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2441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Canada include the bitcoin. on: April 10, 2020, 03:05:47 PM
Forgive my cynicism, but I don't count this as "adoption".  Trading these speculative assets is not the same as transacting with actual BTC.  People aren't learning anything about Bitcoin when they're dealing with something more analogous to stocks and shares.
I guess you have a point. Well they did add bitcoin on their official stocks exchange, but the fact that the addition of bitcoin doesnt mean they are learning something about it hence it more goal is to expand the trading above the stocks they are currently doing so.
It is not about the adoption anymore, if a lot of people value a piece rock then maybe they will also add it to their stock list. It is about expanding in along with the trend, a lot of people called it a bubble because of high volatility rate and the price is very unpredictable due to decentralization but guess what, we have bitcoin for a very long time although the price keeps on spiking but the fact that it is not getting low beyond $3K range is what the deciding factor of it to be added in the stocks.

I am not negative about this news, but somehow this can wider the visibility of bitcoin as it will be known on their country. Just do hope those can appreciate it are those outside the trading circle and instead focusing on trading it going to use it like we all want. Natural adoption for bitcoin.
Well you guys sounds so negative with it, let us just be glad that bitcoin is slowly climbing, I hope other country will come up to this too.
2442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time Will tell on: April 10, 2020, 02:03:09 PM
Think of the way governments tries to Establish different regulations and laws on Bitcoin this leads to see the feuture of Bitcoin will be good more than the way we think. Government should not underestimates people's Power and Bitcoin strengthen by It's users
The regulation has already started, these exchanges that we are using is already an evidence that the government is accepting crypto, and more and more regulations will happen in the future, it will not happen right away, just like the adoption we are hoping slowly but we wanted it consistently.
I agree, since the exchanges are paying taxes to the government is already a sign of the government to accept the cryptocurrency to be  flowing any where else. We don't need to worry about this because it isn't the real thing to worry about, if I were asked what to worry with cryptocurrency and bitcoin that would be the centralization process that may end the freedom we have now.

in the future, this market will mature with more regulation and this will be safer than anyone can imagine.
Not quite, good idea. We don't know yet if what will happen, if it will hurt the market now but indeed the regulation is what we needed.
2443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We are only rich on spreadsheets on: April 09, 2020, 07:49:29 PM
This is true. I've participated in a number of them where you get rewarded with big number of tokens but once it's time to exchange them it is worthless. I hodl those tokens hoping that one day something strange will happen.
same as I experienced...
there are about 50 Altcoins that I got from ICO and IEO and until now it's still a shit token, It is a waste of my time and mind, now I am more selective if I want to join the campaign because I do not want to work without pay.
I think we all have the same experienced of earning shitcoins in ICO projects, that is why i already stopped participating in new projects nowadays because i lose thousands of dollars in investing my money and joining signature campaigns in some unsuccessful projects that i assumed it would be profitable to me after the end of the project.
I've been with campaigns my whole life in here and I get used to it. You guys should know it at first that the ICO projects are just proposals waiting to raise funds to get into reality and start at the beginning of their plan, you guys should know before joining that nothing is certain and you may just lose your time waiting and hoping for the stakes you have earn in the spreadsheet. Especially now that projects are not worth joining because the success rate is super low.
2444  Economy / Economics / Re: Corona has killed economy of many businesses on: April 09, 2020, 07:08:51 PM
The coronavirus killed many things.
Literally, and guess what it is killing from at this very moment? my TIME haha. I'm off at work and don't have any time for any thing I want. I am waking up just to eat.

I had a perfect job for a while and even didn't think of crypto for a few months.

Now, as I got "furloughed", I have plenty of time again for everything but money.
Good for you, you have a decent job coz some of people here only think of crypto lol. As the quarantine days is getting too long, I'm starting to plan what good business to build that is unaffected by scenario like this, something that could not be closed due to pandemic, something that I will earn more from disaster like this, something but not mask production.
2445  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Privacy in Bitcoin on: April 08, 2020, 06:54:52 PM
All people can track bitcoin transaction, even if you need to make a transaction anynomously I'll suggest to choose money fiat to do it, I mean using money paper not digital money like in your bank account. There is missconception against bitcoin anynomity. Because in the fact, there are a lot poeple who consider that transaction using bitcoin is can't be tracked by people and it was wrong unless you use bitcoin mixer (although there is many cases where bitcoin mixing service failed to do that).


