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2441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Peer pressure as a substantial gambling catalyst. on: August 19, 2023, 11:06:12 AM
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When you've got enough and you can't take it anymore, it's best to take a short break and even if it takes to be a longer one that's fine. As long as you get the essence of taking a break and your purpose from doing it is to be away for the moment and think of the things that you have to.
Resting means we are trying to calm ourselves from the tension during gambling, and it's good if we can feel we've had enough gambling. And it's also good for evaluating what we get from playing gambling to assess what could happen if we gamble more often. If we can still be aware of the risks of losing money in gambling, we can think about not playing gambling too often.

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The time will have to come that you'll be forced to stop completely and not just because you've realized that it's not doing good for you and it you did too much. But also because that the pressure from your friends is no longer doing you good.
We will be forced to stop when we run out of money in gambling, which is the last choice that will come to us. And we also can't go back to gambling if we don't deposit another amount of money. But most of us will deposit more money to return to gambling because we are still curious.
2442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling by financial dependents. on: August 18, 2023, 10:21:20 PM
Better to prevent than to keep letting him play gambling because we don't know whether he can really be responsible while playing gambling or get out of control during gambling. But usually, at only eighteen years old, he is prone to losing control and getting emotional, so it is better if you advise him to stop gambling. After all, there are still many interesting things that he can do at such a young age, such as doing things that can distract him so that he can gradually reduce his time playing gambling. Usually, this depends on the concern of the people around him, how the parents supervise him, and how close the child is to his parents and other family members. So if he is very close to his parents and other family members, they can start helping him by giving him attention or making him think that it is best to leave gambling before something bad happens.
2443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: August 18, 2023, 10:06:08 PM
Yes mate that's correct you said something that sweeten me too well, you said money gone is gone and that's right, we can't get our lose money from gambling at that same time, if we have to get our lost money yes we need fresh money to get it back and we as still not guaranteed if we will get it back or not, now even if we want to use fresh money to get back our lost money from gambling I don't think it's will be that same time or period, for me I will say going back home and coming back letter is the best idea for it, why because at that time while you have lost big amount of money in gambling you will be so worried to get it back and your brain will be filled up with anguish so you cant concentrate on what you are about to stake no matter your attentiveness.
We might be able to try to get or recover money lost in gambling, but it certainly won't be easy because we can even lose even more money, especially if we can't manage the time to gamble. And if you decide to use more money or deposit more money, it will also not make it easier for you to recover the money because your emotions will increase. In the end, you will lose self-control, resulting in you rushing to place the bet money. It can give bad results for you where you can experience defeat and lose all the money you just deposited. And of course, you will experience sadness because you have lost all the money you have without being able to recover the money. It is a lesson for all those who want to gamble that once self-control is lost, we can gamble without thinking about the remaining money we have.
2444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: August 18, 2023, 09:46:09 PM
Though in some cases it is said in gambling when one is exposed to repeated losses, one has to consider the advice of others with one's own responsibility. I will certainly consider the advice of others but it must be reasonable. I have to consider my own judgment and what is the difference between me and the gambler who has the high wining ratio at that particular time and then I can take that gambler's advice. But I will agree with others that one should not always bet on depending on others. Again, if a bet is lost on the advice of others, one should not get excited or blame anyone.
If a person cannot take the advice of others to stop gambling but instead continues playing, he will accept the risk of losing his money while he will not be able to recover his lost money easily. And he can also lose more money, especially if he can't be wise in placing his bets. One must have his own opinion and not depend on others because that person is responsible for his money. And for his money not to be lost on the gambling table, he must be able to reduce the amount for the bet. And it's true when we bet on other people's suggestions, we can't blame other people because we take their advice. Therefore, it's better for us to bet for ourselves but doesn't expect to make money from gambling and make gambling the main income to make money.
2445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: August 18, 2023, 09:27:51 PM
Is it okay to lend your money in someone who needed it, but the thing is you are entitled to know where could be it went what could be the purpose of their loan and how will they pay you. So that it would not be a problem anymore and it would not make your relationship to that person be broken if something happen, it is your right as a lender to know where it could be use and when it will be sent back.
