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2461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: July 23, 2016, 05:37:46 AM
Me too down some 100$ and still in process to earn it back.
Gambling is so risky i think those ppl can lose there money to gambling they are addicted with it. So gambling is not advisable too those who want intant money. If you lose some dont do it again bcoz no body get profit in gambling. 100$ is much enough i suggest that do trading.

Yes gambling really is so risky. Almost the same with investing on HYIPs, but it differs on the time span since you can earn or lose instantly with gambling. In my self preference, I rather choose bet on gambling than on hyips and other ponzis.

HYIP's really are just risks and you can prevent losing if you are a good analyzer. In gambling, you can analyze some games but some luck games are not designed to be analyzed. Because its none sense to gamble if you risked on an unknown kind of deals. Better gamble in sports bet because even if you lose, it is you own fault.
I also recommend to play sports betting for real chance in gambling, dice games are fun but that is only base on our luck and only if we have extreme luck where we will win in the game but it would not guarantee that we can win in the long run.

We know we all gamble because of money and to bag a huge amount of money that we can get in the long run.

In gambling we win and lose will come almost equal. But its depend on your betting amount. Yes if you win small and next bet you do significant amount and lose that bet means. You result loose. So maintain consistency in your bet then you profit and loss will come equal. Butin sports betting we have a chance to make a profit.

That is why the bankroll management is very important. Proper bankroll management should be observed at all time and I advise that flat betting should be followed even if we think that this bet is the best bet of our life as we think it could be a guaranteed win.
2462  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: July 23, 2016, 04:42:20 AM
Currently im not selling the coins im mining and arent bitcoin for sure, some altcoins that i believe on it and i know its under the real value, soo i will collect the more as i can to later profit from it, but each one should choose what to do.

We are expecting higher price at the end of the year so its better to hold our coins till that point of time to earn maximum profits from it.
All of us are expecting for a higher price as the is the way we can earn form our investment. Waiting for the future is really good but we have to set a definite plan on when are we going to sell our bitcoins and when are we going to stop holding.
2463  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 23, 2016, 04:36:19 AM
Best way for you, and best way for me is not the same! This is world is a jungle, and each animal have different skills and possibilities. Sooner someone get this, sooner will find that best way.

You can try to follow someone else steps, that is good for people who don't have a clear plan in their life. That is also recommended for people who have fear from risk.

Did I read a suggestion there on how to get the best way for study Income?  Seems a jungle for me that you need to uncover just to find the treasure needed.  Anyway get a job!  that is the best steady way of income.  If you don't like a steady job, you won't have any steady income.  Even affiliate referral isnt that steady though it give a good passive income.
You will get steady income if your job is in the company that is also stable. We have seen a lot of companies that are closing because they cannot sustain their operation due to lack of business planning so if we are working we need to ensure that we are working in a reputable company.
2464  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 23, 2016, 04:32:02 AM
One of the best saving strategies is to pay yourself first. What this means is that you designate a certain amount of your paycheque as your pay (how novel) and you pay that money to yourself before you pay your bills or anyone else. This amount can be $25, $100 or maybe 10% of your paycheque. It can be any amount that you decide. The important part is that you pay yourself first rather than last. Most people pay all of the bills first and then save anything that might be left over. For most people, that method of saving doesn’t really work because nothing is left over to save.

If you pay yourself first, then money will get saved because paying yourself is now your first priority. The nice thing about this method is if your budget is a little tight, it forces you to make adjustments elsewhere and your savings continue to grow.

Paying yourself first also makes sense. Why are you going to work everyday anyway? To earn money for someone else? No way. You go to work to earn money for you and your family. That’s why you should pay yourself first—to make sure that your first priority is taken care of: you. It is not likely that anyone else is going to take care of you because they assume that you are taking care of yourself.

That is actually the best way to save money if someone is really serious about it, and if someone's salary is a little high or good enough he can save a good amount everytime he gets his salary, in that way he will not also have to do any adjustments because his salary is enough to cover everything.

If you want to be safe then saving money in fixed deposits is the best thing to do as you also get good interests from it which can be more valuable in future.
I think you are referring to savings in a bank. We should also consider that saving in a bank will only give us the security to safe keep our money but the interest would not suffice. It is still advisable that we need also to invest some from our savings to have a better future ahead of us.

That's true investment will help in giving us good profits in future which is not possible with savings but to have good balance I think one should go with both of them.

Correct, investment would be a big help on growing on your money rather than on saving it but its not bad to have savings but if youre a wise man get a little part of that savings and invest into something that you know that you can gain profit. So, if youre already gaining profit then you add it into savings just continue  the process then youll succedd on the end.
Investment can help you achieve your dream and by doing it you should be ambitious enough as that is too risky and you need to prepare yourself if the other way around happens. If one can succeed in saving money, he can also be successful in investing.
2465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: July 23, 2016, 04:29:30 AM
I'd have thought more shorts would've covered, but there's still way too many open. The Eth whales are in total control.