What you are trying to say is that, bitcoin transaction can be tracked obviously because blockchain adds it up to the chain that can be viewed publicly however the sender and receiver's data is completely anonymous even the place of transaction that has been made is completely unknown. That is why bitcoin is also used for illegal activities like money laundering coz some people found bitcoin doing best at this  thing.
2446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin antifragile? on: April 08, 2020, 06:13:40 PM
We can't say it is anti fragile because its complete decentralization cause the manipulation as well but its the best out of others among what we have.People will realize cryptos are far better than people thought and this covid might helped them to realize that.Maybe in future it will become one and more better than gold, yes for now gold is the safe heaven but bitcoin is profitable now than buying golds.
Is that what you call, antifragile, if people behind decentralized network decided not to sell amidst the threat of coronavirus? I don't think it fits the bitcoin. This is the first time I encounter this term, I conclude
the OP is just too obsess with what is happening right now that he come to think of this term. Well from the meaning of it, it gains from disorder, does not count with bitcoin since it already dumped just before the virus has spread around the world. Aside, bitcoin could be left nothing if people lost their trust with bitcoin, and could just easily jump into another coin after all.
2447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Addresses With 1 BTC Are On The Rise, As Bitcoin Exits Exchanges on: April 08, 2020, 02:19:52 PM
Users withdrawing their Bitcoin from exchanges may either mean they badly need it to convert it to cash or they simply lose interest trading during these hard times. But the rising of the number of addresses with 1 BTC in them tells us that it is more likely the latter. That somehow consoles us and tells us that people are still very much into Bitcoin.
Yeah, more likely people are securing themselves no matter what could happen during these days so they can just spend it or convert it to fiat quicker. Rising number of addresses that has 1btc is a positive
remark that bitcoin is having its strong support, and we can count to them for having the price resistance. If you want to keep your btc on exchanges, please choose a good one, exchanges may close without prior notice due to what is happening that can literally leave you guys with no choice but to wait.

It perhaps even suggests that they are keeping their Bitcoin into more secure wallets rather than leave them unsafe in the hands exchanges.
I don't think that's the reason why some people are withdrawing from exchanges, it is just because the things lately are getting serious and people are fearful.
2448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your Satoshi theory? Deceased or alive & well on: April 07, 2020, 05:19:29 PM
We can't actually tell but there is a possibility that Satoshi is still alive and waiting for the right time to reveal his or their real identity. He or their group is still hiding without any trace, but if he or they doesn't want to actually reveal their identity, we can just let them enjoy their precious life.
We can't really know, I'll stick with what I think his current state right now, he is dead, coz if he really ain't then he should have sold his bitcoin way back 2017. There is a high chance that Hal is Satoshi since he was the first ever to receive a bitcoin after it was created, and I can't contain to myself that if you are the creator of one thing then you should test it on your own, so there's Hal. And I don't think Satoshi would be too clever if he does not know this guy. Perhaps, we don't need that much information for the creator of bitcoin.
2449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Recent Corona Virus Scams on: April 07, 2020, 03:45:35 PM
The most annoying thing about this news is that they are requesting for Bitcoin as payment, it’s very annoying, why don’t they request for payment in fiat and stop ruining Bitcoin for those of us that loves it? Lips sealed. This is really annoying to be sincere, now when they keep doing this it might cause the government and the world to see the cryptocurrency community as a bad one and try to stop it.

These foolish hackers and scammers are really bringing us a bad name, I wish there was a way track down these people and capture them so that they will pay severely for the crimes they have committed.
It's not annoying, it's a smart move from them for choosing an untraceable means of payment. Using fiat as ransom money will just get then in danger and they don't want that thing to happen at any less of the situation so they are with bitcoin. What bothers me is that these people are trying to scam even they know how the life for a normal people in this kind of situation with pandemic and market collapse, It's very cruel on their part, they can't excuse that they are also needy this time. I'm with bitcoin no matter what happens, but if bitcoin will be widely use for this kind of doing over the world then I'm out.
2450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto is fake shit on: April 07, 2020, 03:00:36 PM
Cryptocurrency have made many people panic because with price of bitcoin and altcoin keep going down many people can't trust anymore with bitcoin and altcoin, Many people will move their investment to the other way because bitcoin make many investor poor.