If they borrow money to buy necessities of life, I will lend it without expecting the money back, especially if he is a person who is truly deprived and finds it difficult to get his daily money. But if he said that he would use his money to gamble, I would say no to him based on how he would pay me the debt if he lost. Even though he insisted that he would win, I still would not lend him the money because it would be difficult for him to repay the loan even if he won. I don't want to wait in uncertainty while he doesn't want to pay off his debt yet and says he wants to double the money to get more. It was something that could not guarantee him winning any time he wanted.
2446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Technology is Changing Sports Betting on: August 18, 2023, 05:30:51 PM
If no one can testify that it's working, then I don't believe a particular AI will increase our chances of winning in gambling. I'm actually quite interested in sports betting AI, but I don't think it could effectively work considering games occur on a daily basis. Knowing AI, I don't think they are that up-to-date. What are the sources of information? I'm sure they're on the web, but in gambling, there's unwritten information that's crucial for our analysis. That alone would already make an AI less effective.
AI existence in gambling have really aides in the easy movement of games. It affects and works for good for those of us that's not ignorant and ready to accept new adaptation. Changes are constructed in betting, which corresponds to the outcome we should expect from the system. Technology is rapidly developing particularly exerts an advantageous effect on sports betting. It is apparent how gamblers can have online access to betting without leaving their residences. Betting conveniently from the comfort of your own home, it is imperative that we understand the fundamentals of gambling
But we may not be able to see AI applications like we want because the developers are still carrying out the development. And until it can be officially launched, we can see what it looks like and how it works. But in our dreams, the use of AI looks like we are giving orders to AI to find data about matches that are about to start, and AI, which with its ability to collect data faster than us and come from valid sources, it can give us more data that we can use to choose a team that has a chance to win. But until then, we can only be patient and wait for the results while keeping abreast of the latest developments from each developer.
2447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: August 18, 2023, 04:59:38 PM
indeed we need to do that and we always pay attention to it, but in my personal opinion, lottery gambling is the easiest type of gambling to control because besides there is a time limit from when we place bets until the lottery results are announced, in this gambling my expenses can be more regular which very different. since I played slot gambling. In slot gambling I can spend 10 dollars in one game, but in lottery gambling I can use the 10 dollars to participate in the lottery several times.
It's okay for people to spend 10 dollars to buy a lottery ticket, even they can do it every week. And because there is a time limit until the lottery results are announced, they can be disciplined about spending the 10 dollars even though they don't know when they can win it. Whether it's worth it or not depends on them because they have their own calculations and have allocated a certain amount of funds to buy the lottery ticket. Apart from that, by buying this routine once a week, they can still hope that one day they will win the jackpot, and this has been proven by several people who are consistent in buying lottery tickets.
2448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: August 18, 2023, 04:32:38 PM
Casinos are specifically designed to make you hooked with the games that they offer. They will get every penny that they can from you and will have no remorse in doing so. They might throw you some bone every now and then, but that bone, they will surely take again and then some. Those who have won huge amounts from casinos and quit are the true winners, and they are very few and far in between.
By throwing the bones, they get them from us and other gamblers who want to get bigger or more bones. But the truth is that very few people get it while others get nothing, but that doesn't stop them from trying it anyway. And I agree that those who can win big amounts from the casino and quit are the real winners because they know that it is time to stop and enjoy the moment of their victory by celebrating it with their friends and family. And it is very rare for a gambler who deposited a small amount of money and could win a large amount without doing KYC because the casino found nothing suspicious.
2449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 18, 2023, 03:44:19 PM
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It is a good idea if we are with some of our closest trusted friends who are also gamblers to form a group or betting group so that they can exchange information and predictive results with each other so that they can make references that can really be used, but the question is whether they want to form groups and exchange information because some people, even though they are close friends, still cover up and don't want anyone else to know the predictive information they have made.
It's actually easy to form a group with several friends and of course it can increase the chances of having a win.
Yes, that's true when one of the groups who are friends themselves gets a win that feels big enough to at least return the capital from other members or you can also celebrate the victory together by inviting them to have fun or just eat together.

I had thought about this kind of thing but from some of the friends I have they tend to be more fond of casino games than sports betting so it's a little difficult to make a betting group together.
If it's a group of close friends, they won't hide their predictions but will share them with other friends so they can all win. And it will be an opportunity for those who can't get much information to place bets because they can trust their friends who give their predictions. The chances of winning may also be higher, especially if their friends can predict better, so the chance of winning that they will get will also be even greater.

