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2441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos are really worth it? on: March 21, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
I think its8really risky...
I understand that people do it but... i don't know if giving your coins to a casino is really a great idea.
They can leave anytime with your money and you cant9do much :/
Bitcoin casinos investing is possible today but extremely risky, the best way to invest passively in gambling casinos is by investing in the sites bankroll, some bitcoin gambling sites have house edge, meaning the long run, if you run them correctly they should all be profitable, however in the short run gambling site can take a hit and have to pay for gamblers and this where bankroll comes.

Well that is the main idea of investing in the casino itself, you do not create one or invest in the creation of one. You invest in the already made casino and you put your money against all the gamblers of the casino. House edge is simply that, an edge over the gamblers. It is nice for the investors and the casinos, though if it is too high then no one will gamble at that casino. There must be some sort of balance there.

Investing on house edge is not risky if you choose right site to invest. And here must put your money on well-reputed site and old sites. We have many sites like this to invest. But sometimes our bad luck we will get loss in this investment. It's common in any business. Take a risk and make money. Without taking the risk, we can not do anything. 

Some times risking is like a suicide so better before we risk we should know that the gambling site we invested on is trusted,legit and properly giving the dividends to their investor so that we can assure to gain some profits on said kind of investment. And also it is advisable to not put all what weve got on one site only so that we can have a choices to earn if one of our investment fall down.
2442  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genesis-Mining Review on: March 21, 2017, 09:25:35 PM
New post on Allcloudminers where Genesis Mining is compared to Hashflare cloud mining. All cloud mining contracts are compared with costs, payouts and maintenance fees.

Here is a part of the comparison. It says how many days it takes for the payouts to cover the initial cost for the different cloud mining contracts.

Break even days   Genesis Mining   
SHA 256 Ths   541   
...........

I am confusd here, I bought that SHA256 contract to test he site back in June 2016 - today is MArch 2017
I put just $120 in there to test. To date I hjave earned about $160 back and currently I receive around $1 pr day but there has been some hash upgrades to my plan due to referrals, about 3 or 4 times I received some hash power in total but cannot find out how much this added to my current available plan, so I am confused as to why is this not profitable for many people but it is profitable for me. The bonus hash I received is by no means the size of what I paid for, hence I am not making the profit from referral commission or anythig to that tune.

Someone please advise. Thanks.

Same with me, I bought a small contract on January this year just to try and see if I can make profit out of it. For the moment I still been paid around 10K-11K satoshis a day, but it will take almost 2 years for ROI, which I feel won't happen considering the comments from the senior members here. But I also saw in one of the threads that hashnest is profitable and have better support from admin, so I think I will try it out


10k satoshi a day? Damn i think thats useless profits yo gain on , How much did you invested at them? Since if this case will continue to accumulate on i think it will not be worthy anymore to still keeping investing at them. AND I would suggest to people that stay away to coudminijg service since surely they will not accumulate some good money in their, They are not truly profitable mate remember that.
2443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 21, 2017, 12:42:58 PM
The secret of healthy gambling is to do it responsibly and in an intelligent manner. There are a whole lot of strategies that players use to make gambling profitable. In this article, we will give an insight on how to make gambling profitable...

http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/06/14/turn-gambling-profitable-activity/
To be honest I do not think that it is possible to turn gambling into a profitable something gambling is not mend for the user to be able to win a profit. It is a game it is you versus the casino, so making a activity out of it would not work.
Indeed, its hard to believed on that things. Because if gambling really giving profitable activity I guess majority of the people nowadays are trying to apply in any company instead they do gamble in the gambling sites. But that's the fact happen now, which means it maybe profitable only for the rich people only few of them.

Some of people are earning from gambling by just working as mods,referral earners and lucky pot winner and that made them earning for their gambling activity, But if they just doing some solely gambling i dont think that they can earn more profits in their long time spending on some gambling sites out there since we all know gamblers are always the losers in the end of the game.
2444  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: March 21, 2017, 12:05:14 PM
this is is legit site, but is very hard win btc with faucet Tongue

You can't earn anything with faucet ^^
They're made to... barely earn your first few cents to try things. That's not interesting at all in terms of work/salary
You wont earn anything close to 10$ per day with faucets!!!

Normally from the faucet on FreeBitco.in you can earn from $0.02 to $0.10 per day, but there is a chance to win up to $200 on their free roll, so I visit the site regularly in hope to win $200 or $20.


