Honestly, I'm waiting for the first person to 'skywrite' "Hello" or a smiley-face in there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I don't know what these are for, just the pattern caught my interest. It could just be someone's personal mixing algorithm sending to different wallets, laundering for some other purpose, or whatever. I only put this thread out there to see if someone would say "Yeah, I know who is doing that - no big deal." It still isn't that big of a deal, but the amounts are sure interesting...
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Update: Seeing the same 9k 'snake trail' pattern again.
Timestamp: 08:14 UTC
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I was a young teenager at the time; but I was really excited when windows 95 came out. I imagine the DOS -> Windows transition had a lot of people smiling as well.
Et tu Brute? DOS to which Windows? 3.1? If you were still using DOS when 95 came out you must have been living in a special cave where no Amiga, Mac, by then even Linux existed for years (or you had no friends and whatever dad bought for work was the universe, no offense). Those systems were out for up to 11 years earlier and in various ways still/already superior. 95 was a special horror in many ways but this isn't the place for that (woe onto support). 3.1 even more so (extreme productivity loss through massive slowdown and instability compared to DOS). If you do mean 1.0, *facepalm* Nesico, how about shutting your pie-hole. You obviously don't know jack about how computing was at that time, or you'd just 'eff off. Yeah, I'm serious.
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Awww... can't we do the airship instead?
As long as you could periodically connect to the internet, why not ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That is the main question here. Also, I'd look out for trying this anywhere that would be threatened by a potential 'new sovereign state' in their midst. Even if you don't mean it to be, it could be taken as such. I do like the mental exercise though. Really comes down to where can you hit the net (without satellite) and still be out of range of greedy sovereigns?
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Its old holders dumping blocks of BTC and trying to avoid crashing the market at the same time. Ive suspected for two days this was happening and my guess is that MT.gox is assisting in the process. A big holder said "I want out above 19", and now the system is being jobbed to make those trades slowly over these past days, and flatline the market. My guess is that the order book is being jobbed, slipping the order of trades. This "trading" is far from normal. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Just to be clear, the blue dots are peer-to-peer transactions, not exchange trades. Those are in red. So, someone is transferring to another wallet which may or may not be under their control. Given the volume, I'd guess they do own the destination since the pattern repeated so much. I still have no idea why, there has to be a less visible way to go about it.
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The price will stay below $22 for the next week, followed by a slow creep up to 28-30 in two weeks. Use those numbers and tell me what happens ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm also very curious to see if total tera-hash/sec capacity increases, or if outright buy-and-hold does. Perhaps in the absence of large sell blocks, we can look forward to a bit of a plateau? Appreciate the numbers as always, chodpaba!
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Just a quick update - 23:50 UTC the pattern has resumed. Back to watching the 'skies'. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I like keeping http://www.bitcoinmonitor.com/ open and looking at the transactions fly by. Been doing this for a few weeks. Recently noticed a high 'altitude' (it gets charted by how many bitcoins, so the higher you are - the larger the transaction), 'snakes' or trails of patterns that have lasted over two hours. The pattern is quite interesting, starting below 9k then slowly arcing up past 10,000 BTC. Here's a shot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2487%2F5837506958_458859eecf_b.jpg&t=663&c=sjcIOwnux3cnxQ) I have no idea what these repeating transactions mean, but I thought I'd put it out there for everyone to take a look. Update: Could be simply coincidence, but the pattern stopped within minutes of my post... curiouser and curiouser...
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Can somebody answer me this question....
I see all this talk about how people selling their btc makes the value go down.
Why?
I could understand if there was in fact a central place buying up the coins per-se. But isn't MTGOX simply filling orders that other users have on the books with them? If somebody sells 100k btc, that means somebody is buying 100k btc, right?
So.. somebody please tell me where my logic is flawed.
If in your example, there was an order to buy 100k near that offer, yes - it would cross and not really move anything. It's really all about the order book. You are right, your order is on the opposite 'side' of anyone elses, and you are matched to the closest bid/offer. Where order depth comes into play is what 'moves' price. (This also assumes you've put in a market order and not a limit order.) Your order simply takes out all the offers if you are buying, or the bids if you are selling - depending on how many are at each price level. Hope that helps.
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Fixed article; no more trolling to be had.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
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I know this could probably be gamed if the question pool was too small, but it would be an interesting experiment. My suggestion is this:
What if to shorten your wait time by 'n' amount, you had to answer correctly some factual questions about bitcoin? That would serve two purposes, educate those that need to learn, frustrate any potential troll since you are forcing them to read about the subject and comprehend it.
I suppose you could formulate some questions based on the wiki and serve them up randomly from a given pool. Just a thought. Not sure if the forum could even support that kind of functionality.
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There was apparently a fake article on this sorry for the scare.
Feel free to edit the topic of your thread then with the correction. Us non-alarmists would appreciate it.
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I heard this want to know if this is true or if there are any confirmed sources. I am a bit worried if this is true and I really hope its some dumb conspiracy.
Could you possibly elaborate? That is, if you aren't completely mental.
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Most slashdotters hate bitcoin, and that amuses me greatly. They may have technical chops, but they aren't so great at spotting the next big thing. (Like the iPod.)
Thanks for alerting us to the story post.
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Did some basic 'net research and their server is regged via RIPE to a contact in Bulgaria. At least they didn't try to host it in the US.
I do agree caution is needed, but I think there's enough there to try some fractional trades just to kick the tires.
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Not bad, just correct a few typos on the site.
There are two companies involved - one in Las Vegas, Nevada and the other in Bulgaria. It is in their 'about' section.
Fees seem to be 0.57% round-turn, and there is a referral program.
Be interesting to see how it operates.
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That is really cool. We need more parties to step forward like this. I think they'd be pleasantly surprised at the response.
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Moby Bit Moby BTC Update: After thinking about it, you could just condense it to MoBTC, so phonetically it sorta works ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You know, after that story we were all forced to read in school ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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What everyone seems to miss in the past correction and subsequent rise in value is bitcoin has already demonstrated its resiliency in the face of outright panic. For whatever reason, those that dumped their btc haven't been able to push it under the 10 - 15 range. This means something in the longer-term.
Again, if it was a 'bubble' (which is a term so many people over-use without even knowing what the hell it is), we'd be sitting here all shocked at how we're under dollar parity and trading at 0.50. This did not happen. If the big size orders were going to slam the market down, it would've been during the decline -- and it wouldn't have stopped, if this market was truly all vapor and hype.
It isn't.
The idea isn't.
This technology has the potential to change the world, and I can't stand those with simple constitutions or lack of trading discipline selling bitcoin short. If you don't agree, then please - liquidate, I could certainly use the bargain.
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Price limits, circuit breakers, these things don't stop market forces, only delay them. Just let the market trade, you know - without regulation. Bitcoin should be traded as freely as the currency itself.
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