Again you seem to be missing the point. Intentionally? We both know I cannot prove a non-event, and we both know I cannot prove YOUR intent when you say something. I can prove what you said and when you said it however and others can determine the legitimacy of your assertions. As it stands, you said it, it didn't happen, and your customers are still waiting. That includes any potential customers that were swayed by your inappropriate(MO) claims that BFL had any chance of shipping ASICs in December. Your competition chose not to pursue this course and instead announced a single lengthy delay and took the heat for it. What's that? Is that the sound of your argument deflating that I hear? It sounds like a loud fart. Yes, that's right, you can't prove a negative, but somehow you have no problem asserting that it's undeniably true at every opportunity. You can't have it both ways... either you can prove what you say (which you just admitted you can't) or you lie every time you make the assertion about something being true that you can't prove. Either way, you're a liar... but we already proved that ages ago. Anyone who would buy from BFL at this time deserves to lose their money.
Oh hey, Josh-logic [Warning, disclaimer: This is not a valid argument.]
"Back up your ASIC claims with some facts or they didn't happen."
Guys, please form an orderly queue when cancelling your preorders.
Don't get trampled in the January stampede. Awww elux... I feel sorry for you. You are playing in the big boy sandbox and getting trampled by both sides... you're a cute little fella though. You keep spouting this (along with PL). Too bad wishing for things to be true doesn't actually make them true, though. You know what they say about wishes and horses or something like... Yes you surely put me in my place. Only way you could've topped that performance would've been actually doing something you said you'd do in a timely fashion. Oh wait, I can't argue that you did not in fact "schedule shipments" for October. Dang...burned by those BFLisms once again. The irony is that you've benefited me as well Mr. Z. If you weren't such a...character(edited for Xmas) then I'd have ordered from BFL and I too would be waiting till after all the honest manufacturers shipped for an ASIC product. Also by deceiving so many with your bogus "scheduled shipments" BFLism(scam) you've tied their funds up so they won't be hashing for months, which lowers ROI for those that ordered from your competition. So thank you, I'll go ahead and consider it my Christmas gift from BFL. |
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(Our cancellations from my posting(s) can be counted on one hand. At least, that we know of. I'm sure there are some we don't know of, but the total refund requests we have received are minuscule.).
I am guessing you either don't know how to count or you are using exponents. (Joke intended) The last time you reported cancellations it was first 5, then 6, then 10. Then you stopped reporting the number of cancellations. This was in or around late October. Oops! There you go, lying again! Back up your claim with some facts or it didn't happen. You just can't help yourself can you? You lie more than CreativeX. You were attempting to sell the concept that BFL could still ship in late December(as were others at BFL) as recently as early December, but that was not going to happen even if you had received chips the week of December 11th. And you know this how? Oh, you don't know this, you are just making things up and hoping they are true... ergo, you are also a liar. Again, back up your claim with facts. If you can't, then you are lying. Please prove that if we had received the chips in early December (or December 11th if it please you) that we could not have shipped by the end of December. Go on, lets see you prove it. Yes, I think we're getting to the point that it should be reasonably clear to most rational observers that either your detractors are lying...or you are. Again you seem to be missing the point. Intentionally? We both know I cannot prove a non-event, and we both know I cannot prove YOUR intent when you say something. I can prove what you said and when you said it however and others can determine the legitimacy of your assertions. As it stands, you said it, it didn't happen, and your customers are still waiting. That includes any potential customers that were swayed by your inappropriate(MO) claims that BFL had any chance of shipping ASICs in December. Your competition chose not to pursue this course and instead announced a single lengthy delay and took the heat for it. The deniable BFLisms you routinely spout have a relatively short shelf life and you've been milking them for months as it is. You need some new material bud. |
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Daily dividend paid. I've added some extra hashes from my file server over the last 20ish hours to include a little something extra to say thank you to bASIC-MINING shareholders. *This will not affect the bASIC-MINING balance sheet in any way.   Merry Christmas to all! Edit: Oops...I guess that's not really true as 30% of the bonus went to the growth fund, so the balance sheet was affected, just not in a negative way. |
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I think you miss the point of these threads entirely Josh or you're again playing dumb. This is not about clock buffers, lease agreements, or building permits...it's about credibility. You post things that contradict other BFL reps and then don't explain, or your posts are contradicted by another BFL rep and not explained. You were attempting to sell the concept that BFL could still ship in late December(as were others at BFL) as recently as early December, but that was not going to happen even if you had received chips the week of December 11th. You've attempted to blame a nameless, faceless, voiceless, secret fab for decisions BFL has made...including selecting said fab. All of this combined with BFL's history and the affiliation with the Vleisides should make any reasonable person cautious IMO.
