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2481  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Article about the blockchain and Bitcoin scaling. on: July 27, 2019, 10:28:29 PM
LN will never be solution

That's why it's not the only avenue being explored.  No one is saying that Lightning is going to magically solve all our problems and we don't need to look at anything else.


To solve the huge number o information in all network there is another solution, we start to delete 1st blocks of blockchain after some number of blocks, example GENESIS block can be deleted and the money still in that address can be reward for miners

If you can find support for it, go right ahead.  Count me out, though.  I've seen enough iterations of "hey, let's steal old coins and put them back into circulation" threads to know that only a few well-intentioned-but-ultimately-misinformed fools want that.
2482  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Article about the blockchain and Bitcoin scaling. on: July 27, 2019, 09:55:37 AM
We basically know what all the existing options are for scaling (barring any new technological leaps or discoveries) and, for me at least, I'm comfortable in the knowledge there are people working on each option and that they're being implemented in order of preference with the aim of preserving decentralisation.  People can get fixated on the options they can easily understand, but it doesn't mean that's the best option right now.  There's a pretty clear order of priority in terms of where we can increase throughput without centralising the network, so it's only natural we're pursuing those ones first.  People just need to take a step back, look at the bigger picture and chill out a bit.  

You can say "but, but blocksize", "but, but faster block speed", etc, but it's not like we're hearing anything new.  We know those things exist.  The cost/benefit ratio has already been evaluated and wasn't deemed a priority.  Hence other options taking precedence and being actively developed first.  If we need to resort to those options with a higher cost, we can consider that later.
2483  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: July 25, 2019, 01:32:22 PM
90 % or evenv more of this forum users do not know, how to add someone to their trust list.

Possibly true, but that doesn't mean we should take the option away from the other 10%. If anything we need to encourage more people to use custom lists.

On which note, I'll crosslink this thread about adding buttons on users' sidebars to make that easier.
2484  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2019-07-23 Fox Business - BAC CEO, Anonymous Crypto Currencies are not good on: July 25, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
The ability to monitor their customers, whether it is for their own benefit or as an agent of a government, is extremely valuable to a bank. They will fight anything that reduces that value, such as the ability to transact anonymously.

Yep, and it's not just restricted to banks monitoring your financial activity, but businesses and "Big Data" in general.  Your data is valuable and these companies all want it.  Permission for marketing, selling your details to other companies, cookies, etc.  It's all potential revenue to them.  The less you give out, the better.
2485  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2019-07-23 Fox Business - BAC CEO, Anonymous Crypto Currencies are not good on: July 24, 2019, 06:52:55 PM
Quote
Bank of America CEO: Anonymous currencies are not good

Not good for whom, exactly?   Cheesy

Let's be honest, I don't think there's a single thing any of us do here that a bank CEO will find favourable.  But I'd ask this CEO to look at it from our perspective.  Too big to fail banks are not good for us.  Casino-style derivatives trading is not good for us.  You banksters had your chance and you fucked it royally.  Your failure was our opportunity.  You've brought this upon yourselves.


It will be a very problematic discussion in the future. On the one hand, there are governments that use the argument that cryptocurrencies can be used for crime and terrorist financing and so they must be properly regulated and oblige people to do KYC, But how will coins like the monero survive? In a world where every day exchanges are demanding KYC and governments are exerting regulatory pressure, is there any future for anonymous currencies like monero?

My general assumption is that it'll only be problem in the near future.  I hold the rather optimistic view that Exchanges as a concept are on borrowed time, mostly as a relic of traditional finance.  The only reason they exist is because they make facilitating large volumes of trade relatively easy, but their centralised nature makes them weak.  I believe that, as technology evolves and things like smart contracts and atomic swaps between various blockchains become commonplace, a time will come when low frequency users (i.e. anyone except day traders) won't need to use centralised exchanges anymore.  Hopefully most people will be able to obtain some amount of any given cryptocurrency with their fiat before regulations become too restrictive.  After that, I can foresee a future where users will be able to execute buy and sell orders directly in their wallet, peer to peer, without a middleman.  

I'm pretty confident that the tech will outpace the regulation and they won't be able to keep up with our advances as trading currencies (hopefully) becomes as simple as sending a transaction.  The potential is pretty crazy when you think about it.
2486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin usage and misaligned expectations on: July 24, 2019, 01:15:37 PM
But no one is doing that job except for a few users, like Doomad, because of fear of going into a long debate against "smart" and intimidating people in the forum like franky1. Roll Eyes
Instead of calling out names, I feel that what one person can achieve with their own efforts is more important than seeing what the rest of the opposing team is doing. Truely, false propaganda cannot be curbed, because they do it for their own benefit and stopping it means taking away freedom of speech. Focus on what you can do and not what others say about you or your work. Wink


It's OK for Roger Ver, and his sockpuppets, to misinform, gaslight, and continue their fraudulent behavior because "freedom of speech"? What about OUR freedom of speech.

