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2441  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Experience of using a cryptorobot on: May 22, 2022, 08:58:21 PM
I also tried using it before and it didn't work for me. That's why we're advised to learn everything about trading so we can do it ourselves. Yes, manual trading is more ideal and effective than trading bots because we could decide what to do on our own than relying on automated bets. Trading bots are too risky and as much as possible, we should get rid of them.
Although it is a robot, but the settings remain manual and are done by ourselves. So relying on robots for trading is not very effective, if it lacks technical basis and fundametal analysis. In fact, I have been invited to work together to set up roboot trading, this is because I understand a little about the technical analysis applied to execution orders in roboot trading. But so far I am still not interested in using trading robots. I believe more if I do independent technical analysis.
2442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 22, 2022, 08:10:28 PM
If Manchester City wins the championship and wins the trophy, the pointer for Liverpool will only turn to the UCL final. If they lose to Real Madrid in the UCL final, this will be a season that Liverpool will remember for many years. But if they beat Real Madrid and win the UCL cup then they will make up for the Premier league second place.
Of course every history of the Club will always be remembered by the fans. Statistics will always be recorded and will be history that will not be forgotten. So far I think Liverpool have a chance to win the UCL as long as the game is not over. Although actually I support Madrid more to win the UCL title this season. There were still seven days left, now was their last week of competing in the Domestic League.
2443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 22, 2022, 06:26:22 PM
Extending Mbappe's contract with PSG is a very good decision. 

~snip~
Even though I expected Mbappe to move to Madrid. I heard rumors that Mbappe had special rights after extending his contract. But with the news of PSG extending Mbappe's contract, all that is only hope for next season. Actually if Mbaape came it would be a long term investment to replace Benzema. Madrid is certainly disappointed that expecting players from the Madrid academy is not enough to be able to compete next season. That's because the age of the Madrid players are currently getting old.
2444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Does Luna( Terra) worth to invest? on: May 22, 2022, 05:21:14 PM
Don't expect much from Do Kwon. Even they seemed to have put forward Hardfrok Luna's proposal. The old Luna will become the classic Luna and the new Luna appears. The failure of the Luna algorithm and UST strategy should have been detected from the beginning by the Team.  The expansion and contraction of Luna and terra that were not traced caused the fall of UST so that Luna Supply became very much. With the total supply in circulation I think 1$ is impossible. Although I know anything can happen.
2445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 21, 2022, 08:06:49 PM
One match of the EPL title decider.
Man City vs Aston Villa
Liverpool vs Wolves
Statistically, Man City and Liverpool will win. But sometimes there are surprising match results. Maybe It's Liverpool who will be a bit heavier because Wolves are pretty good and are in the top 10 of the league class. They are also preparing for the Champions League. So Man City seem to have less pressure than Liverpool. But honestly I prefer Man City to win the EPL this season. They will win against Aston Villa.
2446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 21, 2022, 07:33:15 PM
I think it's different, Madrid looks to be playing safe and not as aggressive as usual. I don't think it's pressure from Betis. Madrid tried to maintain performance and play calm so as not to experience defeat ahead of the UCL final.
Regarding the mentality of the Madrid players, I believe there is no need to doubt it. they have it all, and will continue to play their best.
ended the season with a draw, I don't think it's bad. they are still champions.
Naturally, it's the right of all clubs to want how they perform. All clubs want to win but sometimes there is one factor that matters. This is the reason Madrid only draw.
I think Anceloti has got the league title, he doesn't want to risk his best players. It's different if the league still hasn't found a title like the EPL this season. This I've guessed from the beginning Real Madrid have ensured the La Liga champions the rest of the game they will only go through without forcing the best players to perform.
2447  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another warning for every NEWBIE! on: May 21, 2022, 05:00:48 PM
A lot of advice for beginners is written. But I think beginners are quite difficult to do that. In addition, practice will be more difficult than reading. Because the state of the market is very different from the conditions when you understand the theory about beginners. One problem is especially for greed, I am sometimes a little wrong to leave the market because of greed. This greedy nature seems to have been carried from birth and it is difficult to control it. A person must continue to practice discipline with the plan he plans to avoid regret.
2448  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what is the best investment for the next halving? on: May 21, 2022, 03:47:30 PM
If you are a beginner, then you definitely should not invest based on someone else's recommendations. You are now at such a young age that you have enough time to start studying cryptocurrency, and to understand its advantages and disadvantages. And it is possible that by the next halving you will be able to independently make decisions about which coin you need to invest in.
At a fairly young age, it's lucky you know crypto. I think if he's a beginner then he's still quite a lot of time to learn. In my opinion, of course, BTC, BNB and ETH are the most powerful coins at the moment. I think it's the best option, maybe some new chain like Polygon, which definitely has real uses and has a pretty big fan base with a good history it's a little promising for you to hold on to long term. But that's in my opinion, and not advice for your investments. In addition, I also hope that confidence in Halving is still a guide and the market will change Bulish and reach a new high price followed by all coins. May that cycle continue to repeat itself and continue for the next halving period.
2449  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: May 20, 2022, 06:48:51 PM
Sebaiknya gunakan lebih dari 2 platform bahkan kalau perlu ditambah dengan platform diluar crypto yang indikatornya lebih mudah dianalisa.
Untuk trading harian saya menggunakan 3 platform ; Indodax, coinbase dengan Metatrader ver 4 .
Indodax adalah platform crypto, coinbase juga platform crypto tetapi  Metatrader bukan  platform crypto , Metatrader (MT4) adalah platform untuk FOREX
Kita urai satu persatu ya, yang dimaksud dengan ''indikatornya lebih mudah dianalisa'' bagaimana jelasin dong biar temen-temen yang lain tau? apa menggunakan MT4 yang untuk Forex itu atau bagaimana?
Untuk indodax atau coinbase saya pikir temen-temen sudah banyak yang tau klo itu platform crypto, keculi MT4 itu mungkin sebagian yang tau. karena disini pembahasannya Crypto bukan forex jadi maklum klo ada yg belum tau MT4.