Opened a small one from 225 and close it at 215 after I saw BTC falling, glad I got out in time. I think shorting above $15 is safe if you leverage it well and are willing to hold but the loan rates have gone up obviously so that sucks.

I would probably be tempted to start shorting at 260-270. It also depends what BTC does. I now have no doubts that this is clear and HUGEEEE (imitates Trump) manipulation.

I would not touch ETH now, lucky are those who bought at the lower price, ETH back up on it's best price and that is good for the holders who does not dump when crisis happens.

This is great for ETH and maybe I will wait until another fall back will happen and try my luck for the very first time.
2466  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: July 22, 2016, 03:23:03 PM
Future remains intact of the paper money as worldwide there cannot be one currency. Paper money will not disappear anytime soon, maybe it will be replaced by something else similar to paper. Bitcoin could act as an secondary currency if country adopts it.
I think the paper money will not be replaced by other banknotes version but will be replaced by something more sophisticated like digital currency. perhaps currencies like bitcoin could take over
Bitcoin has all the potential to replace paper money. But the question is what is the level of understanding about bitcoin by people and how many people from around the globe are having awareness on bitcoin payment system. Without any proper answers for above questions, it is highly insane if we are expecting bitcoin to replace paper money.
Bitcoin is actually not that popular, some of the users of bitcoins are from the major countries only like USA, EUROPE, and CHINA. If we want to see bitcoin to be a popular global currency we also need to see some countries adopting with bitcoins.
2467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: July 22, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
I was introduced to bitcoin because of the pokersite seals with clubs. I have a question, is the online poker rigged in general?
Well, I cannot answer this but if you will ask me I would not trust in this game. I would rather play in dice as I can see even though our chances is lesser due to house advantage, we can still win if we are lucky.

of course, I also prefer dice game than any other game. Because in dice games we can see all the betting is done and we can figure out a way to get a victory from the data of people who do bet. In addition to dice games, I also like sport betting. brain mind that rely on wager
If I am too serious in gambling I would only play sports betting. I just play dice with a little amount of money and I understand already that I can win when I am with so much luck. I got a win with parlay of 5 games in sports betting and that amount of winning was really spent buying different stuffs in the internet.
2468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 22, 2016, 02:52:47 PM
Curry is better than LeBron ever was. I didn't use a question mark because its not a question.
Curry has been having some lebron-esque 4th quarter stat lines lately, though .
They have different skills and I believe lebron is more consistent. Curry will not be effective when guarded by double team and that would make him hard to shoot, all he knows is just to shoot 3 points but lebron is an all around player I guess.

Curry's clutch genes are too strong. Lebeta doesn't have any and needs D-Wade to close out games for him. And of course current Curry is better than any Bran. Curry makes the game so damn easy for his teammates.

So damn easy huh? Smiley Maybe the result of the last NBA finals was saved different in your precious mind. Did you watched the replay of NBA finals last month. I think GSW grabs the title when you watched the replay lol.
Seem like someone is playing favorites here, the fact that the cavaliers are the champ in the last finals that means lebron is more clutch than curry. Lebron has a consistent performance all 7 games in the finals and curry was like...... ( I don't  know but he can't shoot the way he did in regular season).
2469  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 22, 2016, 02:44:57 PM
Thats my dream to become rich someday. I worked hard just to save money cause i want  biuld a house for my family.
Right now we were only eatung to times a day  ,breakfast and lunch only.. hardworking is the key to auccess

In order for you to become rich, you need to check your spelling first. I think you are too tired already working hard with the way you type brother. Please don't take this as negative criticism but sometimes we need to rest also as we still have a new day to work.
2470  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 22, 2016, 02:40:49 PM
I will definite not to quit my job just to go fulltime on bitcoin, cause my job is my last hope for us to abke to survive.
Im the breadwinner of my family  so i need to work everyday.,in order for us to eat 3x a day.
That was so touching man, I see myself in you. I am a married man and I want to help my family, my wife, and children, my parents, and my bothers and sister. Imagine how hard working I am in that situation, I need to go overtime all the time just to fulfill my promise to them because that is how I love them.
2471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: July 22, 2016, 01:50:25 PM
Its going lower because there are more people that want to sell than people who want to buy
At the moment you can buy if you want, it would be smart because I do not think that the Bitcoin price is going to be any lower then this.
Then hold on to them after the halving we are going to see what the price then is, then decide what to do next.
Maybe because we have a huge increase for this year alone and people think that the price will still go back to normal and that would be the time for them to hammer the price. I think also that this would be lowest price so far after the halving, increase after the halving will happen and we need to watch out for that.
2472  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 22, 2016, 01:44:06 PM
investment is one of the best ways of reaching an steady income. but you need to be extra careful where you invest. if you can actually find something profitable to invest in, then you can make a good amount of money steadily.