This is a rather strange degree of trust. After all, people who have ceased to trust Bitcoin have ceased to trust it due to the fact that their expectations regarding earnings on cryptocurrencies did not materialize. Bitcoin did not promise them anything, huge earnings were promised to them by other people who urged everyone to buy Bitcoin in a given period of time. However, the cryptocurrency itself or the development team did not say anything like that. People themselves are to blame for their problems with trust.
A very weak mindset came from people whose intention is to be rich as quick as possible, there is nothing for cryptocurrency to prove with fools like them. I don't understand the logic of some people that they are entering the crypto scene just because they heard a profit from it, and without prior knowledge and researches they wanna go in then found out that they are trapped from their own expectations. Actually I like bitcoin more when it is not on the mainstream media or anything stuff that the majority have seen it, I liked it before that there are less toxic people calling out bitcoin.
2451  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW LOW BTC CAN GO? on: April 07, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
Maybe we should and people have to move on. Because thinking about coronavirus will give us a way to think negatively and it affects our mind. In fact, we are already in the good position, $6k plus? I may say it was good enough to think that we are in the way for recovery and might people are also learning not to sell their Bitcoin but rather to hold or even accumulate some from the weak hands. But even the markets some progressive reports, I'm still not seeing it that it goes high within this quarter. It is possible to see huge pumps in the 3rd and 4th quarters as halving result comes out.
It is possible that bitcoin will be in the range of $6000-$8000 this year, but it all depends on this pandemic, we all know that market crashes, wether crypto/stock market it all goes down, people go panic selling, and it resulted to a global crisis, we need a recession and wait for the market to recover. It will take time but it will not go deeper than it is since it has a large wall on it,
Well it's kinda off if we say that the price will depend on the pandemic itself since we have been seeing a quite increase a couple of days ago. The said $6K to $8K range is possible but I guess there will be more of that price, I think there will be more to bitcoin than the price itself maybe after this crisis we'll start to see bitcoin more often in merchants as accredited payment method because this will serve as a lesson learned to all of us.

As for price prediction, I'd say we'll go higher than $8K, maybe at $10K or $12 Highest this year? What you guys think?
2452  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and Crypto Jobs 2020 on: April 07, 2020, 12:45:17 PM
As long as we have not finished with a COVID-19 problem and the repercussions of continuing the lockdown, many companies will not want to contract for long periods with more employees, and the market will be promising for those who want to hire, and therefore the best investment now is to teach yourself more things and thus you can compete in the future.
As for our quarantine duration here, our president decided to extend the quarantine since the cases are still getting higher day by day. The market is still intact but how long it will sustain that phase? this is a crisis and investment is the sure key to survive in the future but how will you survive now? Companies and businesses are closed and with that employees are having no income and just relying on what the company and the government will provide them. Government cannot just print money and give to its people. This will be a lesson for all of us that investment is a treasure in emergencies. Crypto will get bigger in the next few months after the pandemic is cured.

To work in the field of crypto/Blockchain, you do not need a certificate, but to know what to do and thus more training will make you better.
Finally, this crisis highlighted the positive role of online work the extent of confidence in it.
Reputation? I guess it is the vital key you need coz every one can say that they earned a lot through trading or been in the industry for so many years.
2453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would You Rent A Car With Bitcoin? on: April 07, 2020, 11:41:10 AM
I do not have rights for the car, and indeed for any means that require them. But if I had such an opportunity, I would consider it, but at the same time, when paying with cryptocurrencies, I would use it only on condition that I would be entitled to a discount or some bonuses. Cash would be easier for me.
Cash would be a lot easier, indeed. Paying with cryptocurrencies still bother me, it makes me think that I would regret it in a sense that it may go higher than the price I spend it. I can't help to think that way since cryptocurrencies are volatile especially bitcoin but I would be very glad if I found a car rental shop that's accepting bitcoin as payment, it means that the bitcoin is being recognized by the merchants however it might not that be a trend since people are storing bitcoins as an investment and acts a emergency button.
2454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Correlation with Stocks is Dropping on: April 06, 2020, 06:37:56 PM
There may have been some differences between the two crashes:
1. The stock market crashed because many companies were expected to fail under the pressures of the pandemic
Most likely that is the case why the stock plunged because of the covid and businesses closures. Not only today that the stock market plummeted, every one should expect a down from a stock whenever there is a problem, a huge problem that the world is facing and every thing is affected. As the situation is getting hard for us to control, I guess it will continue to flow below the lines.

2. Bitcoin collapsed because some people expected a huge collapse since the stock market lost 5 trillion and bitcoin only lost <100 billion in market cap and had a lot lower market cap to start with... There was also no offered bailout strategy with bitcoin as there was to the stock market - and look how much better it's done already at rebounding...
Well as for bitcoin, I don't see any relation with it to stock market and the most likely scenario for it being down is the fear from its people because of the virus as people are needing money so maybe there is a massive pullout from individuals who own bitcoin.
2455  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and Crypto Jobs 2020 on: April 06, 2020, 05:31:07 PM
This can be an alternative for those developers that don't have actual work while on lockdown if their companies didn't allow them to bring their jobs at home.
Yeah I think it too, unemployed people who are eligible for the position that needs to work from home might be interested on the job offerings especially to those who attend in physical office of their company.
The coronavirus is getting severe so might as well save everything up from working until it is available, we don't know when we are going to find the cure or vaccine on this.

