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2461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 27, 2016, 06:22:47 AM
I have no plan to get rich from gambling! Gambling is just an activity to look for entertainment! We cant and shouldnt rely on gambling to get rich. To be honest, there is no one, afaik, that able to get massive or regular incomes from it.

Those who loves to recruit people has a regular income from the gambling sites atleast a few cents aside from them, the investors and the house...But as bettors, I doubt it that everyday will be a sunny day... Some consider it as a serious way to make money than just a normal activity or leisure...  Smiley
I am actually an affiliate of nitrogensports and as far as I remember I had the affiliate for more than 2 years now but still my earning has not reach to 1 BTC yet, I can say it is not profitable, though you will not lose but than span of time does not commensurate with my earnings. I would rather invest in sites on that matter.
2462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: August 27, 2016, 06:17:37 AM
My strategy in gambling is to play in sports betting since it's skill based, and betting on top teams on a popular league/tournament may guarantee you some money if you're smart enough.  Grin

Betting on top teams could increase the winning chance but there is no way to make guaranteed profit even sports betting too, sports betting is mostly based on our skill and how wise we are to pick the option fro betting, sports betting is also my favorite form for gambling so that I can say this it has good chance to make profit.
of course noone can guarantee you can make profit ,
but at least with this choosing favorites club strategy in sportsbetting i guess it is better than gambling blindly ,
it has a low odds or multiplier but it has a better chance ,
bet for top teams or top player are a reasonable strategy than any other strategies.

yeah, its better  to  bet  on sports than to play  other gambling games which you are  blindly playing same as you said. Sports betting could  have the possiblity to increase your chance you winning rate  if you are  knowledgeable enough  to those teams or players you bet it would not make a guarantee win always but the possibility is high.

sports betting is not for everyone, you have to have a lot of information about the games and the players of those games. and in some cases you have to have been following the teams closely to be able to predict their win or loss and be able to make a bet and win. otherwise there is no point in sports betting if you don't know anything.

Yeah I agree on that because what you really need is some experience too beside every single information that you can get. Moreover there is a lot of pro and contra information thats why you really need experience to determine which team you are going to bet

experience and the information is all good and useful but in the end everything can turn with luck.
we have all seen many different games that had an unbelievable result in the end. so many good teams that lost to an unknown team with bad record and a lot of other situations.
Information is only necessary when you are playing a skilled base game or like sports betting. In sports betting you need all the necessary information on both teams so you could analyze and see what is the real value in the line, sports betting is easy now as we can see important statistics posted online for free.
2463  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: August 27, 2016, 06:10:59 AM
I am just started to my member rank signature campaign, so hoping i will earn now extra from my campaign, apart from this i am doing altcoin trading and skill work for bitcoin. so some part of my expenses i am earning through bitcoin.

But you cant say it is a living. It is a gpod addition to your income if you have a day job. It did help me and I got better salary now than my workmates if I add this all up.

Yup you cannot depend on signature campaign for living as you won't earn higher income from its an good extra source of income which can be helpful at the time of emergencies.

Yeah, signature campaign is good for earning bitcoin but it's not enough for earning a living. You also need another thing to earn a living, like trading and do another service.

Yes trading can help you in earning a living with it but for that you also need to invest good capital as with small capital you won't be able to make good income out of it.
I wanna tell you about my friend yesterday one of my friend tells me they're withdrawal $4500 of their profit for a month and that is just from trading. and he can buy a car and another expensive thing in this time with trading and that's so amazing.

this is good but you have to remember that not everybody is making this much money from trading. in fact a lot of the users you see here are also trading but they are losing their money because they treat trading as a type of gambling game which is the wrong way of doing it.
Absolutely right, trading is not that easy as we see it, maybe we are too confident to jump on it because we hear some negative feed backs from traders that they are making money doing day trading, it could work to them because they are full time with it and the study it very well and when we trade without complete information we are just gambling.
2464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 27, 2016, 05:45:39 AM
I want to see Eric Bledsoe back in the line up for the suns, actually when he played last season suns is a playoff contender as we have seen that the phoenix suns can score and they are a great three point shooting team that time until bledsoe got injured and knight was not able to handle well the PG position.
2465  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 27, 2016, 05:15:20 AM
I am learning about this currency,first i have to learn ,how to mine coins. Being a learning curve i guess it takes some time to learn these new stuffs. Right now i have many doubts than answers. how do we invest. Do we have a bank ?