Yeah earning from free roll would be good but the question is when would be our time to win that? Well maybe for eternity? Does somebody really win for that matters? Well if yes then maybe i would try to used their free features so that i may have a chance to win some huge money from this site. But im also doubting to spend some efforts here since i've already read more bad feedbacks against their lottery and dice fairness.
2445  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: If you have 10 BTC = Approx $10,000, where would you invest for 1% monthly? on: March 21, 2017, 11:36:51 AM
Investing it? Nah don't ever think of it bro since surely you will cry for that lose, just try to find other ofline investment since surely that would be better for you, or if you can't truly resist the bitcoin craze for now well much better if you stock your bitcoins on your hardware wallet and wait for the big rise and surely you can earn some profits for staking some bitcoins.
2446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: March 20, 2017, 02:02:17 PM
If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?
No! I don't agreed that doing gambling in the casino in a long was profitable things. This can't be true, there is no accurate method for us to earn in gambling,  neither prediction in gambling was not precise it too. So better stay away into gambling.
yes it is true that most of the gambling games are depending on our luck but in some gambling formats if you have some experience then you can make show good result. but still we are mostly depending on our luck for making money in gambling.


But whatever result may came out and if we doesn't have any self decipline surely we will be turn loser in the end of the game since gambling is not only relying on luck it needs also a patience and self control so that we cannot be defeated by the gambling operators. And we should learn to be settled to little things since im pretty sure that little profits will turn big if the positive streak will continously occur to us.
2447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: vegascasino.io are they trusted? on: March 20, 2017, 01:09:27 PM
They offer 100% welcome bonus with your first deposit. Anyone played there or scam site?
Yes they offer and many other casino also offer 100% deposit bonus but you need to meet the wagering requirement before you can withdraw your winnings or even your deposited amount. Vegascasino is not quite well known to me but there are many others casino like fortunejack and duckdice who have more than 100% first deposit bonus.

do they require id proofs to withdraw funds? I've seen it on setting that they verify account with id proofs.
If you have seen that in setting than they may ask for your personal documents anytime in the name of investigation. So if you don't like to share your personal information than better not deposit anything there.

Some times its fair for a site to ask some private information if you won their jackpot prize since i think this is their standard law implemented so that they would be know if  the site is legit and doesn't got an shaddy activities beaneat on them. And if the site will ask you for identity for little money withdrawal well might better if we just leave them so that we will not be shaken up on them if we leave our info's out here.
2448  Economy / Securities / Re: Any Safe 1.5% Monthly? on: March 20, 2017, 12:31:56 PM
To invest money on something, consider safety first then talk about the return of investment. All investors only need profit when they invest on something, they don't care about the development of the company that they invest for. They just want their money grow. Choose the type of investment that definitely profit, even a small but regularly. Don't choose investment that offer too high return that seems too good to be true.

If investments do offer high returns then you should really think twice before putting up money on that site since these kind of offerings just do only exist on most scams do we know online but speaking on this investment which is 1.5% annual I could say it's really small to consider and wouldn't really attract possible investors.

Actually big offers means scam to me and i'm totally out of that offers since i know it is only a bait for us to invest, and 1.5% is so little and surely those who run that are only running a ponzi scheme since surely they can  sustain there business if they give such low ROI like that and for us to be safe well its truly better if we just put our money on banks since im very sure that we can earn at them rather than investing at unsure business out there.
Talking about investment i would definitely choose bank rather than on this one because 1.5% annual is achievable on time deposits on banks since in my place i do recieve 1.2% monthly which is really better and as you said there are still scams out there who runs on small profits but behind on that they are just ponzi schemes.


Bank would be the safest for us to stock our money and surely we cannot be deceived by them since they've got an insurance policy to their investors.

And i wouldn't suggest to invest on other online investment sites out here since surely 99.9% of them are scam and nothing else more than i can enumarate them. And much better to think of physical investment since im pretty sure that we wouod be rather safe on this since we are the one who's entitled to manage to gain some profits on our investments.
2449  Economy / Speculation / Re: What could make bitcoins price go up again? on: March 20, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
It did happen because of the politics and some bastards starts to create their own coin and wants to put bitcoin under them. And the only thing that will make the price of bitcoin go up again is to get those people back to buy a lot of coins again and get back to bitcoin or attract some new investors to buy more bitcoins,
the community needed to help to attract more new investors for the price to uprise again, after those debates and some speculation which hurting the current price we must focus on how to attract more people to get engage and start their journey to this wonderful investment, its all about us who believes to help the system.

Yes it's our task to do so and with the price of bitcoin right now, it is still attractive and for sure for the next months we'll see the price to be back again. That's why we just need to do the usual way of promoting and helping the adoption of bitcoins. And also the bitcoin gambling industry is a big help for making the adoption happen for getting more investors and users.

