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2461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: February 22, 2016, 03:12:38 PM









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Insanity...


2462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 22, 2016, 06:17:58 AM
Trump will be quite happy with the results. He has gained all the 44 delegates declared so far, from South Carolina. The primaries in SC followed the "winner takes all" methodology, so everyone else got ZERO delegates. His next challenge will be to win the Nevada caucus on February 23. It will be tough. Jeb has dropped out of the race. So his votes will go to Rubio, and to a smaller extent to Kasich and Carson.

Just hope Trump will win the first step. Then Bernie Sanders will crush him ^^









By vomiting cheetos?



Mac and cheese

2463  Other / Politics & Society / 'World peace' hitcher is murdered on: February 22, 2016, 06:15:09 AM



An Italian woman artist who was hitch-hiking to the Middle East dressed as a bride to promote world peace has been found murdered in Turkey.

The naked body of Giuseppina Pasqualino di Marineo, 33, known as Pippa Bacca, was found in bushes near the northern city of Gebze on Friday.

She had said she wanted to show that she could put her trust in the kindness of local people.

Turkish police say they have detained a man in connection with the killing.

Reports say the man led the police to the body.

Autopsy

Ms di Marineo was hitch-hiking from Milan to Israel and the Palestinian Territories with a fellow artist on their "Brides on Tour" project.

They had separated in Istanbul, planning to reunite in Beirut.
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Ms di Marineo was last seen on 31 March in Gebze.

An Italian embassy official told the Associated Press news agency police tracked the man when he put a new SIM card into Ms di Marineo's mobile phone.

Local media identified the suspect only by the initials MK and said he had a previous conviction for theft.

Ms di Marineo's sister, who had gone to Turkey to look for her, identified the body. An autopsy is being conducted in Istanbul.

"Her travels were for an artistic performance and to give a message of peace and of trust, but not everyone deserves trust," another sister, Maria, told the Italian news agency, Ansa.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7344381.stm

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Kamikaze peace mission...


2464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stop with these topics on: February 22, 2016, 12:07:27 AM



The irony of someone called tyrantt telling us all how we should behave, on a forum dedicated to a protocol created to trust no king nor emperor, is pretty funny...

 Grin





2465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 21, 2016, 07:39:54 PM
'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'

How some university academics make the case for paedophiles at summer conferences


By Andrew Gilligan 9:10PM BST 05 Jul 2014
"Paedophilic interest is natural and normal for human males,” said the presentation. “At least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children … Normal males are aroused by children.”
Some yellowing tract from the Seventies or early Eighties, era of abusive celebrities and the infamous PIE, the Paedophile Information Exchange? No. Anonymous commenters on some underground website? No again.
The statement that paedophilia is “natural and normal” was made not three decades ago but last July. It was made not in private but as one of the central claims of an academic presentation delivered, at the invitation of the organisers, to many of the key experts in the field at a conference held by the University of Cambridge.
Other presentations included “Liberating the paedophile: a discursive analysis,” and “Danger and difference: the stakes of hebephilia.”
Hebephilia is the sexual preference for children in early puberty, typically 11 to 14-year-olds.

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Another attendee, and enthusiastic participant from the floor, was one Tom O’Carroll, a multiple child sex offender, long-time campaigner for the legalisation of sex with children and former head of the Paedophile Information Exchange. “Wonderful!” he wrote on his blog afterwards. “It was a rare few days when I could feel relatively popular!”
Last week, after the conviction of Rolf Harris, the report into Jimmy Savile and claims of an establishment cover-up to protect a sex-offending minister in Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet, Britain went into a convulsion of anxiety about child abuse in the Eighties. But unnoticed amid the furore is a much more current threat: attempts, right now, in parts of the academic establishment to push the boundaries on the acceptability of child sex.