Hi SaShiRaJaVu,
Welcome to the world of bitcoins and as you will go along, you will find out that it is not really that hard to have bitcoins and using them. First thing is you need to have a bitcoin wallet where you store your bitcoins and also use to receive bitcoins. It is like your ordinary fiat bank.

Knowing these won't take long and before you knew it, you are already trading and using bitcoins all the time.

Took blockchain as my bank. Now how do i mine with it, or do i need to download something else. Do i need  Bitcoin Core: 0.12.1 to mine coins. One more thing is, what is this ALT coins, is that another branch of coins.
Alt coins are alternative coins because the main coin here the bitcoin, since you are a newbie I understand that important information are not known to you yet, but I like your positive attitude for the willingness to learn, honestly, if you want to know all the answer it is written all in the altcoin section and bitcoin discussion for bitcoin.
2466  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why we must trust with bitcoin? on: August 27, 2016, 04:15:09 AM
Or would is in a permanent crisis, and these unstable financial conditions are the perfect scenario to store our valuable bitcoins instead of fiat or gold. Taking into account that economic uncertainty will never disappear, saving bitcoins as a reliable store of value will always be worth.
I agree with your statement, since bitcoin is not dependent in any currency, we are safe from any economic crisis. And there is a chance that will will shift to bitcoin as it is more safer currency that cannot be manipulated by a certain group with personal interest.
2467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: August 27, 2016, 03:49:35 AM
I think that people hate bitcoin because it takes so long to get a lot of bitcoin and that it is time consuming
It always depend on people on how they are going to get bitcoins because some of us people want to spoon feed them , why people hard to work for their selves ?? . And for additional people who don't know about bitcoin will probably the one who hate it , and for those investors who already got scammed by scammy website where they're invest all their money.

Just like in any fiat money, accumulating bitcoins depends on you. If you work hard and do some jobs with bitcoin payments, then you will get many bitcoins easily and when you are good at trading, you can get some good profit with trading bitcoins.

However, if you just wait and do nothing to get bitcoins or you just get bitcoins in some faucet sites, then it will really be hard to get bitcoins these ways.
Faucet is not the answer if you want to get bitcoin, there are two ways to earn for me which are working for bitcoin and buying bitcoin. With that method you can increase your bitcoins if the amount of bitcoin you buy will be use for investing and if you are earning you need do learn how to save to grow your money.
2468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 27, 2016, 03:36:50 AM
I don't gamble mostly, and when i gamble i make it for fun not more than this, so i can't be rich from gambling, and i think it is really hard to become rich with gambling

If you are just playing or gambling for fun, then the chances of becoming rich is low unless you got very lucky and hit the jackpot. However, if you teach yourself and play like a pro gamblers, you will have a potential to get rich in gambling provided however that you have a big bankroll, many sessions, and have a pre-planned betting system.
It is easier said than done mate, I believe majority of the gamblers have that in mind already, the reason why we keep on losing is because we always think we can win in gambling and we are following the method of the professionals but in the end we still lose due to lack of self discipline.
2469  Economy / Services / Re: Hire me for 0.01 BTC for signature campeign on: August 27, 2016, 03:11:29 AM
LOL! you must be kidding, you should grow up first before you work for a signature campaign, there are some campaign who accepts newbie but you will not be paid base on your amount of expectation. So good luck to you OP, hope you can find one.
2470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 26, 2016, 01:04:40 PM
With the ridiculous amounts of money being given to players these days, you can't blame those who want to make a comeback. Although already past their prime, some of the players who have not been playing for a while might find themselves with another year or two of playing in the NBA. The likes of Ray Allen, Jermaine O'neal and Ben Gordon are among those who come to mind right away. These guys can still have an impact, albeit a limited one on any team they play for.
All wants to come back in NBA because of the opportunity to earn but the decision is not always on the player whether he can play. NBA is in business so they are just going to sign a player that could help the team and could entertain the fans as well.
yes mate it is not the  players who can control whether they can paly or not it is the team who wanted to profits from their business
so i just hope for the best for all of them especially to those who's still have the capability to play.