for example this investment can be in your own business that you start and by expanding it you make an steady income over time.
Having your own business is the best way cause you will never be scam rather than just trusting your money online. However, you need to raise a decent capital to sustain your plan and if you have not steady income yet then working online is the best way to start earning.
I think making a business or a company you need a large capital. after you have capital that you can make a business. make sure you run a business that has potential in the present or the future you should know that the business income will not provide a fixed gain. but it will give you a great income
I agree with this one. Have a business that will hit the industry in the future, like what? Well, like Digital goods that can be use in long term, digital goods is one of the businesses that will hit our industry because where really into a generation where technology is making big impact in our life.
Maybe others would not invest in digital goods but for us we find a great future for that as we are also in the bitcoin world where coins are digital. We are so lucky we belong to the community and in that way we are updated with the new developments.
2473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: July 22, 2016, 01:34:50 PM
All my wins are more them all my losses .
That is good.  Grin
It is mostly a lose for people, I am lucky !  Tongue
That is your Luck, as I am seeing here on this forum that a number of people are of the view that they are losing more then what they win or their loses and victories are neutral, so in that they do not get from gambling. But this kind of no loss and no profit situations are much better than some gambler's always loss situations.
Exactly, because when you are just neutral in gambling that could mean that you are not enjoying in gambling, we should all seek to win to justify our time played in gambling, however, if we just want to have fun then let us just play without think our losses.

Only professionals track their loses while typical gamblers does not.

In gambling, for those who seek enjoyment, enjoyment do not related to earning money, but they only get the fun by playing and so the neutrals are good at gambling , but those who seek money at their and remain neutral in the profit-wise then they are continuously wasting their tme and energy and in the result they find nothing.
If you seek money you cannot be neutral because all you want is just to win. You can even sacrifice the enjoyment in gambling in order for you to fully utilize your decision making so that it would not be affected by your emotions. You invest emotion when making money then you will not be successful.
2474  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 22, 2016, 01:30:51 PM
The current price of Bitcoin this pass few weeks until now is currently almost stable . But i think after a few more weeks or few months price of  Bitcoin will start increasing again. This is a good time for the traders.
Yeah! I guess so but we have to wait a little longer to see a great price because it seems like the price barely move. Since we have not seen the price increase even after the halving so I believe we can still witness any price increase. There is not time to rush and sale if we all want to make profit in the future.
2475  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 22, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
One of the best saving strategies is to pay yourself first. What this means is that you designate a certain amount of your paycheque as your pay (how novel) and you pay that money to yourself before you pay your bills or anyone else. This amount can be $25, $100 or maybe 10% of your paycheque. It can be any amount that you decide. The important part is that you pay yourself first rather than last. Most people pay all of the bills first and then save anything that might be left over. For most people, that method of saving doesn’t really work because nothing is left over to save.

If you pay yourself first, then money will get saved because paying yourself is now your first priority. The nice thing about this method is if your budget is a little tight, it forces you to make adjustments elsewhere and your savings continue to grow.

Paying yourself first also makes sense. Why are you going to work everyday anyway? To earn money for someone else? No way. You go to work to earn money for you and your family. That’s why you should pay yourself first—to make sure that your first priority is taken care of: you. It is not likely that anyone else is going to take care of you because they assume that you are taking care of yourself.

That is actually the best way to save money if someone is really serious about it, and if someone's salary is a little high or good enough he can save a good amount everytime he gets his salary, in that way he will not also have to do any adjustments because his salary is enough to cover everything.

If you want to be safe then saving money in fixed deposits is the best thing to do as you also get good interests from it which can be more valuable in future.
I think you are referring to savings in a bank. We should also consider that saving in a bank will only give us the security to safe keep our money but the interest would not suffice. It is still advisable that we need also to invest some from our savings to have a better future ahead of us.
2476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 22, 2016, 01:04:51 PM
The chances of it wrecking your life are much greater then it fixing your life that is just a fact because most people lose more times then that they actually win with gambling.
If you now how to manage your money then it is not going to wreck your life even if you lose.