Jimmy Savile exploited the trust of a nation for his own vile purposes
A key factor in what happened all those decades ago in the dressing rooms of the BBC, the wards of the NHS and, allegedly, the corridors of power was not just institutional failings or establishment “conspiracies”, but a climate of far greater intellectual tolerance of practices that horrify today.
With the Pill, the legalisation of homosexuality and shrinking taboos against premarital sex, the Seventies was an era of quite sudden sexual emancipation. Many liberals, of course, saw through PIE’s cynical rhetoric of “child lib”. But to others on the Left, sex by or with children was just another repressive boundary to be swept away – and some of the most important backing came from academia.
In 1981, a respectable publisher, Batsford, published Perspectives on Paedophilia, edited by Brian Taylor, a sociology lecturer at Sussex University, to challenge what Dr Taylor’s introduction called the “prejudice” against child sex. Disturbingly, the book was aimed at “social workers, community workers, probation officers and child care workers”.

The public, wrote Dr Taylor, “generally thinks of paedophiles as sick or evil men who lurk around school playgrounds in the hope of attempting unspecified beastliness with unsuspecting innocent children”. That, he reassured readers, was merely a “stereotype”, both “inaccurate and unhelpful”, which flew in the face of the “empirical realities of paedophile behaviour”. Why, most adult-child sexual relationships occurred in the family!
The perspectives of most, though not all, the contributors, appeared strongly pro-paedophile. At least two were members of PIE and at least one, Peter Righton, (who was, incredibly, director of education at the National Institute for Social Work) was later convicted of child sex crimes. But from the viewpoint of today, the fascinating thing about Perspectives on Paedophilia is that at least two of its contributors are still academically active and influential.

Prof Ken Plummer, left, and former PIE head Tom O'Carroll
Ken Plummer is emeritus professor of sociology at Essex University, where he has an office and teaches courses, the most recent scheduled for last month. “The isolation, secrecy, guilt and anguish of many paedophiles,” he wrote in Perspectives on Paedophilia, “are not intrinsic to the phenomen[on] but are derived from the extreme social repression placed on minorities …

“Paedophiles are told they are the seducers and rapists of children; they know their experiences are often loving and tender ones. They are told that children are pure and innocent, devoid of sexuality; they know both from their own experiences of childhood and from the children they meet that this is not the case.”
As recently as 2012, Prof Plummer published on his personal blog a chapter he wrote in another book, Male Intergenerational Intimacy, in 1991. “As homosexuality has become slightly less open to sustained moral panic, the new pariah of 'child molester’ has become the latest folk devil,” he wrote. “Many adult paedophiles say that boys actively seek out sex partners … 'childhood’ itself is not a biological given but an historically produced social object.”

Prof Plummer confirmed to The Sunday Telegraph that he had been a member of PIE in order to “facilitate” his research. He said: “I would never want any of my work to be used as a rationale for doing 'bad things’ – and I regard all coercive, abusive, exploitative sexuality as a 'bad thing’. I am sorry if it has impacted anyone negatively this way, or if it has encouraged this.” However, he did not answer when asked if he still held the views he expressed in the Eighties and Nineties. A spokesman for Essex University claimed Prof Plummer’s work “did not express support for paedophilia” and cited the university’s charter which gave academic staff “freedom within the law to put forward controversial and unpopular opinions without placing themselves in jeopardy”.
Graham Powell is one of the country’s most distinguished psychologists, a past president of the British Psychological Society and a current provider of psychology support services to the Serious Organised Crime Agency, the National Crime Squad, the Metropolitan Police, Kent Police, Essex Police and the Internet Watch Foundation.

In Perspectives on Paedophilia, however, he co-authored a chapter which stated: “In the public mind, paedophile attention is generally assumed to be traumatic and to have lasting and wholly deleterious consequences for the victim. The evidence that we have considered here does not support this view … we need to ask not why are the effects of paedophile action so large, but why so small.”
The chapter does admit that there were “methodological problems” with the studies the authors relied on which “leave our conclusions somewhat muted”. Dr Powell told The Sunday Telegraph last week that “what I wrote was completely wrong and it is a matter of deep regret that it could in any way have made things more difficult [for victims]”. He said: “The literature [scientific evidence] was so poor in 1981, people just didn’t realise what was going on. There was a lack of understanding at the academic level.” Dr Powell said he had never been a member of PIE.