I also saw the news that even Kwame Brown want a comeback. He said that he's mature now. I hope he play good if he will sign in a team. I remember when he drafted, everyone have high expectation on him.
He matures as he aged, he is not more effective than before because our age will make our game lesser aggressive, he will still be dominated by younger guys in the NBA. But let us give this guy a chance, I hope I'm wrong.
2471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: August 26, 2016, 08:25:32 AM
It is possible to profit in gambling if you know how to control your self once you reached a certain target. The problem with other gamblers is they dont know when to quit or greed starts to push them to play some more. Quit when you staryed to earn even if its just a small amount rather than loose because you continue to play even when you already earned some profits.
well of course it is possible in my opinion because it depends only on luck and nothing else

I agree with lemipawa that is the problem when people gamble they don't know when to quit especially when greed together when rage comes to them and they can't help themselves in able to stop that feeling. I think gambling alone is going to become a profitable activity if you are just going to manage your self as you gamble and control your emotions.
Most of us has the problem, the thing is when we are winning in our session in gambling we will not stop because we want to push our luck to get more money as we can so it we will end in a losing passion. On the other hand, when we are losing we will not stop also as we want to take back our money and since we are not behaving well our decision will be affected which makes us lose in the end.
2472  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: August 26, 2016, 08:19:28 AM
banks can not accept bitcoin transactions because banks pays us intrest for using our money and bitcoin do not use our money for anything banks had a owner and bitcoin is open source
Yes there is a huge difference between a bitcoin wallet and a bank and these cannot be compared with each other i think.
If i had to choose the i think banks are the much more safer option than that of bitcoin because if something wrong happens we can complain there in person but in wallet we can only send them emails and then just hope for the best.
Using bank is a safer option for the reason that your asset's value is as it is while in bitcoin, it may have a chance of increasing in value, I still can not bear the fact that it can also recede in value.
That is simply because they do have different use, bitcoin nowadays is a good investment and not good in saving your money as the value of your money may change from time to time due to fluctuation. If you do both saving and investing you need to make use of bank and bitcoin to effectively do your thing.
2473  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: August 26, 2016, 08:14:21 AM
if you are a big investor then surely you can manipulate the price of bitcoin, but it is not such an easy task, because it need a lot of money and strong decision taking hear.
I think if you want to manipulate the price of bitcoin you need a lot of things? I would recommend you have a lot of teams dude. because I think one person is not enough to manipulate the price of bitcoin even if you're a big trader. you need a solid team with a very large capital dude
We have huge number of bitcoin users here on forum.I guesstimate almost 70% people who use,own or have heard about bitcoin has once or more visited this forum so we,forum users,can make a cartel to manipulate prices
well it is possible for sure though no one does that and in my opinion never will do that, only bigger whales can manipulate the price
Whales has no power to manipulate the price nowadays, we are compose of the people who are holding a good volume of bitcoin and we all have our own interest, the increasing number of adopters is a good factor that would lessen the power of the whales to control the price, the law of supply and demand shall prevail overtime.
2474  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: August 26, 2016, 08:11:59 AM
Maybe i suggest if you have money and you want to buy a bitcoin do some trading to gain your money and increase it. If you gonna buy 1 btc and wait the bitcoin get high maybe you need to wait when it that happen. But if you gonna trade it in altcoin to wait thar time you can earn big by gathering all you income while waiting the bitcoin get into higher level.

Using Bitcoins you buy to do altcoin trading only adds risks. Especially for people not knowing how to calculate these risks, and what mess the altcoin market really is. It's a gamble. You either hit big, or lose. It's simply not worth it.

Exactly, if you are not aware about altcoin market and if you jump into it then its a pure gamble for you as there is no guarantee that you will make profits out of it.
you are right, in my opinion it might be a really hard mission for a newbie to do, to be honest it would make me some good money if i did that
And I would not risk my bitcoin in buying altcoins too, altcoins do exist in a short period of time and it is only good for short term investment. Only bitcoin has the potential to last and therefore we should only focus our investment with bitcoin.
2475  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 26, 2016, 08:06:24 AM
It depends on many factors. First of all it depends on how much money you have. It also depends on the current economic situation as well as on prospects of the company you invest in
That should be known by someone who are willing to invest since investing is not a simple way to make money, it also has a bigger risk if you will just directly put your money without a proper study. I am confident that a true investor who are willing to put big money had already read the necessary information before doing the engagement.
2476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 26, 2016, 08:01:39 AM
Any way to gamble where your own money is not involved can be considered smart way. You may use affiliate programs or bonuses to have money for playing on some gambling sites. This is smartness to be risk free as try to make much more with money you got through different ways. You can find ways to play for free by predicting or promoting sites. Then play responsibly without greed can make you money.