I might check it and forward these links to someone who has the right skill for these openings. I appreciate your compilation.
I wish I have a degree to fulfill my dream job haha.
2456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your Satoshi theory? Deceased or alive & well on: April 06, 2020, 04:48:30 PM
I think he is dead. He was assassinated shortly after he invented the legendary Bitcoin.
He might be dead or deceased but the theory of yours that he has been assassinated after he created the bitcoin is way too off than usual thoughts of others due to his inactivity. People are pretty doubtful of the bitcoin at the very beginning so that could be the very reason why your theory is having a sort of imaginary stuffs. Secondly, the bitcoin wasn't recognized not until it reached its ATH or even when it is climbing up the ladder.

If not why is his almost one million holding still not depleted years after Bitcoin became popular? No one can hodl that long once their token/coin became highly priced. We all know what happened to Litecoin at its peak and how the creator cashed out.
He might died after shortly when he created it, maybe the sole purpose of bitcoin is a remembrance of his life giving us power to have and use it.
2457  Economy / Economics / Re: The pandemic outcome on: April 06, 2020, 02:17:10 PM
At least before this pandemic happens you already have a reserve of savings in the form of cash or assets in crypto to support your life.
Bruh not everyone is capable of saving and preparing in this kind of crisis, poverty has been the broadest and complex problem of all time even the rich people suffer these days are there are limited number of goods to buy in the market. Saving is hard these days or even before as inflation is getting high, products prices does the same too, and saving just keeps getting harded.

This disaster indeed makes all people almost not allowed to leave the house and work as usual, but there are some countries that do a lockdown system but bear all the necessities to survive.
and what must be considered is never to borrow money to overcome this problem, borrowing money will only increase your burden, sources of income can be sought through crypto assets that you own and can trade.
I heard there are some institution that lend their money to the people even without uncertainty of paying it back to them which I find very advantageous of the current situation is, and it sucks.
2458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John McAfee 2020 Prediction on: April 06, 2020, 01:04:01 PM
I won't wait for his prediction because that means I don't do anything than to stay behind my computer. I will use my time to buy and sell bitcoin as much as I can so I can have more and more profit from trading.
anyone is free to believe what they think is true, anyone is free to their stuff in the internet without condemning any laws. If you don't give a crap about anyone who speculates a lot then leave his idea, coz you're not forced to sink it with you. Predictions are merely calculations based on imaginative things and idealization that might or might not happen.

You can follow his prediction, but I remind you that you should have your own analysis to know what you need to do related to the current situations. But perhaps, some people are waiting for his prediction to become true. While they are waiting, they only watch the price up to and down every day.
But for me personall, this person who said that he'll eat his own genital if bitcoin does not reach $500K is pretty much insane. This prediction is gold, not because it is valuable but because everyone will remember it until the end of the world.
2459  Economy / Economics / Re: returning to normal on: April 05, 2020, 05:29:13 PM
There is no way the life will not return to normal, it definitely will return to normal. What we are having trouble right now is the big unemployment that is going on right now and that is probably all around the world.
Everything will go back to normal, it's just that we are facing a consequences right now, just think the problem in that way. if you are seeing a huge unemployment rate right now then that is probably most of companies and businesses are on break, more likely they are off for a month or two.

Not just the small companies who are closing down because they can't make any profit at all and that is why they can't pay rent etc etc, but it is also because huge corporations are laying off thousands of people at a time, many of them have their biggest expense as the people working there so a company that has 200k workers lays off 40k of them will mean millions of dollars tens of millions of dollars actually in a year and right now they don't need it. If we can somehow make those unemployed people find another job as soon as this is over, we will get back to normal in no time.
Trust me we have an enough jobs for people, we are just too populated. Industrialization process are being left behind by the population rate which I can conclude that we are having a shortage of jobs. Companies laying off their workers are just being balance with what they are receiving from the consumers, you can't force a building to stand with 100 people and having a max capacity of 70.
2460  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW LOW BTC CAN GO? on: April 05, 2020, 04:32:12 PM

Well, the world is experiencing a difficult crisis because of the pandemic coronavirus that effects throughout the world. Because of that the market price are go down deeply at 4,000 and up. For me, I think this situation must go longer because the coronavirus is not yet done in spreading it and also there is no cure that is invented for coronavirus nowadays so that it is difficult to predict on how long can last this crisis. So that I didn’t predict on how bitcoin can go low. It is volatile and we don’t now on when the bull run strikes because on the situation now.
I guess this is the time that we should stop blaming the coronavirus since it gets severed over a couple of weeks but the bitcoin has a strong resistance with the current range now. There are tons of speculation about how low it can go during this crisis and how high it can go after the halving, I'll say it go low for about a $4000 and $15000 this year amidst the following world events. Perhaps, we are not seeing the impact of the current events yet that we are still staying too positive with it, hence no one's really sure of what is coming.
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