In other academic quarters, with rather fewer excuses, that lack of understanding appears to be reasserting itself. The Cambridge University conference, on July 4-5 last year, was about the classification of sexuality in the DSM, a standard international psychiatric manual used by the police and courts.
After a fierce battle in the American Psychiatric Association (APA), which produces it, a proposal to include hebephilia as a disorder in the new edition of the manual has been defeated. The proposal arose because puberty in children has started ever earlier in recent decades and as a result, it was argued, the current definition of paedophilia – pre-pubertal sexual attraction – missed out too many young people.
Ray Blanchard, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto, who led the APA’s working group on the subject, said that unless some other way was found of encompassing hebephilia in the new manual, that was “tantamount to stating that the APA’s official position is that the sexual preference for early pubertal children is normal”.

Prof Blanchard was in turn criticised by a speaker at the Cambridge conference, Patrick Singy, of Union College, New York, who said hebephilia would be abused as a diagnosis to detain sex offenders as “mentally ill” under US “sexually violent predator” laws even after they had completed their sentences.
But perhaps the most controversial presentation of all was by Philip Tromovitch, a professor at Doshisha University in Japan, who stated in a presentation on the “prevalence of paedophilia” that the “majority of men are probably paedophiles and hebephiles” and that “paedophilic interest is normal and natural in human males”.
O’Carroll, the former PIE leader, was thrilled, and described on his blog how he joined Prof Tromovitch and a colleague for drinks after the conference. “The conversation flowed most agreeably, along with the drinks and the beautiful River Cam,” he said.

It’s fair to say the Tromovitch view does not represent majority academic opinion. It’s likely, too, that some of the academic protests against the “stigmatisation” of paedophiles are as much a backlash against the harshness of sex offender laws as anything else. Finally, of course, academic inquiry is supposed to question conventional wisdom and to deal rigorously with the evidence, whether or not the conclusions it leads you to are popular.
Even so, there really is now no shortage of evidence about the harm done by child abuse. In the latest frenzy about the crimes of the past, it’s worth watching whether we could, in the future, go back to the intellectual climate which allowed them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html



Jul 2014 = "Marches on" = Right now = Not old news




2466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 21, 2016, 07:34:11 PM



Up like reddit for Trump




https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/


 Smiley


2467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 21, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Trump will be quite happy with the results. He has gained all the 44 delegates declared so far, from South Carolina. The primaries in SC followed the "winner takes all" methodology, so everyone else got ZERO delegates. His next challenge will be to win the Nevada caucus on February 23. It will be tough. Jeb has dropped out of the race. So his votes will go to Rubio, and to a smaller extent to Kasich and Carson.

Just hope Trump will win the first step. Then Bernie Sanders will crush him ^^







2468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 21, 2016, 04:02:46 PM



Jeb! Bush Drops Out – “Tonight I Am Suspending My Campaign” (Video)






Jeb Bush dropped out of the presidential race tonight!
He thanked Lindsey Graham for his help. Jeb finished in fourth, maybe fifth tonight in South Carolina.
He thanked his mother and brother who came to help out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9TH3eaqiFQ






You Can't Stump the Trump Volume 16 (House of Guac)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4Ct-eRoB0


You Can't Stump the Trump Volume 17 (Goodbye, Guac Merchant)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDkxJu8WiE4



 Grin Cheesy Grin







2469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 21, 2016, 01:58:54 AM



Jeb! Bush Drops Out – “Tonight I Am Suspending My Campaign” (Video)






Jeb Bush dropped out of the presidential race tonight!
He thanked Lindsey Graham for his help. Jeb finished in fourth, maybe fifth tonight in South Carolina.
He thanked his mother and brother who came to help out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9TH3eaqiFQ



2470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 21, 2016, 01:54:48 AM
What rights are they trying to get with this movement?

None. It's not even a real movement...

This whole theard is just troll then or what?

More or less. That's an old thing that has neither power nor follower.
It's a bit like a strange secte, not dangerous cause too bizarre and small.

You clearly can't call that a movement!


Nambla is not a movement yet they do have demands.



We want girls!
Damn.
I mean boys! Yeah, that's it! (stupid mistake, so ashamed)


Children as a disposable commodity. Sick.

Obvious how clear what nambla members are pushing for, and strange how oblivious the gay lobby was (is?) regarding their objective.