No one can earn that much money from affiliate programs or bonuses as much he can invest by himself and addicted people do not like playing with small amounts that can get finished in a minute but they like to play with as much they have that is the reason why they cannot stop themselves when they have money.

Well if you are going to depend on those affiliate programs and bonuses well that is not going to be enough in able for you to gambling in smart way. But gambling with out your own money involved is going to be the smartest way but I think there are only some of it and very limited at all but those always fall for it.
Yeah and using money that you just get free online like satoshies, I think that is one thing or one example that you should try to use when you want to play in gambling sites so that if you lose it at least you did not lose your personal income or savings.
I cannot rely on affiliate program because I know the earnings their, it is so little and it still involve luck for your to get a good amount of money. You need to attract someone to sigh up on you and you are lucky if that person is s total gambler who bets big amount of money.
2477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 26, 2016, 07:56:40 AM
No, even the professional gamblers was not exempted by the risk. Losing is part of their daily routine but being a professional gambler they were able to find a ways to get back their capital and earn their profit that is how it goes.

Yeah all of the people are in risk if they are going to gamble. But in reality there is no safe method as you gamble. And they are just called as professional gamblers because they are professional risk takers. They don't care on how much they are going to earn as long as there is a chance to win no matter what how big it is. They are going to risk their money.


Exact to the point, there's no such safe way to gamble as he mentioned professional gamblers they are all the same with ordinary gamblers out there, they're jus called prof. Gamblers because the are veteran in this industry and they play gamble longer than others but in reality as you said there are no ways to have a safe method because safe method means 100% chance to win, and there's no 100% win In gambling.

Yeah so if you want to play gambling with safe method to the point that you don't want to lose any amount. So, the safest way would be put zipper on your pocket and lock it so that you are not going to use it for gambling because you want it to be safe. Or you can just store it to your storage like bitcoin wallet for bitcoins or bank for fiat.
Gambling actually is a good training ground if you want to be an investor in real life, if you will just look at closely you will analyze that luck is not just the key in gambling, you will learn how to control your emotion and you will also learn how to manage the risks.

Absolutely , if you are thinking about earning easy money in gambling then you better stop. Even if gambling destroys most of our lives yet it has also advantages like as you have said that it is a good training ground but you should only gamble what you can afford to lose
It is the basic principle in gambling and anyone who does not follow that will not succeed in gambling. We do gambling because we enjoy it but when we are gambling the money we cannot afford to lose which I am sure we will lose it in the long run, we are not going to appreciate gambling.
2478  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning a living with bitcoin? on: August 26, 2016, 07:48:16 AM
I think it is possible, but it requires some creativity and, in most cases, investment of real cash. But you could always use mining, provide services and trade, which will depend on your knowledge and experience.
Yeah! because we cannot get free money here, it always takes money to make money. The least we can to have money is we work for it here as there are many opportunities to those who wanted to work online. Our earning can be use for investing here and if we are lucky we can grow our money at a short period of time.
2479  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 26, 2016, 06:10:08 AM
It's very strange question for me, you just need to put a part of your money in long box for a better times, and the main rule is not to use this money when it's no needed.
well yeah basically you have to put your money in a really safe place so no one can steal it and that would be it just dont spend it
Nothing is more safer than putting your money in the bank. Your money will be subject to insurance once bank will be robbed so you have no problem with your money, your concern now is just to save as much as you can for your future and have the opportunity to invest once you reach a decent amount of savings.
2480  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 26, 2016, 06:03:35 AM
I am still on the school, maybe there is time. But I wish I could go back there.
though you still might become rich with bitcoins if you get some bitcoins and then do trading and make good profit with it
You have to finish your studies first before you enter into trading and investing. Both needs time and you cannot do it effectively if you are doing both, you studies should be your first priority and when you matured that is time to start chasing your dreams in a way you want to do it.
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