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2441  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 08:22:20 AM
CoinLenders and CoinChat hashes passwords.

CoinLenders also salt passwords.

CoinLenders also hashes your password in your browser with Javascript.

I cannot access your password (unlike what gweedo is claiming) on CoinLenders. I can only access the hash which is useless if it has been salted with a strong hash.

Gweedo is spreading FUD that I don't do this. He is posting a misleading screenshot out of context. I DO hash passwords. I don't salt them for CoinChat, but they are hashed.

As I am tired of saying the same thing again and again, this is now my stock response.
2442  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 08:20:48 AM
It's out of context because I do hash passwords. I said that in that thread. However, you don't include that portion, which makes people think I don't hash passwords (when I do).
2443  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 08:18:01 AM
CoinLenders and CoinChat hashes passwords.

CoinLenders also salt passwords.

CoinLenders also hashes your password in your browser with Javascript.

I cannot access your password (unlike what gweedo is claiming) on CoinLenders. I can only access the hash which is useless if it has been salted with a strong hash.

Gweedo is spreading FUD that I don't do this. He is posting a misleading screenshot out of context. I DO hash passwords. I don't salt them for CoinChat, but they are hashed.

As I am tired of saying the same thing again and again, this is now my stock response.
2444  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 08:17:29 AM
CoinLenders and CoinChat hashes passwords.

CoinLenders also salt passwords.

CoinLenders also hashes your password in your browser with Javascript.

I cannot access your password (unlike what gweedo is claiming) on CoinLenders. I can only access the hash which is useless if it has been salted with a strong hash.

Gweedo is spreading FUD that I don't do this. He is posting a misleading screenshot out of context. I DO hash passwords. I don't salt them for CoinChat, but they are hashed.

As I am tired of saying the same thing again and again, this is now my stock response.
2445  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 08:14:22 AM
That's for coinchat, not CoinLenders. I posted proof that CoinLenders does hash and salt.

In fact check the client JS, it's hashed right in your browser.

Just more FUD from gweedo as usual.
2446  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 08:13:04 AM
Besides, if you ARE using the same password for more than one site / don't use a password manager / etc, you need to fix that.
2447  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 08:12:42 AM
When did images become FUD and untrustworthy? I am not abusing any trust system, apparently he is very sensitive with this. He has extorted me to abuse the trust, he thinks he can hack me, and he just calling me untrustworthy which is slander.

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This is a warning! Don't use these sites, TF can access your password at anytime! And take over your other accounts.

Which is untrue.

Your image shows that I don't salt passwords for CoinChat. I hash passwords with SHA256. So I cannot access your password at any time. That's an outright lie. For other sites I always salt at least.

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No His ratings are red because you are in " DefaultTrust"

That's my point? My ratings show up my default, his doesn't.
2448  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
That's for coinchat, not CoinLenders. I posted proof that CoinLenders does hash and salt.

In fact check the client JS, it's hashed right in your browser.

Just more FUD from gweedo as usual.
2449  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 08:08:49 AM
Why are you guys abusing trust system for no reason?
He's posting FUD (such as claiming that I don't hash or salt), when that's plainly untrue (your password is hashed in your browser for CoinLenders) which is untrustworthy.

That's not very different from false scammer accusations, which would get you a negative trust rating. Go claim John K is a scammer (when it is untrue) and see what your trust score looks like later for example.

Or claim that a web hosting company scammed you when you haven't purchased anything. Intentionally misleading statements are untrustworthy.
2450  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 08:06:07 AM
By hard proof, gweedo means that he wants the full source code and database of CoinLenders. I wonder what legitimate reasons he has for wanting the database? Huh Huh

I've already found vulnerabilities in them. It's simple, provide me with a written & signed contract authorizing penetration testing on your site.

The negative trust rating shows up for everyone by default, your negative trust rating shows up for no one except you. I suggest making a new throwaway and seeing what your profile looks like.
2451  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 08:02:22 AM
VIP can't make red icons. Only moderators and admins are supposed to. Move to a new topic if you want to talk about that.

Just so people know, I've already shown I hash and salt your passwords for CoinLenders (it's actually hashed twice, once at your client and once on the server). gweedo is just spreading FUD.

Also, keep in mind that CoinLenders and Inputs.io are one of the very few Bitcoin sites that handles more than 10k BTC and hasn't been hacked. A lot others have been - some of them I found vulnerabilities in them myself (and reported of course).
2452  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, input.io and coinchat doesn't salt or use a strong hash algo on: July 12, 2013, 07:58:14 AM

So your going to believe him if one of his sites doesn't have for sure, I am 100% none of his sites do. Just a programming hence, I use the same template for all my sites, and 99% of programmers do. So yeah. If you believe him then good for you, but I am not.

Yeah good luck using a Node.js template for PHP Grin

FUD like this is why you have a negative trust rating. I've already shown the source code function for CL.
2453  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:52:39 AM
Yeah, I can see why you want to protect your reputation even through you code vulnerable sites. Tongue

While wanting the full source code and database of coinlenders as proof. Also, my challenge for you to do the red icon still stands (create a new thread, this is about coinlenders).
2454  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:37:34 AM
Please provide me with a written & signed contract to pentest your site and I will post the vulnerabilities.

I don't think anyone will hire you as a programmer anymore after that through.

The icon for this message, which is reserved for moderators and administrators, is just a testament to my web dev & security skills (try doing the same and failing Smiley)
2455  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:33:24 AM
You're the one who spread FUD about me, I'm just doing the same except I'm not making things up unlike you Smiley
2456  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:28:09 AM
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It was just odd to see that as I haven't (though I am limited on my PHP knowledge) ever seen it like that before, lol.

So is gweedo Tongue

@gweedo, do you want me to bring up the critique of your coding skills someone did in the newbie section and pointed out like 8 flaws?

Also, I found a vulnerability on your website in about 2 minutes. Just saying.
2457  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:23:12 AM
== and != means they are equal
=== and !== means they are identical

For ==, if something isn't identical, PHP will try and make them equal by converting in types. For example, by converting the string '00000' into the number zero, and '000000000' into the number zero, which matches.

For your specific example (5+9 != 6+3), PHP will first work out the values of the left hand and right hand side (9) and then compare if 9 is equal in value to 9.

Also, @gweedo if you still think I suck at web development theymos can attain to the fact that I reported a vulnerability that gives me powers reserved by moderators earlier today Smiley
2458  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:20:21 AM

Well this starting to look like pirateat40. If your doing nothing wrong then you should certainly be able to keep your cool and prove me wrong, one function doesn't do that sorry.

What do you think a function showing I am hashing passwords prove with salting?

Anyway, he's just here because he wants to spread FUD about me - but there's tools to defend about that, because spreading FUD is untrustworthy. Smiley
2459  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 12, 2013, 07:18:11 AM

Little off-topic but shouldn't it be

if($password1 != $password2) { //stuff here}

??

Still a newbie at PHP but I learn as I go, :p.

Nah. PHP is a weakly typed language.

According to PHP:

NULL  == false
false == 0

So what's the problem?

echo '000000' == '000'; -- 1 (true)

Which means that if someone types the password 00000000 and 000, == (!=) would say they are equal, but === (!==) would not.
2460  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scotaloo phisher - proof on: July 12, 2013, 07:13:19 AM
I never thought you were whiskers75.
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