namun karena sekarang asset crypto sudah diperdagangkan  di dalam FOREX , maka  hal ini saya lakukan.
Mengapa ini perlu dilakukan ? ... karena masing2 platform punya kekurangan dan kelebihan pada indikator yang dimiliki.

Pengalaman saya secara umum semua platform memiliki indikator " Moving Average " , tetapi kalau dijalankan secara bersamaan diwaktu yang sama pada time-frame M1 akan terlihat jelas pergerakan yang memberikan sinyal berbeda*.

Disinilah sedikit perbedaan yang saya lakukan saat melakukan teknikal "Buy" atau "Sell" , pada MT4 saya bisa mengkombinasi 4 indikator dalam satu masa pergerakan ( MACD, Stochastic, Peak, Bolinger ). Saya hanya akan melakukan "action" disaat  semua indikator pada ketiga platform saya menunjukan titik pergerakan yang sama, saya sering menyebutnya " Gold Moment " ( Waktunya Dapat Emas ).

~snip~
Mana bisa sebuah indikator A misalnya jika diterapkan di dua market berbeda bisa memiliki kekurangan dan kelebihan masing-masing, itu bukan Indikatornya yang memiliki kekurangan atau kelebihan di dua market berbeda. karena sejatinya Indikator itu dibuat oleh pembuatnya itu dengan coding yang sama. kalo anda membandingkan antara market yang anda sebut diatas antara Indodax dan Coinbase dengan kolaborasi MT4 nya kamu, ya jelas berbeda bro.
Bagaimana tidak di Indodax pair BTC/IDR sedangkan di Coinbase BTC/USD dari situ sudah kelihatan jelas ada pebedaan kasta antara IDR dengan USD.
sedangkan Moving Average yang anda maksud berbeda itu karena perdagangan crypto antara pair IDR dengan pair USD itu memiliki Volume Trade yang berbeda jadi jangan heran kalo itu bisa berbeda, dan perlu anda ketahui perbedaanya itu  bukan karena MT4 yang anda gembar-gembor kan itu. kayak sales MT4 aja broo.

Kalo anda bisa mengkombinasikan 4 Indikator di dalam satu masa pergerakan di MT4 nya anda, saya malah bisa pake 15 Indikator di tampilan chart saya. tanpa harus download MT4

berikut contohnya: Pair USDT dan Pair IDR sudah jelas berbeda sama-sama TF 1Menit.