... Or this is what some want us to believe.


2471  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 21, 2016, 01:13:21 AM
I just think it´s staggering. All life is based on plants and they love CO2. Which is supposed to be a major threat to civilization and probably the future of mankind. I just hope that these world savers don´t decide that the exhalation of CO2 by  humans and animals is such a threat to life that it necessitates mass extermination.

That's not the point...

H2O too is a base of life, but give it too much and it sinks everything...

Nature is a question of Balance.

The point is that idiots think that CO2 is some sort of pollution. They have that from somewhere. Maybe it´s in elementary school curriculum. It´s certainly seen in garbage media and they probably have it from some scientists.

It's pollution because it changes the way ecosystem works. That's the definition.

Trees love CO2

2472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 21, 2016, 01:11:52 AM
Donald Trump Wins South Carolina Republican Primary With Huge Lead

Melissa Cronin

20 minutes ago Filed to: TRUMP'D

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump edged out Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio to win the Republican primary on Saturday evening, giving us all a little more hope that the country and the world is headed for a slow and excruciating demise....

http://gawker.com/donald-trump-wins-south-carolina-republican-primary-wit-1760336209?rev=1456015330850&utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow




2473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 21, 2016, 01:06:27 AM
What rights are they trying to get with this movement?

None. It's not even a real movement...

This whole theard is just troll then or what?

More or less. That's an old thing that has neither power nor follower.
It's a bit like a strange secte, not dangerous cause too bizarre and small.

You clearly can't call that a movement!


Nambla is not a movement yet they do have demands.

2474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 20, 2016, 11:07:16 PM

I think the biggest/main difference is consent.
I just cannot think that a kid is mature enough to give his consent to sexual intercourse with an adult.

In contrast your examples are usually about sex methods used by consenting adults.
Yes, and that is all the difference in the world, though pedophiles will argue this to the hilt, that adolescents can consent.  Take a look at that chicken hawk documentary.  Some of these people are extremely delusional and as I said I'm not going to defend pedophilia.



That is why you have laws defending defenseless children and defining what a pedophile is...


Exactly.  That's what I'm saying.  I think what society probably needs to do is realize that for pedophiles it's not a choice (I don't think, anyway), that pedophiles need to be trained not to act on those impulses else there will be consequences.  But I don't believe in these extreme responses, like they all have to be killed or sterilized or whatever.  People used to--and some still do--think the same way about fags, trannys, horse-fuckers, blowjobbers, and everyone else.


Wasn't that the reason why nambla was a member of the gay lobby, until the gay lobby kicked all them out?

2475  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 20, 2016, 10:41:39 PM
This is a worrying signal. Already I am hearing some of the pro-LGBT activists arguing that the sexual preference for children is not a crime and it is a way of life. These people argue that pedophiles need rehabilitation and not punishment. I am not in favor of any of this. In my opinion, the pedos need to be removed from the society.

It's right, it's not a crime but a way of life. But it's a non compatible way of life with our societies xD
A bit like Shariah!

Nope. I can't still agree with you. It is not a way of life. IMO, pedophilia is a criminal activity. It has nothing to do with lifestyle. If we describe pedophilia as a way of life, then tomorrow rapists will claim that violent rape is their way of life, and they are compelled (or forced) to rape someone due to their mental condition.
That's great except for this exact reasoning has been applied to homosexuality, oral sex, being black, etc. etc.  If being a pedophile isn't a choice, then we have to acknowledge that.  It's the acting on it that's criminal.

This is typical.  I'm definitely not going to sit here and defend pedophilia but any discussion on the topic always turns into a contest to see who can be the most outraged.

I think the biggest/main difference is consent.
I just cannot think that a kid is mature enough to give his consent to sexual intercourse with an adult.

In contrast your examples are usually about sex methods used by consenting adults.


That is why you have laws defending defenseless children and defining what a pedophile is...

2476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 20, 2016, 10:38:54 PM
Unrelated, but interesting. What the heck is this? Pretty weird.

