovati $70 vrijednosti BTC-a svaki tjedan. Naravno, ne govorim o kupnji za fiat nego o sudjelovanju u signature kampanjama. To je stvarno najbolji DCA prilikom kupnje Bitcoina koji postoji i drago mi je da ste me natjerali da se aktiviram u Gambling sekciji Grin

BTW, kad smo već kod El Salvadora. Neki dan sam negdje u bespućima Twittera pročitao da su držali BTC na FTX burzi. Nekako pretpostavljam da je false news ali baš me zanima zna li netko detalje.
2436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 18, 2022, 09:51:06 AM
The result of the match has been determined by Qatar vs Ecuador, in my opinion both countries want to buy and sell attacks, even though Ecuador is everyone's favorite, but we have to be wary of the Qatar host game, because they are playing at home so anything can happen in football so , I hope that Qatar can win its first match in this World Cup..

I have mixed feelings about that first game. I really like Ecuador and therefore I would love to see them win. However, it would be a great boost of confidence for Qatar players and fans if Qatar wins the opening game. We have two more days and I can't wait for the tournament to start. Too bad that the first games in every day are scheduled for the time when I'm at work so I probably won't be able to watch Sad
2437  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 18, 2022, 08:37:29 AM
S neopisivim guštom sam uninstalirao Ledger Live i nadam se da ga više nikada neću vidjeti.
Ledger Live će ti i dalje trebati kad budeš radio nadogradnju firmware-a i ažurirao BTC i druge kripto aplikacije na svom Nano novčaniku. To nažalost mora ići preko Ledger Live aplikacije.Trebao si je ostaviti nek stoji na računaru a Electrum je svakako puno bolja opcija kada govorimo o slanju bitcoina sa Ledgera.

Baš je ludilo ovih dana na bitcoin chainu. Konstantno mempool pokazuje da ima 30.000-40.000 nepotvrđenih transakcija. 

inace, gde god je moguce, ja biram seed od 24 reci
Seed od 24 riječi ti garantuje sigurnost od 256 bita. U engleskom dijelu foruma reče ti 256 bits of security (nekad se govorilo entropy). Seed od 12 riječi ti daje sigurnost od 128 bita. Duplo manja sigurnost ali i dalje dovoljna sigurna da je potrebno nekoliko miliona godina da se provali tačan redosljijed riječi u seedu. Ali ono što je bitno je da je sigurnost bitcoin privatnih ključeva samo 128 bita. Nema veze što ti je seed od 24 riječi ili ako nekad bude 48 kad sigurnost privatnih ključeva ostaje na istom. I ko želi da "napadne" bitcoin može na metu da stavi privatne ključeve a ne seed riječi.

To bi ti bilo kao da na utvrdi imaš zidove i željezna vrata od pola metra gdje nijedna vojska ne može proći ali si zaboravio da imaš veliki prozor koji se može razbiti kamenjem. Naravno, sigurnost privatnih ključeva se ne može porediti sa staklenim prozorom ali dajem samo slikovit primjer.   

Ma ja mislim da ipak malo pretjerujemo sa sigurnošću. Naravno da sigurnosti nikad dovoljno ali prilično sam siguran da bi se pročulo da je neki wallet uspješno provaljen na način da je netko brute force napadom pogodio privatni ključ ili seed phrase. Ne znam kakva je situacija s kvantnim računalima jer je prije bilo govora da ona (kad budu razvijena) mogu bez problema probiti sigurnost kriptovaluta ali mislim da smo za sad mirni. A i vjerujem da će se rješenje probijanja zaštite riješiti dok netko ne razvije kvantno računalo jer će u tom slučaju probijanje zaštite kriptovaluta biti malen djelić problema.
2438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: November 17, 2022, 01:00:12 PM
As expected, after Rijeka's disastrous defeat against Dinamo, 7:2, Rijeka's coach was fired.
It seems to me that this is Rijeka's biggest home defeat in history.
The long-standing wrong club policy and the large sale of players after each season led to this disaster.
Once a big club that always fought for titles in the Croatian league and in Europe often participated in the group stages of European competitions, now it is fighting for survival in the Croatian league.
It's a shame how the club's management destroyed this club with wrong decisions and the president of Miskovic should be the first to leave because he is the most responsible for the current state of the club, not the former coach.

Yeah, too bad for Rijeka. Everyone expected that Cosmi will be let go after the game against Dinamo. I honestly did not expect them to lose 7-2. It's not a matter of the goal-gap, the problem is that Dinamo scored seven times against Rijeka. For someone who doesn't follow Croatian league it wouldn't be that surprising that Dinamo scored that many goals against the club who is sitting near the bottom of the league. But for those who remember Rijeka as the club who is always in one of the first spots of the league, it's surprising. But like you said, the management and their lousy decisions should be the first to leave. Not the coach.
2439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: November 17, 2022, 08:43:19 AM
The Senegal football association are saying that they are going to employ spiritual help on Mane if the injury didn't go on time before the world cup starts. The way it is, the Senegal football association wants Mane to be in Qatar no matter what. There are chances that he will be on the list of their selected players of the world cup. Let's see what unfolds next

I guess they want him in the team no matter what. Whatever they do, I hope he recovers and help his teammates to advance to the next stage of the competition.
With the injury he suffered, be was initially expected to miss the World Cup. But with the proximity of the tournament, which kicks off on Sunday November 20, makes it even more difficult for him to be ready. Honestly I think it is a difficult situation for Sadio Mane because he will have to decide whether to rush back for the World Cup appearance in exchange for compromising his physical health in the final stretch of his career. I think he has joined the team to Qatar but not sure if he’ll be available for their first game.

I'm pretty sure that he won't be ready for the first game. But since the first game is against Netherlands, maybe they will prepare him for the games against Qatar and Ecuador because they probably have better chance to beat those two teams than Netherlands.
2440  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 17, 2022, 08:12:01 AM
Ma još mogu i podnjeti da imaju problema s nekim tokenima ili manje poznatim chainovima, ne bi trebali imati ali ajde. Kada imaju problem s BTCom ili ETHom to he totalno nedopustivo. Imaš itekako prvjerenu infrastrukturu i kod i tu nema mjesta za pogreške.

Sva sreća da imamo dobre 3rd party aplikacije. Electrum je stvarno odličan wallet kada zagrebeš ispod površine, daje ti potpunu spending kontrolu kao i bulk transakcije. Što ga više koristim to sam zadovoljniji s njim. Multisig isto radi dobro i jednostavno ako nekome zatreba.

Možda sad malo ulazimo u off-topic ali si me sad natjerao da prebacim BTC wallet s Ledger Live na Electrum. Kako s BTC walletima imam iskustva možda jednom godišnje kad nešto prebacujem, nemam pojma kako u Electrum importati wallet koji imam u Ledger Live. Kad importam wallet koji mi Electrum po defaultu nudi, tamo imam 0 BTC pa pretpostavljam da trebam promijeniti derivation path. Znaš li možda kako mogu u Ledger Live aplikaciji pronaći derivation path walleta koji imam tamo?

EDIT: Nema veze, uspio sam pronaći pod Advanced.

Mrzim Ledger od prvog dana i vjerojatno sam jedan od rijetkih koji ima nešto značajniji kripto iznos a ne koristi ga.

Kad smo već kod toga - moram priznati da mi ni Electrum baš nije neko oličenje sigurnosti.
Garantiram da nekakvi kineski softveri danonoćno kucaju 12 riječi i vjerojatno je samo pitanje kad će to krenuti biti hakirano.

A koji onda wallet koristiš ako ne Ledger ili Electrum?
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