That's why we should be able to find friends or friends who can really be people we trust and not betray us. We will walk together, go to the top together, support each other, and the important thing is that we trust each other.
2450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What you will do? on: August 18, 2023, 03:24:18 PM
Change your gambling strategy because you are bored you must know how many bets you will place, for example, or how much money you expect to win or lose in a certain period of time. If you don't set a goal, your chances of winning over an extended period of time are almost zero. The only way to win at gambling is to have goals. It's also essential to set and stick to an effective bankroll management strategy, and don't gamble more than you can afford to lose. Loss chasing is an irrational and dangerous gambling behavior with serious financial and emotional consequences here are some of the main problems that can lead to gambling addiction.
Having a goal means you want to win, even though in gambling if you want a win, it won't guarantee you can get it. We've seen many people who have lost money because they set a goal to win. But if your goal is just to get a win, that still makes sense because you won't be trying to get a win but just to get entertainment from gambling. And having a bankroll setting is also very helpful for dealing with the amount of money that might be lost in gambling so that you won't experience too many losses. But if you try to recover losses, it will still be difficult to do because you have to win in many rounds, and that's why not all or not many people can recover their losses.
2451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A person who won 600k$ in lottery on: August 18, 2023, 03:05:31 PM
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It may also have something to do with the lack of perception some people have when comes to money and the meaningful of it. Let me elaborate:

In our daily life we manage certain amounts of money and we are well aware of what those amounts are supposed to mean. A hamburger can cost 5$, a bottle of water about 0,5$-2$, etc. But then we turn on the TV and we hear about governments doing investments and plans for 1 billion $ or we see on the news on your phones that Apple may sue another company for 20 billion $. We only hear those sums of money and we don't truly know what they represent.

With that mind set, someone who wins the lottery and becomes a millionaire is someone who does not know what their new money is capable of, they may think that they can buy anything they want and go into a spending spree, not realizing that a big house in a developed country may be worth a couple of millions by its own. So they spend and spend without realizing the true magnitude of their wealth, and before they even realize, they have to fill for bankruptcy.
Very true what you say. We will be surprised to see a lot of money in front of us and ready to be used to buy whatever we want. We become more heated in shopping and want to buy all the goods in the shop. But if they realize that it's a blessing for them to make their life better and not waste it buying things they don't need so, they can use the money will be used to improve their life. They have to realize this so that one day, when they can win the lottery, they can use their money well, change their life for the better, and prepare their family's future better too.

And that's also what we must apply if we can be the winner one day. We must have a good plan to use the money and not spend it shopping as we like.
2452  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Is there a site where you can withdraw without deposit? on: August 18, 2023, 02:44:47 PM
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Investing or trading aren't what op is looking for since they require initial investments while he wants to invest nothing and gain something which implies that he is looking for free money basically.
It's hard to use sites to make free money these days, and it's different from a few years ago. That is why I suggest he invest or trade to make money. But of course, they have to have money to start with. But we know that freebitco provides a faucet facility that he can use if he wants to start for free without needing money. But he must realize that playing the faucet really takes time until he can collect a lot of satoshi. He could also try gambling there, but that is not recommended. But that will be up to him.
2453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What resources do you have for members who may be dealing with addiction? on: August 18, 2023, 02:22:47 PM
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I was asking for resources within the forum and not about family discussion. I was also looking for non-profit organizations that provide such services free of charge and are available online. The last option is to contact a professional who can help with the addiction. My understanding is that before visiting a pro there should a screening center or people who can recommend ways to help with this issue.
We can only advise you here to visit your city's nearest rehabilitation center. This international forum consists of people from various countries, so the situation in one country will vary. That's why I advise you to seek local resources and go to them. Contacting the screening center online will not help, especially if the screening center is in a different country than yours.

Instead of having trouble finding such services for free, you can contact a professional in your city directly. And they also won't provide data about how much it costs, maybe only the consulting fee first. Or you can contact people from the same country as you who are also members of this forum. They can advise on a screening center or someone who can recommend ways to help with the problem, as you mean.
2454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Playing Slot Games On Demo/Free mode Vs Live/Paid Mode on: August 18, 2023, 02:06:36 PM
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Well and indeed there is a lot we can do there along with learning the various features provided, but yes, you can only play there without any sensations that we can get like when playing on a real account. That's right, I see a lot of people who are addicted to doing it on a real account, maybe as I said before some of the pleasant sensations they feel indirectly have led them to the addiction phase without realizing it. Basically it is very difficult to recover when someone has entered the stage of gambling addiction, they almost lose their mind and always continue to do it without any restrictions. I think demo accounts are a good option to choose when we don't want to lose a lot of money, but we also have to realize that we won't get any results there either, winning or losing is just a form of adding and subtracting balances and we can only see it. But yes, it will help someone when they don't have good self-control but want to gamble, and a demo account is an option.
The important thing is that they can take care of themselves while they are in the casino. And using the demo mode is also okay and not embarrassing because we just want to experience playing gambling games and have no intention of using real money. Even though we know that the sensation may be less or even non-existent because our fear of becoming addicted to gambling is greater, we still use the demo mode. And for the results, we can't take, that's okay because we don't chase victory and just want to enjoy the gambling game without spending money.