Strange Force Sweeps Over North America

An image taken by GOME shows a strange, pulsing force spreading across North America. What on Earth is it?


http://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/what-on-earth/what-on-earth-videos/strange-force-sweeps-over-north-america/




A message from god to trump and his supportes yo!
I heard jesus wanted to reincarnete this year again just to go vote for Donald j. Trump Grin


The MAGA Force Field...





Sure.





2477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 20, 2016, 07:01:25 PM
And what´s up with the President not attending the funeral of Scalia? Isn´t it a matter of routine for presidents to be present? I mean; these are seriously important people there in the S.C. Problems with the golf schedule?



Obama won’t go to Scalia’s funeral. Here are funerals he has — and hasn’t — attended.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/22/a-list-of-the-prominent-funerals-president-obama-has-and-has-not-attended/


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics#Robert_Byrd




2478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pope attacks Trump saying he is 'not Christian' on: February 20, 2016, 06:50:06 PM

Has anyone here ever been to the Vatican?

I've been there, and it's not a walled estate at all. It's more like a large meeting place, with restaurants, shops, a post office and museums. Nothing's closed. Most of the place is open to all. I mean you need to buy a ticket to get into the museum, there are staff only areas, and the free parking is for employees only, but you can get into the church for free, and no one asks you your ID. So it isn't like a border wall the way Trump's planning one.


Before the museum and the plastic gadgets made in china....

Today I Learn

Here's The Reason Walls Were Built Around The Vatican




Controversy continues to swirl around the apparent conflict between Pope Francis and Donald Trump, after the Pontiff implied that the billionaire's focus on building a wall on the Mexican border puts him at odds with the tenets of Christianity.

In Trump's defense, some have pointed to the fact that the Vatican City, the seat of papal authority, is itself surrounded by walls. However, this defense is being criticized by some on the left, who claim that the walls surrounding the Vatican are not analogous to those proposed to secure American borders.

In an article entitled "In Defense of Trump, Some Point (Wrongly) to Vatican Walls", write Liam Stack writes that Pope Leo IV built the walls around the Vatican "in an attempt to protect it from attacks by pirates and other marauders."

Indeed, the early walls that surrounded the Vatican became known as the Leonine wall in honor of the Pope responsible for their construction. Some of the Leonine wall still stands and makes up a portion of the structure that surrounds the Vatican to this day. But those walls were built with a far more specific enemy in mind than Stack lets on.

Leo built the walls in order to protect the city against the encroachment of "Saracens", an early term for the Arab Muslims who were hell bent on the conquest of Christian Europe. In 846, a year before the start of Pope Leo IV’s reign, the Saracens attacked the outskirts of Rome. The Muslim raiders targeted the Basilicas of St. Peter and St. Paul, which were located outside of the massive walls that defended Rome itself. The Saracens looted the two churches, robbing them of their relics and desecrating the tombs of two of Christendom’s most revered saints.

The 1910 Catholic Encyclopedia says that shortly after the raid, "[Pope Leo IV] began to take precautions against a repetition of the Saracen raid of 846. He put the walls of the city into a thorough state of repair, entirely rebuilding fifteen of the great towers. He was the first to enclose the hill by a wall." The walls that Pope Leo built, which were completed in 852, were nearly 40 feet high, twelve feet thick, and defended by dozens of towers that turned the site into a fortified city.

In response to Francis' criticism, Donald Trump, fittingly, noted that the Vatican remains a prime target for ISIS. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that the rampaging zealots of the Islamic State are the modern day successor of the conquest-minded Saracens of the 9th century.

Donald seems to have softened his tone with the Pope. At Thursday's CNN's townhall, Trump called Pope Francis "a wonderful guy".



http://www.hannity.com/articles/war-on-terror-487284/heres-the-reason-walls-were-built-14400553/


2479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 20, 2016, 06:38:07 PM
It seems really particularly a US problem.
Seems the USA is the last stronghold of (political) pedophiles :/


Specifically Hollyweird, CA

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/05/recent-charges-sexual-abuse-children-in-hollywood-just-tip-iceberg-experts-say/

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/05/hollywood-s-pedophilia-epidemic-exposed-in-an-open-secret.html

As the thread title says: "Marches on..."





2480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 20, 2016, 06:33:53 PM





https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/701084443889381377



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