I'd say we do enough with our freedom of speech.  We call them out on their shenanigans and it seems to work for the most part.  Hopefully only a very small number of people still go away with the wrong impression after we've intervened to combat any FUD.  It's not the easiest job sometimes, but it keeps us in good practice for when the next troll inevitably appears.
2487  Other / Meta / Re: Trust flags on: July 23, 2019, 10:14:26 AM
Old
Quote
   Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade.
    Neutral - Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score.
    Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

New
Quote
   Positive - You think that this person is unlikely to scam anyone.
    Neutral - Other comments.
    Negative - You think that trading with this person is high-risk. You might also be able to add a flag.

Until now, I only focused on the changed description for Negative feedback and didn't really notice how Positive changed. I used to use my non-DT1 account to leave feedback on successful deals, but under the current description, I can't do that anymore.

I hadn't noticed it either, but it's a good change.  Common sense would suggest that one single trade isn't sufficient for positive trust.  A scammer could easily make one legitimate trade to gain trust before attempting to rip several people off, exploiting their new-found reputation.  It should take time to build up trust, making numerous trades without issue.  Neutral feedback is perfectly adequate for acknowledging individual successful trades.
2488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: which type of blockchain you think will solve scalability, on: July 21, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
If you just care about transactions per second, you shouldn't use nano, but Visa. Faster more reliable and stable, tested, etc
If you care about decentralization,  really being the owner of your funds, and giving back financial power to individuals, bitcoin no doubt.

Scalability is just a problem to be solved if people are using the network. People are not using nano or bch

what load of shit in your post.

transactions per second its the most important metric in this field ask any expert in blockchain, how you want to replace visa if it not scale.

this is what experts try to solve, so much bullshit in your post and sorry to say you far away from be educated in this space for sure.

if crypto wanna be main stream its must to scale the tps, imagine only the cars in the usa pay for gas/fuel in crypto on a basis how much  transactions per second it will be.

You appear to be missing some of the nuance being explained to you here.  There are compromises that need to be made if you place all your focus on maximising the number of transactions per second.  Scaling carries certain costs to bear.  The first thing which some people tend to sacrifice in favour of raw speed is decentralisation.  But those of us who understand Bitcoin do not want to sacrifice decentralisation.  As bitmover said, being in control of your funds and not having barriers to transact with other users is vital.  Those are not qualities we would ever want to lose.

If you think TPS is the only important thing, that's your prerogative, but you'll find that many won't agree with that.  And because Bitcoin is consensus based, the people who value decentralisation will continue to run the code that preserves decentralisation.  If people wanted what you want, that wouldn't be the case.  This puts you in the minority, which is not generally known for being a position where you get to assert your preference on development.
2489  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-11] Trump apparently knows what Bitcoin is, and he doesn’t like it on: July 21, 2019, 09:43:22 AM
Trump seems to be a big blocker. He wants to make Bitcoin with big blocks great again, for onchain use first.

And from which parts of his words do you infer that notion?  Besides, there's already a fork or two with big blocks and they don't seem all that great to me.
2490  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Significant Decimal Precision on: July 20, 2019, 12:20:16 PM
So, if the base protocol may, given consensus, be upgraded at some point take on the additional decimal places to accommodate settling LN millisats to the blockchain, we'd have the option at that point of extending the halvings as well.  Worth considering, I guess.  I'm sure miners won't have any complaints, heh.
2491  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Significant Decimal Precision on: July 19, 2019, 02:33:41 PM
I hear this mythical date in 2140 when we find the last scrap.. but does it have to be.. if only we could keep halving.. for-EVER!
You'll be adding an ever smaller number of Bitcoins per block. There's no point increasing the total Bitcoin supply by - say - 0.00000000000001% per block. The limited supply is by design, and it's one of the things that makes Bitcoin better than fiat.

It would still take some time to exceed the 21 million cap, though.  My understanding was that currently there will never be more than 20999999.9769 BTC in circulation (or technically 20999949.9769 BTC due to the unspendable genesis block).  Adding more decimal places and dealing with sub-satoshi units would not create enough extra BTC to make up for the 2310000 satoshi shortfall for many years, if ever.

//EDIT:  Unless my math is wrong, which I'm starting to think it is.