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Generic rounds should be used as SAEs generally have a premium attached to them.
That said this is a poor bet for the OP even if this adjustment is made. Paper silver is a favorite whipping boy of banksters because they don't hold it. This has allowed them to naked short sell(counterfeit) unlimited quantities of paper silver in the past. This time is drawing to a close however as more and more people have become aware of this obvious manipulation and have taken the contrarian approach and buy on dips.
Then there's the problem with the implied gold to silver ratio if silver(real or counterfeit) returns to $10/Ozt. That would imply a GSR of 165.84, when the current is 55.61 and historical ratio is closer to 15:1. Unless of course gold is expected to give back all of it's bull run gains as well. What do we all think? $556.13/Ozt of gold anytime soon? Note the same banksters own huge piles of the yellow stuff.
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The sell orders are from .00589 to .0063. What's the problem?
The problem is currently those visible orders total around 125K, a tenth of the amount on sale indicated by "Total LTC" amount. They probably have a few more millions reserve in LTCs that are not being put up for sale as active orders.  Still don't see the problem. I list assets for sale all the time at rates well above market just in case the market moves into my position while I'm not available to monitor the action. We just passed a period in which LTC mining was significantly more profitable than BTC mining and people are swapping back and forth. |
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Josh I know you're a lot smarter and successful than those you belittle, but is it just possible that the fellas that posted up there ^^ aren't the gullible stupid dummies you're portraying them to be? |
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Survival of the most competent!? Wait, where does that leave Inaba? It obviously leaves me so far ahead of you that you can't even see me flash my ass at you. Of course, that is what the slingshot was for. Your only hope of crossing the finish line!  OWNED! lol |
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I tend to agree. Though I haven't completely bought into the concept of LTC mining full time, I have not nor do I intend to sell off GPU mining equipment until I see how this plays out for this very reason. I find the LTC exchange rate stability over the past few weeks since the halving to be encouraging.
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That most recent batch of photos posted by Inaba should finally shut them all up. You mean the photos that allegedly show work being started(apparently without a permit) to ready a facility for the assembly of BFL ASICs in December that were supposed to be shipped in October November December January? Those photos? Not long ago we were told BFL's operation was going to be conducted at Chris's studio remember? Why must these photos have come out this way? ...after all this controversy? Both BTCFPGA and Avalon voluntarily released photos of their facilities long ago and neither has been working on ASICs as long as BFL has. BFL has collected more pre-order funds than the other ASIC vendors and is still more opaque than the others. There's no way this information is top secret at this point. Avalon has built a countdown clock on their website, and ASICMiner claims to have chips in the QC/packaging process just now. The time for secrecy is over. BFL is likely to be last to ship at this point, the time for excuses and stalling is over. |
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I don't get that you guys were supposed to start shipping in October, but you're just now moving into an office space that is big enough for assembly/shipping/sales in late December... and you haven't even completed construction.
I'm sorry Inaba, but that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I'm not saying you're scamming anybody, but at the very least your business is ran very poorly from the outside looking in.
Yes, that's right. You and all the other speculators don't get it because it's immaterial. People like PG speculate with nothing but conjecture and then pronounce it as doctrine and try to convince everyone that this is the way it is. What you, PG, PL etc... fail to understand is that BFL is not beholden to answering stupid, idiotic questions at every turn. We are not beholden to individuals asking for information that has absolutely no bearing on anything even vaguely related to our products. There is a long string of events that has lead us to where we are now and every single one of them has not been made public. Why you and others think that we should make every single facet of our business public knowledge is beyond incredulous. It's positively insane. You criticize us for not providing information, estimates, documents and disclosure. So we provide that. Then you criticize us when what we've told you turns out to be different in the end because, gasp things change. Situations change. Technology changes. Information changes. What I find most telling, however, is the fact that the most vocal critics are the ones who have never accomplished anything in life. They are on a forum, bitching about how bad BFL is... that is the extent of their contribution to the process. They have never done anything like what we are doing, they will never do anything like what we are doing, but they have the temerity to bitch and whine. So, once again, it begs the question: If you can do better; if you think BFL does it so poorly... why aren't you doing it? Why aren't you showing us how it's done? Why aren't you raking in the dough with your business prowess? Why... are you on a forum, verbally sparring with someone like me? If BFL is so crappy, why does it dwarf all other vendors, combined several times over? Yes, let me hear your answers, PG, CreativeX, Syke, Frizz, et al. Let me hear why you choose not be successful and instead spend your time getting verbally abused by me instead? Merry Christmas Josh.  |
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The sell orders are from .00589 to .0063. What's the problem?