Btw udah berapa lama trading di Crypto?
2450  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bear market every team will pump their own coin on: May 19, 2022, 07:31:34 PM
a common practice when a bear market comes, to keep prices stable. But this practice is not done manually, because they use the help of bots to create buy and sell orders so that the market looks active and prices are more stable. I often find coins with bots like this, the buy and sell orders that we do will be difficult to execute because the bot can read them.
but to pump higher prices, of course, the coin dev will not do it directly, there will be steps to be taken.
2451  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another warning for every NEWBIE! on: May 19, 2022, 07:08:24 PM
this is a reminder for everyone, not just newbies.
If in a state of urgency someone will definitely do the unexpected. Using savings, borrowing money for investment, of course it has a high risk, because there will be a return that is deposited and the savings that have been collected will be used. If it is forced, then you must be absolutely sure that you can return what has been borrowed.
Last but not least, don't be greedy, of course this is the nature of all human beings, just how can you maintain your psychology well, if you're already profitable, don't expect too much.
2452  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 19, 2022, 06:05:35 PM
Terkait pemberitaan penjualan 80,000 BTC itu menurut saya sudah menjadi bumbu untuk menekan harga sampai ke batasan terendahnya Bearish Longterm, karena pemberitaan tersebut adanya sekitar pertengah bulan ini sedangkan konfirmasinya Bearish Longterm yang saya sebutkan mulai sejak awal bulan. so gak usah kaget apabila ada bad news lagi toh ini masih di posisi bearish longterm. Next Mungkin saya infokan lagi di Thread ini apabila sudah memasuki fase Bullish Longterm.
Mungkin perlu saya ingatkan juga disini pertanggal 1 Mei 2022 Harga Bitcoin sudah memasuki fase Bearish Longtrerm 4/4, seperti yang saya sebutkan di diskusi sebelumnya bahwa Bearish Longtrerm 4/4 itu sendiri terjadinya relatif yang mana terkadang mengalami penurunan terus menerus sampai batasannya dan terkadang cenderung stagnan namun memiliki durasi waktu yang berkepanjangan bisa satu bulan s/d beberapa bulan sampai setiap fasenya kembali lagi ke jalur Bullish Longterm.


Ya, karena sepertinya masih ada kemungkinan market crash ke suport berikutnya, seperti yang dikatakan Om @AakZaki.
Ada suport terakhir area $26.7k jika tembus lagi area $22k.  Untuk saat ini saya lihat TF 1D pasar mencoba bertahan diatas harga $28k.
Kita kembali ke teknik jika melihat di TF 1Week ada support yang menonjol di 29290$ - 28805$ saya pikir disitu support terdekat terakhinya, namun apabila masih juga di lewati maybe 25100$ is coming soon dan apabila masih offside terakhir Maping Rate saya Buy2 22680$. wait n see...


Sedangkan kalo melihat BTC/BUSD bukan di 26700$ lagi, tapi di 24500$. dengan begitu 25100$ yang pernah saya sebutkan itu juga sudah pernah dilewati. dibawah ini saya coba open chart lagi namun yang ini saya akan mengatakan lebih ke jangka menengahnya. karena apabila fase Bearish Longterm ini terjadinya hanya sebulan maka perhari ini sampai 11 Hari kedepan ini adalah penghujung dari pada bearish longterm tersebut.


Chart ini saya ambil pair USDT saja yang mana Support terendah nya sekitar 26700$ di penghujung bulan Mei ini jika harga tidak lebih rendah dari support tersebut kemungkinan untuk naik sudah ada saat chart ini di ambil, harga berada di 30122$ dan tadi sempat menyentuh Fibo terendah sementara, seperti yang saya ambil ini di fibo 0.236. next time apabila harga tersebut di tembus lagi next target ke fibo berikutnya fibo 0.382 - 0.5 kira-kira di dua lingkaran kuning itu. saya akan coba lock lingkaran tersebut agar tidak tergeser dan next time saya coba perlihatkan lagi disini.

Untuk saat ini saya lebih ke arah naik, mengingat beberapa indikator dan tool yang saya gunakan memberitahu saya seperti itu. Namun Perlu di INGAT ini bukan ajakan untuk membeli ini hanya sebatas analisa pribadi saya. kurang lebihnya mohon di maafkeun... #SalamWeDeWTeroos
2453  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin can save your life wherever you are on: May 19, 2022, 04:12:10 PM
Relating this to real life experience when a friend accidentally hits another car with his car ,causing damages to the person's car and physical bruises to the person ,he was been held captive and asked to repair the damages car he hit and treat the person as well by paying for the hospital bills ,he didnt have any physical cash and even had an empty bank account.after been pressured and threatened with the law enforcement which will make him face the law and spend some time as punishment for his carelessness, he was saved by is crypto account which he had some few balance is his wallet ,he had to convert the crypto into cash to save himself from the menace. The matter was cowled from escalating into a serious one ,when he payed for the car repair and hospital bill, rather than facing the law ,being fined ,still paying for the car damages and the hospital bills .the crypto balance saved him.
that's just a small sample. When your friend doesn't have FIAT in an emergency situation, of course it will be a problem. and then remembered the crypto account he had. But why does he only keep it in crypto, is it for long-term investment or has he not made any disbursement yet.
It's better to have some liquidated into Fiat and some in crypto, so as not to interfere with the investment being made.
2454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's all about HODLing on: May 19, 2022, 01:01:04 PM
Not just temptations but real-life situations that you have to overcome and choose.

