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2481  Economy / Economics / Re: A bubble is when price is not justified on: May 24, 2021, 05:16:28 PM
All assets based on scarcity are "in the bubble" because of price inflation, government print more and more money. The result is, everyone gets more money, but the assets supply isn't increasing.

Also, prices are based on perception so it's always "not justifiable" in the sense of everyone cannot value assets the same. The discrepancy in stocks, for example, aren't as wide as BTC because they have net income as the main expectation-reality binder.

Combine the (1) inflation and (2) expectation, you will get the mother of all bubbles.
2482  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Apakah trend "multi-chain" adalah masa depan kripto? on: May 24, 2021, 02:37:47 PM
Kalau dahulu deposit/withdrawal berada di jaringan masing-masing, misalnya BTC ya di jaringan BTC, ETH di jaringan ETH, dst. Sekarang beberapa penyedia jasa sudah mulai menggunakan jaringan yang berbeda. Bisa jadi membingungkan buat newbie.

Contoh 1


Contoh 2


Contoh 3


Apakah masa depan kripto akan seperti ini? Mau pakai USDT misalnya akan disuruh memilih berbagai macam jaringan yang berbeda, sekarang mungkin hanya ada 3 yang populer, yaitu TRX, BSC, dan ETH. Nanti kedepan bisa jadi tambah banyak... Masalahnya generasi yang bukan milenial/gen-z bakalan bingung kalau tren ini akan terus berlanjut. Setup multikoin wallet, memahami jaringan yang berbeda, memastikan tidak salah kirim. OMG.
2483  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Rollbit.com | King of Trading ~ Trading Game Competition - $1000 up for grabs! on: May 24, 2021, 12:44:34 PM
masnakamoto
2484  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: mana yg lebih untung : Trading coin vs Hold coin on: May 24, 2021, 07:09:56 AM
Saat pasar bearish seperti sekarang ini saya rasa banyak orang yang awalnya Holder ( Investor ) Berubah menjadi Trader
Keknya kebalik deh, biasanya trader yang nyangkut lalu berubah jadi investor wkw



By the way, kalo punya skill menganalisis jangka pendek keknya lebih berasa leveraged trading kek di platform juday bisa sampai 1.000x leverage. Cara mudah dapat cuan kalau untung, cara mudah juga miskin kalau buntung. Dari segi max opit keknya cara ini yang paling bisa mendatangkan untung besar dalam waktu singkat.
2485  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Trade Race Manager - "A new era of trading gamified by race" didukung DeFi & NFT on: May 24, 2021, 06:58:54 AM
Ane lihat di forum sebelah sudah banyak scam yang nawarin IOI token palsu, hati-hati guys pastikan tokennya asli:
ETH: 0x8B3870Df408fF4D7C3A26DF852D41034eDa11d81
Polygon: 0xAF24765F631C8830B5528B57002241eE7eef1C14

@roycilik siap jadi samsak kalau gak jadi, itu yang nyebar rumor huo huo kan dia ~XD.
Ingat 90% rumor dari saya itu bisa di bilang valid dan bakal terjadi, kapan? Ya tunggu aja, namanya juga rumor Grin
Gimana nih dengan market yang merah-merah, masih optimis to the moon? Cheesy
When binance?
2486  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: May 24, 2021, 06:49:32 AM
Try again later or use different ISP, it may work there.

Did you try using another browser?
It's fine today. It seems IP related issue, not browser one. Thanks!



I bought the dip lol, and it seems FUN token also really cheap atm, but the fees are not fun at all! I hope we can deposit/withdraw using cheaper network, such as BSC. 338 FUN to withdraw is such a waste for a casual user.
2487  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: May 23, 2021, 03:21:36 PM
Does anyone get this error?



I tried to access the site since this morning, but no luck...
2488  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 23, 2021, 03:17:54 PM
Bener om, jika diukur berdasarkan pandangan jangka panjang maka trend tetap positif. Tapi ane yang baru invest lagi dari 2020 sudah cukup dalam terkoreksi. Mental positif boleh tapi kalo jadi ampas mau bilang apa. Apa masih tetap dengan strategi hold? Belum 24 jam saja, market cap cripto hilang ratusan milyar USD. Bukan jumlah uang kecil untuk pasar, bahkan untuk rebound butuh para whales untuk belanja di harga diskon seperti ini. Ya per hari ini saja 286 B USD hilang, dan per harinya ada ratusan yang hilang sejak seminggu ini. Bukankan untuk yang traders jangka pendek ini salah satu peringatan ? Bukan begitu om? CMIIW
Ya kalok trader jangka pendek memang harus memanage risiko jangan sampai nyangkut terlalu dalam, kan ane berulang kali bilang kalau "crypto adalah investasi berisiko super tinggi" jadi ya harus dimanage risikonya dengan pasang stop loss.

Kalau holder jangka panjang yang berpengalaman tentu sudah serok di ~$6k - ~$10k dan jual di harga tinggi jadi sudah opit. Mereka sedang menunggu diskon lagi baru mulai beli, ada juga yang sudah mulai pasang beli. Katanya di thread S2F, harga jatuh sampai $28k itu masih normal (disclaimer on).