We cannot tell on what is the exact date for bitcoin to regain its price since bitcoins movement is unpredictable at all, And for now to rise its awareness i think the best thing for us to do is to hold still and let those people who near to us knows about bitcoins so that it will spread little by little untill the awareness will go wider. And although it is hard to do but we should do some hardworks for it so that the demand will rise and the chain reaction for that is surely the price up.
2450  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Humans of TOR - Earn 0.01 BTC for Telling Your Deep Web Story on: March 20, 2017, 10:26:52 AM
Humans of TOR (https://humansoftor.com) shares stories from average people about their experiences on the deep web ..

If you have ever used the deep web, you can earn 0.01 btc by posting your story - and if it is good enough to be published, you will be paid for it!

visit https://humansoftor.com

incredible and shocking - often disturbing - stories from the darknet!

What kind of Story do you prefer?is it checked by you?

Your deepweeb experienced its stated in their bro and surely their are so many people would write some false/untrue stories out there since their are available deepweb groups where they can get some ideas from different people who tried to dive their, but anyways i will try to check if there are available stories in their since deepweb got so many interesting things that we cannot see on surface web.
2451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are dice sites reliable? on: March 19, 2017, 02:41:15 PM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!

That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out.
It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down.

Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this...

I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos.

i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games.


I'm bit worried to play on new site since they doesnt got any reputation to hold our money or running a gambling site and im very vigilant on these since there are many scam site who pretend to be good while in reality they are just a scam and running a site without a proper fairness beneath on them. Thats why i mostly go also to those big sites who already tested by majority so that i would not cry later on and file some scam accusation on those scamtards people.
2452  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: March 19, 2017, 02:04:04 PM
I was actually thinking selling my btc around 1230s.
But I then remembered I am long in it and didnt sell.
Now I feel bit sad. I am still at good position, no money lost but could be good for me just more btc in 3 days.

If you want to benefit from Bitcoin's volatile nature, then do this > 80% of your coins for long term holding purposes > 20% of your coins for short term purposes, as that will allow you to cash out and buy back. It would help you in taking advantage from current situation, where the result will be that you increase the number of coins that you have. Never force yourself to stick to just one thing, when you can do two things at the same time without any problems.

That would be nice to do since we can play by its flactuation if we do buy and sell our 20% bitcoins for now since the price of it is pretty flactuating frequently and that can make bitcoins profitable to exchange for now. And i believe also that hodling will be good since bitcoins has been tested for standing up again after its down state so we should wait for this one so that our profits for long term with this will getting more bigger on future.
2453  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: March 19, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
hi is it lottery of FreeBitco.in legit or scam

me i think not legit

Why do you said that it is not legit? Many people already start up with this thing as i know, because this is the oldest faucet site ever and they never have any problem with provably fair thing. All they need is to give you guys good amount of faucet to be claimed. They give free money and you said that it is not legit?

I think you didn't read the OP post clearly because OP is talking about their lottery system and not the faucet amount. Everyone knows that they are legit in paying faucet amount on time but no one knows about the process of picking the lottery winner, and that's why OP is asking the question. I too feel that they are not legit only in this lottery portion unless they tell us the process and we can verify it.

It's long time debated here and OP doesn't clarifies yet on how they pick the winner on their lottery thats why many people got confused and feel that they are not legit for operating that feature so if both of you doubting for their lottery result well might better if we just avoid it since surely we will get more annoyed if we still don't like the result when the loterry will roll unto them.

Indeed, it will always be a debatable topic as some people may support freebitcoin and some others may judge freebitcoin because of the lottery system. The best for users who doubt about the lottery "dont play it with your money, play it for free only".

Thats why dev should give some proper clarification to this issue so that they will not be bash by their critics. And i think those people who supports freebitco.in is those people who got a benifits thru the faucet referrals and not in gambling itself so let them do that since we are on free world but as we've discussed here they should fix and tell more info about on how is their lottery works and select those lucky winners.
2454  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - CONGRATULATIONS TO WONTON FOR WINNING 300BTC on: March 19, 2017, 08:15:16 AM
Yeah that 200 btc was definitely one of the biggest bets I've seen recently. It is a shame for him that it was a losing bet though. Would have been nice to see that one hit a win.
I don't have that kind of amount but if I'll be in the situation that I feel I can afford to lose that why not, I think that guy can really afford what he lost or he is just a crazy gambler. Damn, I could not even imagine if I bet that big amount now coming from loan or a proceed of my property, I am just not that big risk taker although I love to take bigger risk, not my range in short.

