Only if all employees are being paid the same wage. Thus it only works if you assume that all Miners pay the same overhead, but they don't. The largest players have efficient equipment and are in low low low cost areas. Sure, we will see some drop in hash power, but I expect it to be like the last halving: barely noticeable.
I hope and believe so also. But mining has become a lot more competitive and margins are thinner. It could get interesting but I'll be holding all the way through.
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Half the value of bitcoins produced means half the miners will be shut down? This is a false statement.
To a rough approximation, it is realistic. If you have a payroll of $500k and that gets you 10 workers of the appropriate skill level, if you cut that payroll to $250k, you can now get 5 workers of the appropriate skill level. Of course, there is likely to be some increase in hashing efficiency over time but we are talking less than two weeks so I am ignoring that. This is irrelevant to the point anyway.
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when the halving comes hash-power won't drop so dramatically Its not as tho the big farms aren't turning a profit... and miners only get more efficient. so there will most definitely be a lot of miners dropping out but closer to 10-25%, hashrate will drop out, and then start to climb again....
When the halving comes, after the next difficulty adjustment comes, there will be half the value of bitcoins being produced so about half of the mining power (the least efficient half) will be shut down. This is not a big deal. The issue is the time between the halving and the difficulty change. Up until the halving, miners will be throwing in hash power to get as big a share of the rewards as possible. This cuts profitability. After the halving, it's suddenly a different game. Let's say that, for example, it takes an average of $7 of electricity to generate $10 of bitcoins. That's a pretty good profit margin and is probably over-generous. Now the halving happens and suddenly everyone is spending $7 of electricity to generate $5 of bitcoins. The most sensible thing to do is switch off until the next difficulty change. The problem is, this is not just for one miner but any of them who are paying over $5 of electricity to generate a bitcoin. Now, as I say, I think this won't come to pass for various reasons but those reasons are not very solid.
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Every now and then, I will lose half or all of my hashing power on the S5. Powering off and on the unit will fix it but simply rebooting from the command line or web interface (both are working fine) will not. The status line for the blades shows all 'o's. Is there a way to bring it back to life remotely or am I going to have to work out some kind of remote power control??
Edit: Dropping the clock and restarting brought half of the hashing back. The other board is all Xs now so at least that's getting somewhere.
Edit2: Another reboot and all 'o's again but my hashrate is still around 1/2 what it should be. Think I'll have to rig up an R-Pi for remote power switching.
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The funny thing is: we've all been focusing on how the halving will affect the price. But what about the hashrate? If the BTC price is still scraping along the bottom, a whole bunch of mines are going to become unprofitable in an instant.
I have seen someone bring this up on Reddit. In theory, what could happen is the block reward drops, a bunch of miners become immediately unprofitable and get switched off. Now, because the hash-power has now dropped precipitously, the rate at which blocks are mined drops hugely. This will be corrected at the next difficulty adjustment but difficulty adjustment periods are defined in terms of the block number, not date. With a 10 minute block time, the difficulty adjustment would be scheduled for about 10 days after the halving. If, say, 50% of miners stop mining, block time could increase to 20 minutes and the difficulty would adjust 20 days after the halving. The person who brought this up on Reddit was suggesting that somewhere around 88% of miners could switch off. Long block times could also be damaging to the Bitcoin price leading to even more unprofitability and even more miners switching off. And the longer and longer before the difficulty adjustment, the more miners are likely to switch off. You could argue that miners will keep mining because it's to their benefit to maintain confidence in Bitcoin but it's a prisoner's dilemma situation and it shouldn't be assumed that miners will operate as a charity. Note that not only would long block times just be bad in general, the 1MB block limit would mean that many transactions would not get processed (removing the limit would not be especially helpful if things got that bad though) Now, I'm pretty optimistic that we won't see this doomsday scenario but I have to admit that it has a fair bit of legitimacy.
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BitcoinXT is not the same as BIP101. BitcoinXT is a software repository. BIP101 is a proposed way to rise the limit. If you don't like BitcoinXT, you could implement BIP101 yourself by patching BitcoinCore. BitcoinXT will remove the BIP101 code, or replace by some other BIP, if the community were to reject BIP101. BitcoinCore will eventually implement BIP101, or some other BIP, if the community maintains their support for it.
To be fair, in the article Armstrong is talking about XT rather than BIP101
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Price is flat, forum is dead. Exciting times are upon us! Stability achieved.
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How did you make this cool retro "kitt 2000" graphics?
Just simple gd library stuff.
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Having trouble parsing what you wrote there... "You have to be exchange something of value to be able to get them"?
Phrased inelegantly, I admit but goods and services like any currency As far as endless supply, you are, once again, confusing artificial scarcity & actual scarcity. Princess Diana BTCeanie, like your Bit-coin, is given value by artificial scarcity. Money is worth money without a random maximum number being imposed. Please try to grasp this, because it's important. Irrelevant. The point is that the supplier can issue more at little cost to themselves. As far as "if you go to a different store, you can't spend them there"? I'm yet to go to a store that didn't accept fiat money, but don't need to go any further than the closest bodega to find one that won't take BTC Countries is the metaphor here. Tell me where I can go nearby to spend the crisp 10 pound note I have left over from recent travels.
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Wish people would stop conflating BTC with real currencies, when it's far more akin to Chuck E. Cheese coins & other fun bux, both in market cap & day-to-day use.
Nah, fiat is more like that. You have to be exchange something of value to be able to get them, there's an endless supply of them and if you don't exchange them for some shitty trinkets in short order, they become worthless. Also, if you go to a different store, you can't spend them there.
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The owls are not what they seem.
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how far away is the halfing?
July 2016 Yep. It's going to be a bit earlier than scheduled too. We've been averaging 580 seconds per block rather than 600 as mining growth has been outpacing the difficulty adjustments.
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Anyone have an answer to the above question, yet?
It was answered a while back. It's a countdown to the block halving. Interestingly, at current prices, there will be about $304 million dollars more worth of bitcoins mined by the next halving.
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Damage and recovery is good for the Bitcoin price. It's like some kind of Sayan that gets stronger every time it's defeated but not killed. What is not good is the long, drawn-out downtrend that we saw for two years. That's broken now so I reckon a bit of consolidation then we'll see some significant upside as people load up in the run-up to the halvening.
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To be truly database-agnostic, should we also allow the "sendz-all-your-coinz2whizz94" database ?
If someone wants to write the appropriate interface and it can support the functions, sure.
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Whats the new BTH-Bar telling us? Blocks-to-halvening.
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You seem to be missing the point of the whole discussion. Artificial scarcity results in artificially high prices given a constant demand. Artificial scarcity can reduce demand if the higher prices make an alternative relatively more attractive.
To be honest, I've forgotten how the discussion started amongst images of a universe filled with pigs.
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I am ditching Mint. Building a Ubuntu 14.4 and try again.
You should give Xubuntu a try - it's much less resource hungry than Ubuntu, especially once the unneeded programs are removed. Slackware FTW.
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It has, awhile ago. I initially simply meant to point out that scarcity != artificial scarcity. Trivial stuff, not sure why people raise such a ruckus It depends. They can be equivalent in some circumstances. The artificial scarcity introduced by copyright allowed companies to charge very high prices for music and movies.
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Now lets discuss the properties of spherical chickens in a vacuum! Dyson or Hoover?
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