Kalok yang beli di ~45k++ itu yang mungkin berat harus menunggu agak lama kalau penerawangan ane. Hanya saja asalkan tren jangka panjangnya masih tidak berubah, nanti juga harga BTC naik lagi lebih tinggi kek di grafik tsb.
2489  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off! on: May 21, 2021, 11:13:13 AM
1. Genocide is evil, doesn't matter if you want it on Arab, Jew, Asian, etc., no modern day sane person will support a genocide. If you support a genocide, you are evil.
2. Distinguish between the people and the government. For example, I hate Chinese Communist Party (CCP), but I don't hate Chinese people. Israeli government may be evil, but the average Joes aren't necessarily evil.
2490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 21, 2021, 10:47:17 AM
I think you should spread your luck with us so we can experience some 4000x payouts.
Cheesy

How about DOA2? must be conquered by him, agree?
It is miles too far if you start from 5,000x and then jump to 100,000x+ max-win. Plus, no replay feature on Netent AFAIK, so it would be waste. But, considering we talk about the Slot Emperor, anything can happen to him.

I feel that playing game with lower max payout is better.
Better means easier, yes I think so. BUT, imagine you play DOA 2 and get 100,000x win. 0.09$*100,000 = $9,000
Hmmmm... tasty!
2491  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ JacksClub.io ✨ Daily Contest with Amazing Prices | VIP Rewards | Free Faucet on: May 21, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
$1 bonus buy would be the cheapest buy bonus ever in the industry unless I miss there is any other slot games with that low buy bonus.
For a game like Sweet Bonanza, $1 is too low if you ask me.
Perhaps $5 would be an ideal price for average gambler, at least it gives an alternative for those who want to play Sweet Bonanza but they cant afford to pay $20 for the buy bonus.
The bonus buy is based on the base bet, so if the game can have 1 sat minimum bet, they can set the bonus buy with 200x minimum bet (hence 200 sats) or whatever. Yeah it's too low, but that's the nature of hash games.

Another advantage is you can vary your base bet to get the dollar amount that suitable for your taste.
2492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Arbitration judge orders Fury vs Wilder 3rd fight on: May 21, 2021, 08:21:40 AM
Plot twist, Wilder wins against Fury, reclaims his belt, and he then challenges AJ.

Just kidding.

If nothing significantly changes for both fighters, Fury will win again. Regarding the judge's decision, I think it's correct because they cannot turn down rematch clause just because of the pandemic.
2493  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Scam Dengan Modus Wanita Cantik di Aplikasi Dating on: May 21, 2021, 05:47:00 AM
Jujur saja saya tidak pernah dan tidak akan pernah menggunakan Aplikasi-Aplikasi Yang Useless Seperti Tinder dan Lainnya.
Tinder juga bisa dipakai untuk yang suka sesama jenis kok wkwkw



Anyway, mungkin bedanya dengan yang telegram atau wa, dari video dikatakan kalau kebanyakan yang sukses adalah yang bermain "long game" alias bisa lama chattingnya, jadi temen dulu, baru kemudian beraksi. Bisa dibayangkan kalau seminggu atau sebulan sudah chatting mesra pastinya "firewall" mereka sudah down.

Banyak yang kena karena mereka ga nyangka bakal disekem.
2494  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Share]Tidak Ada Yang Masuk Diakal Lagi (The Simpsons) on: May 20, 2021, 06:07:08 PM
Setelah menonton episode itu saya pun mulai berpikir tentang Bitcoin dan Altcoin dimana Bitcoin pada charts mingguan belum pernah melakukan pullback ke area EMA 21 sejak dump terakhir di area $10k sekitar agustus-september tahun lalu, sedangkan Altcoin pada charts mingguan sudah tiang-tiang semua.
Dimana bullrun tahun ini adalah bullrun terpanjang sejauh dari tahun 2011 (pada charts BITSTAMP).
Jauh banget cocokloginya kalau dikaitkan dengan BTC.

1. Bitcoin belum legal, jadi kita belum merasakan bagaimana kehidupan dengan Bitcoin sebagai alat pembayaran. Apalagi fenomena "culture shock" dan "nostalgia" yang dipertontonkan di adegan film tersebut. Dulu beli ganja itu cool, sekarang sudah tidak cool.
2. Koreksi harga akan selalu terjadi, cuma kita tidak bisa tahu kapan.
2495  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Scam Dengan Modus Wanita Cantik di Aplikasi Dating on: May 20, 2021, 05:49:36 PM
Pertama-tama ane tidak familiar dengan aplikasi macam Tinder dan sebangsanya karena usia sudah tidak lagi pantas untuk menggoda wanita-wanita cantik. Sehingga ane tidak tahu apakah di Indonesia modus semacam ini juga terjadi. Kemudian kejadian-kejadian ini juga tidaklah baru sehingga maaf apabila sharing berita yang gak update. Thread ini dibuat karena ane tadi menonton video tentang scam yang terjadi di China menggunakan modus profil-profil wanita cantik.