I've promised myself when I'm a newbie until I've realized and learned the market that I'll hold as many as I can. But it's a difficult thing because I have to sell not because I want to but because I needed to.

~snip~
Sometimes it's a problem like this that we can't avoid. Maybe you need to allocate your funds in several places. For example, basic needs, sudden needs, and crypto. So if one day you need suddenly then you have another reserve fund. So you don't have to take your crypto deposits. But indeed everyone has a different technique, if it is forced then I will also take my crypto deposits. So actually trading and holding it will be quieter if you use free funds instead of household needs.
2455  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Kesalahan Umum Trading Aset Crypto on: May 18, 2022, 09:20:12 PM
Kenapa ada crypto di forex?,

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Sebelumnya pernah tau gak bahwah Crypto juga pernah ada di Binomtod, yang mana itu hanya bagian data market saja yang di ambil sedangkan untuk perdagangannya sangat berbeda termasuk di forex itu sendiri. jika di sejajarkan antara forex dan trading crypto itu lebih ke trading future sama-sama ada Batas Liquidasinya. sedangkan jika di sejajarkan dengan trading spot crypto sangat jauh berbeda karena forex jika di beli tidak memiliki underlying.
2456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a safe haven??? on: May 18, 2022, 06:02:49 PM
everyone knows the price of bitcoin is unstable, the question of bitcoin a safe place is wrong, if you want a safe place, just choose usdt because the price is stable if you choose bitcoin for assets, the risk is high, you may lose, you can become a billionaire, but advice If you want to invest in the long term, it is very appropriate if you choose bitcoin.
All investments have risks, but I think so far the safe investment is on gold or land.  The consensus of the world community and the government has recognized that. If comparing with Bitcoin is certainly very different, their consensus is only agreed by a few people, even the government is still in the research stage. This means that Bitcoin is still limited to certain circles, although today's developments they are very good. Whether for the future, so far post halving indeed bitcoin always touches a new high price. It is indeed a little interesting according to the calculation of the price of BTC will continue to rise due to the increasingly scarce supply.
2457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 18, 2022, 05:30:03 PM
What about the rumours mane is leaving Liverpool. I read the rumours he wanted PSG. But just now I read the news if Liverpool will keep Mane but with the salary they pay and do not change the salary structure of other Liverpool players. This is done because their age is about to enter old, and that becomes Liverpool's main consideration. In addition, Mane also wants to stay at Liverpool, but until now there has been no official announcement from the club or Mane. But to be honest Mane deserves to stay at Liverpool because he has been pretty good this season.
2458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 18, 2022, 02:07:46 PM
Correct. Real Madrid players, Barcelona players, and Atletico players must feel tired as well. These teams have played in many competitions, but they never showed that they are tired. So, the players' fatigue isn't the right reason for a continuous decline in Sevilla performance. There should be another reason, it may be their strategy, player composition or formation, or disharmony between coaches and players, or any other else. It is unclear since there is no explanation from Sevilla management. However, Sevilla is still lucky if they finish in 4th place. They are eligible for UCL competition in the next season.

Sevilla played quite well, they were even able to kick Man United out of UCL. If they look downhill I think there is something lacking in the team so they cannot perform stable. This is why some clubs at the beginning of the season looked so promising, but in the end they couldn't survive. As a football team, many factors have to do with achievement. I don't think they've been able to do all that well, so they can't defend. I'm sure if all goes well then a football club will be able to stabilize in one season and the next.
2459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 17, 2022, 07:27:17 PM
Newcastle had full control of the game. And they silenced Arsenal. It was one of the poorest displays I ever seen from the Gunners ever.  They simply didn’t look as though they wanted 4th place that will now be given to Tottenham.  On the other hand, I was truly impressed by the speed and skill shown by Newcastle. You guys will play champions league within 2 or 3 seasons.
Arteta has not been able to make Arsenal stable in the game. If I can judge a player, Arsenal get all red grades. Unfortunately, the eternal streak made them drop to 5th place, if their last game lost then they failed to get to UCL, even if they won and Tottenham won they also failed. Of course this is a job that Arteta has to improve, they have to be active in the summer transfer. Relying on all the players in this season will not be able to compete for next season.
2460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will "hyperbitcoinization" become a reality? on: May 17, 2022, 06:31:41 PM
No, it's not going to happen yet. Many of the world are still studying, and they have a fear of the nature of bitcoin that they cannot control. They can only control outside regulations or people who use them instead of the coin. Maybe the adoption of technology that they will use a lot, the basis is because they have the ability to control everything. So bitcoin looks like it will be difficult to accept in the near future. In addition to human ability, the safety factor is a major problem.
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