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So, using the demo mode is a way to protect the weak, right? For those who are too afraid to face life's wild, uncertaity? Not the game itself, but the intense battle of wits, the heart-pounding danger, and the high stakes are what gambling is all about. The test drive? That is just a fake field that looks like the real thing.

You say it prevents addiction, but isnt life full of things and situations that are addicting? Its not about running away or hiding behind a fake version; its about facing life's difficulties head-on. If you cant handle the heat, maybe you shouldnt pretend its warm by dancing around the fire. The demo mode is for people who dont want to feel the pain of life and are happy with tepid encounters.
You must see it from a positive perspective and not just take the negative side. As long as it's okay for you to play using the demo mode, you can have fun at the casino, and even the money you use won't run out to play various gambling games. Now if your goal is to win from gambling, you can leave demo mode, choose the live mode and use real money. It's that easy, right? Grin

Everything is a choice and has consequences for you, so it's up to you to decide. It's not about facing life's difficulties, but this is a choice you have to choose. If you choose live mode, it's ok. You choose demo mode, that's fine too. But when you make choices for situations that are different from gambling, you have to look at it from all points of view because that will determine the outcome. And even if you think it's also gambling, that's also okay Grin
2455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: August 18, 2023, 01:42:56 PM
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but of the many things we have talked about here, have you ever thought that an employee or a development team at one of the casinos could make AI for betting or in other words make AI for other income, have you ever thought about this?
TBH, a few days ago I had the thought of whether it is possible if an employee or team in a casino tries to make AI to bet using another account because that person knows the weakness of the system so tries to find other advantages by making AI to bet and get wins that can earn income addition. I think its a little ridiculous but it can happen because sometimes insiders cannot be fully trusted.
I've been thinking about that, and it could happen because if AI can really help them to get another income, maybe they'll try to use it. But they won't use their account but might ask a friend to help them play using a different account so that there are no suspicions from the casino if they win.

Of course, employees can do this, especially if they know there are leaks or weaknesses in the system and use it for their own interests to get money. And if it's related to money, people will be dazzled and use many ways to get it.
2456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: August 18, 2023, 01:17:12 PM
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When reading the TOS of a casino we can find all kind of confusing terms and legal talk that we may not understand, so it is important that if we do not understand something we contact the customer support and we ask for a clarification about what those terms mean.

As it is easy to give a personal interpretation to one rule and then this rule is interpreted by the casino in a completely different manner and we may feel that is unfair when in fact we are the ones in the wrong.
If you don't understand those terms, you can contact the support service, and that's what we have to do to understand the rules written there. And even if you can't understand everything yet, you can stay in the casino until you understand it while gambling there.

Make sure to understand the intention of the casino in providing these regulations. And because of that, there is a support service always ready to help users who have difficulty translating the casino's wishes written in the rules.
2457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What resources do you have for members who may be dealing with addiction? on: August 17, 2023, 09:54:54 PM
You can only get these resources when you tell your problems to those closest to you because they can help you overcome your gambling addiction. This forum assists so that members here realize that there are dangers from excessive gambling, so they must always be careful and vigilant when stopping gambling.

If you want to find resources, you can contact the nearest psychiatrist in your city and tell them about your gambling addiction problem so that the psychiatrist can immediately find the right treatment for you.