Apa yang terjadi?
Scammer menggunakan profil wanita cantik di Tinder sebagai shill altcoin abu. Setelah match, tersangka dan korban kemudian chatting. Pada awalnya sih tidak terlihat gelagat bahwa si tersangka adalah scammer. Chatting terlihat normal dan mungkin menjurus ke erotis (eh). Setelah nyaman barulah si tersangka bercerita tentang opit-opitnya trading di suatu market kripto dan bagaimana ia mendapatkan insider trading sehingga bisa mendapat opit dengan mudah. Kemudian korban akan digiring untuk berinvestasi di altcoin abu dan tidak menyadari kalau sudah ditifu.

- Apakah agan-agan di sini yang main aplikasi dating sudah pernah mengalami modus seperti ini?
- Kalau belum tahu modus ini, mohon kabari ke kerabat terdekat. Thanks!

Solusi
Selain jangan percaya celebritis macam Elon Musk, agan sebaiknya jangan percaya dengan wanita cantik. Kata di film silat "Golok Pembunuh Naga" dulu, "Wanita semakin cantik itu semakin berbahaya."

Jangan percaya juga dengan pria yang menyamar menjadi wanita Grin
2496  Economy / Economics / Re: Will China take over the world with the Digital Yuan? on: May 20, 2021, 03:12:42 AM
Nonetheless, we cannot deny China's ambitions in becoming the most powerful nation in the world. It's now the second-largest economy in the world, rivaling the United States in every way. The US Dollar is still the world's reserve currency, but we all know that nothing lasts forever. Some say that China will be able to "bypass" US sanctions with a digital currency of its own. Imagine what will happen in the future if the US becomes reluctant in launching its own "digital dollar" to the public. It'll become a laughing stock as other countries gain all of the advantage. Only then, China will rule the world becoming the biggest economic superpower with the "Digital Yuan". Just my thoughts Grin
You watch too many CCP propaganda mate. China (country) is not as strong as you think. That's because communism always ends up hurting itself. Do you think overfishing, polluting the environment, sweatshop, etc. are a sustainable model? Nope, it will collapse. CCP's economy will collapse.

And CCP is not only rude to the US, but also the rest of the world. No way people will touch the Digital Yuan.
2497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 20, 2021, 02:51:18 AM
^Not sure what to comment about this 4th 5,000x win other than congratulations!
I know roycilik got busted many times tried to reproduce this result, so I wouldn't dare to touch it Grin

Should I stop playing this game and move to other games or keep trying to get another max payout (maybe with bigger base bet)?  Grin
IMO it would be better if try to get a 10,000x since 5,000x is like a child play to you. Plus, I rarely see a 10,000x win, so a nice 10,000x replay would be appreciated.
2498  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✨ JacksClub.io ✨ Daily Contest with Amazing Prices | VIP Rewards | Free Faucet on: May 19, 2021, 05:31:45 PM
It's so quiet here, how's the progress on adding slots games? I hope it's not powered by SoftSwiss since lately I get no luck playing on any SoftSwiss powered casino. *maybe it's just a superstition...

Perhaps they can add "buy feature" for the Sugar Rush slot.
Since the game is a copy of Sweet Bonanza where there are so many players playing Sweet Bonanza with buy bonus, then I guess it will attract those SB lovers to try Sugar Rush.
It will be the first provably fair slot with buy bonus feature IMO and it will be more attractive if the cost of buy feature is cheaper since the min bet in this Sugar rush is also much lower than SB.
Nice suggestion, Imagine $1 bonus buy for Sweet Bonanza-like slots Grin
2499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto-Casinos and KYC on: May 19, 2021, 05:04:58 PM
In many countries, such as in Russia, it was until recently possible to buy SIM cards which were not registered to a specific person. They were not even sold on the black market, but on regular public marketplaces in huge quantities.
True.

I don't think that passing the first level makes any sense for a gambling site.
If the user only deposit like, let's say, <$100 a month, it makes little sense to collect his personal data more than aforementioned lv1. What will he do with his <$100? Launder money? Yes, he can create multiple accounts but at the expense of a sim card, and sim card is traceable anyway, so law enforcers still can pinpoint his location.
2500  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Trade Race Manager - "A new era of trading gamified by race" didukung DeFi & NFT on: May 19, 2021, 04:51:58 PM
Agan Ryzadit emang IMBA, bisa menang dua mobil sekaligus. Padahal satu padepokan berguru sama roycilik tapi nasibnya beda ma ane. Cheesy
Gimana ini jadi listing ga ya? Rasanya serem kalau mau listing pas marketnya babak belur...

token yang berada di ETH chain lebih enak trading di CEX Exchange karena tau sendiri UNISWAP trading fee nya luar biasa.
Yang ada di ETH chain gak guna, ETH gak guna Grin
Sekali transfer bisa puluhan dollar kalau token di ETH.

+1 buat di Matic Network aja, kalo bisa +BSC lalu listing di Binance.
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