Ops I think i will be crazy if I lose that amount and feel bad for him really since he lost such huge of money for instant in that situation. And surely the people who bet that. And i can't imagine on what he's thinking for placing such huge amount of money and it is not advisable to do continously since he might gonna torned him out if his bankroll and he's pocket will be emptied.
2455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: New Coin ICO on: March 19, 2017, 07:15:41 AM
What is the best place to start a ICO?    If there is a ICO running now somewhere I can see?
Thanks


Altcoins  Announcement section and that would be the best place for you to see on who's new ICO is running. Or if you have plan to open up an ICO for your coins well you should post them up there since as you can see or try to visit there dev owners are placing there ANN and many people are visiting them frequently in there but you should make sure that you will post a right thing with truthfull words inside on it.

2456  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to get twitter followers for free ? on: March 19, 2017, 06:01:16 AM
To get more follower you must do this one.

1. Buy some followers for those seller that can provide massive twitter followers
2. Use Bot that can generate you some followers(I don't know if they are real or fake)
3. You Manually Do it and click Follow and Follow those target users and wait for their followback(This will get you a real Follower)
4. Wait for a Miracle.

Choose on given Option what i've stated above and maybe some of them will be working but you should consider that their would be some fake followers that will follow you and you must avoid it since it will be seen on twitteraudit and twitter campaigns managers will surely disallow you to join if they will found out that you've got some fake followers in your account.
2457  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: They do bitcoin trading? on: March 18, 2017, 10:54:02 AM
Hi,

Anyone knows what this group does?
They definitely do something with Bitcoins but I don't know how they do it.

http://bgmnet.com

Comment please.

PS: how do u guys make the subject font bold?

Do they have a proof that they truly trading that? well if not surely its another scam scheme and tellin that they are trading to gain some profits just like what cloudmining sites do they pretend that they do that while in reality they are just sitting with a cup of coffee and waiting for the big fish to invest and turns scam immediately so you'd better think deeply for it so that you will not fall for their appealing trap.
2458  Economy / Speculation / Re: It going to hurt..! drop back under 1000$ on: March 17, 2017, 11:56:55 PM
It looks like Bitcoin could be headed back to under $1000. Good time to buy if it drops that low. However, we don't really know where the bottom is, maybe $900.


Regarding to the topic if the price goes down it should not hurt us. We have seen huge income in btc even if the price goes down we have the confident again the price will raise which is why lot of people of joining into the btc world. if the price goes down then buy the coins so you can sell when the price is high.


It could hurt us if this downfall will continue since the bad rally is continously occur unto it but for now lets hope that this bad flactuation is for temporary only and let see if this scenario will stop and pump again. But as i've see.i don't have any point that bitcoins will get a positive rally since im pretty sure that people for now are monitoring it frequently and some of them are shaking since they dont want to lose a profits if the price of bitcoins will retains to its negative state.
2459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: March 17, 2017, 11:16:22 PM
I just realize now that why should I gamble if I have no more problem in money so there is no more reason to bet because we know that the primary reason why we play gamble game is to multiply our money.
I agree on the above posted, even we don't have problem in money we should learn how to spend it wisely, imagine those people who doesn't have enough money and struggling on their jobs to provide their needs.
Your correct if you woudn't mind about money why people keep on gambling because they know the fun playing it when im rich i still do gambling for fun and i will still control my self the reason why is this is the best way to relief your stress from your hard work make some time for sure self playing card games.

Mainly gambling is being played by many rich people, they gamble because not to make money, but for enjoyment and replenishment from the stress. They won't bother for big losses, their attitude is winning from the others who are at the same level.

and this is the reason for the other people which is not rich to trying to playing gambling and they just expecting that they can win big money from gambling. but they doing with hard until they just loss all of their money and they got broke quickly because they are not realize, in gambling there is a big risk that we should know.

I think people who gamble knows gambling is risky already and for the fact that they are betting frequently surely they know that they've got a high chance to lose some money in there. But anyways little or big gamblers are the same but big gamblers have great advantages since they can expand their bankroll and they can just forget their losses since they have a lot of money.

And just think for this eventhough not all rich gambles but still surely they are risking their money for different things.

2460  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: March 17, 2017, 10:40:50 PM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me
If you want to try the actual practice of doing trade in the exchange, first you must have an account which you are going to do some trade in the exchange sites. like in bittrex.com, poloniex.com, c-cex and others. Smiley

Having account is mandatory but before getting into trading sites I think he should spend some time on watching videos related to trading there are many videos for beginners on youtube which will give him clear idea of how trading works.

Videos can help them out but there are some people hard to understands it on their actual trade encounters and in addition to newbies learnings they should seek a veteran nor knowledgable guy who can help them to sort on what is the new thrend coin,what to avoid and what is the most common effect of bad trades and lastly the difference of short trade and long trades.

If the person familiarized that surely they will became an expert traders someday and i think they will also learn on how to pump a coin if they will became a pro.
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