//DOUBLE_EDIT:  Nope, seems okay:

20999999.97690000
+
(210000 blocks x .5 satoshi) 0.00105000
=
20999999.97795000
+
(210000 blocks x .25 satoshi) 0.00052500   
=
20999999.97847500
+
(210000 blocks x .125 satoshi) 0.00026250
=
20999999.97873750
+
(210000 blocks x .0625 satoshi) .00013125
=
20999999.97886875
+
(210000 blocks x .03125 satoshi) .000065625  (nine decimal places)
=
20999999.978934375  (nine decimal places)

So yeah, that's another ~20 years without crossing 21 million BTC and I'm sure if I kept going, it's okay for some time, or possibly forever.
2492  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2019-07-18 CNBC - Mnuchin says Treasury will ensure bitcoin doesn’t become ‘Swis on: July 18, 2019, 05:28:10 PM
I wish him the best of luck in his endeavours.  He's only about 10 years too late.  All my addresses are known only to me until I use them to send or receive a payment.  And even then, if I'm careful, it may not be feasible to tie those addresses to my real-word identity.

Also, when he realises his precious little Treasury doesn't, in fact, police the entire world and everything in it, maybe he can come back with some more sensible comments.

You aren't regulating shit, Steven.   Cheesy
2493  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A Bitcoin based corporation? on: July 18, 2019, 12:34:35 PM
Working for various seasteading companies we did not quite fit into the square box of incorporation that other companies can deal with. An international company, not really planning on doing anything in any nation with international investors and employees.

If I take this to mean you're not giving up on the seasteading concept, then I'm pleased to hear it.  But in terms of fitting into one of those neat little square boxes that regulators are so fond of, I suspect anything related to Bitcoin, or crypto in general, is going to make that a more difficult task.  Most countries don't have legislation that would naturally encompass any attempt at creating a "Digital Autonomous Company" (which I think is what you're talking about here, but please correct me if I'm wrong).
2494  Other / Archival / Re: It's time Flying Hellfish to go on: July 17, 2019, 12:51:33 PM
Bobby Kennedy's Speech for Humanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fArgCaFb1c <- Listen 1 minute, what is the first liberty this man mentions FREEDOM OF SPEECH and he means for all of the people.

Does freedom of SPEECH apply to a forum?  After all, there are very different laws and penalties for the written and spoken word.

It should apply anywhere and everywhere if you are a decent being, pretty simple treat others how you would like to be treated, you silence people here, they will silence you there.

While there's certainly a great deal I could question about your post, I'll stick with this part for the sake of brevity.

Imagine the roles were reversed and the OP was the owner of these boards and someone posted page after page of largely the same thoughts or ideas, to the point where a majority of the recent topics were theirs and the sheer volume of posts is starting to drown out other users.  Are you telling me they wouldn't want to prune some of the more egregious repeats?  Maybe let some other users get a word in edgeways?  Where would you draw the line on consecutive multiposting?

It's not about trying to "silence" the OP, it's about making sure they aren't making so much noise that it effectively silences other users.

It's why they're called "moderators" and not "silencers".  They moderate discussion to keep it fair and open.
2495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will institutional investors going to buy masses of Bitcoin? on: July 16, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
Without the aid of a crystal ball or a time machine, no one is going to give you a definitive answer on that one.

Personally, as someone who isn't a day-trader, I'd prefer they stay away for as long as possible. 
2496  Other / Archival / Re: It's time Flying Hellfish to go on: July 15, 2019, 08:45:03 AM
free·dom of speech
noun
noun: freedom of speech; plural noun: freedoms of speech

    the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.

Obligatory XKCD reference:



You are protected from legal repercussions when you express your views, not protected from having your posts deleted on a forum.  Your freedom ends where the freedom for people who find you annoying and don't want to listen to you begins.

And for the thread as a whole, still yet to hear a single compelling argument as to why FH should be removed as a mod.  It also wouldn't surprise me if some of the accounts calling for removal of their mod powers were sockpuppets.


He is an antifa !

Which is surely only an issue for you if you're a self-professed fascist? 
2497  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Forum User Security ? on: July 13, 2019, 08:26:53 AM
Your suggestion is good (...)

I think the more prevalent view on this board is that it's really not.  KYC causes more security issues than it solves.  If you store a great big cache of valuable personal information in one place, people are going to be motivated to try and steal it.  KYC is inherently dumb.
2498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List Of People For The Bitcoin Community Never To Trust on: July 13, 2019, 08:13:06 AM
Should we not just simplify the list and name a single entry of:

  • the sham we currently pretend is government?

We'll be here all year listing all the different government bodies, politicians and so-called intelligence agencies.

2499  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-11] Trump apparently knows what Bitcoin is, and he doesn’t like it on: July 12, 2019, 05:23:51 PM
Might as well make the most of it.  Maybe someone should tell him CSW is satoshi so they can organise a drone strike or something.   Grin
2500  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-11] Drumpf apparently knows what Bitcoin is, and he doesn’t like it on: July 12, 2019, 02:04:27 PM
Honestly, I'd be more concerned if he said he was a fan.  Bitcoin is better off without support from people of questionable intellect who are prone to saying profoundly stupid things on a regular basis. 

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