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Looks to me like he is totally taking the piss out of you.
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Those pictures are basically from the month they started. To claim "scam" off of pictures and info from a company fresh from a startup is ludicrous. All Startups have to build up from somewhere. I work for a company called Medimmune, acquired by Astrazeneca about 5 years ago, and you know where they started??? In a basement after a picnic! Alpha has kept lines of communication open. They have kept up with developmental updates and haven't accepted a Pre-order in over a year and a half! They are active on their forum. They accept Credit Cards which means they have to gain approval from a company and show some form of capital other than 1 euro. The credit card acceptance also helps to protect the buyers in the long run. There has to be a legit business plan in place. Why would Alpha choose to rent a building in one of the most expensive areas of the UK when they could have done it for nothing in India and scammed everyone!? I don't mind if you guys want to come on here and give a kind awareness, but please be a little more constructive with your opinions and little less condescending. I am trying to make a sale here, and defamation of the product without legit proof in your statements is bothersome to me. I'm sure you all would feel the same if this was your thread. Except there isnt a product and hasnt been for over a year |
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If the product ever arrives.
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Trying to sell a pre order from June 2014 they still haven't delivered on  Hate to burst your bubble, it's coming up to a year and can't be looking good. |
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The coins is look nice and also cute, but the price is look to much nice  I have a question, why is the quality of the coin still good? Is those never been used before? The coins were made by Shanghai Mint in China in 1986, in those 29 years the coins have never been removed from the original mint packaging and its the complete set of 1oz, 1/2 oz, 1/4 oz, 1/10 oz and 1/20 oz coins. The 1/2 and 1/4 oz are the most expensive to source due to the low mintage figures. Old Gold and Silver Panda's hold quite a high premium which will continue to rise in the future. Only selling these to fund another gold purchase. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=1986+gold+panda&_sop=3 |
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Why not just withdraw the paypal balance to a bank account?
Stolen / hacked paypal?
I think the negative profile feedback will put most people off.
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Hope everyone remembers to use escrow. Lots of newbies with no trade history so could end up in disaster  |
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A final bump, have now listed these on ebay. Grab them quick for BTC before they go  |
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Bitcoin is supposedly a better money than gold when you evaluate it according to all the characteristics that make for good money, it's divisible, fungible, durable, portable, identifiable, and scarce.
How many people actually use BTC as money on a regular basis here? Most people seem to treat it like an asset, hoarding and holding hoping for the moon. |
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33.24 troy oz of gold and 6 x 10oz silver pamp suisse.
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The chest is kept in a safe at my place of work. one much larger and more expensive than a regular home safe.
Not looking to sell any of of the other pandas at the moment but will drop you a pm if I change my mind.
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Just from your OP, you've hit 2 markers for a scam. Leave more information.
I don't understand that ! can you explain more please ? 1. Saying your a girl is a way to entice males since its a male dominated community to respond to you 2. Simple question. Are you willing to use escrow, or send the btc first to trusted members of the forum. 3. You have never said how much btc you are selling at what price. Those 3 things right there. Agree totally, will be the usual you send first as paypal is reversible and your fully protected ...... |
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Spending my Gold v2.0 on Gold v1.0 seems a little backwards.  Would you rather stare at the digital digits on your screen or have a treasure chest? My current stack -    Only selling the pandas to fund another gold purchase. |
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This discussion has lead to a really interesting point, actually! The replicability of Bitcoin has always been a high concern and also point of critique for many people who aren't convinced of Bitcoin's usefulness. I also believe that Bitcoin and Gold are quite similar what this is concerned, as both their scarcities could be attacked and circumvented at some point!
i agree that gold and bitcoin are quite similar, but with bitcoin you exactly know the amount that ever will be mined. not the case with gold. also important is that bitcoin has way more room for growth compared to gold. The supply of gold is indeed uncertain but there are ways to more or less estimate the remaining earth's gold capacity, even tho is far from the mathematical exactitude guaranteed by bitcoin, but gold is still king of wealth perception. Which is why people keep comparing BTC to gold as even though they wont admit it, subconsciously its still perceived as the ultimate store of wealth across the globe. |
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This discussion has lead to a really interesting point, actually! The replicability of Bitcoin has always been a high concern and also point of critique for many people who aren't convinced of Bitcoin's usefulness. I also believe that Bitcoin and Gold are quite similar what this is concerned, as both their scarcities could be attacked and circumvented at some point!
i agree that gold and bitcoin are quite similar, but with bitcoin you exactly know the amount that ever will be mined. not the case with gold. also important is that bitcoin has way more room for growth compared to gold. I would disagree with this, the total amount of bitcoin to be mined could easily be changed if they decide to tweak the code in the future. In theory it could be an infinite amount. |
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Those that know their gold will know this is a very special and super rare set of 29 year old Panda's (so no spot value offers please ) I have for offer a full set of 5 coins of 1986 Gold Chinese Panda's in original Shanghai Mint packaging - 1 oz 1/2 oz 1/4 oz 1/10 oz 1/20 oz As these have never been touched by human hands, still in the original mint packaging and should grade very high should you wish to do so - I will also supply the original receipt from a very well known UK bullion dealer (Atkinsons - http://atkinsonsbullion.com ) so there is no doubt about authenticity.   Mintage info (nice and low ) -  Price : 14 BTC(subject to change due to BTC volatility) Should you receive any pm's regarding the coins please ensure you double check the user name to avoid name cloning scammers! |
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I have the feeling gold may be indeed forever, but it doesn't automatically mean Gold is #1 forever. BTC is much better in a lot of ways, we never know how society will evolve in the future and its perceptions towards what is and what isn't the standard for wealth.
The one question that is most interesting, I believe, is: What is going to happen first: Gold can be reproduced cheaply, or the algorithms (esp. hashing functions) used in Bitcoin can be reversed or undermined - and no new functions are being found to replace them? I don't really know where to place my bet on this one! Thats actually something that most havent even considered lol. But effects the outcome immensely, since but I feel like gold will always somewhat harder since its not a digital thing. A miner has to dig several feet in the earths surface, only to filter through the sand for flakes, that eventually add up reasonable weight. As a algorithm can be changed by coders several seconds if the hackathon comes up with an idea area to focus on. Doesn't matter. We're living in an age of information. Money is being protected by algorithms. Algorithms make it much easier to verify claims, and to hinder people from doing things which they're not allowed to do. If - at one point - we can reproduce gold cheaply (think Star Trek's replicator), Gold will be pretty much worthless (almost, at least). One time pad encryptions, on the other hand, can't be broken - ever. If we ever reach that point then everything will be worthless as it can all be replicated including the replicators All you'll need your BTC for is to pay the electric bill but that will be dirt cheap as we'll be on fusion reactor power by then. Also are we closer to replicating gold in a cost efficient method or creating a fully functional quantum computer that can chew through BTC encryption. |
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