That's true, if you really know how to handle your money, even if you lose money from gambling, your life will never be wreck as long as you have discipline how/where will you use your money.
it is just wrecking your life because you don't know ow to control yourself, knowing your limitation and the purpose of why you are doing it would be the key factor in order to balance situation, making this for fun would not affect you but being addicted it will wrecked your life keep on trying to win back will results to lose everything but doing it for fun will allow you to easily forget the losses.
That is right, sometimes we lose control because we let our emotions take over our gambling, in gambling that kind of practice is a big no as any ventures even real business we should always use our head over our heart as heart is deceiving and we cannot succeed in the long run.

I think discipline and control to yourself is more likely the same. Right? I said earlier that "as long as you have discipline how/where will you use your money". Money and greediness are the keys why more people became addicted in gambling. So, if we have a discipline and control yourself and even your money, your life will never be ruin. That is just my opinion here.
Discipline will apply when you have the capability to follow your method in gambling, you bankroll management, your target winnings and lose at a given day. That should be diligently followed to be safe in gambling and if you have discipline you can follow it easily.
2477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: July 21, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
Smart way doesn't mean you'll always win, right? I think gambling in a smarter way is knowing how to handle a situation (i.e. when you lose or when you win) and how you manage yourself when playing (i.e. setting playing limitations, budget limitations). I agree for some who mentioned that you must limit your money, yes I think it's one right move to prevent losing everything. And another thing is setting to your mind what you must do next when you win/lose. Manage your time and money, set limitations and don't go beyond that.
If you are a gambler whose goal is to make money then smart way is what would result you profit. To be smart you need to study the type of gambling you will choose before you engage on it, evaluate yourself base on your skills if it will give you a great advantage that you can win.
2478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 21, 2016, 02:14:44 PM

Thats right and to minimize our loses try just to bet in small amount and you can actually win on several times of betting. In that case you gain a profit but not that big, but at least you didn't also lose huge amount and you still not a loser at the end.  Grin
There is actually no small or big in gambling because that depends on the gambler itself, if he can afford to bet more then that is just small to him and the most important to be safe is just to bet for the goal of having fun.
I don't think so, because for me, small bettors can win than to the big bettors in gambling, because Big bettor can lose money in a short time, while small bettors can win in a long run.  Grin
I think the bet small and large quantities are the same. Gambling still need luck so like whatever the stakes if we are lucky not to lose. If I prefer to bet a small amount because we can play and try more.
We should bet at the right amount that we think it would give us the thrill, betting small amount is less risky but you will not take gambling seriously and your be bored and end up losing, and the worst thing is you will still come back and if that loses will accumulate it will still total to a big amount.

Therefore we should play the right amount so we will give importance on every bet we will make.

I think doing a small bet is the thing that can make us to shy away from gambling, because we don't have a remarkable sensation when making small bets. If it is done with consistent without raising the amount bet, surely this way is perfect for those who want to get out of gambling
Betting with small bets seem like an action of disinterest in gambling and for me there is no sense in playing gambling anymore if you are just wasting your time and you are not getting any excitement in doing it. We actually play in gambling because we want to make money and have fun at the same time therefore when you don't achieve any of the two you are not enjoying gambling.
2479  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: July 21, 2016, 02:01:55 PM
your decision is right about not sell your any coin, its right time to hold your bitcoin because bitcoin rise up its price too much faster than other currency and more people investing their money in bitcoin .
Of course, never sell your coins when you see the price is slowly rising as it will have a good value in the future, however you should also be consistent in monitoring your investment so you could do sell it at the right time.

Slow rise means stability around that price so people can consider it as a buying rate if they want to take the risk to buy at that rate. And I agree with your last statement, don't just hold and hold as it will just take you for another round of holding resulting for more other days or even months of waiting. Just take part of every price rally to earn more when selling and to accumulate more when buying.
The good thing is it is really good to make day trading here in the crypto world as coins usually fluctuates that hard and if you know how to spot an opportunity you can easily make consistent money.

yeah trading allows us to make regular profits and I think we should take best advantage of price fluctuations and keep on growing our coins regularly.
Yeah! I agree with you, I am planning myself to also trade in altcoins as I see that they have great fluctuations also, I hope I can be successful with my venture. I would rather focus on trading than in gambling, it is the same risky thing but trading is way more better to spend my time with.
2480  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 21, 2016, 07:07:56 AM
Bitcoin is very stable nowdays, but it's just a calm before the storm, i am sure that something big will happen to bitcoin next month, it should blow our minds.



I agree that bitcoin nowadays are very stable at all and the price is quite stable $670+ and it is very promising that it is going to increase in the future.
Because we all know that bitcoin is going to keep rising in no time. And we are going to see it in the future.
With the effect of bitcoins price for sure.
This is also what happens in the previous, when the price becomes stable it usually pump in the succeeding periods, given that we have already see some huge fall back from $700+ to the current price and we have survive that, increase might occur again due to the effect of halving.
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