Perhaps the initial therapy is to recognize that someone is already addicted to gambling by seeing how often they return to the casino and gamble. From there, they can try to reduce their gambling activities so they don't think about gambling continuously. And also, they must have discipline, self-control, patience, and so on to avoid gambling and only use gambling for fun.
2458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: August 17, 2023, 09:36:30 PM
Blaming casino platforms after one's own reckless choices is the height of irresponsibility. Do people think casinos are charities? No! They're businesses. Before you click on that shiny 'Sign Up' button, those terms and conditions aren't just decorations! They exist for a reason

It's an absolute travesty that people jump in without reading the rules and then cry foul when they face the consequences. Economic principles apply everywhere, even in gambling. Before blaming the house, maybe, just maybe, one should reflect on their own unbridled impulsiveness. If you can't bother to take a few extra minutes to read the T&Cs, then frankly, you shouldn't be anywhere near online gambling!
Indeed required with wagering or not we need read all term of service some gambling platform before sign up account, many gambler forget and skip for reading all term of service and complaint later when their withdrawing problem due need wagering. Its consequence with some gambling platform have been adopt with minimum wagering time for withdrawing fund and we need real carefully what rule of some gambling platform actually with withdrawing fund procedure.

Not only about wagering but also read all term service about KYC required or not and all rule with gambling platform, don't be disappointed later when our fund not available for withdrawing without completed with task required.
That's what we have to do so that we don't break any rules that the casino has written so we can feel calm when playing or when we want to withdraw the winnings. Making sure that we understand the rules clearly will ensure that we won't have any problems. Besides, before we deposit the money, we can also contact the support service to make sure what we know really complies with the rules of the casino.

And if there are still people who have problems after playing gambling, and it's because they don't read the rules, that means it's a mistake on their part. Casinos also can't do anything, but they may be dispensed by doing KYC so the casinos can check it in detail. But if the players don't want to do KYC, they may leave the casino.
2459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What you will do? on: August 17, 2023, 04:52:31 PM
I don't feel bored when I often lose at gambling because I understand that it is the risk of playing gambling. I will just stop playing gambling, close my laptop, and probably go straight to bed if I can, but if not, I might just sit around until I fall asleep.

But if you are bored because you have lost so many times, maybe you are right to take a break from gambling for a while to forget all about gambling. And doing other activities will really help to get rid of that feeling.

But even though I still often lose, I still often gamble Grin

That hasn't stopped me from giving up gambling forever because I enjoy
2460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: August 17, 2023, 04:20:54 PM
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Well that was just a current experience, of course things are very different here, because it enters into many topics that we sometimes discuss here in the forum, one of games in the street, the jargon, the way of behaving, what it takes to the authorities also play, that is something that few of us knew, however, before being authorities they are men, women, who like things, gambling is entertainment, playing for fun, apart from this it is shown that the bets with money are quite exciting, and martingale does not apply here, constant bets apply, but of course constant bets with approximately 4.95USD per shot, it is something that at least seems sufficient to me, in the case of the police Well, for letting the contrabass pass, they give them approximately that and more, so in the case of the police they recover it in less than 24 hours, but in the case of those friends, they recover it the next day with what they cross the border and frontera.

These things are quite relevant, because if this is done here, I know that in other countries if they have enough confidence they can do it without any problem, it is something that can happen, because even though they are doing something that is not completely legal , through the dienrolo they make it legal, and well, in this aspect what seems remarkable to me is that it is only assumed to lose an amount of money per day, which I at least am not capable of assuming, and that is something that Sometimes it's hard, because if I start buying, at least I'm prepared, I have a profession that is a long career, because it's engineering, and I don't earn what he spends, and they are people who haven't really studied nothing, and they earn these enormous sums of money, only with other activities, and with respect to the game of dice, well, it is something that goes into the game and their earnings sometimes increase, but despite everything I see that the self-control they have It's a lot, they don't bet more than they are willing to lose, that's something I admire about them, they don't fall into addiction.
That's why you have to have better self-control than them so that you can stay aware when playing gambling and not be tempted by anything, including promotions from casinos that are very numerous that can make us and them tempted to keep coming back to gambling. Maybe it's not as easy as other people say, but that's what we have to do during gambling, and most people experience bad things after they gamble for the second time because at that moment, there is a desire to stay in gambling. They will try depositing more money to play gambling because they want to recover from previous losses and get wins.

But we must realize that many beginners manage to get wins at the beginning of their gambling, which may be because luck comes at the right time. Or perhaps luck has come to help them win and tempt them by saying I have helped you win. Would you like to come back to gambling again another time? Surely the average person will return to gambling again another time because they are tempted to win again, but most of them will not succeed the second time because they will lose the second game. And this doesn't make them stop for some time but instead try to return to gambling again even though they understand that it will not return the money they have lost.
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