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Wait..people actually mine Litecoin for something other to dump it for Bitcoins?
All you have to do is look at the Litecoin difficulty over a period of a week to figure out what's going on. Difficulty goes up, people stop mining it...difficulty plummets, mining resumes to grab some coins and flip them over to BTC. Rinse and repeat. Umm...you're suggesting that people are mining what's most profitable at any given time? How heinous.  I'm one of those that mines LTC when the difficulty gets re-adjusted lower, but I do not exchange them for BTC. I instead send them directly to my LTC-GLOBAL account. |
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The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me. We finally agree on something.  Well as it happens I've been down with the flu for the last few days... Tom was sick early last week, and we are on opposite coasts!
In any case I wanted to update you all on progress. Since you didn't get your bASICs for Christmas, the least we could do is get you some good news.
Tom has been pushing hard - nothing but riding the engineers to the finish line. We will be in production very soon. I have also seen the stats on a working pre-prod unit!
I hope to have more solid info next week - Tom says we will be in great shape by Jan 1. We are *almost* there folks!
Tom especially wants to extend his thanks to all of you who have stood by us, and to wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=680.0;topicseenIf I thought Tom was going to run off I would've cancelled long ago. I've little doubt you'll still be peddling clock buffer addon fairy tales while both Avalon and BTCFPGA customers are hashing. |
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ROFL! Excellent work! |
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Course not.  BFL reps will continue to deceive pre-order customers for months issuing lie after lie and all will be well as long as their ever angry ego maniacal backpacking ringleader shows up to run people down from time to time. Obviously it is not the policy of BFL to address the glaring discrepancies with their own press releases or this would have been done long ago. The policy seems to be ride it out, produce another "fuzzy" release date every few weeks, and attack those that are outspoken about the inconsistencies. |
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This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions. Correct. Someone just forgot to change the thread title. |
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's been around awhile, just getting some real traffic fairly recently as GLBSE assets have begun to trickle in. It's set up with the same software as litecoinglobal.com.
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A victim has come forward. Which proves I am a scammer. I will do my best to fix his complaint but Imight not be able to. But this is what I say: I am a victim. YOU LIED about the obvious market value of assets for your made-up and proven wrong valuations, no matter what your excuses. I am sorry. I said I was going to add value by marking to model. this is why i didn't mark down BAKEWELL for example. I belived in BAKEWELL, for example. I belived it was worth the IPO price even though bulk buyers who got 10% off sold down at 95% of IPO. I WAS WRONG. I am very sorry and I will process your claim and make sure you get a little extra for your shares, I have a complete list of holders and I have bought about 50 or 100 btc extra to distribute. I just want shateholders to be happy. YOU LIED when you said "there is literally NO WAY CPA can go bankrupt". YOU LIED when you said your funds were collateralized and then you sold them in the wrong order. Selling them in the wrong order was one of the biggest bitcoin scams ever and you can't just pretend it is acceptable. Since you claim this asset will help you repay people, fine, I'll remove my vote. Thank you. Although I am sorry I do not know what you mean. CPA invested 500 bitcoins with Patrick Harnett, 500 with Hashking, and 500 with Imsaguy. No one trusted us so I turned to the community and invested with the biggest deposit takers t the time. I fucked up. It was my fault. I just wasn't good enough to do what was supposed to be done. So I can't tell you what I should have done. I just sholdn't have done it. And as soon as I make reparations to you, and ALL shareholders equally, I will go away. Forever. I am sorry. Please believe me  Even if I can't list on BTCT.CO anyways. huh? Who are you quoting? Threads crossed? |
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Yeah, we're going to have to do something before too long. I don't think there's a limit on the dividends displayed yet. It just displays them all. Mostly cuz of me prolly.  I know there have been days in which I've issued several dividends to LTC-DMF investors and now daily with bASIC-MINING shares. Guess I just figured there were others that felt as I do that it's better to have your funds to do with as you please ASAP. Lemme know if I can render any assistance, no doubt you have your hands full. Yeah, I love your approach. Been thinking about doing it with LTC-GLOBAL myself. An auto-dispersal feature has been on the todo list for a while, which would be a great complimentary feature. I just need to figure out how to handle it in the interface. You really should be able to access ALL of the dividends somehow. Just not all on the initial load. Time to sharpen my ajax skills a bit. That would be very handy indeed. Any way a modifier could be assigned to incoming dividends so that it could automatically dispense a fixed percentage as soon as it was paid to an asset issuer's account?  |
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